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listopencil 01-13-2014 08:52 PM

These Beautiful Solar Orbs Are So Efficient They Even Harvest Moonlight
 
http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/19cf.../ku-xlarge.jpg

Photovoltaic panels aren't the most glamorous technology: They're usually tucked away on a roof, and when you can see them, they're ugly. And inefficient. But what if they made architecture more beautiful? And what if they were more efficient, working even at night? Say hi to Rawlemon, a solar ball lens that is quickly making its way to market.

This perfectly spherical glass ball is the work of a German architect named André Broessel, who began working on it three years ago with the aim of making solar power more efficient and less expensive, a technology available to everyone, everywhere. "Our product is democratic," he told me recently over email. "Imagine, we are conceiving autonomous products able to concentrate the light even during a cloudy day, which are generating sun powered energy wherever you are in the world. Energy for free."

http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/19cf.../ku-xlarge.jpg

Well, not quite for free. But Rawlemon, by sheer force of numbers, has the power to outperform traditional solar panels by many thousands of times. In simple terms, here's how it works. Broessel's Palantir-esque globe is filled with water that magnifies the sun's rays by more than 10,000 times, making it possible to harvest energy from the moon, or the sun on a cloudy day. Where are the PVs? The tiny panels are situated directly below the ball, where the magnified ray hits them.

http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/19cf.../ku-xlarge.jpg

At the most basic level, Rawlemon is a ball lens—a perfect sphere that refracts light into a powerful concentrated ray—and a mechanism that's been around for centuries. In fact, you can even make a crude version using a piece of saran wrap and water, as demonstrated by this dude on YouTube.

http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/19cf.../ku-xlarge.jpg

But the sun and moon, of course, are constantly moving. So to more efficiently capture their direct rays—unlike PV panels, which usually lay in a static position—Broessel designed a microtracker that follows the course of the sun as it arcs across the sky, tilting the panels along with it. The tracking system, paired with the ball lens, make Rawlemon up to 70 percent more efficient than a typical solar panel.

"So why isn't there a giant pivoting crystal ball on every rooftop yet?" I hear you whispering in awe. For one thing, manufacturing—and certifying—solar collection systems is a serious undertaking, involving yards of bureaucratic red tape. But as Broessel tells me, solar tech is also hard to market to normal people.

http://gizmodo.com/these-beautiful-s...n-h-1500329295

Donger 01-13-2014 08:54 PM

Nuke them from orbit.

Mr_Tomahawk 01-13-2014 08:56 PM

http://static4.businessinsider.com/i...ing-quotas.jpg

DenverChief 01-13-2014 08:56 PM

You know reading this made me think of the Mythbusters Archimedes mirror experiments - pretty damn cool though

Donger 01-13-2014 08:57 PM

I am kind of curious about the first picture, however.

listopencil 01-13-2014 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Donger (Post 10368223)
I am kind of curious about the first picture, however.

It's odd, isn't it? It seems to be directing a beam of light up from the orb.

DenverChief 01-13-2014 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by listopencil (Post 10368246)
It's odd, isn't it? It seems to be directing a beam of light up from the orb.

It looks like the one guy is holding a flashlight and pointing it at the globe

listopencil 01-13-2014 09:03 PM

Could that be just a focused reflection? I'm not knowledgeable enough in the mathematics of reflection/refraction to say.

listopencil 01-13-2014 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by DenverChief (Post 10368259)
It looks like the one guy is holding a flashlight and pointing it at the globe

I thought that was the light collection point on the panels and he was standing behind it.

Donger 01-13-2014 09:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DenverChief (Post 10368259)
It looks like the one guy is holding a flashlight and pointing it at the globe

It's The Schwartz!

Just Passin' By 01-13-2014 09:05 PM

This is not a Kate Upton thread?

J Diddy 01-13-2014 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Donger (Post 10368269)
It's The Schwartz!

You totally ripped that off one of the captions.

listopencil 01-13-2014 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Just Passin' By (Post 10368270)
This is not a Kate Upton thread?

It can be:

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NSFW Image

DenverChief 01-13-2014 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by listopencil (Post 10368265)
I thought that was the light collection point on the panels and he was standing behind it.

Just guessing here, but it looks like it's pretty dark and someone is trying to take a picture. I'd just assume he was demonstrating the globe in darkness what would be too bright to see in light

Donger 01-13-2014 09:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by J Diddy (Post 10368276)
You totally ripped that off one of the captions.

The what?

stonedstooge 01-13-2014 09:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by listopencil (Post 10368265)
I thought that was the light collection point on the panels and he was standing behind it.

I'd like to see the picture or video the dude with that camera took standing on the roof with him

Simply Red 01-13-2014 09:12 PM

http://i.imgur.com/Dpux8y4.gif

J Diddy 01-13-2014 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Donger (Post 10368287)
The what?

Captions from a pic at the bottom of page of bottom link.

I know you are playing innocent here but I am not buying it. Anything less than lethal injection for you is a travesty of justice.

Sannyasi 01-13-2014 09:16 PM

This dude is going to be the next Stan Meyer.

Donger 01-13-2014 09:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by J Diddy (Post 10368307)
Captions from a pic at the bottom of page of bottom link.

I know you are playing innocent here but I am not buying it. Anything less than lethal injection for you is a travesty of justice.

Silly.

And they spelled it wrong.

LMAO

J Diddy 01-13-2014 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Sannyasi (Post 10368310)
This dude is going to be the next Stan Meyer.

Probably be larger than that, more like Stan's older and more famous brother Oscar.

J Diddy 01-13-2014 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Donger (Post 10368315)
Silly.

And they spelled it wrong.

LMAO

Just because you cleaned it up doesn't make your illegal acquisition of someone else's thoughts right.

I saw something just like this on the Dukes of Hazzard the other day. Some serious stuff we got going on here.

Donger 01-13-2014 09:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by J Diddy (Post 10368326)
Just because you cleaned it up doesn't make your illegal acquisition of someone else's thoughts right.

I saw something just like this on the Dukes of Hazzard the other day. Some serious stuff we got going on here.

Your suspicion is noted and summarily dismissed. May The Schwartz have mercy on your soul.

BossChief 01-13-2014 09:25 PM

Cool idea, but we all know that by the time the Government makes these guys jump through all the hoops those things will be too expensive to be cost efficient. The government has too much interest in other forms of energy that have big money behind them.

It's a shame, really.

J Diddy 01-13-2014 09:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Donger (Post 10368339)
Your suspicion is noted and summarily dismissed. May The Schwartz have mercy on your soul.

Hey! Totally uncalled for.

If I wanted to be summarily dismissed I would get married again.

Donger 01-13-2014 09:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 10368351)
Cool idea, but we all know that by the time the Government makes these guys jump through all the hoops those things will be too expensive to be cost efficient. The government has too much interest in other forms of energy that have big money behind them.

It's a shame, really.

:spock:

Simply Red 01-13-2014 09:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Donger (Post 10368315)
Silly.

And they spelled it wrong.

LMAO

Ok. Great going Donger troll. I'm glad you're back - pick a victim and drink their blood.

Donger 01-13-2014 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Simply Red (Post 10368368)
Ok. Great going Donger troll. I'm glad you're back - pick a victim and drink their blood.

Shut up, bitch.

Simply Red 01-13-2014 09:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Donger (Post 10368380)
Shut up, bitch.

:LOL:

listopencil 01-13-2014 09:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by J Diddy (Post 10368326)
Just because you cleaned it up doesn't make your illegal acquisition of someone else's thoughts right.

I saw something just like this on the Dukes of Hazzard the other day. Some serious stuff we got going on here.

Was it Uncle Jesse's moonshine recipe? Because that's messed up. He worked hard on that.

listopencil 01-13-2014 09:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DenverChief (Post 10368281)
Just guessing here, but it looks like it's pretty dark and someone is trying to take a picture. I'd just assume he was demonstrating the globe in darkness what would be too bright to see in light

Sure. Could be. I don't know enough about the characteristics of light as it passes through a transparent spherical medium to say, really.

J Diddy 01-13-2014 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by listopencil (Post 10368482)
Was it Uncle Jesse's moonshine recipe? Because that's messed up. He worked hard on that.

Daisy's song got mixed up with Boss Hog's illegal music pirating outfit.

Suffice to say shit really hit the fan.

listopencil 01-13-2014 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by J Diddy (Post 10368507)
Daisy's song got mixed up with Boss Hog's illegal music pirating outfit.

Suffice to say shit really hit the fan.

We owe a debt of gratitude to Catherine Bach. She gave us Daisy Dukes.

http://31.media.tumblr.com/ec9c65924...28rmo1_500.jpg

Rasputin 01-13-2014 10:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Donger (Post 10368269)
It's The Schwartz!

http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/h...y/05430551.gif

J Diddy 01-13-2014 10:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by listopencil (Post 10368622)
We owe a debt of gratitude to Catherine Bach. She gave us Daisy Dukes.

http://31.media.tumblr.com/ec9c65924...28rmo1_500.jpg

I did enjoy them.

saphojunkie 01-13-2014 11:07 PM

Whoa, somebody get that girl some makeup. Lotta shine going on, there.

listopencil 01-13-2014 11:19 PM

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Originally Posted by saphojunkie (Post 10368945)
Whoa, somebody get that girl some makeup. Lotta shine going on, there.

It's a reflection from the beautiful solar orbs.

BlackHelicopters 01-14-2014 09:08 AM

How much?

loochy 01-14-2014 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by listopencil (Post 10368261)
Could that be just a focused reflection? I'm not knowledgeable enough in the mathematics of reflection/refraction to say.

It's just a focused refraction, yes.

Radar Chief 01-14-2014 09:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by listopencil (Post 10368970)
It's a reflection from the beautiful solar orbs.

She had some glorious orbs back in the day too.

Beef Supreme 01-14-2014 09:28 AM

Solar tech is hard to market to normal people because normal people can't afford that shit.

listopencil 01-14-2014 03:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by loochy (Post 10369273)
It's just a focused refraction, yes.

Cool. I was hoping someone would weigh in.

Tombstone RJ 01-14-2014 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by BigChiefTablet (Post 10369303)
Solar tech is hard to market to normal people because normal people can't afford that shit.

well yah, at least they can't afford a solar orb right now because the cost to bring the product to market is too high. But once manufacturing has caught up, that is, once the entire manufacturing process is up and running, the cost per unit should drop significantly, just like anything else. You wanna know why laptop computers cost $5k 15 years ago and now cost $300 today (and you are getting a much better laptop today), because the cost to produce them is a lot cheaper. Same with super duper smart phones, etc.

What I'm curious about is the water these orbs. It can't be tap water, I'm thinking it's gotta be some super clear, super clean type of water. So between the glass orb and the water, along with the solar panel the concentrates the light energy and transforms it into electricity that goes to the house, I'm wondering just how much something like that could cost and maintain, if the orb manufacturer is cranking out a hundred thousand units a month....

Just Passin' By 01-14-2014 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Tombstone RJ (Post 10370121)
well yah, at least they can't afford a solar orb right now because the cost to bring the product to market is too high. But once manufacturing has caught up, that is, once the entire manufacturing process is up and running, the cost per unit should drop significantly, just like anything else. You wanna know why laptop computers cost $5k 15 years ago and now cost $300 today (and you are getting a much better laptop today), because the cost to produce them is a lot cheaper. Same with super duper smart phones, etc.

What I'm curious about is the water these orbs. It can't be tap water, I'm thinking it's gotta be some super clear, super clean type of water. So between the glass orb and the water, along with the solar panel the concentrates the light energy and transforms it into electricity that goes to the house, I'm wondering just how much something like that could cost and maintain, if the orb manufacturer is cranking out a hundred thousand units a month....

Repurpose them as property defense laser systems and watch the profits roll in.

Psyko Tek 01-14-2014 10:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tombstone RJ (Post 10370121)
well yah, at least they can't afford a solar orb right now because the cost to bring the product to market is too high. But once manufacturing has caught up, that is, once the entire manufacturing process is up and running, the cost per unit should drop significantly, just like anything else. You wanna know why laptop computers cost $5k 15 years ago and now cost $300 today (and you are getting a much better laptop today), because the cost to produce them is a lot cheaper. Same with super duper smart phones, etc.

What I'm curious about is the water these orbs. It can't be tap water, I'm thinking it's gotta be some super clear, super clean type of water. So between the glass orb and the water, along with the solar panel the concentrates the light energy and transforms it into electricity that goes to the house, I'm wondering just how much something like that could cost and maintain, if the orb manufacturer is cranking out a hundred thousand units a month....

I am wondering about how much energy one provides
the Perfect orb part makes me think very expensive

ClevelandBronco 01-15-2014 12:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tombstone RJ (Post 10370121)
What I'm curious about is the water these orbs. It can't be tap water, I'm thinking it's gotta be some super clear, super clean type of water...

I did some digging. Sure enough, it's Coors.

J Diddy 01-15-2014 12:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tombstone RJ (Post 10370121)
well yah, at least they can't afford a solar orb right now because the cost to bring the product to market is too high. But once manufacturing has caught up, that is, once the entire manufacturing process is up and running, the cost per unit should drop significantly, just like anything else. You wanna know why laptop computers cost $5k 15 years ago and now cost $300 today (and you are getting a much better laptop today), because the cost to produce them is a lot cheaper. Same with super duper smart phones, etc.

What I'm curious about is the water these orbs. It can't be tap water, I'm thinking it's gotta be some super clear, super clean type of water. So between the glass orb and the water, along with the solar panel the concentrates the light energy and transforms it into electricity that goes to the house, I'm wondering just how much something like that could cost and maintain, if the orb manufacturer is cranking out a hundred thousand units a month....

They pour in bottled water, so basically west virginia tap water.

Valiant 01-15-2014 06:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Donger (Post 10368365)
:spock:

He kinda has a point, same with lobbyist, certain groups make sure they get what they want.

Radar Chief 01-15-2014 08:00 AM

Anyone else notice the resemblance? It’s a trap!

http://i43.tinypic.com/24dg303.jpg

savchief 01-15-2014 09:23 AM

Seems a bit fraudish. There is already a lot a research putting lenses on solar cells. Using a ridiculous (perfect? not likely) sphere (filled with water..ooooo) over a tiny array of cells is just silly. Also,even if the concentration factor was 10 000, that doesn't equate to an equivalent increase in energy conversion. There is better research, better methods, and more promise in other lines of experimentation. The line about taking a while to come to market because of that darn "Red tape" set off alarm bells. There are no goverment agencies "certifying" solar equipment. This ain't the FDA and medicine. There is no bureaucracy to slog through. Sounds like a delaying tactic to hold off the kickstarters who ponied up cash and got a glorified snow globe with one solar cell that lights up an LED or runs a tiny fan (I have no idea what little "desktop" toy they got other than what was described).


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