KC Star expects Commings to play FS
 

The Kansas City Star expects CB Sanders Commings to compete for the Chiefs' starting free safety job in 2014.

With Kendrick Lewis a free agent this offseason, Commings is expected to be moved to safety opposite Eric Berry. A fifth-round pick, he spent the majority of his rookie year on short-term I.R., finishing with just three defensive snaps. The Chiefs run a lot of single-high safety looks under DC Bob Sutton, so Commings could be a strong fit as a former cornerback. Kansas City also figures to bring in competition through the draft or free agency.

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This is exciting.

We didn't have a FS last year

This doesn't mean they can't draft another guy or bring in a FA.
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they better bring in some serious insurance because this guys shoulder is made of paper

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Interesting. I expect Nico Johnson to play LB next year.

Also, I think Andy will keep Smith in as the starting QB. I don't think he'll make a change.

Commings/Kelce/Nico kind of come in next year as another draft class...guys who barely played due to injury but have been around for a year and had a chance to get a taste for what is needed.

In Commings' case, I would expect that while the Chiefs hope he emerges as a starting safety, that they'll probably draft another guy and possibly dip into the market to find another.

I remember when Marty moved Mark Collins from corner to safety. Hopefully this works out as well...:hmmm:

I realize Dunte is past his point of relevance but asking if he'd be a better option than Lewis isn't really a fair comparison. Gimme a fast scooter & I might even be able to take Lewis' job.

Could pick up someone like cj spillman as a short term fix as well.

Sanders problem in college was his foot skills at the LOS. Getting him in space will help a lot.

Still would like to bring in a vet for competition.

I agree.

I can't imagine counting on a 7th round pick who was injured most all of his rookie year. Seriously?

It can happen.

You're right. We should re-sign Lewis. Way too risky to let Commings give it a shot.

No more Lewis but counting on anything from Commings as starting FS would be a huge reach. I'm all for him being able to do it but seriously? No.

Commings is nothing more than depth at this point and that's being generous.

Of course he is. He wont be anything more till he gets to camp, and shows that he knows the defense, and can stay healthy.

But, really, if he can get on the field at all, hes an upgrade regardless of the turds that were back there last year.

7th round pick.

If it still existed he'd be in Europe this spring.

So? Marques Colston was a 7th round pick, Marcus Cooper was a 7th round pick.

Victor Cruz, undrafted.

Wes Welker, undrafted.

Am I saying he is on this level?

Of course not. But to completely dismiss him, because of his drafted position, is ridiculous. We will find out if he can stay healthy and play.

That's all I was saying.

I thought he was picked in the 5th

which is not what he said at all.

We need to pickup up a viable starter for the FS position. If Commings can win the job then fine but we can't count on him. Same goes for Kelce, we can't count on rookies that were injured all year to start next year. We have no idea if they can stay healthy or even if they are good enough to start in the NFL.

Get serious. Nobody's shoulder is actually made of paper.

I believe this to be true.

Of course we're going to bring someone in to compete for the FS job. We'll most likely draft a guy, as well. Commings will likely be depth, and the primary backup if he plays well enough. Not everybody is like Kevin Ross or Mark Collins and can step into a new position without missing a beat.

I WAS being sarcastic when I said bring Lewis back. I'm not ****ing insane, you know.

From the sound or the article, it sounds like the Chiefs are planning to make this a competition.

Nothing wrong with him competing for it. Didn't see anything about the Chiefs handing him the starters job.

You can groom him for Free Safety and, if that doesn't work out, he can easily play a Demps type role in the dime and maybe one day in the nickel. It's a great thing.

Commings was a 5th rounder

Chiefs
free safety play

like antifreeze
so cold that it burns human flesh
maybe abdullah will help in a more dominant role

maybe not

kendrick lewis has aids

s. commings

Sigh.

I mean I want to like this clever parody but I mean the subject matter though..

I wouldn't even count on the kid making the roster. I'm not sure what everybody sees in him. He might have the tools, but he is a long way away from starting in this league.

If there was one position I would throw some money around in, it's at safety.

As far as I'm concerned, we have Eric Berry and that's it at safety.

Abdullah (if brought back, which I presume they will)
Powe
Bailey
Catapano
Nico

That's a nice little group of players that could play big roles on the defense next year that I'm looking forward to.

Commings isn't on that list, but I'm hoping to be proven wrong.

Hey, I tried my best.

The Chiefs need to be making a push NOW to bring in Abdullah.

Half the teams in the NFL need safeties more desperately than we do, and there is a shitty draft class of safeties coming in.

The Chiefs need to re-sign Abdullah as soon as humanly possible -- he's going to get priced out of our range if he hits the free market.

All halfway decent safeties will.

The Chiefs should bring Abdullah back, and draft a couple safeties for developmental talent.

I bet Berry/Abdullah/Commings/a mid-round pick is good enough to succeed as long as we make an important upgrade at the other DE position and don't just rely on Allen Bailey.

kelce and cummings are just ghosts to me

I have heard of them, but never saw them play

fasano has not impressed me
the beard was better

I do not watch college ball, don't wanna spend all my time on the good AZ weather on football
so take that ionto my account
if you ain't there when you turn pro what good are you

potential means shit

This.

I believe in Commings' talent.

But you use your shoulder near-constantly at safety.

We should head into this offseason treating him as quality depth, and provide even more depth behind him.

We need five safeties heading into this offseason.

Right now, we have two: Berry and Commings. With Ron Parker, who's really more of a corner.

Bring back Abdullah if at all possible. Draft two more safeties. See if you can land MacDougald back from the Bucs.

Powe and Catapano are going to play big roles but Commings, a 5th rounder out of Georgia, might not make the roster?

Don't. Nico looked really slow this year.

He's going to need another year of development. I bet we keep Jordan for another year.

That's an interesting thought.

Our rookie class generally should be thought to include Commings and Kelce.

Nico played some this year, however, and just didn't look the part.

He needs another year of development before he lands time. This team needs to bring Jordan back.

So long as Commings gives us a healthy 16 games in 2014, there's no reason he can't be starter material in 2015, or even at select points throughout 2014.

Ron Parker impressed me with the snaps he got at CB.

I'm not suggesting we put him into the starting lineup or anything based on his ability to come in on corner blitzes and play special teams, but I think it's time to start looking to people like him instead of Dunta when we need fill-ins for nickel and dime packages.

At any rate, we could definitely use him at CB if we're not going to overhaul that position.

I think that shoulder is gonna really hinder the guy and that it may never get back to full strength. Those other guys have actually showed something...Commings may never get a chance to do so unless that shoulder gets/stays healthy which has been an ongoing issue for the kid.

Isn't he like 31 or32 years old?

I'm still shocked that we played the entire year without a free safety in 2013. It seems like someone would have noticed at some point.

He's 26 years old. Has been around the NFL a few years, though. Bouncing from practice squad to practice squad.

I'd like to see us use him the way the Packers use Jarrett Bush.

This is, of course, contingent on who we bring in and let go in free agency. There's always room for someone like Ron Parker to get the axe if the talent is there.

Not sure why I thought he was older...maybe it's how he looks.

I agree though, I'd like to see him get an increased role. He consistently made plays when he was out there.

I agree we need to get Abdulah locked up.

Dunta was a huge uh uh. I was actually excited about his signing as a fill in.

Personally, I thought Marcus Cooper did well. he was a rookie and will grow and did so with no NO NO help over the top at all ever.

Ask Kendrick Lewis about how a shoulder injury can effect what started as promising safety play.

Lewis is no better than Page was, in fact Page was probably better and he was trash. There is no excuse for Lewis to have started that many games. I don't think he ever showed much beyond being in the right place at the right time. Same as Page. Those guys are game slow, take terrible angles, can't tackle, are fooled easily, go for the ankle like they are terrified of contact and are a general liability to the unit as a whole.

It's like some teams just don't realize how much a good safety is worth in today's NFL.

I think Marcus Cooper is gonna be a special player once we get some good safety play.

I couldn't agree any more on Cooper. Kid has stud written all over him.

Promising, my ass.
He has been a useless **** since day one.

Sign Free agent Antoine Bethea (Colts) to play Strong Safety. Move Eric Berry to Free Safety.

It's Sutton's fault.

I'm not sure why there's so much love for Abdullah and Parker. They're only getting love because they are better than the absolute shit show options we had in Lewis and Dunta Robinson. It's the Brady Quinn effect. We were so anxious to get rid of Cassel that we tried our hardest to get excited about any QB that wasn't Matt Cassel.

If we have to keep these guys around as backups because we can't fix the secondary problem overnight, fine. But we can do a whole lot better.

No. Abdullah was very good in Minnesota until he took the Mecca trip. Took some time to get back to game speed but the guy is a playmaker. Sign him yesterday.

The more I watch of Jason Verrett out of TCU, the more I want him to be our first round pick. He flies to the ball better than any other DB I've watched in this draft. If I were to go defense in this draft, I would go Jason Verrett with the first pick and Will Clarke with the second.

No. Abdullah can be an above average coverage safety that is a somewhat sure tackler, as well. Also, his picks weren't just being in the right place at the right time, each of them was when he had tight coverage and made a play on the ball.

IMO Abdullah was one of our better defenders.

The guy was good in Minnesota, too. They offered him a 4 year deal before he went on his religious pilgrimage.

He is also solid in the locker room...his teammates even voted him in as a team captain...that speaks volumes to what kind of man and player he is.

I'd have no issues with it if they re-signed him for 4 years.

I always want quality depth, especially if it comes cheap. But I don't want to walk into next year with Abdullah as our best option at Free Safety. He's much better than our current dumpster fire options, but instead of comparing him to Lewis, I'd rather compare him to an average starting free safety. If you do that, he's just a guy.

I assure you, Europe still exists.

Umm... no thank you. Berry has had more than his fair share of ****ups in coverage.

Bethea is on the wrong side of 30 if I'm not mistaken. He's still good but he's old and will command more coin than we'll be willing to give. Pass on that..

He is a lot better than "quality depth" from what I saw.

Especially when he got more opportunities on the field late in the year..

.........

I'd have no problem bringing Bethea in, either. He is a good player with some gas left in the tank.

If all we did at safety all offseason was re-sign Abdullah and bring in Bethea, I'd be content going into next year with

Berry
Bethea
Abdullah
Commings

Shit, I'd probably be excited.

Not sure Verrett is the difference maker worthy of our first round pick. I'm all about BPA since we have to wait until the third round to make our second pick but I'm just not sure he would be BPA at 23. His size would be an issue for me since he is only 5' 9.5" tall at 176 lbs.

I'll leave that up to Dorsey. If he is a shutdown corner then absoutely!

He reminds me a lot of Lardarius Webb when he was healthy. Elite change of direction, aggressive in coverage, elite reaction speed, great recovery speed, has the athleticism to go up and battle for the ball against bigger receivers, and to top it all off he is great in run support especially given his size. It honestly wouldn't be a stretch to say that he could come in and immediately be the best CB on the team as a rookie.

As long as Lewis is gone (hopefully to chOakland).
I would love to see Sutton replaced as well, but I doubt that will happen.

too late to move Berry to FS imo

I wanted Crennel to work him with the cornerbacks and put him at FS right out of college but it's over, he's a Strong Safety.

We had a good chance to replace Sutton with Horton and didn't. Sutton is here until someone tells Reid to fire him.

The guy is big and fast, high hopes are in order... but as others have said, we need to go get an insurance policy in free agency if they dont grab someone in the draft.

Dorsey signed McMillian cheap, that's like a free 4th round pick, that still has time to develop, he sucked last year but the dude was picked off the scrap heap and will compete at safety just like Demps/Abdullah were scrap heap picks last year. He's faster than what he had back there at least, still can't tackle, but whatever.

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Wait, we signed McMillian? It says he's still a free agent

That's what I deserve for not logging on CP that day.

http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/...McMillian.html

Holy shit. That's awesome. Dorsey ****ing rules.

I'm not overly impressed with Dorsey's big moves... they've been so so, but he's been incredible on the scrap picks... which is what I care about.

Too bad we don't have a second round pick this year. Who's your choice in the third?

Not sure if serious

I meant second pick as in the 3rd round pick. Another players I would think long and hard about is Dominique Easley. Arguably the quickest burst off the line in this draft, including Clowney. He is going to drop due to injury concerns and being undersized, just not sure how far down he drops. I would say the 3rd round may be where he goes judging by last year's draft and where players with 1 st round talent tended to fall due to major injuries. If all he ever did for us in his rookie year was come in to rush the passer next to Poe on 3rd downs, he would be well worth the pick.