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oaklandhater 01-20-2014 09:31 AM

Kansas City Chiefs to show interest in Jeremy Maclin
 
http://sportsglory.com/nfl/kansas-ci...y-maclin/12665


Kansas City Chiefs to show interest in Jeremy Maclin?
Posted by: Evan Massey January 18, 2014 in AFC West, Chiefs, Eagles, NFC East, NFL, NFL Blog, NFL Rumors

JeremyMaclinChiefsRumorSG
According to Terez A. Paylor of the Kansas City Star, the Kansas City Chiefs are expected to show interest in free agent wide receiver Jeremy Maclin this coming offseason. The Chiefs are looking for upgrades to their aerial attack for quarterback Alex Smith, and Maclin very well could be a cheaper option because of the ACL injury that he is coming off. This would be a very intriguing move that very well could be a huge boost to an already solid offense.
Maclin has struggled with injury issues throughout his career, and missed the entire 2013 season due to a torn ACL. He has admitted that he may have to take a discounted contract or a one-year deal to prove himself following that big of an injury.
In 2012 with the Philadelphia Eagles, Maclin played in 15 games. He was able to catch 69 passes for a total of 857 yards and seven touchdowns, which shows just how good he can be when healthy. There’s no doubt that he would add yet another playmaker to an offense that already has the potential to break off a big play at any time. Alex Smith has proven to be the quarterback of the future for the Chiefs, and they want to bring in as good of a supporting cast as they can.
At his current rate of progress, Maclin is expected to be cleared for the beginning of training camp, which is certainly good news for any interested team. Maclin was originally drafted by Andy Reid in Philadelphia, and could be an exact fit with what Reid is trying to do in Kansas City. This is certainly a potential destination to keep an eye on for Maclin.

oaklandhater 01-20-2014 09:32 AM

Do not Want.....

Eleazar 01-20-2014 09:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by oaklandhater (Post 10382083)
Maclin has struggled with injury issues throughout his career, and missed the entire 2013 season due to a torn ACL.

He's played 13 or more games every season except for the ACL injury. :rolleyes:

Jimmya 01-20-2014 09:40 AM

How big or fast is he?

Dartgod 01-20-2014 09:41 AM

Bah. As soon as Bowe loses 4 pounds, we'll have our own Maclin.

loochy 01-20-2014 09:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jimmya (Post 10382105)
How big or fast is he?

7'3" 325 lbs.

runs a 3.5 40

Mecca 01-20-2014 09:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by oaklandhater (Post 10382086)
Do not Want.....

Considering how awful we are at WR..it's still an improvement.

ChiefRocka 01-20-2014 09:43 AM

In a heartbeat.

WhawhaWhat 01-20-2014 09:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cochise (Post 10382102)
He's played 13 or more games every season except for the ACL injury. :rolleyes:

May be able to get him on a cheap 1-year deal so he can prove he's healthy if no one offers a long term deal. The big issue is that this is the second time that ACL has been torn which leaves a lot of uncertainty.

BossChief 01-20-2014 10:05 AM

Honestly, I wouldn't want him on a 1 year deal...but I'd love to have him on the roster. A 2 year deal would be minimum and a 3 year deal would be what I'd shoot for.

The guy is coming off acl and the first half of the year would be a transition, so if we sign him to a 1 year deal, he would probably look for a big payday after just one year if he comes back full strength.

If we can give him a 3 year deal with a decent second year roster bonus, that's probably for the best. That way, if he stays on the field and s a good enough fit, both sides get what they want.

DaKCMan AP 01-20-2014 10:05 AM

Meh.

Big Poppa Payne 01-20-2014 10:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by loochy (Post 10382110)
7'3" 325 lbs.

runs a 3.5 40

That sounds like a created player in Madden. Sign him.

kepp 01-20-2014 10:10 AM

I'd like to see what he can do with the Chiefs. But even at Mizzou he was a bit fragile, so I don't know how much we'd be able to count on him.

Simplicity 01-20-2014 10:10 AM

I almost guarantee he's in a Chiefs uniform next year. He's an Andy Reid guy and he's gonna want to surround Alex with a guy he knows can produce.

Plus we'll get him cheap because he respects where he stands ATM.

TEX 01-20-2014 10:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 10382169)
Honestly, I wouldn't want him on a 1 year deal...but I'd love to have him on the roster. A 2 year deal would be minimum and a 3 year deal would be what I'd shoot for.

The guy is coming off acl and the first half of the year would be a transition, so if we sign him to a 1 year deal, he would probably look for a big payday after just one year if he comes back full strength.

If we can give him a 3 year deal with a decent second year roster bonus, that's probably for the best. That way, if he stays on the field and s a good enough fit, both sides get what they want.

Very good thinking!

BigRedChief 01-20-2014 10:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by oaklandhater (Post 10382083)
http://sportsglory.com/nfl/kansas-ci...y-maclin/12665


Kansas City Chiefs to show interest in Jeremy Maclin?
Posted by: Evan Massey January 18, 2014 in AFC West, Chiefs, Eagles, NFC East, NFL, NFL Blog, NFL Rumors

JeremyMaclinChiefsRumorSG
According to Terez A. Paylor of the Kansas City Star, the Kansas City Chiefs are expected to show interest in free agent wide receiver Jeremy Maclin this coming offseason. The Chiefs are looking for upgrades to their aerial attack for quarterback Alex Smith, and Maclin very well could be a cheaper option because of the ACL injury that he is coming off. This would be a very intriguing move that very well could be a huge boost to an already solid offense.
Maclin has struggled with injury issues throughout his career, and missed the entire 2013 season due to a torn ACL. He has admitted that he may have to take a discounted contract or a one-year deal to prove himself following that big of an injury.
In 2012 with the Philadelphia Eagles, Maclin played in 15 games. He was able to catch 69 passes for a total of 857 yards and seven touchdowns, which shows just how good he can be when healthy. There’s no doubt that he would add yet another playmaker to an offense that already has the potential to break off a big play at any time. Alex Smith has proven to be the quarterback of the future for the Chiefs, and they want to bring in as good of a supporting cast as they can.
At his current rate of progress, Maclin is expected to be cleared for the beginning of training camp, which is certainly good news for any interested team. Maclin was originally drafted by Andy Reid in Philadelphia, and could be an exact fit with what Reid is trying to do in Kansas City. This is certainly a potential destination to keep an eye on for Maclin.

Why not? As long as its incentive laden. Insurance against the knee not being normal. There would be no downside.

With his coming off an injury it might take an incentive laden contract.

HC_Chief 01-20-2014 10:17 AM

We NEED a speedy WR. If he is healthy, definitely sign him. Just make sure it is an incentive-laden contract, rather than guaranteed... want him earning those dollars ;)

Simplicity 01-20-2014 10:18 AM

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Mine as well get ready for him.

OldSchool 01-20-2014 10:19 AM

Similar skillset to AJ Jenkins, just more proven as a player in this league,

philfree 01-20-2014 10:24 AM

We can take a flyer on the guy but he's a guy who's never had a 1,000 yard season and he's injury prone. I'll keep my expectations low if Reid even goes that route.

OldSchool 01-20-2014 10:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by philfree (Post 10382223)
We can take a flyer on the guy but he's a guy who's never had a 1,000 yard season and he's injury prone. I'll keep my expectations low if Reid even goes that route.

Not many receivers go over 1k yards in Reids offense, if at all. It is designed to spread the ball around to a lot of different targets and therefore reduces the importance of having a #1 WR.

Ragged Robin 01-20-2014 10:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by philfree (Post 10382223)
We can take a flyer on the guy but he's a guy who's never had a 1,000 yard season and he's injury prone. I'll keep my expectations low if Reid even goes that route.

Slightly better Avery 2.0 then? ROFL

Sure-Oz 01-20-2014 10:29 AM

He would be a decent pickup IMO if the speed is still there.

OldSchool 01-20-2014 10:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ragged Robin (Post 10382228)
Slightly better Avery 2.0 then? ROFL

More consistent Avery. Definitely has better hands and is more willing across the middle.

BossChief 01-20-2014 10:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by philfree (Post 10382223)
We can take a flyer on the guy but he's a guy who's never had a 1,000 yard season and he's injury prone. I'll keep my expectations low if Reid even goes that route.

I don't really care about the 1,000 yards threshold. If he can get back to full strength, the guy has blazing speed, good hand, runs good routes, knows the system, gets the ball in the endzone and would be a perfect fit for the offense.

The only real question mark for me is the injury factor.

Is this the first injury to the knee he blew out his acl in?

saphojunkie 01-20-2014 10:36 AM

It will be a cheap contract. We have a huge need. This is the right kind of gamble.

Simplicity 01-20-2014 10:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by saphojunkie (Post 10382252)
It will be a cheap contract. We have a huge need. This is the right kind of gamble.

That also frees us up in the draft to get some DB.

As much as I want Marqise Lee... I'd settle for Maclin and a 1st round DB.

-King- 01-20-2014 10:37 AM

People saying they wouldn't want him are stupid.
Posted via Mobile Device

Dante84 01-20-2014 10:40 AM

I still want us to go after Jordy Nelson next offseason, when he's a FA.

I'd seriously trade our likely mid-first round pick for him.

Eleazar 01-20-2014 10:41 AM

Maclin is someone who knows the offense, will be available at a discount, and is at our biggest position of need on offense. He's probably the biggest upgrade at that position that would be available on the free agent market. I think adding Maclin to Bowe and Avery would be a nice upgrade, especially for the cap dollars invested.

WR would be hard to solve through the draft anyway, because it takes a WR a few years before they really contribute, most of the time.

mcaj22 01-20-2014 10:44 AM

i think the question will be how do you get your incentive laden deal to trump whatever the Eagles offer him.

the Eagles could offer him an incentive laden deal and why would he leave when they got Foles, that offense, and his teammates/familiarity. We have Andy Reid and closer to home for him. Might come down to teams getting in a bid war

BossChief 01-20-2014 10:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by -King- (Post 10382255)
People saying they wouldn't want him are stupid.
Posted via Mobile Device

That depends.

Can we get him for something like 3 years 8-10 million with a minimal first year cap hit and a roster bonus in the second year?...or will he want a deal that averages over 5million per year?

Big difference, given the risk.

This is a really good draft class of receivers and drafting someone would be much cheaper.

Eleazar 01-20-2014 10:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dante84 (Post 10382261)
I still want us to go after Jordy Nelson next offseason, when he's a FA.

I'd seriously trade our likely mid-first round pick for him.

It seems pretty doubtful that Nelson actually does hit FA

BossChief 01-20-2014 10:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mcaj22 (Post 10382270)
i think the question will be how do you get your incentive laden deal to trump whatever the Eagles offer him.

the Eagles could offer him an incentive laden deal and why would he leave when they got Foles, that offense, and his teammates/familiarity. We have Andy Reid and closer to home for him. Might come down to teams getting in a bid war

If they want to have a bidding war, they can have him and we can talk to Riley Cooper.

Simplicity 01-20-2014 10:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 10382279)
If they want to have a bidding war, they can have him and we can talk to Riley Cooper.

He's racist.

philfree 01-20-2014 10:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 10382243)
I don't really care about the 1,000 yards threshold. If he can get back to full strength, the guy has blazing speed, good hand, runs good routes, knows the system, gets the ball in the endzone and would be a perfect fit for the offense.

The only real question mark for me is the injury factor.

Is this the first injury to the knee he blew out his acl in?


I'm just going by memory so besides the acl he's just always been dinged. That's alright though as long as he comes in on a prove it basis. There is chance we could get a good player for cheap which would really help us though so it could be the best way to upgrade the WR position while leaving most of our assets to use on defense. I'd be down with it if it happened but I'd temper my enthusiasm.

Dante84 01-20-2014 10:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cochise (Post 10382275)
It seems pretty doubtful that Nelson actually does hit FA

hence my mention of the trade

O.city 01-20-2014 10:57 AM

Could either go with a 1 year prove it deal, which like Bennett and the Seahawks can actually bite the team if he comes out and plays great, then you've priced yourself out.

If you could get him to sign a 2 or 3 year smaller deal, do it. He's not an elite #1 WR, but he has the tools to be a very good 2 fringe 1 type WR. Good speed, good hands, good route runner. IIRC, at MU he even returned punts.

Mav 01-20-2014 11:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Simplicity (Post 10382187)
I almost guarantee he's in a Chiefs uniform next year. He's an Andy Reid guy and he's gonna want to surround Alex with a guy he knows can produce.

Plus we'll get him cheap because he respects where he stands ATM.

Rather draft the guy in your sig if Ebron, and Jace are gone.

Mav 01-20-2014 11:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 10382279)
If they want to have a bidding war, they can have him and we can talk to Riley Cooper.

Riley Cooper, James Jones, or Eric Decker would be the preferable options for me.

Combine that with hopefully grabbing your sig. An offense that struggled last year, is now SO IMPROVED.

Would WANT.

Mr. Laz 01-20-2014 11:15 AM

let the MUron masturbation-fest begin!!!

O.city 01-20-2014 11:22 AM

I'm not signing a WR who's looking for a deal to take himself away from a HOF QB or an elite QB as Jones and Decker are looking to do.

Cooper or Maclin would be my choice, as well as drafting Lee if he were there.

Direckshun 01-20-2014 11:25 AM

I'll let Dex walk, sign Maclin and re-sign Kyle Williams on the cheap.

That'll give me two great outside threats, an improvement at slot with Avery over Dex, and a proven punt returning expert in Williams.

Boom. Upgraded everywhere except (arguably) punt returns.

FringeNC 01-20-2014 11:25 AM

Obviously, we'd want him if the price was right. The question is how high should we be willing to go?

mcaj22 01-20-2014 11:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 10382279)
If they want to have a bidding war, they can have him and we can talk to Riley Cooper.

or we can just pay Golden Tate

O.city 01-20-2014 11:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 10382391)
I'll let Dex walk, sign Maclin and re-sign Kyle Williams on the cheap.

That'll give me two great outside threats, an improvement at slot with Avery over Dex, and a proven punt returning expert in Williams.

Boom. Upgraded everywhere except (arguably) punt returns.

This.

I'm a fan of Jenkins as well.

BossChief 01-20-2014 11:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Simplicity (Post 10382283)
He's racist.

Cool. That might drop his asking price.

O.city 01-20-2014 11:28 AM

Apparently, he'd fit right in here in KC.

mcaj22 01-20-2014 11:29 AM

http://arrowheadaddict.com/2014/01/2...s-golden-tate/

BossChief 01-20-2014 11:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 10382391)
I'll let Dex walk, sign Maclin and re-sign Kyle Williams on the cheap.

That'll give me two great outside threats, an improvement at slot with Avery over Dex, and a proven punt returning expert in Williams.

Boom. Upgraded everywhere except (arguably) punt returns.

I almost spit a mouthful of water onto the iPad after reading "a proven punt return expert"

:evil:

Direckshun 01-20-2014 11:31 AM

The problem there is that Golden Tate, while being a great fit in KC, would cost too much.

He's younger, completely healthy, and the Seahawks love him. He'd cost too much.

O.city 01-20-2014 11:32 AM

**** it, just sign both.

Simplicity 01-20-2014 11:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 10382410)
Cool. That might drop his asking price.

I guess being slow and white will too.

O.city 01-20-2014 11:35 AM

Having other holes needing be filled in FA, Maclin probably makes more sense financially. But I'd rather have Tate all things being equal.

I've become overly enamored with Donald Butler if the Chargers don't resign him

BossChief 01-20-2014 11:43 AM

22 receivers in this draft class have a third round or higher grade.

If we are gonna drop coin in FA, I'd rather we do it by filling positions that are weak in the draft.

Why should we spend in upwards of 5-7 million per year on a receiver if we can draft one and possibly get the same quality of player for under a million per year for 4 years?

That's a legit question...especially when Alex Smiths comfort zone hasn't really been throwing outside the numbers to the wideouts.

I guess after locking Bowe up to that huge deal and seeing him underproduce makes me much ather spend that kind of coin on a huge upgrade at safety.

After all, the offense scored 44 in the playoffs with the weapons we have on offense, but we have nothing after Berry at safety and even he isn't exactly a top itch coverage safety at this point.

I think that's a lot more cost effecient.

O.city 01-20-2014 11:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 10382483)
22 receivers in this draft class have a third round or higher grade.

If we are gonna drop coin in FA, I'd rather we do it by filling positions that are weak in the draft.

Why should we spend in upwards of 5-7 million per year on a receiver if we can draft one and possibly get the same quality of player for under a million per year for 4 years?

That's a legit question...especially when Alex Smiths comfort zone hasn't really been throwing outside the numbers to the wideouts.

I guess after locking Bowe up to that huge deal and seeing him underproduce makes me much ather spend that kind of coin on a huge upgrade at safety.

After all, the offense scored 44 in the playoffs with the weapons we have on offense, but we have nothing after Berry at safety and even he isn't exactly a top itch coverage safety at this point.

I think that's a lot more cost effecient.

I'd say this is why Maclin is the obvious fit, because he'll likely come cheaper.

I'd imagine they'll add a WR in FA, and probably draft one.

DaKCMan AP 01-20-2014 11:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 10382391)
I'll let Dex walk, sign Maclin and re-sign Kyle Williams on the cheap.

That'll give me two great outside threats, an improvement at slot with Avery over Dex, and a proven punt returning expert in Williams.

Boom. Upgraded everywhere except (arguably) punt returns.

Reports are that, after the latest injury, there's concern Kyle Williams is done.

O.city 01-20-2014 11:48 AM

With what Dex was before and after Toub, I'm not real worried about finding a punt returner.

O.city 01-20-2014 11:50 AM

I'd be tempted to sign Maclin and keep Dex actually.

Dunerdr 01-20-2014 11:52 AM

I'd do a one year deal and draft a kid

BossChief 01-20-2014 12:00 PM

Another factor that tends to make me think more about adding ANOTHER guy through free agency that has an injury history that has caused him to miss significant time.

When was the last time we signed a player in FA with an injury history and it actually ended up being a bargain?

I'm having a hard time remembering one.

loochy 01-20-2014 12:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 10382509)
I'd be tempted to sign Maclin and keep Dex actually.

dex will want too much and someone out there will pay it

BossChief 01-20-2014 12:03 PM

Dex will get a payday that is beyond what we should offer.

Rausch 01-20-2014 12:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 10382557)
When was the last time we signed a player in FA with an injury history and it actually ended up being a bargain?

I'm having a hard time remembering one.

FA signing: Priest Holmes

Traded for: Trent Green
Willie Roaf

Rausch 01-20-2014 12:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 10382565)
Dex will get a payday that is beyond what we should offer.

This...

Titty Meat 01-20-2014 12:10 PM

2 knee injuries to the same knee no thanks

notorious 01-20-2014 12:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP (Post 10382174)
Meh.

This.

Easy 6 01-20-2014 12:25 PM

This guy and a talented rookie will do us so much good, Maclin can step right into Reids system and produce immediately.

|Zach| 01-20-2014 12:26 PM

This would be fantastic.

Discuss Thrower 01-20-2014 12:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bo's Pelini (Post 10382590)
2 knee injuries to the same knee no thanks

Yup. Let NE take a flier on him.

Fritz88 01-20-2014 12:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 10382279)
If they want to have a bidding war, they can have him and we can talk to Riley Cooper.

I would take Cooper over Maclin in a heartbeat.

Cooper seems more of the Alex Smith type than Maclin.

loochy 01-20-2014 12:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fritz88 (Post 10382696)
I would take Cooper over Maclin in a heartbeat.

Cooper seems more of the Alex Smith type than Maclin.

he reminds me of wes welker

a real lunchpail kind of guy

good fundamentals

intelligent player

BossChief 01-20-2014 01:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by loochy (Post 10382703)
he reminds me of wes welker

a real lunchpail kind of guy

good fundamentals

intelligent player

That's racist.

Mav 01-20-2014 01:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 10382391)
I'll let Dex walk, sign Maclin and re-sign Kyle Williams on the cheap.

That'll give me two great outside threats, an improvement at slot with Avery over Dex, and a proven punt returning expert in Williams.

Boom. Upgraded everywhere except (arguably) punt returns
.

Uhhhhh.

No. Nope nope nope.

Listen. Do you know WHY Kyle Williams was cut from the 49ers in the first place?

That's right, his fumbling problems, came right back to the surface last year.

You do NOT want this guy anywhere near returning punts.

Mav 01-20-2014 01:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fritz88 (Post 10382696)
I would take Cooper over Maclin in a heartbeat.

Cooper seems more of the Alex Smith type than Maclin.

Cooper also helps on other levels. Like special teams. Those types of players become valuable when you are up against the salary cap.

And, I kind of agree with you about helping Alex Smith more. But, I think you might be underestimating Maclin as a route runner. He ran a lot of shorter stuff, while DJax was more of their deep threat.

Mav 01-20-2014 01:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by loochy (Post 10382703)
he reminds me of wes welker

a real lunchpail kind of guy

good fundamentals

intelligent player

So he will savagely and horrificly hurt the other teams best corners too?

Bring him in.

Direckshun 01-20-2014 01:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP (Post 10382493)
Reports are that, after the latest injury, there's concern Kyle Williams is done.

Oh, balls. That's upsetting.

OnTheWarpath15 01-20-2014 01:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by -King- (Post 10382255)
People saying they wouldn't want him are stupid.
Posted via Mobile Device

This. I'm not sure why people are acting as if an ACL injury is a death sentence. Christ, our best player came back from one with ZERO ill effects.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cochise (Post 10382263)
Maclin is someone who knows the offense, will be available at a discount, and is at our biggest position of need on offense. He's probably the biggest upgrade at that position that would be available on the free agent market. I think adding Maclin to Bowe and Avery would be a nice upgrade, especially for the cap dollars invested.

WR would be hard to solve through the draft anyway, because it takes a WR a few years before they really contribute, most of the time.

Exactly. IMO, they should sign Maclin AND address the position in the draft.

Bowser 01-20-2014 02:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scott free (Post 10382637)
This guy and a talented rookie will do us so much good, Maclin can step right into Reids system and produce immediately.

This. What is so hard to understand about this? We'd get a proven vet in the very system we're running on the cheap. Yeah, he may be rusty at first, but that's what training camp and preseason is for, no?

Bowe, Maclin, McCluster, Jenkins, and a rookie could make a formidable group, especially considering how the offense evolved towards the end of the season. It certainly would be the strongest that group has been in years upon years.

Bowser 01-20-2014 02:03 PM

I hope we sign Maclin and Cooper, just to see the heads explode around here. :evil:


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