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2014 NFL Combine - Players - The WRs
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Jared Abbrederis, Wisconsin 6'1", 195 lb., 31 3/8" arms, 9 5/8" hands Davante Adams, Fresno State 6'1", 212 lb., 32 5/8" arms, 9" hands Odell Beckham, LSU 5'11 1/4", 198 lb., 32 3/4" arms, 10" hands Kelvin Benjamin, Florida State 6'5", 240 lb., 34 7/8" arms, 10 1/4" hands Christopher Boyd, Vanderbilt 6'4", 206 lb., 32 5/8" arms, 9 3/8" hands Philly Brown, Ohio State 5'11", 178 lb., 31 3/4" arms, 9 3/8" hands John Brown, Pittsburg State 5'11", 179 lb., 30 1/2" arms, 8 1/2" hands Martavis Bryant, Clemson 6'3 1/2", 211 lb., 32 5/8" arms, 9 1/2" hands Isaiah Burse, Fresno State 5'10", 188 lb., 30 1/4" arms, 8 3/8" hands Michael Campanaro, Wake Forest 5'9", 192 lb., 30" arms, 9 3/4" hands Brandon Coleman Rutgers 6'6", 225 lb., 34" arms, 9 1/4" hands Kain Colter, Northwestern 5'10", 198 lb., 31" arms, 10" hands Brandin Cooks, Oregon State 5'9 1/2", 189 lb., 30 1/2" arms, 9 5/8" hands Damian Copeland, Louisville 5'11", 184 lb., 31 3/8" arms, 9" hands Mike Davis, Texas 6'0", 197 lb., 32 3/4" arms, 10" hands Bruce Ellington, South Carolina 5'9 1/4", 197 lb., 31" arms, 9 5/8" hands Quincy Enunwa, Nebraska 6'2", 225 lb., 32 5/8" arms, 9 1/2" hands Mike Evans, Texas A&M 6'4 1/2", 231 lb., 35 1/8" arms, 9 5/8" hands Shaq Evans, UCLA 6'1", 213 lb., 32" arms, 9 3/8" hands Bennie Fowler, Michigan State 6'1", 217 lb., 32" arms, 9 3/8" hands Austin Franklin, New Mexico State 5'11", 189 lb., 31 1/4" arms, 10" hands Jeremy Gallon, Michigan 5'7", 185 lb., 29 1/2" arms, 9 3/8" hands Ryan Grant, Tulane 6'0", 199 lb., 31" arms, 9 5/8" hands Matt Hazel, Coastal Carolina 6'1", 198 lb., 31 2/8" arms, 9 1/8" hands Robert Herron, Wyoming 5'9", 193 lb., 30 1/2" arms, 9 3/4" hands Cody Hoffman, BYU 6'4", 223 lb., 33 1/4" arms, 9 3/4" hands Josh Huff, Oregon 5'11", 206 lb., 31 1/4" arms, 9 3/8" hands Allen Hurns, Miami (FL) 6'1", 198 lb., 32" arms, 9 1/4" hands Jeff Janis, Saginaw Valley State 6'3", 219 lb., 32 1/2" arms, 9" hands T.J. Jones, Notre Dame 6'0", 188 lb., 30 5/8" arms, 10" hands Jarvis Landry, LSU 5'11 1/4", 198 lb., 31 1/4" arms, 10 1/4" hands Cody Latimer, Indiana 6'2", 215 lb., 32 5/8" arms, 9 5/8" hands Marqise Lee, USC 5'11 1/2", 192 lb., 31 1/4" arms, 9 1/2" hands Marcus Lucas, Missouri 6'4", 218 lb., 33 5/8" arms, 9 3/8" hands Jordan Matthews, Vanderbilt 6'3", 212 lb., 33 1/4" arms, 10 3/4" hands Donte Moncrief, Mississippi 6'2", 221 lb., 32 2/8" arms, 9 1/8" hands Kevin Norwood, Alabama 6'2", 198 lb., 32 1/8" arms, 10" hands Walt Powell, Murray State 5'11", 189 lb., 31 5/8" arms, 9 1/2" hands Tevin Reese, Baylor 5'10", 163 lb., 31 5/8" arms, 8 5/8" hands Paul Richardson, Colorado 6'0", 175 lb., 32 5/8" arms, 8 7/8" hands Allen Robinson, Penn State 6'2 1/4", 220 lb., 32" arms, 9 1/2" hands Jalen Saunders, Oklahoma 5'9", 163 lb., 30" arms, 8 7/8" hands Willie Snead, Ball State 5'11", 195 lb., 31" arms, 10 1/4" hands Josh Stewart, Oklahoma State 5'10", 178 lb., 30" arms, 9 3/8" hands Devin Street, Pittsburgh 6'3", 198 lb., 33 2/8" arms, 9 1/4" hands L'Damian Washington, Missouri 6'4", 195 lb., 33 3/8" arms, 9" hands Sammy Watkins, Clemson 6'0 1/2", 211 lb., 32" arms, 9 5/8" hands Albert Wilson, Georgia State 5'9", 202 lb., 30 3/8" arms, 9 1/8" hands 2013 Top WR Drafted & Combine Results: Tavon Austion, West Virginia 5'8", 174 lb., 30" arms, 9 1/8" hands Bench: 14 reps 40: 4.34 seconds Vertical: 32.0" Broad Jump: 120.0" 20 Yard Shuttle: 4.01 seconds |
Mike Evans arms are absolutely freakish long.
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Jordan Matthews has some god damn bear claws for hands.
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Cooks measured a little bigger than i thought.
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Best 40 times for WRs, including a WR from Pitt State.
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So how many WRs will be drafted in the first 22 picks?
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Evans and Watkins are definitely gone. Lee and Beckham can go as well. That would leave us with Matthews, Cooks, and Landry in the next group. I think Landry might drop to the 3rd round now though because of his exceptionally slow 40. Really is the next Boldin. Would you trade up for Mike Evans? Also, the strength of this WR class might make Ebron fall to us. |
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Want Benjamin? Go sign Ramses Barden who has been in the league for 4 years and has done absolutely nothing. I say that Benjamin doesn't go until rounds 2-3. He's not a 1st rounder, especially not in this draft class. |
For value at where he is projected in the draft, I would take Jared Abbrederis, Wisconsin 6'1", 195 lb., 31 3/8" arms, 9 5/8" hands, and 4.50 40 time. He is projected as a 3rd rounder. He was also a punt returner before his senior season. If McCluster does not come back, we will need someone to handle that role.
He had some very good games at Wisconsin. He was one of the better Senior Bowl WRs in the practice sessions . |
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cooks, Cooks, COOKS... a guy like that can get open against anyone.
You don't have to be big when you're OPEN. |
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Natural hands. This guy replaces McCluster IMO. |
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I doubt he needs to be take #1 the way things are looking anyway... disagree if you must, but its my opinion that Smith would LOVE a guy like this... he IS going to be able to shake his man for that half second more often than not thus creating a clean and safe throw. |
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my favorite Wr for our first pick at this point would be Jordan Matthews. unmatched production and great speed for his size. he has superstar potential as a number 1 WR. liked cook's production, but lets be honest, he doesn't catch anywhere near that amount of balls in the sec. I like him as much as beckham but I feel they're both pretty limited to the the slot, or can play #2 with a true #1 wide out on the opposite side. Matthews reminds me of his cousin jerry rice. he might not be the flashiest Wr but he produces game in and game out, year in and year out.
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Moncrief is explosive as hell, especially for his size, but has a lot of bad tape from last season. He literally looks nonchalant at times, just like Bowe. Doesn't look interested in blocking at all, showed no tenacity or drive to dominate his opponents. I worry about his will to become great. Has all the physical tools, just don't think that the drive is there.
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I think both Moncrief and Abbrederis could help the Chiefs, but I would prefer Abbrederis.
Donte Moncrief, Mississippi – 6 catch, 122 yards, 2 TD against Auburn. 5 catch, 107 yards against LSU. 7 catch, 149 yards, 1 TD. 6 catch, 115 yards against Missouri. 6 catch, 113 yards, 1 TD against Georgia Tech. Jared Abbrederis – 10 catches, 207 yards, 1 TD against Ohio State’s Bradley Roby. 2 catches, 122 yards, 2 TDs against Massachusetts. 6 catch, 87 yards against Arizona State. 7 catch, 94 yards against Purdue. 8 catch, 106 yards against Illinois. 12 catch, 135 yards against Penn State. He had a total of 78 receptions, 1081 yards, and 7 TDs in 2013. He had 49 receptions, 837 yards, 5 TDs in 2012. Also, in 2012, 43 punt returns, 315 yards, 1 TD. |
BTW, look out for Albert Wilson in the 5th to 6th round. Real burner and could be a great slot guy.
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Cooks, on the other hand, is like a mixed bag. When he's outside the hash, he uses his body and catches the ball similar to Julio Jones, despite the immense size difference, its actually quite refreshing to watch, and I'm huge on Julio. Across the middle though, he plays like a Wayne Chrebet, which is high praise there. I think in the right system with the right coaching with the right scheme, this kid could be absolutely dynamite! |
Receivers look pretty deep. IMO if Clinton-Dix is on the board at #23 you gotta take him.. we can pick our receiver in the 3rd.
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Mike Campanaro, Wake Forest 5'9", 192 lbs, 30" arms, 9 3/4" hands Bench: 20 reps 40: 4.46 seconds Vertical: 39.0" Broad Jump: 122.0" 20 Yard Shuttle: 4.01 seconds He can return punts and is a prototypical slot receiver. |
I know we need lots of help in other positions, but I'd like to draft two receivers from this class
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Ideally, the Chiefs will find some way to trade down.
6 picks isn't enough. We need something closer to 8 or 9. |
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I think this WR class is too good for us to use a roster spot on another known FA commodity. |
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He would be a PERFECT fit for our offense, too. He would get a lot of balls thrown his way by Alex because he is so dependable. |
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This draft is gonna have some guys available in the late 5th/early 6th round that would be 3rd or 4th rounders in any other draft. The depth of this class is just unreal. I'm surprised so many underclass men declared. Some of them made big mistakes. |
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Even without Albert, I think our line just needs shuffled and has the potential to be really good.
LT fisher Lg Hudson C Kush RG Schwartz RT Stephenson That line has the makings of a really solid unit. |
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Speaking of WRs, what's everyone's take on Martavis Bryant?
For me, great measurables, but I question his character & desire to become great. Only had one decent season. |
Look, there's a blazing fast WR from the state of Kansas named John Brown. How could I NOT want?
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Compared to Tavon Austin last year (Cooks in red): Tavon Austion, West Virginia 5'8", 174 lb., 30" arms, 9 1/8" hands 5'9 1/2", 189 lb., 30 1/2" arms, 9 5/8" hands Bench: 14 reps Bench: 16 reps 40: 4.34 seconds 40: 4.33 seconds Vertical: 32.0" Vertical: 36.0" Broad Jump: 120.0" Broad Jump: 120.0" 20 Yard Shuttle: 4.01 seconds 20 Yard Shuttle: 3.81 seconds |
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Cooks is an excellent pick for a team that already has weapons in the passing game. That's not us. We need a legit #1 receiver or tight end. If we were able to trade back from 23 to say... 26 and pick up a 2nd rounder, then I could see us going Amaro in the first and coming back for a WR with the next pick. |
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For the Chiefs, I personally believe that a fast TE or a pass rushing OLB would have the biggest impact on the Chiefs. My post was more about being a fan of Cooks. Quote:
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Beckham, Moncrief and Mathews are my personal draft crushes at WR.
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Cooks is a lot closer to Austin than he is to Steve Smith. He's a slot guy and you would be a fool to try to depend on him as an outside #1 type receiver. Let him play in the slot and work in space where he's best at. Sure you can line him up outside, but he's going to have limited success there. You want him facing the 3rd best corner on the other team, not the top 2 cover guys. |
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The funny thing is that they'll probably get one now in either Watkins or Evans. And then Tayvon will blow up. Which could be Cooks for us... But I think I'd just rather go with Beckham or Lee - someone who can take over for Bowe in a couple years. I'm not saying Cooks is a gimmick WR - he's definitely not a midget like McCluster or Devon Wylie (!), but I'm just... I don't know. ****ing Baldwin has just made me totally gunshy on receivers across the board. But we absolutely need one. |
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Matthews is a try-hard with an incredible work ethic and great measurables; I'm just not sure that he has the ability to separate at the NFL level because he struggled with it in college against decent corners. Also, for how big his hands are, he was inconsistent at catching the ball in 2013, just like Moncreif. Beckham has fringe #1 measurables. Best thing about him is his ability to go up and get the ball and his bigger than normal hands for his size as well as his relatively long arms at 32 3/4". Explosive player with a 38.5" vertical and it's on display in game tape as well so he's not just a workout warrior. He has the catch radius of a much larger WR with the ability of a smaller WR to create separation with his explosion. He does have concentration issues once in a while though and will look to run before securing the catch. Needs to be more consistent in reeling in contested catches as well, his hands are too strong for him to drop as many passes as he does. This is ridiculous: http://cdn0.sbnation.com/imported_as...off-catch1.gif And here against my favorite corner in this draft, sorry Verrett, he got you good on this one: http://cdn1.sbnation.com/imported_as...eckham1011.gif If he were more consistent with everything that he flashes as a WR, Beckham would be in discussions with Watkins as the top WR in this class. |
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As for the catch radius, Watkins' arms are an 1.5" longer, so it's not like there is a huge difference in the catch radius. This argument is stupid and pointless (big surprise there, Bob). The point wasn't to bash Watkins or to say Cooks is better; it was just to say Cooks isn't that far off from the best. Cooks wasn't a household name because he played at Oregon State, not USC or in the SEC, so it appears that people here don't know him or have watched him play (except for Pest and his awesome wife). I was trying to put in a perspective of someone who had watched him play a lot. I am also not pushing for the Chiefs to draft him (though I would be cool with it). However, you're the guy that said you would rather have Josh Huff over Brandin Cooks (lol), so I figure you're just another delusional Ducks fan. |
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1st target: 8 yard hitch, complete for 1st down. 0 YAC. 2nd target: 6 yard in route, result- Pass broken up by Ekpre Olomu, Cooks stopped his route cause he had nowhere to go. 3rd target: Deep post in the end zone, result- INT by Ekpre Olomu, no separation created by Cooks. He didn't even fight for the ball and Olomu is just as small as he is. 4th target: Another post about 10 yards, result: Incomplete pass broken up by Ekpre Olomu, again, Cooks had zero separation against the only potential NFL starting caliber CB he faced. Etc etc. Get the picture? Whenever Cooks lined up outside against a good CB, he couldn't do anything. His only real damage that he did against Oregon in that game was via little underneath screen plays or against the significantly less talented Terrence Mitchell. Cooks is not a #1 WR and should not be thought of as such. He will not have consistent success going up against #1 cover corners in this league. His place is in the slot where he can do his damage against lesser opponents like Victor Cruz does. |
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I agree that Matthews is a motor guy...which is what I like about him. He probably learned that from his older cousin. But he's not slow like you're suggesting. 4.46 is a very solid WR speed. |
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As far as Matthews goes, he does not look like a 4.46 guy at all; which is why I was surprised when he timed that fast in the 40. |
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You make it sound like Ekpre Olomu covered him one on one in the Civil War. The Ducks rolled their coverage towards Cooks and did everything they could to take him out of the game. They paid so much attention to Cooks, the Beavers were able to run at will, something they hadn't been able to do all season. The Cal connections explains a lot. LMAO |
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The highlights I've seen show Mathews has some speed...but he was also hampered with a QB that really didn't have much of an arm. I see him adjusting his routes quite a bit. |
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<iframe width="640" height="360" src="//www.youtube.com/embed/Wj6MJcyV24Y?feature=player_embedded" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe> This is how pretty much all of his games are. Same inconsistency as Bowe. |
Noir Robert may well be right about Cooks, he's watched the guy a lot more than I have, and his opinions seem informed... but I still believe Cooks can be, at the LEAST, an exceptional, game breaking #2.
Whats not being accounted for in his take is NFL level coaching ie; route running and hand skills... and old fashioned maturity that comes with time in the big leagues. He may never be a true #1, but at worst he's a take it to the house 2 or 3 on any given play type of player... cuts on a dime, instant burst, top end speed... all ingredients for success at the next level. |
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http://bloggingthebeast.com/wp-conte...-respect-1.png This play against the Huskies was sick: http://bloggingthebeast.com/wp-conte.../Cooks-YAC.gif |
Don't know how you could be upset with Cooks or Beckham.
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Oh, and this is why OldBob doesn't like Cooks:
http://bloggingthebeast.com/wp-conte...ooks-YAC-2.gif :) |
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I say that Cooks couldn't get open on the outside against a NFL starting level corner and you go post a clip of Cooks facing Practice Squad, at best, level players. And wtf is Bob? |
This pretty much sums up Cooks vs Olomu.
http://dailyemerald.com/wp-content/u....OSU_.0461.jpg https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/i...wyVGyeM2EPsPMQ |
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End result of these most recent posts... I'll be absolutely thrilled with Cooks, but if they decide to go taller/slightly more longstrider, I'll still be happy.
Just gimme some damn upgrades, big and leapy, short and squirty... just do some IMPROVING... its honestly tough trying to figure out what Reid and co. want in this first real (scouting department fully enrolled) draft of the regime. Extremely interesting draft no matter what happens, gah I cant wait... football is life. |
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But seriously, if Beckham, Lee, and Evans are all gone, I would want Cooks if we were going to take a receiver there. Reid found a way to milk McCluster for 53 receptions and 511 yards in his first season here. What would he do with Brandin Cooks in Dexter's old role? :drool: |
Trade down and pick up Matthews and Abbrederis. 'nuff said
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Damn, Landry has some big ass hands.
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