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Mr. Laz 02-24-2014 01:46 PM

Chiefs meet with Mike Evans,Marqise Lee at Combine
 
<header> NFL Combine: Mike Evans, Marqise Lee meet with Chiefs

By Joel Thorman @JoelThorman on Feb 23 2014, 7:56a 264

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http://cdn3.sbnation.com/uploads/cho...dard_709.0.jpg Thomas Campbell-USA TODAY Sports

The Kansas City Chiefs will meet with two of the top receivers in the 2014 NFL Draft -- USC WR Marqise Lee and Texas A&M WR Mike Evans.
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Between the college all-star games (East-West Shrine game, Senior Bowl), the NFL Combine, pro days and pre-draft visits, the Kansas City Chiefs will meet with a lot of players before the 2014 NFL Draft. In fact, GM John Dorsey told reporters that they will interview about 75 percent of the rookies in this draft class.

That said, I admit I was a little excited reading from the KC Star's Terez Paylor and Chiefs Spin's Herbie Teope that the Chiefs were meeting with two of the top receivers in this class.

That would be USC's Marqise Lee and Texas A&M's Mike Evans.

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Terez A. Paylor @TerezPaylor Follow
Texas A&M receiver Mike Evans said the #Chiefs were the first team he met with yesterday. Said he talked to WR coach David Culley.
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Herbie Teope @HerbieTeope Follow
USC WR Marqise Lee said the #Chiefs are one of the teams he will meet with today. Also said has meetings with Jets, Lions.
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Herbie Teope @HerbieTeope Follow USC WR Marqise Lee said the #Chiefs are one of the teams he will meet with today. Also said has meetings with Jets, Lions.


Lee weighed in at 5'11 and 192 pounds while Evans was listed at 6'4 and 231 pounds. Without knowing a whole lot about each player's game, Lee seems like the more realistic option just knowing what I know about Andy Reid's history of receivers. He doesn't have the history of getting those 6'5 behemoth receivers who tower over everyone. He likes speed. Not that Mike Evans wouldn't work either ... the guy looked like an awesome player in college.

As Dorsey said, the Chiefs interview a lot of players but I do find these two especially interesting. Lee has been mocked the Chiefs regularly since the season ended. AP reader Bsrkr posted about Lee here.
Evans is the No. 7 overall player on the Mocking The Draft top 200 big board while Lee is No. 12. Read the Evans scouting report here and the Lee scouting report here.<iframe style="display: none;" allowtransparency="true" id="rufous-sandbox" frameborder="0" scrolling="no"></iframe>

RealSNR 02-24-2014 01:49 PM

I've cooled off on Marquise Lee recently, though I would still love to have him on the team.

BlackHelicopters 02-24-2014 01:51 PM

Lee would be a fine addition.

In58men 02-24-2014 02:00 PM

Kelvin Benjamin for me.

MMXcalibur 02-24-2014 02:01 PM

I'm more interested in prospective long snappers in Round 1.
Nobody ever talks about those.

greatgooglymoogly 02-24-2014 02:03 PM

I won't hold Lee liable for USC's craptastic QB play.

Eleazar 02-24-2014 02:05 PM

smokescreen

Dayze 02-24-2014 02:06 PM

we're fooling everyone so we can get our coveted 1st round OL.

penbrook 02-24-2014 02:06 PM

They also met with Ha Ha Clinton Dix and Calvin pryor

In58men 02-24-2014 02:13 PM

I also like Odell Beckman Jr more than Lee. Randall Cobb type player.

Dante84 02-24-2014 02:27 PM

I've got a thread I'm updating with a list of every guy we've reportedly talked to, met with, and interviewed.

Feel free to contribute if you catch any additions!

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=280847

suzzer99 02-24-2014 02:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KCtotheSB (Post 10450742)
I'm more interested in prospective long snappers in Round 1.
Nobody ever talks about those.

BPA

Hammock Parties 02-24-2014 02:32 PM

GTFO Dex

Dunerdr 02-24-2014 02:36 PM

Old news. Dorsey said they'll interview roughly 75% of the draft class.

Mr. Laz 02-24-2014 02:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dante84 (Post 10450779)
I've got a thread I'm updating with a list of every guy we've reportedly talked to, met with, and interviewed.

Feel free to contribute if you catch any additions!

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=280847

Well a lot of us regular folk aren't going to ever see it since we don't measure up to Direchshun quality of standards for the draft.

OldSchool 02-24-2014 03:04 PM

Evans>>>Lee
Beckham>>Lee

BigMeatballDave 02-24-2014 03:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dayze (Post 10450754)
we're fooling everyone so we can get our coveted 1st round OL.

I don't quite get this running joke.

How many OL have the Chiefs taken in the 1st, in the past 10 drafts?

The answer is 2.

And one was a trade.

Dayze 02-24-2014 03:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BCD (Post 10450845)
I don't quite get this running joke.

How many OL have the Chiefs taken in the 1st, in the past 10 drafts?

The answer is 2.

And one was a trade.

it's not so much of what we've done, but more of the Chiefs are reeruned and will find a way to screw it up.

saphojunkie 02-24-2014 04:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OldSchool (Post 10450831)
Evans>>>Lee
Beckham>>Lee

No, dude. You're wrong on this one. Your big complaint is Lee had too many drops this season, as if his previous seasons of complete badassery never existed.

Stalker 02-24-2014 04:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dayze (Post 10450888)
it's not so much of what we've done, but more of the Chiefs are reeruned and will find a way to screw it up.

exactly, It comes naturally to this franchise. If we had drafted Peyton Manning, we would have found a way to **** it up

Mav 02-24-2014 04:50 PM

Evans. After seeing him run, his hand size. And no, this guy is NOT BALDWIN.

keg in kc 02-24-2014 04:57 PM

I don't see how we'd be in range for either of them. Plus as stated before, they're interviewing just about everybody with a pulse.

Mr. Laz 02-24-2014 05:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mavericks Ace (Post 10450966)
Evans. After seeing him run, his hand size. And no, this guy is NOT BALDWIN.

i was surprised by his speed.

KCrockaholic 02-24-2014 05:15 PM

Mike Evans is the real deal.

My only thing to think about is which would I prefer betwen Odell Beckham and Evans. After Watkins, those are my top 2 WRs. Hopefully one of them falls to KC. I know the Jets would love Mike Evans out there. Perfect fit.

saphojunkie 02-24-2014 05:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KCrockaholic (Post 10451012)
Mike Evans is the real deal.

My only thing to think about is which would I prefer betwen Odell Beckham and Evans. After Watkins, those are my top 2 WRs. Hopefully one of them falls to KC. I know the Jets would love Mike Evans out there. Perfect fit.

My only concern about Mike Evans is that he doesn't get great separation, or even really good separation. Now, maybe he just has never had to, and he will develop that at the next level... but maybe not.

Alex Smith has shown time and again that he will throw to the open receiver, and no one else. Jump balls just aren't his thing, so I'm not sure exactly how useful Evans would be in this offense with this QB. Of course, he also has sick hands, is tall as shit, with gorilla arms.

I don't see how Evans isn't the #1 WR on the board after that combine. It's not like he doesn't have the production to back up the workout numbers.

KCrockaholic 02-24-2014 05:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by saphojunkie (Post 10451019)
My only concern about Mike Evans is that he doesn't get great separation, or even really good separation. Now, maybe he just has never had to, and he will develop that at the next level... but maybe not.

Alex Smith has shown time and again that he will throw to the open receiver, and no one else. Jump balls just aren't his thing, so I'm not sure exactly how useful Evans would be in this offense with this QB. Of course, he also has sick hands, is tall as shit, with gorilla arms.

I don't see how Evans isn't the #1 WR on the board after that combine. It's not like he doesn't have the production to back up the workout numbers.

Yeah I think Beckham fits our offense better, but I see Evans as a big play guy that will beat a CB one on one in most situations because of his body and ball skills. Evans is also a very smart player.

Working with Manziel he was constantly finding ways to come back to the QB, and help out his guy after the play was broken down. That's an important trait IMO. He averaged over 20 yards per catch which is just insane.

The size, speed ratio is off the charts, and he plays fast as well. It's not a situation like with Baldwin where the guy timed well, but doesn't show up. As for separation concerns, I'm not entirely too worried about it.

He will learn in the NFL how to use his body to get open and use his hands in particular to gain leverage on the DB. Similar to Vincent Jackson, but I think Evans has more upside. Keep in mind he's a RS Sophomore.

Mr. Laz 02-24-2014 05:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by saphojunkie (Post 10451019)
My only concern about Mike Evans is that he doesn't get great separation, or even really good separation. Now, maybe he just has never had to, and he will develop that at the next level... but maybe not.

Alex Smith has shown time and again that he will throw to the open receiver, and no one else. Jump balls just aren't his thing, so I'm not sure exactly how useful Evans would be in this offense with this QB. Of course, he also has sick hands, is tall as shit, with gorilla arms.

I don't see how Evans isn't the #1 WR on the board after that combine. It's not like he doesn't have the production to back up the workout numbers.

Agreed, my first thoughts as well

1. How come Evans doesn't get more separation with that speed and quickness? (3 cone a bit slow 7.08)

2. Alex Smith tried to throw some 'jump ball' type passes to our receivers and they failed to win the battle for the ball. Can't blame him for not doing it much. I wouldn't keep throwing it up if i didn't think your guy was going to win.

DrRyan 02-24-2014 05:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Inmem58 (Post 10450740)
Kelvin Benjamin for me.

No thanks. I would prefer Beckham, Lee, Cooks or even Josh Huff much later than Benjamin. All those guys appear to run better routes than Benjamin.

KCrockaholic 02-24-2014 05:44 PM

I guess I'll say this... If I'm the Jets, or most NFL teams, I take Evans. If I'm the Chiefs... I think I gotta go with Beckham. Plus he gets to join our kick return circus.

That's the problem with having a QB who is just a "space thrower".

If they're both gone, which is very possible, I think I'd look at Pryor, or possibly even Brandin Cooks. I don't care about size, the guy can play.

Mother****erJones 02-24-2014 05:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dayze (Post 10450888)
it's not so much of what we've done, but more of the Chiefs are reeruned and will find a way to screw it up.

We're also extremely unlucky. I mean the first time we get the number 1 pick there's no one worth taking. But the previous year was Luck. This year there's a few Quarterbacks and Clowney, Mack, etc

O.city 02-24-2014 06:02 PM

Not only that, we have the first pick the year after the qb, then no second rounder in the deepest draft in the last 10 years.

KCrockaholic 02-24-2014 06:05 PM

We had a crap load of picks in the 2008 draft, which was a pretty good class. Dorsey is just going to have to basically not miss on the first two picks, and maybe even the first three picks. If he misses, that's not good news because there's a ton of talent in the class.

Jimmya 02-24-2014 06:07 PM

I'm with Evans.

CaliforniaChief 02-24-2014 06:19 PM

Guys like us hear about interviews with players and think we might be interested in drafting them by moving up/down. GM's are already building files for future free agents/released guys. Never stop compiling data.

O.city 02-24-2014 06:26 PM

Not only that, but you're prolly gonna be playing against these guys at some point

Hog's Gone Fishin 02-24-2014 07:24 PM

We're finally gonna get us a great Wideout, I can just feel it.

Friendo 02-24-2014 07:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KCrockaholic (Post 10451065)
I guess I'll say this... If I'm the Jets, or most NFL teams, I take Evans. If I'm the Chiefs... I think I gotta go with Beckham. Plus he gets to join our kick return circus.

That's the problem with having a QB who is just a "space thrower".

If they're both gone, which is very possible, I think I'd look at Pryor, or possibly even Brandin Cooks. I don't care about size, the guy can play.

Steve Smith: 5'9" 185
Brandin Cooks: 5'10" 190 (at 21)

works for me...although I don't think he'll fall that far.

OldSchool 02-24-2014 07:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Friendo (Post 10451276)
Steve Smith: 5'9" 185
Brandin Cooks: 5'10" 190 (at 21)

works for me...although I don't think he'll fall that far.

Cooks might sneak into the 1st. Likely a high 2nd round pick though.

Ragged Robin 02-24-2014 08:02 PM

plz no more little dude receivers... especially when there are a bunch of guys above 6'1 who can run a 4.3-4.4 in this draft even in the later rounds..

Alex's track record has always been with bigger receivers.. Vernon Davis 6'3, Antonio Bryant 6'2, Michael Crabtree 6'1..

OldSchool 02-24-2014 08:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ragged Robin (Post 10451324)
plz no more little dude receivers... especially when there are a bunch of guys above 6'1 who can run a 4.3-4.4 in this draft even in the later rounds..

Alex's track record has always been with bigger receivers.. Vernon Davis 6'3, Antonio Bryant 6'2, Michael Crabtree 6'1..

Tiny catch radius is the downside of Cooks. I would take Jordan Matthews over him, I think he's as close as you can come to Jerry Rice in terms of work ethic in WRs coming out of college these days.

Mr. Laz 02-24-2014 09:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OldSchool (Post 10451425)
Tiny catch radius is the downside of Cooks. I would take Jordan Matthews over him, I think he's as close as you can come to Jerry Rice in terms of work ethic in WRs coming out of college these days.

separation over catch radius for our team imo

OldSchool 02-24-2014 09:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Laz (Post 10451487)
separation over catch radius for our team imo

Again, my issue is that we can get 1 of 10-15 players who would end up being good/great slot guys in this draft. There are only a few realistic potential #1 wrs in this draft. The rest are 2s and slot guys. Cooks falls in the slot category.

BossChief 02-24-2014 09:25 PM

Marquis Lee is a ****ing amazing player that we would be lucky to have at 23.

That guy has game breaker written all over him.

Tribal Warfare 02-24-2014 09:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SNR (Post 10450731)
I've cooled off on Marquise Lee recently, though I would still love to have him on the team.

If he can stay healthy I'd take him. If Lee wasn't injured last season then he'd be a surefire top 10 prospect

SeeingRed 02-24-2014 10:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Inmem58 (Post 10450760)
I also like Odell Beckman Jr more than Lee. Randall Cobb type player.

Yep....I love him in this offense...perfect...dynamic athlete and play maker


http://nfl.si.com/2014/02/23/odell-b...ide-receivers/

SeeingRed 02-24-2014 10:51 PM

all that play making and also runs a 4.31....he would be a great weapon for Smith


http://www.neworleanssaints.com/medi...b-3a60713e35ba

SeeingRed 02-24-2014 10:58 PM

Remember the name if he is there at our pick....Im all in with this guy.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0jZbGUMevcI

BossChief 02-24-2014 11:14 PM

Just embed the videos

Micjones 02-24-2014 11:41 PM

Lee's a bit too injury prone for my taste.
I'd prefer either Odell Beckham or Brandin Cooks.

Chiefshrink 02-25-2014 12:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cochise (Post 10450750)
smokescreen

BINGO !! From here on out it's all that will be is serious bluff NFL poker for sure;)

BossChief 02-25-2014 01:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OldSchool (Post 10450831)
Evans>>>Lee
Beckham>>Lee

Quote:

Originally Posted by Micjones (Post 10451941)
Lee's a bit too injury prone for my taste.
I'd prefer either Odell Beckham or Brandin Cooks.

Injury prone?

Huh?

I'm pretty sure he has only missed like 3 games in 3 years...but I could be mistaken.

If he had a decent quarterback, he would have killed it again. He had almost 3000 yards and 25 touchdowns in 2 years with Matt Barkley.

Kids a stud.

Valiant 02-25-2014 01:15 AM

I do not know much about them.

Which one of them is fast, runs good routes and has good hands? Basically a number 1?

OldSchool 02-25-2014 01:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 10452129)
Injury prone?

Huh?

I'm pretty sure he has only missed like 3 games in 3 years...but I could be mistaken.

If he had a decent quarterback, he would have killed it again. He had almost 3000 yards and 25 touchdowns in 2 years with Matt Barkley.

Kids a stud.

With Robert Woods as well. He didn't have Woods in 2013 to help him out. But it wasn't just the QB play, it was the fact that he dropped a bunch of passes that puts me off. Then he goes and doesn't break a 4.4 40 like I thought he would.

OldSchool 02-25-2014 01:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Valiant (Post 10452154)
I do not know much about them.

Which one of them is fast, runs good routes and has good hands? Basically a number 1?

Beckham. He has long arms and big hands for his size too.

htismaqe 02-25-2014 07:54 AM

I like Evans and Beckham.

I think there are guys comparable to Lee that can be had later.

philfree 02-25-2014 08:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OldSchool (Post 10452156)
With Robert Woods as well. He didn't have Woods in 2013 to help him out. But it wasn't just the QB play, it was the fact that he dropped a bunch of passes that puts me off. Then he goes and doesn't break a 4.4 40 like I thought he would.

I think you're the only person who thought Lee would run a 4.4. To me he is what I thought he was.

SeeingRed 02-25-2014 11:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Valiant (Post 10452154)
I do not know much about them.

Which one of them is fast, runs good routes and has good hands? Basically a number 1?

Beckham

saphojunkie 02-25-2014 11:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 10452353)
I like Evans and Beckham.

I think there are guys comparable to Lee that can be had later.

Might even be Lee himself.

Jimmya 02-25-2014 11:41 AM

True, Lee may drop.

Mr. Laz 02-25-2014 01:00 PM

Beckham would be the only Chiefs receiver that 'hand catches' if we draft him.


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