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Road Hog 03-10-2014 06:52 PM

Albert a done deal
 
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/eye-on-...r-10m-per-year

-King- 03-10-2014 06:53 PM

Thats a lot of money...

PRIEST 03-10-2014 06:54 PM

Tampering ........give us draft picks.

Rausch 03-10-2014 06:54 PM

Still pissed we didn't take their lower 3rd.

Dolphins wait one more year and get him without giving up compensation...

TLO 03-10-2014 06:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 10478119)
Still pissed we didn't take their lower 3rd.

Dolphins wait one more year and get him without giving up compensation...

I have a question Rausch. Why do you always end your posts with....?

-King- 03-10-2014 06:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 10478119)
Still pissed we didn't take their lower 3rd.

Dolphins wait one more year and get him without giving up compensation...

That likely hurt them more than it hurt us. I'm sure if they had to do it over, they'd gladly give up their 2nd round pick to keep their hopeful franchise QB from being sacked 58 times.

Rausch 03-10-2014 06:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Big Smoke (Post 10478126)
I have a question Rausch. Why do you always end your posts with....?

Yes...

Cannibal 03-10-2014 06:59 PM

Won't we get a 3rd round compensatory pick for him next year?

-King- 03-10-2014 07:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cannibal (Post 10478139)
Won't we get a 3rd round compensatory pick for him next year?

Yes.

alpha_omega 03-10-2014 07:00 PM

Good...movin' on.

ShowtimeSBMVP 03-10-2014 07:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cannibal (Post 10478139)
Won't we get a 3rd round compensatory pick for him next year?

Maybe all up to who we sign.

planetdoc 03-10-2014 07:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by -King- (Post 10478128)
That likely hurt them more than it hurt us. I'm sure if they had to do it over, they'd gladly give up their 2nd round pick to keep their hopeful franchise QB from being sacked 58 times.

not only that, but Ireland might not have been fired, etc.

Coaches and GMs generally are in a "win now" mode because owners and fans aren't patient.

OldSchool 03-10-2014 07:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cannibal (Post 10478139)
Won't we get a 3rd round compensatory pick for him next year?

Yeah, in a likely shitty draft class.

stonedstooge 03-10-2014 07:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 10478119)
Still pissed we didn't take their lower 3rd.

Dolphins wait one more year and get him without giving up compensation...

Just like we did with Alex Smith, oh wait....

Hoover 03-10-2014 07:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefsandO'sfan (Post 10478146)
Maybe all up to who we sign.

We are not going to do shit in Free Agency. We are going to get some nice comp picks.

Albert, Asamoah, McCluster, and Schwartz are all going to sign decent contracts. I see us signing a FS and maybe a decent WR. Nowhere close to what we are losing. Oh, and We are losing Tyson Jackson too.

TLO 03-10-2014 07:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 10478130)
Yes...

What...

OrtonsPiercedTaint 03-10-2014 07:09 PM

After having to defend him for 5 season. This should be like the weight of a millstone removed from some shoulders around here.

TLO 03-10-2014 07:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hoover (Post 10478161)
We are not going to do shit in Free Agency. We are going to get some nice comp picks.

Albert, Asamoah, McCluster, and Schwartz are all going to sign decent contracts. I see us signing a FS and maybe a decent WR. Nowhere close to what we are losing. Oh, and We are losing Tyson Jackson too.

NOT TYSON JACKSON!!!!!!11!!!1!!

Hoover 03-10-2014 07:10 PM

All I'm saying is we are going to lose a hell of a lot more in FA than we will gain.

BigBeauford 03-10-2014 07:10 PM

Man, so the dude gets to ride off into the sunset making bank, while living in South Beach where(correct me if I am wrong) there is no state income tax?

Hammock Parties 03-10-2014 07:12 PM

**** you, Dorsey. **** you, Pioli.

Dave Lane 03-10-2014 07:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hoover (Post 10478161)
We are not going to do shit in Free Agency. We are going to get some nice comp picks.

Albert, Asamoah, McCluster, and Schwartz are all going to sign decent contracts. I see us signing a FS and maybe a decent WR. Nowhere close to what we are losing. Oh, and We are losing Tyson Jackson too.

And coming off a 4-12 season we should be picking high. And probably looking for a new QB after Fisher mans LT

Hoover 03-10-2014 07:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave Lane (Post 10478184)
And coming off a 4-12 season we should be picking high. And probably looking for a new QB after Fisher mans LT

Some of you guys are just so damn depressing.

I for one am glad we are not resigning all these guys. Giving guys like Albert, Asamoah, and McCluster the contracts they are going to land leads to one place - salary cap hell. Let them walk and trust your scouts and general manager.

I have no doubt we can find a LG.

I have no doubt we can find a PR/WR.

I worry about FS.

saphojunkie 03-10-2014 07:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Douche Baggins (Post 10478179)
**** you, Dorsey. **** you, Pioli.

What should he have done differently? Paid MORE than 10 mil/year?

Dave Lane 03-10-2014 07:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hoover (Post 10478198)
Some of you guys are just so damn depressing.

I for one am glad we are not resigning all these guys. Giving guys like Albert, Asamoah, and McCluster the contracts they are going to land leads to one place - salary cap hell. Let them walk and trust your scouts and general manager.

I have no doubt we can find a LG.

I have no doubt we can find a PR/WR.

I worry about FS.

I'm not depressing, I'm a realist. 4-12 is pretty strong possibility. 4-6 wins is about it for this year.

Hammock Parties 03-10-2014 07:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by saphojunkie (Post 10478205)
What should he have done differently? Paid MORE than 10 mil/year?

Signed Albert. Don't care. **** you. **** him. Excuses are for failures.

Dave Lane 03-10-2014 07:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by saphojunkie (Post 10478205)
What should he have done differently? Paid MORE than 10 mil/year?

Signed them a long time ago to an extension.

ShowtimeSBMVP 03-10-2014 07:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave Lane (Post 10478216)
Signed them a long time ago to an extension.

You do know it takes 2 sides to make a deal right?

ShowtimeSBMVP 03-10-2014 07:23 PM

Albert will be 30 years old this season. You don't pay OT in their 30's 10m a year.

saphojunkie 03-10-2014 07:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave Lane (Post 10478216)
Signed them a long time ago to an extension.

When? Last year? Branden Albert was never going to take less than he would get from Miami. Never.

He wanted premium left tackle money and has always said so.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Douche Baggins (Post 10478212)
Signed Albert. Don't care. **** you. **** him. Excuses are for failures.

http://gifrific.com/wp-content/uploa...-thumbs-up.gif

'Hamas' Jenkins 03-10-2014 07:24 PM

They could have likely re-upped him for $9 million per last offseason. Not re-signing him last year or trading him was a mistake.

O.city 03-10-2014 07:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 10478228)
They could have likely re-upped him for $9 million per last offseason. Not re-signing him last year or trading him was a mistake.

Should have just taken what trade they could have gotten and been done with it.

Hoover 03-10-2014 07:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefsandO'sfan (Post 10478224)
Albert will be 30 years old this season. You don't pay OT in their 30's 10m a year.

I agree. Hard to let them walk, but its the right thing to do.

Rausch 03-10-2014 07:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cannibal (Post 10478139)
Won't we get a 3rd round compensatory pick for him next year?

It's not that simple.

There's some formula for players lost vs. players gained. How much the players gained played, how much the players lost played, total FA's lost and gained.

There's no telling what comp pick we get but whatever it is it's at the ass end of that round. So getting a 3rd would be more like getting a high 4th.

RealSNR 03-10-2014 07:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OldSchool (Post 10478156)
Yeah, in a likely shitty draft class.

We have Dorsey. It's his job to find great players in shitty draft classes.

saphojunkie 03-10-2014 07:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 10478228)
They could have likely re-upped him for $9 million per last offseason. Not re-signing him last year or trading him was a mistake.

Still way too ****ing much.

RealSNR 03-10-2014 07:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by saphojunkie (Post 10478314)
Still way too ****ing much.

I'd rather pay money than spend the 1.1 pick on a player to replace him who isn't even as good.

Chiefnj2 03-10-2014 07:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hoover (Post 10478233)
I agree. Hard to let them walk, but its the right thing to do.

I'm not sure losing your two best offensive linemen is the right thing to do.

Rausch 03-10-2014 07:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 10478339)
I'm not sure losing your two best offensive linemen is the right thing to do.

If they don't want to play for you it's the only thing you can do...

Chiefnj2 03-10-2014 07:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 10478342)
If they don't want to play for you it's the only thing you can do...

Don't want to play isn't the same as not being able to work out an extension.

saphojunkie 03-10-2014 07:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SNR (Post 10478327)
I'd rather pay money than spend the 1.1 pick on a player to replace him who isn't even as good.

Paying elite money to a non-elite player isn't any better than drafting a non-elite player at first overall.

ChiTown 03-10-2014 07:55 PM

Hey! At least Frank Zombo is coming back..............

Rausch 03-10-2014 07:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 10478350)
Don't want to play isn't the same as not being able to work out an extension.

One wants top LT money and the other wants a starting job locked down.

That wasn't going to happen here...

bigjosh 03-10-2014 07:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 10478350)
Don't want to play isn't the same as not being able to work out an extension.


Sorry, if I'm Dorsey, thinking about the future, I'm more worried about keeping 2 key defensive players in their mid twenties for what will probably be 18 - 20 mil a year together than an aging Branden Albert

Chiefnj2 03-10-2014 07:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 10478359)
One wants top LT money and the other wants a starting job locked down.

That wasn't going to happen here...

He earned the starting job

Chiefnj2 03-10-2014 07:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigjosh006 (Post 10478366)
Sorry, if I'm Dorsey, thinking about the future, I'm more worried about keeping 2 key defensive players in their mid twenties for what will probably be 18 - 20 mil a year together than an aging Branden Albert

Why are you so worried about "the future"? Win a damn playoff game in 2014. DJ, Flowers, Hali, Bowe and even Charles aren't getting any younger.

-King- 03-10-2014 07:59 PM

As bad as drafting Fisher first overall was, I can't get around the idea of Albert making 10 mil a year.
Posted via Mobile Device

ChiTown 03-10-2014 08:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 10478384)
Why are you so worried about "the future"? Win a damn playoff game in 2014. DJ, Flowers, Hali, Bowe and even Charles aren't getting any younger.

T. H. I. S.

bigjosh 03-10-2014 08:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SNR (Post 10478327)
I'd rather pay money than spend the 1.1 pick on a player to replace him who isn't even as good.


Seriously though, I was all in for geno smith too, but looking back, what were our other options. I'm still not excited about fisher, who the **** would be? But that draft class was a shit show.

Rausch 03-10-2014 08:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 10478372)
He earned the starting job

Apparently Dorsey disagrees with you...

Jimmya 03-10-2014 08:02 PM

I do laugh at all the guys that say "think about the future"....then we don't win and we can't afford to sign these players that were good when they were young. Win now!

bigjosh 03-10-2014 08:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 10478384)
Why are you so worried about "the future"? Win a damn playoff game in 2014. DJ, Flowers, Hali, Bowe and even Charles aren't getting any younger.


I'm pretty sure Dorsey wants to keep his job for more than 4 years right?

No you're right though sign Albert for 10 mil and watch Justin Houston go to ****ing Oakland next year. Then you would be crying about that right?

Like I said, I'd rather have berry and Houston here for the next 6 years than Branden ****ing albert

Chiefnj2 03-10-2014 08:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 10478393)
Apparently Dorsey disagrees with you...

Enjoy cheering on Chase Daniel ... ... ...

Hammock Parties 03-10-2014 08:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by saphojunkie (Post 10478314)
Still way too ****ing much.

Yeah we overpaid Bowe too. God dammit.

FYI, **** you, **** you, **** you.

Mr. Laz 03-10-2014 08:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Douche Baggins (Post 10478212)
Signed Albert. Don't care. **** you. **** him. Excuses are for failures.

there is reality for ya .. don't care, don't know ... just wave your magic wand and sign him.


stupid bitch


either pay 10 million per,trade him last year or let him walk

those are your 3 choices

TEX 03-10-2014 08:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigjosh006 (Post 10478412)
I'm pretty sure Dorsey wants to keep his job for more than 4 years right?

No you're right though sign Albert for 10 mil and watch Justin Houston go to ****ing Oakland next year. Then you would be crying about that right?

Like I said, I'd rather have berry and Houston here for the next 6 years than Branden ****ing albert

Totally agree. Albert is nothing special.

Hammock Parties 03-10-2014 08:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Laz (Post 10478456)
there is reality for ya .. don't care, don't know ... just wave your magic wand and sign him.


stupid bitch


either pay 10 million per,trade him last year or let him walk

those are your 3 choices

Good teams get this shit done all the time.

Not the Cheaps though.

Mr. Laz 03-10-2014 08:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Douche Baggins (Post 10478458)
Good teams get this shit done all the time.

Not the Cheaps though.

we didn't get it done for that last 3 year because Albert wanted 10 million per

Pioli didn't think he was worth it
Dorsey didn't think he was worth it
other teams didn't want to trade for him unless we 'gave' him away

There is no magic bullshit, pay him or move on

RINGLEADER 03-10-2014 08:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hoover (Post 10478198)
Some of you guys are just so damn depressing.

I for one am glad we are not resigning all these guys. Giving guys like Albert, Asamoah, and McCluster the contracts they are going to land leads to one place - salary cap hell. Let them walk and trust your scouts and general manager.

I have no doubt we can find a LG.

I have no doubt we can find a PR/WR.

I worry about FS.

Pretty much how I feel. I would really like to see them re-sign Schwartz but the rest of them are really replaceable and/or not affordable. If only we could find a way to bring in Byrd...

htismaqe 03-10-2014 08:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by -King- (Post 10478386)
As bad as drafting Fisher first overall was, I can't get around the idea of Albert making 10 mil a year.
Posted via Mobile Device

Agree.

We just can't afford that. It's not a smart move.

O.city 03-10-2014 08:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 10478521)
Agree.

We just can't afford that. It's not a smart move.

When the bill comes due to the butcher sometimes you gotta make tough decisions I guess.

Paying non elite players elite pay is never a great idea though

Rausch 03-10-2014 08:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 10478413)
Enjoy cheering on Chase Daniel ... ... ...

Because I wanted him here or agreed with the move?...

Buzz 03-10-2014 08:43 PM

With his back issues that's a big risk...

Chiefs=Champions 03-10-2014 08:54 PM

I loved the albert pick and always thought he would be a terrific LT. He became an upper tier LT imo and an extremely good locker room presence. However, we now have two players that can step in and replace him, it would be silly to keep him. I wish him the best.

'Hamas' Jenkins 03-10-2014 10:14 PM

If Fisher plays at the level Albert did, by the time his contract is up the going rate is going to be $15 for the same level of production.

mcaj22 03-10-2014 10:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 10479048)
If Fisher plays at the level Albert did, by the time his contract is up the going rate is going to be $15 for the same level of production.

well good thing we wont have to worry about that

Rausch 03-10-2014 10:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 10479048)
If Fisher plays at the level Albert did, by the time his contract is up the going rate is going to be $15 for the same level of production.

If Fisher can up his game to that level no one will care...

-King- 03-10-2014 11:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 10479048)
If Fisher plays at the level Albert did, by the time his contract is up the going rate is going to be $15 for the same level of production.

But that's a dumb justification to overpay somebody.

Mr. Laz 03-10-2014 11:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by -King- (Post 10479153)
But that's a dumb justification to overpay somebody.

He doesn't care, he just wants to bitch about Albert and Fisher.


drafting to replace starters is pretty much what the draft is all about

people are just frustrated because offensive lineman are boring

Pasta Little Brioni 03-10-2014 11:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mcaj22 (Post 10479051)
well good thing we wont have to worry about that

You are one miserable dude.

'Hamas' Jenkins 03-10-2014 11:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by -King- (Post 10479153)
But that's a dumb justification to overpay somebody.

It's not overpaying him. With the increase in cap $ coming over the next three years, those numbers are going to look like a bargain in comparison.

And Laz is a stupid ****.

RealSNR 03-10-2014 11:26 PM

There were moments throughout the year that made me pine for Barry Richardson as our starting RT.

Mr. Laz 03-10-2014 11:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 10479186)
It's not overpaying him. With the increase in cap $ coming over the next three years, those numbers are going to look like a bargain in comparison.

And Laz is a stupid ****.

truth hurts, ****face


If Fisher succeed at LT then you can't bitch about it much. That would make you sad because you enjoy being a dick more than you care about the Chiefs being successful.

BigMeatballDave 03-10-2014 11:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mcaj22 (Post 10479051)
well good thing we wont have to worry about that

Wash the sand out.

If you are really this ****ing miserable, why even bother being a fan?

Seriously. Just walk away.

Mr. Laz 03-10-2014 11:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SNR (Post 10479199)
There were moments throughout the year that made me pine for Barry Richardson as our starting RT.

that's just beyond silly

both Stephenson and Fisher are both miles better than Richardson ever was

DaWolf 03-10-2014 11:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 10479048)
If Fisher plays at the level Albert did, by the time his contract is up the going rate is going to be $15 for the same level of production.

Cap will be $200 mil by then...

Rausch 03-10-2014 11:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Laz (Post 10479207)
that's just beyond silly

both Stephenson and Fisher are both miles better than Richardson ever was

His first 6 games Fisher was ****ing prison raped...

Hammock Parties 03-10-2014 11:41 PM

Fisher was EXACTLY like Richardson, and in fact worse, last season, for all but a couple games.

tk13 03-10-2014 11:42 PM

Fisher physically has more talent and ability to play the position than Albert. Doesn't mean he will ultimately play as well. But this was inevitable. We have two tackles who have the potential to play the position well and not a lot of cap space.

Saccopoo 03-10-2014 11:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SNR (Post 10478327)
I'd rather pay money than spend the 1.1 pick on a player to replace him who isn't even as good.

Fortunately for the Chiefs, that didn't happen.

And next year, we'll have two tackles that will be better than Albert was at LT and aren't going to have to fork over 10 million a year to watch him kill drives with dumbass penalties, let outside speed rushers work him over because he has absolutely zero kick step, see him hobble off the field four times every game and watch him flounder on the ground about every third snap after he over extends himself.

He is quite limited in terms of his technical abilities at the position and has based whatever he's shown on the field due his athletic ability for his size. However, at 30 with a reoccurring back problem, those athletic abilities become less and less impactful.

And the facts are, the guy had one good season, one mediocre season and the rest were absolute dog shit.

You don't pay 10 million a year for that unless you are absolutely desperate - much like the Dolphins are at this point.

Both Stephenson and Fisher have much better upside. Much.


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