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OldSchool 03-10-2014 08:41 PM

1st round Mock (Pre-FA)
 
01. Houston Texans : Jadeveon Clowney, DE
02. St. Louis Rams : Greg Robinson, OT
03. Jacksonville Jaguars : Sammy Watkins, WR
04. Cleveland Browns : Khalil Mack, OLB/DE
05. Oakland Raiders : Teddy Bridgewater, QB
06. Atlanta Falcons : Jake Matthews, OT
07. Tampa Bay Buccaneers : Johnny Manziel, QB
08. Minnesota Vikings : Blake Bortles, QB
09. Buffalo Bills : Ha Ha Clinton-Dix, FS
10. Detroit Lions : Justin Gilbert, CB
11. Tennessee Titans : Anthony Barr, OLB/DE
12. New York Giants : Taylor Lewan, OT
13. St. Louis Rams : Mike Evans, WR
14. Chicago Bears : Timmy Jernigan, DT
15. Pittsburgh Steelers : Darqueze Dennard, CB
16. Dallas Cowboys : Aaron Donald, DT
17. Baltimore Ravens : Marqise Lee, WR
18. New York Jets : Brandin Cooks, WR
19. Miami Dolphins : Zack Martin, OL
20. Arizona Cardinals : Dee Ford, OLB/DE
21. Green Bay Packers : Ra'Shede Hageman, DE/DT
22. Philadelphia Eagles : Calvin Pryor, S
23. Kansas City Chiefs : Eric Ebron, TE
24. Cincinnati Bengals : Kyle Fuller, CB
25. San Diego Chargers : Bradley Roby, CB
26. Cleveland Browns : Derek Carr, QB
27. New Orleans Saints : Antonio Richardson, OT
28. Carolina Panthers : Odell Beckham Jr., WR
29. New England Patriots : Kony Ealy, DE
30. San Francisco 49ers : Kelvin Benjamin, WR
31. Denver Broncos : Jimmie Ward, S
32. Seattle Seahawks : Stephon Tuitt, DE/DT

Nickel D 03-10-2014 08:46 PM

TE Eric Ebron...

KC needs a tight end like Seattle needs a starting quarterback...so...

Say it with me:

"AIN'T GONNA HAPPEN!"

Hoover 03-10-2014 08:46 PM

It would be nice to draft a TE, but we will have other more important needs.

O.city 03-10-2014 08:46 PM

If it falls like that, you grab ebron or Beckham and move on

TimBone 03-10-2014 08:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nickel D (Post 10478592)
TE Eric Ebron...

KC needs a tight end like Seattle needs a starting quarterback...so...

Say it with me:

"AIN'T GONNA HAPPEN!"

We do need a TE.

htismaqe 03-10-2014 08:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nickel D (Post 10478592)
TE Eric Ebron...

KC needs a tight end like Seattle needs a starting quarterback...so...

Say it with me:

"AIN'T GONNA HAPPEN!"

If you don't think TE is a need for this offense, you haven't been paying attention.

Ebron has Tony Gonzales-like upside.

O.city 03-10-2014 08:48 PM

Let's not get carried away now, TG is the best te to play the game. That's pretty unattainable upside.

htismaqe 03-10-2014 08:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hoover (Post 10478597)
It would be nice to draft a TE, but we will have other more important needs.

No one player on that list, outside of maybe Ha HA, would have a bigger impact. Ebron would instantly be Smith's #1 target.

htismaqe 03-10-2014 08:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 10478603)
Let's not get carried away now, TG is the best te to play the game. That's pretty unattainable upside.

Doesn't matter if it's attainable or not, he has that kind of upside. He's arguably the best TE prospect in a decade...

planetdoc 03-10-2014 08:48 PM

no complaints, though I could see plenty of teems offering the chiefs nice draft picks if Ebron was sitting at 23.

O.city 03-10-2014 08:49 PM

Ebron has a shit ton of athletic ability but the drops are kind of scary. If we are desperate for a Te, I'd rather trade back and take Amaro

The Franchise 03-10-2014 08:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 10478603)
Let's not get carried away now, TG is the best te to play the game. That's pretty unattainable upside.

Says the guy comparing players to JJ Watt.

O.city 03-10-2014 08:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 10478609)
Doesn't matter if it's attainable or not, he has that kind of upside. He's arguably the best TE prospect in a decade...

I'd say his upside is more Vernon Davis. I hate to give a guy the label of a first ballot HOFer type upside.

O.city 03-10-2014 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 10478622)
Says the guy comparing players to JJ Watt.

If Watt had been the player he has been for a decade, you'd have a point.

htismaqe 03-10-2014 08:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 10478618)
Ebron has a shit ton of athletic ability but the drops are kind of scary. If we are desperate for a Te, I'd rather trade back and take Amaro

I could deal with that as well.

O.city 03-10-2014 08:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 10478632)
I could deal with that as well.

In this draft class though, being as stacked as it is, I don't think teams will want to trade around much

htismaqe 03-10-2014 08:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 10478623)
I'd say his upside is more Vernon Davis. I hate to give a guy the label of a first ballot HOFer type upside.

I'm not suggesting he'll BE Tony Gonzales. I'm saying he could be. There's a big difference.

planetdoc 03-10-2014 08:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 10478609)
Doesn't matter if it's attainable or not, he has that kind of upside. He's arguably the best TE prospect in a decade...

Vernon Davis, Rob gronkowskiand, Jimmy Graham, Kellen Winslow say hi.

Rausch 03-10-2014 08:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 10478648)
I'm not suggesting he'll BE Tony Gonzales. I'm saying he could be. There's a big difference.

And it makes sense considering our offense/QB...

htismaqe 03-10-2014 08:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by planetdoc (Post 10478656)
Vernon Davis, Rob gronkowskiand, Jimmy Graham, Kellen Winslow say hi.

And many scouts will tell you he's a better prospect than all of those guys.

OldSchool 03-10-2014 08:59 PM

I could honestly see Ebron falling to us due to his concentration issues and teams will always value a top WR prospect over a good TE prospect. He's going to have the same issues as VD had with catching the ball early in his career, maybe not to that extent but the problem will likely be there early on. I think he has the will and the ability to improve on it and make his highlight reel grabs on a more consistent basis.

htismaqe 03-10-2014 08:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 10478664)
And it makes sense considering our offense/QB...

Yep. He'd instantly be the #1 offensive target (as would ASJ or Amaro for that matter).

htismaqe 03-10-2014 09:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OldSchool (Post 10478692)
I could honestly see Ebron falling to us due to his concentration issues and teams will always value a top WR prospect over a good TE prospect. He's going to have the same issues as VD had with catching the ball early in his career, maybe not to that extent but the problem will likely be there early on. I think he has the will and the ability to improve on it though.

The drops are the only thing that concerns me about Ebron. Everything else about him is elite.

O.city 03-10-2014 09:00 PM

Adding ebron and Sproles would certainly increase our firepower

Rausch 03-10-2014 09:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 10478693)
Yep. He'd instantly be the #1 offensive target (as would ASJ or Amaro for that matter).

I like going TE in the first. Looks like there are two good prospects and our QB is a huge between the hash marks guy. Yes, even more than most.

DTLB58 03-10-2014 09:02 PM

I'm betting Dorsey sticks with Kelce and takes a WR there. Or at this point an OL. :p

OldSchool 03-10-2014 09:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 10478698)
The drops are the only thing that concerns me about Ebron. Everything else about him is elite.

Thing is, there are a lot of players I would be happy with at 23 this year so I'm not sweating this draft in the 1st round cause, unless we pull something like drafting Yankey (yes, even me the "safe pick/OL lover" would be pissed at that), chances are it will probably be a prospect that I actually like.

Sorter 03-10-2014 09:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nickel D (Post 10478592)
TE Eric Ebron...

KC needs a tight end like Seattle needs a starting quarterback...so...

Say it with me:

"AIN'T GONNA HAPPEN!"

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htismaqe 03-10-2014 09:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DTLB58 (Post 10478721)
I'm betting Dorsey sticks with Kelce and takes a WR there. Or at this point an OL. :p

If I had to bet, I'd say they won't take a TE.

However, I think banking on Kelce is a bad idea. He's had micro fracture surgery which is always an iffy thing to come back from.

Ebron would be a big upgrade, even if Kelce was healthy.

htismaqe 03-10-2014 09:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OldSchool (Post 10478736)
Thing is, there are a lot of players I would be happy with at 23 this year so I'm not sweating this draft in the 1st round cause, unless we pull something like drafting Yankey (yes, even me the "safe pick/OL lover" would be pissed at that), chances are it will probably be a prospect that I actually like.

There's 2 or 3 WRs, 2 or 3 TEs, a couple of pass rushers, and a safety that I like.

I really don't want an offensive lineman. For once, I'd like to see them be creative at the position instead of throwing away draft value (I realize that it's only year 2 for Dorsey and Reid but as fans, we can't just act like the years before them never happened).

O.city 03-10-2014 09:06 PM

Even if kelce comes back and wrecks shit, who cares?


People act as if you can't have multiple good/great players at the same position.

If some player has elite upside when you pick, seems pretty easy to me

O.city 03-10-2014 09:08 PM

Thing with wr is, what's the difference in say Beckham ( who I love) and Josh Huff? If they like Jenkins like they're saying, seems wr isn't of high priority

OldSchool 03-10-2014 09:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 10478752)
Even if kelce comes back and wrecks shit, who cares?


People act as if you can't have multiple good/great players at the same position.

If some player has elite upside when you pick, seems pretty easy to me

It all but guarantees Reid the ability to run his dynamic double TE set that he always tried to put together but failed doing in Philly.

htismaqe 03-10-2014 09:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 10478752)
Even if kelce comes back and wrecks shit, who cares?


People act as if you can't have multiple good/great players at the same position.

If some player has elite upside when you pick, seems pretty easy to me

Let's just say, for shit and giggles, that Ebron comes in and produces like Vernon Davis right off the bat.

And at the same time, Kelce lives up to the Gronk comparisons.

Who here WOULDN'T want Davis AND Gronk on the same team, with ALEX SMITH at QB?

Please raise your hand if you're against this so that OldSchool can come around and slap you up the side of your ****ing head.

O.city 03-10-2014 09:12 PM

It's the same reason i wouldn't be terribly upset with a 1 year prove it deal with what's his face from GB that ****ed up his neck (if they don't want to draft a te)

O.city 03-10-2014 09:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 10478776)
Let's just say, for shit and giggles, that Ebron comes in and produces like Vernon Davis right off the bat.

And at the same time, Kelce lives up to the Gronk comparisons.

Who here WOULDN'T want Davis AND Gronk on the same team, with ALEX SMITH at QB?

Please raise your hand if you're against this so that OldSchool can come around and slap you up the side of your ****ing head.

It's the same with any position.

Don't draft X because we have Y. There are a ton of ways to get everyone on the field at once. Be creative.

OldSchool 03-10-2014 09:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 10478784)
It's the same reason i wouldn't be terribly upset with a 1 year prove it deal with what's his face from GB that ****ed up his neck (if they don't want to draft a te)

I like Finley on the outside, I don't like him inside even when he was healthy. Packers fans hated him for his propensity to drop the ball and also the fact that he seemed scared to go across the middle. I don't see how that improves after suffering a neck injury.

O.city 03-10-2014 09:14 PM

He's essentially have to be a big wr who plays some te

Rausch 03-10-2014 09:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 10478776)
Let's just say, for shit and giggles, that Ebron comes in and produces like Vernon Davis right off the bat.

And at the same time, Kelce lives up to the Gronk comparisons.

Who here WOULDN'T want Davis AND Gronk on the same team, with ALEX SMITH at QB?

This.

RippedmyFlesh 03-10-2014 10:13 PM

In this scenario Beckham. Give Kelce at least a year before you draft another te.

RippedmyFlesh 03-10-2014 10:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OldSchool (Post 10478794)
I like Finley on the outside, I don't like him inside even when he was healthy. Packers fans hated him for his propensity to drop the ball and also the fact that he seemed scared to go across the middle. I don't see how that improves after suffering a neck injury.

I can't believe I agree with you on something. A wr in a te's body is how I think of him.The last thing we need is someone with hands issues.

mcaj22 03-10-2014 10:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 10478776)
Let's just say, for shit and giggles, that Ebron comes in and produces like Vernon Davis right off the bat.

And at the same time, Kelce lives up to the Gronk comparisons.

Who here WOULDN'T want Davis AND Gronk on the same team, with ALEX SMITH at QB?

Please raise your hand if you're against this so that OldSchool can come around and slap you up the side of your ****ing head.

I remember this convo the last four years

when Dexter McCluster was Wes Welker and Tyson Jackson was Richard Seymour and Glenn Dorsey was Warren Sapp and Jon Baldwin was Vincent Jackson. I remember that team.

hometeam 03-10-2014 10:21 PM

Ebron will never fall that far. If he does, we should take him.

htismaqe 03-10-2014 10:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mcaj22 (Post 10479065)
I remember this convo the last four years

when Dexter McCluster was Wes Welker and Tyson Jackson was Richard Seymour and Glenn Dorsey was Warren Sapp and Jon Baldwin was Vincent Jackson. I remember that team.

ROFL

It was a hypothetical. I don't have much faith that Kelce will ever be Gronk.

But Eric Ebron has a chance to be special. There's nothing "homer" about it.

OldSchool 03-10-2014 10:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hometeam (Post 10479071)
Ebron will never fall that far. If he does, we should take him.

It's entirely possible. Eifert posted similar numbers at the combine and had better hands than Ebron does, he didn't go until 21 in a draft that was significantly weaker in receiving options than this year is.

Jiu Jitsu Jon 03-10-2014 10:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OldSchool (Post 10478573)
01. Houston Texans : Jadeveon Clowney, DE
02. St. Louis Rams : Greg Robinson, OT
03. Jacksonville Jaguars : Sammy Watkins, WR
04. Cleveland Browns : Khalil Mack, OLB/DE
05. Oakland Raiders : Teddy Bridgewater, QB
06. Atlanta Falcons : Jake Matthews, OT
07. Tampa Bay Buccaneers : Johnny Manziel, QB
08. Minnesota Vikings : Blake Bortles, QB
09. Buffalo Bills : Ha Ha Clinton-Dix, FS
10. Detroit Lions : Justin Gilbert, CB
11. Tennessee Titans : Anthony Barr, OLB/DE
12. New York Giants : Taylor Lewan, OT
13. St. Louis Rams : Mike Evans, WR
14. Chicago Bears : Timmy Jernigan, DT
15. Pittsburgh Steelers : Darqueze Dennard, CB
16. Dallas Cowboys : Aaron Donald, DT
17. Baltimore Ravens : Marqise Lee, WR
18. New York Jets : Brandin Cooks, WR
19. Miami Dolphins : Zack Martin, OL
20. Arizona Cardinals : Dee Ford, OLB/DE
21. Green Bay Packers : Louis Nix, DT
22. Philadelphia Eagles : Ra'Shede Hageman, DE/DT
23. Kansas City Chiefs : Eric Ebron, TE
24. Cincinnati Bengals : Kyle Fuller, CB
25. San Diego Chargers : Bradley Roby, CB
26. Cleveland Browns : Derek Carr, QB
27. New Orleans Saints : Antonio Richardson, OT
28. Carolina Panthers : Odell Beckham Jr., WR
29. New England Patriots : Kony Ealy, DE
30. San Francisco 49ers : Kelvin Benjamin, WR
31. Denver Broncos : Jimmie Ward, S
32. Seattle Seahawks : Stephon Tuitt, DE/DT

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Pasta Little Brioni 03-10-2014 11:12 PM

Black bob's Top 32

Halfcan 03-11-2014 12:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 10478604)
No one player on that list, outside of maybe Ha HA, would have a bigger impact. Ebron would instantly be Smith's #1 target.

:clap:


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