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OrtonsPiercedTaint 03-11-2014 11:08 AM

Free market is great if your not queer

BlackHelicopters 03-11-2014 11:09 AM

Good news?

loochy 03-11-2014 11:10 AM

Why does he sell NBA jerseys?

http://www.xigawei.com/upfile/pladd/...ite-Jersey.jpg

houstonwhodat 03-11-2014 11:12 AM

GTFO

I hope he's a major bust.

loochy 03-11-2014 11:14 AM

it's a little known fact that houstonwhodat is actually a Prison Bitch mult.

Prison Bitch 03-11-2014 11:16 AM

I especially love the segment for "Youth" shirts. Gotta get the youth involved in this. I really want my 10 year old son to wear that rainbow shirt to school.

seaofred 03-11-2014 11:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OrtonsPiercedTaint (Post 10480062)
Free market is great if your not queer

I have no issue with him selling t-shirts. Am I going to buy one, no. When he doesn't get drafted until the 4th or 5th round, I hope the media doesn't say this is why.

htismaqe 03-11-2014 11:19 AM

So much for him not wanting to make a spectacle out of it.

OrtonsPiercedTaint 03-11-2014 11:19 AM

Media has got to have something to push to take a break from something else they're pushing

Prison Bitch 03-11-2014 11:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 10480102)
So much for him not wanting to make a spectacle out of it.

He just wants to be left alone.

OrtonsPiercedTaint 03-11-2014 11:30 AM

So he sucks dick. At least he doesn't use as an exuse not to be a man

nychief 03-11-2014 11:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 10480090)
I especially love the segment for "Youth" shirts. Gotta get the youth involved in this. I really want my 10 year old son to wear that rainbow shirt to school.

Yep....cause that would make him gay.

satOkoye 03-11-2014 11:34 AM

Any deals on ass-less chaps?

Prison Bitch 03-11-2014 11:55 AM

More NFL players should be like this and start thinking of a life after football.

Eleazar 03-11-2014 11:58 AM

The people who seem to care the most about Michael Sam's sexuality also seemed to care the most about whether Jack Harry called their team the Gayhawks. Interesting.

TEX 03-11-2014 12:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 10480102)
So much for him not wanting to make a spectacle out of it.

THIS X 10!
Nothing says FRAUD like saying you don't want to make a spectacle out of something then sell T-shirts about it. LMAO

dj56dt58 03-11-2014 12:03 PM

How can you stand with Sam when sams on his knees?

lewdog 03-11-2014 09:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by houstonwhodat (Post 10480075)
GTFO

I hope he's a major bust.

So racist and homophobic?

You're the people I hate the most.....Ignorant white people who live in the south.

cosmo20002 03-11-2014 09:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by houstonwhodat (Post 10480075)
GTFO

I hope he's a major bust.

Why?

I can't say I really care one way or another, although if he did well it would bother certain morons, so that's the only interest I have.

bowener 03-11-2014 09:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 10480090)
I especially love the segment for "Youth" shirts. Gotta get the youth involved in this. I really want my 10 year old son to wear that rainbow shirt to school.

Don't ****ing buy it then, twit.

Cephalic Trauma 03-11-2014 09:49 PM

What about the children?????

TEX 03-11-2014 09:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cosmo20002 (Post 10482484)
Why?

I can't say I really care one way or another, although if he did well it would bother certain morons, so that's the only interest I have.

Makes perfect sense. That makes you a fraud just like him.

TEX 03-11-2014 09:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bowener (Post 10482519)
Don't ****ing buy it then, twit.

Be sure you use that one across the board, dipshit.

Mr. Laz 03-11-2014 09:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by houstonwhodat (Post 10480075)
GTFO

I hope he's a major bust.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 10480090)
I especially love the segment for "Youth" shirts. Gotta get the youth involved in this. I really want my 10 year old son to wear that rainbow shirt to school.

At least the gay bashers don't try and hide it around here.

MTG#10 03-11-2014 09:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lewdog (Post 10482452)
So racist and homophobic?

No he's really not either one, he just says this stuff to piss everyone off.

bowener 03-11-2014 09:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TEX (Post 10482553)
Be sure you use that one across the board, dipshit.

What board? This board? I am missing your reference.

In58men 03-11-2014 09:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cephalic Trauma (Post 10482533)
What about the children?????

ROFL

Hammock Parties 03-11-2014 09:59 PM

Michael Spam

Jimmya 03-11-2014 09:59 PM

Crazy shit!

Bambi 03-11-2014 11:26 PM

Getting worse and worse for Mizzou.

{EDITED}

Um yeah, dick pics will get you banned. Please do not do that. Warning issued.

Bambi 03-11-2014 11:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 10480090)
I especially love the segment for "Youth" shirts. Gotta get the youth involved in this. I really want my 10 year old son to wear that rainbow shirt to school.

ROFL

RealSNR 03-11-2014 11:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 10480122)
He just wants to be left alone.

And that's why you don't care about this shit at all and just ignored it instead of posting a sarcastic thread on CP?

"Look, I've got no problems with gay people, okay? I just don't care about that stuff, so I'd appreciate it if people would quit drawing attention to it!"

Bambi 03-11-2014 11:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bambi (Post 10482899)
Getting worse and worse for Mizzou.

{EDITED}

Um yeah, dick pics will get you banned. Please do not do that. Warning issued.

Seriously??

Sam has made this about himself. Apologies for posting what he posts. But this is life.

RealSNR 03-11-2014 11:34 PM

Hey everyone! See that dude over there! He's gay and he's telling you he's gay! Well, I don't care that he's gay! Everyone should just shut up about being gay! Quit drawing attention to it! And ignore that gay dude over there who says he's gay! Tell your friends and family so they can ignore him too!

Bambi 03-11-2014 11:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SNR (Post 10482920)
Hey everyone! See that dude over there! He's gay and he's telling you he's gay! Well, I don't care that he's gay! Everyone should just shut up about being gay! Quit drawing attention to it! And ignore that gay dude over there who says he's gay! Tell your friends and family so they can ignore him too!

He's making T-Shirts. This is all mizzou and Michael Sam.

Thank God for Sheldon Richardson otherwise what a shit program in the pros.

RealSNR 03-11-2014 11:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bambi (Post 10482923)
He's making T-Shirts. This is all mizzou and Michael Sam.

Thank God for Sheldon Richardson otherwise what a shit program in the pros.

Aldon Smith?

AustinChief 03-11-2014 11:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bambi (Post 10482918)
Seriously??

Sam has made this about himself. Apologies for posting what he posts. But this is life.

I get that but come on man, link to it or at least put it in SPOILERS with a warning.

Bambi 03-11-2014 11:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SNR (Post 10482929)
Aldon Smith?

Keep the guns away.

Bambi 03-11-2014 11:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AustinChief (Post 10482930)
I get that but come on man, link to it or at least put it in SPOILERS with a warning.

ok, I hear ya

AustinChief 03-11-2014 11:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bambi (Post 10482939)
ok, I hear ya

cool. Carry on. :)

Cephalic Trauma 03-11-2014 11:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bambi (Post 10482918)
Seriously??

Sam has made this about himself. Apologies for posting what he posts. But this is life.

Just rolling out of your hiatus with some dick pics, brah?

Ease into it, know what I'm saying?

listopencil 03-11-2014 11:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by loochy (Post 10480068)

No, the Grizzlies are just gay. It's more of a warning label. I thought everybody knew that.

Gadzooks 03-12-2014 12:06 AM

The Raptors are gay too
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TribalElder 03-12-2014 05:43 AM

All proceeds will go towards the prison bitch sexual reorientation program

htismaqe 03-12-2014 06:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SNR (Post 10482920)
Hey everyone! See that dude over there! He's gay and he's telling you he's gay! Well, I don't care that he's gay! Everyone should just shut up about being gay! Quit drawing attention to it! And ignore that gay dude over there who says he's gay! Tell your friends and family so they can ignore him too!

Hey everyone! See that dude over there! He's a hypocrite and he's telling you he's a hypocrite! Well, I don't care that he's a hypocrite! Everyone should just shut up about being a hypocrite! Quit drawing attention to it! And ignore that hypocrite dude over there who says he's a hypocrite! Tell your friends and family so they can ignore him too!

loochy 03-12-2014 07:00 AM

The track and field community supports Sam

http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/...g_2299669e.jpg

WhiteWhale 03-12-2014 07:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 10480090)
I especially love the segment for "Youth" shirts. Gotta get the youth involved in this. I really want my 10 year old son to wear that rainbow shirt to school.

You must be damn glad you didn't get exposed to gay when you were a kid, or else you'd be a cock addict now.

JFC. If someone wants to make a line of clothes to support him, then they can. This is America. Don't like it, move to Russia where this is illegal. You'd be right at home with your hero Putin anyway.

htismaqe 03-12-2014 07:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WhiteWhale (Post 10483164)
You must be damn glad you didn't get exposed to gay when you were a kid, or else you'd be a cock addict now.

JFC. If someone wants to make a line of clothes to support him, then they can. This is America. Don't like it, move to Russia where this is illegal. You'd be right at home with your hero Putin anyway.

My problem isn't with Sam being gay.

Initially, I had a problem with the MEDIA.

Sam repeatedly said "I'm football player/I don't want this to be a distraction/I just wanted to get this out in the open and move on."

I actually thought it was GOOD of him to do that. It was the media that had to make it into something HE SAID he didn't want it to be.

And now he's doing this.

Obviously everything he said before was bullshit.

ThatRaceCardGuy 03-12-2014 07:40 AM

Why do you care?

BourbonMan 03-12-2014 07:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 10483169)
My problem isn't with Sam being gay.

Initially, I had a problem with the MEDIA.

Sam repeatedly said "I'm football player/I don't want this to be a distraction/I just wanted to get this out in the open and move on."

I actually thought it was GOOD of him to do that. It was the media that had to make it into something HE SAID he didn't want it to be.

And now he's doing this.

Obviously everything he said before was bullshit.

^^^
THIS!!

houstonwhodat 03-12-2014 07:43 AM

For the record.

I have no problem with gay people, black people, Asian people or any other kinds of people.

I DO have a problem with people who think they deserve some special recognition or accomplishment because the belong to a certain race or sexual orientation.

htismaqe 03-12-2014 07:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thatguy (Post 10483176)
Why do you care?

Because football should be about football. Not political agendas.

Reaper16 03-12-2014 08:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by houstonwhodat (Post 10483185)
For the record.

I have no problem with gay people, black people, Asian people or any other kinds of people.

Just because you lie about something "for the record" doesn't make it the truth.

Gravedigger 03-12-2014 08:07 AM

Gotta love making money off media hype. A tale as old as time.

Reaper16 03-12-2014 08:12 AM

This is actually a very similar problem to the one that made Sam decide to publicly come out in the first place: the desire to be in control of his image and narrative. See, there were already people/sites making Michael Sam merchandise w/o Sam's authorization, ostensibly out of demand.

What would you do in this situation? I mean, I realize that I'm asking way too much of you guys to be empathetic for two seconds of your lives, but really - what would you do if someone else was making money off of your name without your authorization? That capital rightly belongs to you, so shouldn't you go get it?

htismaqe 03-12-2014 08:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reaper16 (Post 10483244)
What would you do in this situation? I mean, I realize that I'm asking way too much of you guys to be empathetic for two seconds of your lives, but really - what would you do if someone else was making money off of your name without your authorization? That capital rightly belongs to you, so shouldn't you go get it?

He said he wanted it to be a non-issue.

Sue them and force them to stop. And then let it be a non-issue.

WhiteWhale 03-12-2014 08:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reaper16 (Post 10483244)
This is actually a very similar problem to the one that made Sam decide to publicly come out in the first place: the desire to be in control of his image and narrative. See, there were already people/sites making Michael Sam merchandise w/o Sam's authorization, ostensibly out of demand.

What would you do in this situation? I mean, I realize that I'm asking way too much of you guys to be empathetic for two seconds of your lives, but really - what would you do if someone else was making money off of your name without your authorization? That capital rightly belongs to you, so shouldn't you go get it?

What do you mean?

They don't care. They keep telling you they don't care. They express their outrage in every thread to signify their lack of cares. You're just not paying attention. Jeez. LMAO

htismaqe 03-12-2014 08:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WhiteWhale (Post 10483259)
What do you mean?

They don't care. They keep telling you they don't care. They express their outrage in every thread to signify their lack of cares. You're just not paying attention. Jeez. LMAO

If you're talking about me, I never said I don't care.

I do care.

I don't want football to be politicized like everything else in this country.

RealSNR 03-12-2014 08:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 10483084)
Hey everyone! See that dude over there! He's a hypocrite and he's telling you he's a hypocrite! Well, I don't care that he's a hypocrite! Everyone should just shut up about being a hypocrite! Quit drawing attention to it! And ignore that hypocrite dude over there who says he's a hypocrite! Tell your friends and family so they can ignore him too!

I see your point about Sam's comments when he came out to the media, but people like Prison Bitch can't claim to be wholly objective about how gay people should just keep their sexuality to themselves while they throw a hissy fit and start threads whenever the discussion is taking place.

In this case, it wasn't even a media report. It was the merchandise section of Sam's own personal website (which ALL athletes have). That's what Prison Bitch reported.

If Prison Bitch wants gay people to shut up about their sexuality, then doesn't it make sense for Prison Bitch to also shut up about gay people?

WhiteWhale 03-12-2014 08:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 10483254)
He said he wanted it to be a non-issue.

Sue them and force them to stop. And then let it be a non-issue.

I seriously could give a flying **** man. If people want to buy them, he should make shirts. This is america. Make every dime he can.

The reality is that now that he's openly gay people are going to get mad every time he's actually 'open' about it and subsequently will be all "you're ramming it down my throat!!" Ahem... no pun intended.

Reaper16 03-12-2014 08:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 10483254)
He said he wanted it to be a non-issue.

Sue them and force them to stop. And then let it be a non-issue.

A legitimate option, and perhaps the one that Sam should have taken.

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 10483263)

I don't want football to be politicized like everything else in this country.

It reads like by 'politicized' you mean 'makes me think about the various inequalities suffered by [insert lesser-privileged group here].' But football already is politicized in so many ways.

Jimmya 03-12-2014 08:26 AM

Gay

htismaqe 03-12-2014 08:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WhiteWhale (Post 10483271)
I seriously could give a flying **** man. If people want to buy them, he should make shirts. This is america. Make every dime he can.

The reality is that now that he's openly gay people are going to get mad every time he's actually 'open' about it and subsequently will be all "you're ramming it down my throat!!" Ahem... no pun intended.

I wouldn't have a problem with him profiting off of it either.

If he hadn't previously said he didn't want attention called to it and wanted to just concentrate on football.

I do think it's more than a coincidence that the shirts are really coming out now, after he found out he's probably a last day draft pick...

htismaqe 03-12-2014 08:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reaper16 (Post 10483275)
It reads like by 'politicized' you mean 'makes me think about the various inequalities suffered by [insert lesser-privileged group here].' But football already is politicized in so many ways.

When I tune in to NFLN on a February Tuesday, I want to hear about the upcoming combine and impending free agency moves.

I don't want 12-plus hours of "real American hero".

WhiteWhale 03-12-2014 08:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reaper16 (Post 10483275)
A legitimate option, and perhaps the one that Sam should have taken.



It reads like by 'politicized' you mean 'makes me think about the various inequalities suffered by [insert lesser-privileged group here].' But football already is politicized in so many ways.

I think Sam was fine doing what he did.

I'd rather make money (selling shirts) than spending it (on lawyers), plus the legal issues are probably more of a distraction than a guy needs when he's preparing to enter the NFL.

houstonwhodat 03-12-2014 08:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 10483279)
I wouldn't have a problem with him profiting off of it either.

If he hadn't previously said he didn't want attention called to it and wanted to just concentrate on football.

I do think it's more than a coincidence that the shirts are really coming out now, after he found out he's probably a last day draft pick...

Anyone who drafts this clown needs their head examined.

WhiteWhale 03-12-2014 08:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 10483279)
I wouldn't have a problem with him profiting off of it either.

If he hadn't previously said he didn't want attention called to it and wanted to just concentrate on football.

I do think it's more than a coincidence that the shirts are really coming out now, after he found out he's probably a last day draft pick...

When I take his whole situation into account, I just don't see what the problem is.

No matter what anyone wants (Including sam) the possibility of this being a 'non issue' is exactly zero percent. He may as well roll with it rather than allow himself to be distracted by it.

Canofbier 03-12-2014 08:36 AM

I don't understand how offering shirts on his website is "pushing his agenda". Chances are, the majority of people visiting that website are there because they are interested in his coming out.

My guess is that his publicist (or whoever the hell else manages his website - I guarantee that he doesn't do it himself) made the decision to create merchandise that most fit what the visitors of the site would be interested in buying. It's standard sales practice. No more, no less.

htismaqe 03-12-2014 08:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WhiteWhale (Post 10483289)
When I take his whole situation into account, I just don't see what the problem is.

No matter what anyone wants (Including sam) the possibility of this being a 'non issue' is exactly zero percent. He may as well roll with it rather than allow himself to be distracted by it.

I just wish he would have been honest from the get-go.

Reaper16 03-12-2014 08:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 10483283)
When I tune in to NFLN on a February Tuesday, I want to hear about the upcoming combine and impending free agency moves.

I don't want 12-plus hours of "real American hero".

You won't get 12-plus hours of this, even now in the midst of the story you don't get that much coverage. And once we, as a culture, move past this sort of thing being news you won't have to worry about non-football content like this on football programming. But we have to actually move past it first. This is the moving past it.

htismaqe 03-12-2014 08:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reaper16 (Post 10483349)
You won't get 12-plus hours of this, even now in the midst of the story you don't get that much coverage. And once we, as a culture, move past this sort of thing being news you won't have to worry about non-football content like this on football programming. But we have to actually move past it first. This is the moving past it.

I DID get 12-plus hours of it.

And we have entire cable networks dedicated to political grandstanding.

The country loves being polarized. This utopia where all move on doesn't exist.

RealSNR 03-12-2014 08:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 10483339)
I just wish he would have been honest from the get-go.

Just because he put up gay stuff in the merchandise section of his website he's not being honest about focusing on football?

He's not advertising. He's not speaking at gay rights functions. He didn't call up Time Magazine and tell them all about the gay shirts on his website. They've probably been there for weeks. Hell, the only reason we're even having this conversation is because Prison Bitch just plain doesn't care about sexuality and wishes everyone would keep it to him or herself!

Again, the hypocrisy in this thread is far more about people like Prison Bitch than it is about Michael Sam.

houstonwhodat 03-12-2014 08:54 AM

He's going to be a great role model for kids all over the country.

I can see it now.


kid: Dad, what is that rainbow shirt about?
dad: Son that shirt means they support Michael Sam.

kid: Dad, who is Michael Sam?
dad: Son he's the first openly gay player in the NFL.

kid: Dad, what does gay mean?
dad: Son that means he likes guys not girls.

kid: Dad, what does that mean?
dad: Son that means he has sex with guys.

kid: Dad, what does that mean?
dad: Son that means he likes to suck cock.

kid: Dad, what else does that mean?
dad: Son it means he also takes it up the ass.

kid: Dad, why does he do that?
dad: Son because he's gay.

kid: Dad is it OK if I suck cock?
dad: NO!

kid: But dad, the NFL says it's OK.
dad: NO!

kid: But dad why not?
dad: Go ask your mother.


This is gonna end well.

Xanathol 03-12-2014 08:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lewdog (Post 10482452)
homophobic

Thread tangent / pet peeve. Why the hell do pro-gay people have such a hard ****ing time understanding what a damned phobia is? FFS, a phobia is a fear of something - just because you don't support something or don't like it doesn't mean you fear it. Every time someone responds with a misplaced 'homophobic', they should have 'dumbass' tattooed across their forehead.

RealSNR 03-12-2014 08:56 AM

Aaaaaaand there's the other reason why the country isn't ready to "just move past this issue."

Because ****ing reeruns like houstonwhodat still exist by the ****ing millions.

Carlota69 03-12-2014 08:56 AM

OMG you guys are ****ing obessessed with The GAYS. I wouldn't of even known this was happening if Prison Bitch hadn't been the one to bring it to light.

And maybe just maybe, The Sam camp knew someone was going to do something similar and was being proactive or reactive and taking charge of his narrative, which he has a right to. I still dont see him on every TV station, magazine and Dr Phil show talking about his GAYNESS. So maybe he wasnt lying.

IT ****ING TSHIRTS FOR CRYING OUT LOUD Get over yourselves. He has a right. My god you guys are the ones making a big deal out of this. Just ****ing stop. Seriously, you guys talk more about being gay then gays do. JFC.:rolleyes:

WhiteWhale 03-12-2014 08:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 10483339)
I just wish he would have been honest from the get-go.

I don't think he was being dishonest.

I think he was being idealistic and naive though in thinking there was any possibility of this being a 'non issue'. People clearly care about it. A LOT!

Not just people who support him either. Seems those who 'don't care' care more than anyone.

WhiteWhale 03-12-2014 08:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Carlota69 (Post 10483370)
OMG you guys are ****ing obessessed with The GAYS. I wouldn't of even known this was happening if Prison Bitch hadn't been the one to bring it to light.

And maybe just maybe, The Sam camp knew someone was going to do something similar and was being proactive or reactive and taking charge of his narrative, which he has a right to. I still dont see him on every TV station, magazine and Dr Phil show talking about his GAYNESS. So maybe he wasnt lying.

IT ****ING TSHIRTS FOR CRYING OUT LOUD Get over yourselves. He has a right. My god you guys are the ones making a big deal out of this. Just ****ing stop. Seriously, you guys talk more about being gay then gays do. JFC.:rolleyes:

Haha... well I was trying to be tactful with my comments, but yeah... pretty much this.

htismaqe 03-12-2014 08:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WhiteWhale (Post 10483374)
I don't think he was being dishonest.

I think he was being idealistic and naive though in thinking there was any possibility of this being a 'non issue'. People clearly care about it. A LOT!

Not just people who support him either. Seems those who 'don't care' care more than anyone.

That's fair.


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