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CaliforniaChief 05-05-2014 10:25 AM

Rap Sheet: Talks With Alex Smith Not Progressing Well
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Team that will consider a 1st-round QB: The <a href="https://twitter.com/search?q=%23Chiefs&amp;src=hash">#Chiefs</a>. Negotiations with Alex Smith aren’t progressing well. Must keep long-term options open</p>&mdash; Ian Rapoport (@RapSheet) <a href="https://twitter.com/RapSheet/statuses/463351444876587008">May 5, 2014</a></blockquote>
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Mr_Tomahawk 05-05-2014 10:27 AM

BRAY

loochy 05-05-2014 10:29 AM

LMAO @ the meltdown if they can't get a deal done

RealSNR 05-05-2014 10:29 AM

Alex can go **** himself

rico 05-05-2014 10:29 AM

YES!

Sure-Oz 05-05-2014 10:29 AM

Lol...they'll re-sign him

RealSNR 05-05-2014 10:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by loochy (Post 10602982)
LMAO @ the meltdown if they can't get a deal done

I'll actually be pretty satisfied if it means we get our own ****ing QB in town

loochy 05-05-2014 10:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SNR (Post 10602986)
I'll actually be pretty satisfied if it means we get our own ****ing QB in town

yeah, but imagine the other half of CP that worships the dude

rico 05-05-2014 10:32 AM

Is this speculation on Rapoport's part, or do you think he has heard from sources that we are actually considering drafting a QB early?

rico 05-05-2014 10:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by loochy (Post 10602989)
yeah, but imagine the other half of CP that worships the dude

And half of those people being people who didn't like him until the playoff game.

the Talking Can 05-05-2014 10:33 AM

they traded 2 seconds for a guy they don't want to pay like a top QB


genious

CaliforniaChief 05-05-2014 10:35 AM

My guess is that one of the teams ahead of KC in the draft order wants to push teams to trade up to their spot.

It's prime lying time. I just thought the tweet was interesting.

KCUnited 05-05-2014 10:35 AM

He was probably willing to take a team friendly deal until he read the Fisher to LT and Rishart (sp) Johnson to RG articles.

Fish 05-05-2014 10:37 AM

Alex Smiff sucks.

Dunerdr 05-05-2014 10:37 AM

Nothing should be taken serious right now it's all smoke screens.

rico 05-05-2014 10:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the Talking Can (Post 10602996)
they traded 2 seconds for a guy they don't want to pay like a top QB


genious

Maybe they were just THAT desperate to stop the bleeding from the Cassel era, put butts back in the seats and rejuvenate the fan base for a couple years...and the years following with a long-awaited 1st round, long-term, home-grown QB...

RealSNR 05-05-2014 10:37 AM

Really, given the option of replacing Alex after two seasons in KC and just extending him to a fair deal that doesn't break the bank, I'd like to see us extend him.

But if that mother****er wants to get overpaid, he can eat a bowl of cum and make sad puppy faces.

He's now on the north side of 30, and he's had a few concussions and a few other surgeries. Plus it's not like he... oh you know... won us a playoff game or anything.

We got him out of that shithole in San Francisco and paired him up with a QB's dream coach. He owes US; we don't owe him shit**** other than a fair extension that doesn't break the bank for us.

If it's going to come down to an ugly standoff, then I sincerely invite him to go **** himself. I hope he leaves.

Mr. Laz 05-05-2014 10:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rico (Post 10603003)
Maybe they were just THAT desperate to stop the bleeding from the Cassel era, put butts back in the seats and rejuvenate the fan base for a couple years...and the years following with a long-awaited 1st round, long-term, home-grown QB...

seems like it

Clark Hunt told Reid and Dorsey that they could build the team as they wanted but that they must win last year.

now we are rebuilding

Dragonocho 05-05-2014 10:42 AM

Damn and the Browns locked up Tyler Thigpen already.

The Franchise 05-05-2014 10:43 AM

Evan Silva ‏@evansilva 7m

#Chiefs only have 1 pick in Top 85. My bet is they'll use that on an immediate starter rather than a QB, but *threatening* QB can't hurt.

The Franchise 05-05-2014 10:44 AM

Evan Silva ‏@evansilva 12m

The Alex Smith report reeks of #Chiefs trying to send that player's camp a message.

In58men 05-05-2014 10:45 AM

BEST NEWS EVER!!!!!!

hometeam 05-05-2014 10:47 AM

Its because he wants to get paid like a top QB. And chiefs want to pay him like he is who they thought he was. A middle of a road guy who has to have highly paid, highly skilled players around him to make shit happen. If we give him Jay Cutler money (aka stupid money) then we are ****ed on money even harder so there is no point. He (his agent) will have to be reasonable :/

Mr. Laz 05-05-2014 10:48 AM

If negotiations are going really bad we might grab a QB in the 1st.


Draft a QB, trade Smith?

Sure-Oz 05-05-2014 10:48 AM

@ChrisHansenNFL: #Chiefs plan at QB could look a lot like the #49ers plan when they had Smith.

In58men 05-05-2014 10:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hometeam (Post 10603020)
Its because he wants to get paid like a top QB. And chiefs want to pay him like he is who they thought he was. A middle of a road guy who has to have highly paid, highly skilled players around him to make shit happen. If we give him Jay Cutler money (aka stupid money) then we are ****ed on money even harder so there is no point. He (his agent) will have to be reasonable :/

Dorsey is probably looking at last seasons schedule and all the injured QB's we played against and said "does he deserve a big contract, lets wait".


Way to go Dorsey.

rico 05-05-2014 10:49 AM

If they go 1st round QB, I bet it's Murray or Carr....considering the availability of both.

Hammock Parties 05-05-2014 10:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SNR (Post 10603004)

We got him out of that shithole in San Francisco and paired him up with a QB's dream coach. He owes US; we don't owe him shit**** other than a fair extension that doesn't break the bank for us.

If it's going to come down to an ugly standoff, then I sincerely invite him to go **** himself. I hope he leaves.

http://i.imgur.com/n220KMl.jpg

Mother****erJones 05-05-2014 10:51 AM

Draft one if there's the right QB at 23

In58men 05-05-2014 10:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SNR (Post 10603004)
Really, given the option of replacing Alex after two seasons in KC and just extending him to a fair deal that doesn't break the bank, I'd like to see us extend him.

But if that mother****er wants to get overpaid, he can eat a bowl of cum and make sad puppy faces.

He's now on the north side of 30, and he's had a few concussions and a few other surgeries. Plus it's not like he... oh you know... won us a playoff game or anything.

We got him out of that shithole in San Francisco and paired him up with a QB's dream coach. He owes US; we don't owe him shit**** other than a fair extension that doesn't break the bank for us.

If it's going to come down to an ugly standoff, then I sincerely invite him to go **** himself. I hope he leaves.

Well you know I am going to agree with this.

Mr. Laz 05-05-2014 10:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rico (Post 10603027)
If they go 1st round QB, I bet it's Murray or Carr....considering the availability of both.

If they want Murray then they trade down out of the 1st.


Hearing rumors that Carr might be the 2nd QB taken.

RealSNR 05-05-2014 10:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rico (Post 10603027)
If they go 1st round QB, I bet it's Murray or Carr....considering the availability of both.

I'd rather have Murray.

I see no reason why the clapping ****face won't end up exactly like his brother in the NFL.

In58men 05-05-2014 10:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SNR (Post 10603035)
I'd rather have Murray.

I see no reason why the clapping ****face won't end up exactly like his brother in the NFL.


That's too high for Murray IMO.

Sure-Oz 05-05-2014 10:54 AM

@ChrisHansenNFL: #Chiefs clearly want someone to trade ahead of them for a QB so someone falls. Classic smoke.

rico 05-05-2014 10:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sure-Oz (Post 10603024)
@ChrisHansenNFL: #Chiefs plan at QB could look a lot like the #49ers plan when they had Smith.

https://forums.oneplus.net/attachments/borat-jpg.6363/

Chief Roundup 05-05-2014 10:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rico (Post 10603027)
If they go 1st round QB, I bet it's Murray or Carr....considering the availability of both.

Murray would be a huge reach. Now in the 3rd...

philfree 05-05-2014 11:00 AM

Wouldn't it be a huge reach to pick Murray in the 1st round?

Tom Condom is Smith's agent and living in KC and having played for KC always seems to want to put the screws to the Chiefs so I expect this to drag out.

rico 05-05-2014 11:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SNR (Post 10603035)
I'd rather have Murray.

I see no reason why the clapping ****face won't end up exactly like his brother in the NFL.

Oh, I agree. That's been the feeling I've had about him since I first learned David Carr had a brother....I just seem to keep hearing/reading that the Chiefs have been heavily linked to him.

I know Murray is projected to be a mid-round guy, but I would be ecstatic if we took him with our first pick and we let him sit and learn behind Smiff for a year, while we go into developmental mode and HOPEFULLY have a successful 2015 draft.

rico 05-05-2014 11:03 AM

Would it be a huge reach selecting Murray in the first round had he not torn his ACL? Until that point, the dude seemed to be a staple in the 1st round in 2014 mocks.

RealSNR 05-05-2014 11:04 AM

THE MOTHER****ER CLAPS FOR THE DAMN BALL

WHAT IN THE GODDAMN ****

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loochy 05-05-2014 11:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rico (Post 10603058)
Would it be a huge reach selecting Murray in the first round had he not torn his ACL? Until that point, the dude seemed to be a staple in the 1st round in 2014 mocks.

id take an ACLd QB over a concussed QB

rico 05-05-2014 11:07 AM

IF Carr was available and we selected him, I bet Smiff would begin to hate the entire Carr family, considering he tripped over his dick so badly vs. the Eagles in 2010 to the point where the 49ers fans began chanting, "WE WANT CARR! WE WANT CARR! WE WANT CARR!" (For those who don't know, David Carr was his backup in 2010).

The Franchise 05-05-2014 11:07 AM

Murray in the 3rd? Fine. Murray in the 1st? **** that.

rico 05-05-2014 11:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SNR (Post 10603059)
THE MOTHER****ER CLAPS FOR THE DAMN BALL

WHAT IN THE GODDAMN ****

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ROFL

loochy 05-05-2014 11:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SNR (Post 10603059)
THE MOTHER****ER CLAPS FOR THE DAMN BALL

WHAT IN THE GODDAMN ****

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meh

some stomp their foot, some say "omaha" a bunch of times, some clap

:shrug:

RealSNR 05-05-2014 11:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by loochy (Post 10603070)
meh

some stomp their foot, some say "omaha" a bunch of times, some clap

:shrug:

Yeah, some clap for the ball.

High school QBs and Derek Carr. That's it.

That shit is annoying.

The Franchise 05-05-2014 11:11 AM

I can't wait to watch this fan base freak out if we don't sign Smith and then draft a QB at 23.

rico 05-05-2014 11:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by loochy (Post 10603060)
id take an ACLd QB over a concussed QB

http://img4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb2...vis_uh-huh.jpg

"Hee-hee-hee-hee! Me too. Hee-hee-hee-hee!"

Eleazar 05-05-2014 11:14 AM

I think we should extend him for 3 years or so. I don't know about the dollars, but fair market for a top 3rd of the league QB won't be cheap.

I hope we extend him AND we draft a QB. Of course it would be irritating to hear Smith detractors turn into pimps for this other QB no matter who he is, but it would be good for the franchise I think.

rico 05-05-2014 11:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 10603073)
I can't wait to watch this fan base freak out if we don't sign Smith and then draft a QB at 23.

What side would you be on? The pro-Smith or the "finally, we drafted a 1st round QB for the first time since 1983" side? Well...I'm guessing it probably depends on the QB selected.

BigBeauford 05-05-2014 11:17 AM

This isn't true! Alex Smith just wanted a place where he could be the guy and loved by the fan base. I know he would definitely do a team friendly deal! /Alex Smith nuthuggers

RealSNR 05-05-2014 11:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cochise (Post 10603076)
I think we should extend him for 3 years or so. I don't know about the dollars, but fair market for a top 3rd of the league QB won't be cheap.

I hope we extend him AND we draft a QB. Of course it would be irritating to hear Smith detractors turn into pimps for this other QB no matter who he is, but it would be good for the franchise I think.

Sweet. Now I'm back into full Smith hate mode.

Go first round QB!

rico 05-05-2014 11:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SNR (Post 10603088)
Sweet. Now I'm back into full Smith hate mode.

Go first round QB!

http://endlesspicdump.com/original/t...20cheering.gif

The Franchise 05-05-2014 11:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rico (Post 10603078)
What side would you be on? The pro-Smith or the "finally, we drafted a 1st round QB for the first time since 1983" side? Well...I'm guessing it probably depends on the QB selected.

It depends. On one hand I'm pissed that we traded two 2nd round picks for 2 years of a QB who didn't win us shit. On the other hand....we finally drafted a QB of our own (depending on said QB). Bridgewater at #23? Sign me up.

Mr_Tomahawk 05-05-2014 11:26 AM

We aren't drafting a QB in the 1st after we just have up two 2nds for a one.

Jesus people.

saphojunkie 05-05-2014 11:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the Talking Can (Post 10602996)
they traded 2 seconds for a guy they don't want to pay like a top QB


genious

What exactly do you think the cost is for a 20 mil a year QB? Because it's a ****ton more than 2 second rounders.

keg in kc 05-05-2014 11:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the Talking Can (Post 10602996)
they traded 2 seconds for a guy they don't want to pay like a top QB


genious

I think I made an association a few years ago about how quarterbacks are like watches. The Chiefs want a Rolex in the worst way but they refuse to pay more than the cost of a Timex. And then they wonder why it never works out.

The strangest thing of all is how much more they value up-front money than draft picks, at least when it comes to throwing them away as a whim in trade. Or for linemen.

Eleazar 05-05-2014 11:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by saphojunkie (Post 10603110)
What exactly do you think the cost is for a 20 mil a year QB? Because it's a ****ton more than 2 second rounders.

Clark has plenty of money. He doesn't have plenty of draft picks.

Predarat 05-05-2014 11:35 AM

He wants Peyton Manning money when he is more of a Trent Dilfer +

The Franchise 05-05-2014 11:36 AM

At least Daniel would be gone if we did.

keg in kc 05-05-2014 11:36 AM

Oh, and I'm shocked! Shocked I tell you that they'd negotiate through the media!

Although I did expect more progress than this. I have a hunch they're trying to go well under market. We'll see what Condon's response to this is.

rico 05-05-2014 11:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 10603122)
At least Daniel would be gone if we did.

OMG, this.

Mr. Laz 05-05-2014 11:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr_Tomahawk (Post 10603105)
We aren't drafting a QB in the 1st after we just have up two 2nds for a one.

Jesus people.

so they will give Alex Smith whatever he wants?

BlackHelicopters 05-05-2014 11:37 AM

No way we draft a QB in the first

The Franchise 05-05-2014 11:40 AM

Awesome scenario.

Draft a QB at #23.
Flip Smith to a team on draft day for a 2nd round pick. Say the Browns for their 2nd....which allows them to go WR and defense with their two 1st round picks.


I'll stop dreaming now.

Mr_Tomahawk 05-05-2014 11:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Laz (Post 10603126)
so they will give Alex Smith whatever he wants?

I dont think Alex is THAT guy...I think he knows what he's worth. He isn't going to ask to be the highest paid QB in the league.

He has a year left on his current deal, and then we can franchise him the following season. He knows that, and knows he came off one of his better seasons and that if the doesnt take the money now, he risks injury or a drop in his performance which would be reflected in any other contract offered down the road by us, or any other team.

Alex Smith does not have the leverage in this scenario.

We aren't drafting a QB in the first. Guranteed.

rico 05-05-2014 11:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Laz (Post 10603126)
so they will give Alex Smith whatever he wants?

Especially when we are presumably going to have to be throwing a bunch of money to extend Houston, Berry, Poe, etc. in the near to semi-near future...

Marcellus 05-05-2014 11:44 AM

I bet this whole thing was made up just to see the reaction on CP for the next 4 days.

keg in kc 05-05-2014 11:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 10603129)
Awesome scenario.

Draft a QB at #23.
Flip Smith to a team on draft day for a 2nd round pick.


I'll stop dreaming now.

Yeah, a 2nd round pick for one year of Smith. There isn't another us out there dumb enough to do that.

R8RFAN 05-05-2014 11:45 AM

Smiff knows the Cheaps are Cheap

Just Passin' By 05-05-2014 11:45 AM

Days before the draft, a team hints it might take one of the 'falling' QBs in round one. It's almost as if the Chiefs are playing the same games that most of the other 31 teams do. :hmmm:

rico 05-05-2014 11:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by keg in kc (Post 10603137)
Yeah, a 2nd round pick for one year of Smith. There isn't another us out there dumb enough to do that.

Well... the Browns...maybe?

SeeingRed 05-05-2014 11:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 10603129)
Awesome scenario.

Draft a QB at #23.
Flip Smith to a team on draft day for a 2nd round pick. Say the Browns for their 2nd....which allows them to go WR and defense with their two 1st round picks.


I'll stop dreaming now.

Hmmm, ok. So then we draft a QB rd 1, a WR rd 2? Not so bad i guess. My issue is that Smith was one of the best players we had last year....and without question. No way this team is a playoff team then.

Lex Luthor 05-05-2014 11:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SNR (Post 10603004)
Really, given the option of replacing Alex after two seasons in KC and just extending him to a fair deal that doesn't break the bank, I'd like to see us extend him.

But if that mother****er wants to get overpaid, he can eat a bowl of cum and make sad puppy faces.

He's now on the north side of 30, and he's had a few concussions and a few other surgeries. Plus it's not like he... oh you know... won us a playoff game or anything.

We got him out of that shithole in San Francisco and paired him up with a QB's dream coach. He owes US; we don't owe him shit**** other than a fair extension that doesn't break the bank for us.

If it's going to come down to an ugly standoff, then I sincerely invite him to go **** himself. I hope he leaves.

I've always like Alex Smith, and I completely agree with this. If a QB is going to Flacco us, he needs to win a Super Bowl first.

Discuss Thrower 05-05-2014 11:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SeeingRed (Post 10603147)
Hmmm, ok. So then we draft a QB rd 1, a WR rd 2? Not so bad i guess. My issue is that Smith was one of the best players we had last year....and without question. No way this team is a playoff team then.

Chances are it isn't a playoff team with Alex this year anyway.

tk13 05-05-2014 11:52 AM

Since this is the Chiefs, watch us not sign him, then he goes out and plays like the playoff game all next season.

I think they'll get something done, but I don't think people give Dorsey and Reid enough credit. Neither one of them are Pioli. They both are from organizations that would let guys walk. I don't believe they'll treat him like Pioli did Cassel.

R8RFAN 05-05-2014 11:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brainiac (Post 10603148)
I've always like Alex Smith, and I completely agree with this. If a QB is going to Flacco us, he needs to win a Super Bowl first.

Jesus could not bring a SB to KC as the QB ROFL

ViperVisor 05-05-2014 11:54 AM

They don't want a contract before the draft.

They want teams to think they could go QB in the 1st.

That means if you want 1 of the QBs you trade ahead of KC. Ipso Facto another player that is not a QB falls into the pool of what is available.

keg in kc 05-05-2014 11:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ViperVisor (Post 10603162)
They don't want a contract before the draft.

They want teams to think they could go QB in the 1st.

That means if you want 1 of the QBs you trade ahead of KC. Ipso Facto another player that is not a QB falls into the pool of what is available.

Possible.

However, playing it that way may limit KC's own ability to move, which I would assume is something they're considering. Teams jumping over them are teams not trading with them.

loochy 05-05-2014 11:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 3rd&48ers (Post 10603158)
Jesus could not bring a SB to KC as the QB ROFL

That's because He's closer to a FB than a QB. He got kicked from the Broncos and Jets too.


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