Alex Smith: I don't think anyone is going to be too hard headed
 

Alex Smith says he hopes to remain with Chiefs
By RANDY COVITZ

John Sleezer/ The Kansas City Star
Chiefs quarterback Alex Smith has one year left on his contract, but wants to sign an extension with the team.
Chiefs quarterback Alex Smith still isn’t assured of what his future holds beyond the upcoming season.

But Smith, who has one year left on his contract, let it be known he wants to sign an extension and continue his career in Kansas City.

“I’d love to have it done,” Smith said in a phone interview on Thursday. “I love Kansas City, I love the coaching staff, the players … but when you’re talking about this many years and that type of deal, you want it done right. You want both sides happy, and you want it to be something that is going to last and you can play out. A lot of things go into it.

“With that, there’s still plenty of time. I still have a whole year left, and who knows what will happen?”

Smith said his representatives had discussions with Chiefs general manager John Dorsey until this month when the league goes dormant before camp, which starts for Chiefs quarterbacks and rookies Monday in St. Joseph.

“This time of year, the whole NFL is put on hold because this is the little time coaches and general managers have off, just like the rest of us,” said Smith, speaking from Lake Tahoe, Nev., where he is competing in the American Century Celebrity Golf Championship.

“We’ve continued talks, had open conversation, but no news to report.”

The Chiefs, with about $9.4 million of salary cap space available, are facing a dilemma with Smith, 30, and outside linebacker Justin Houston, 25, entering the final years of their contracts before they would become unrestricted free agents.

It’s possible they sign one of them to a long-term deal and use the franchise tag on the other next spring. This season, the franchise tender was $16.2 million for quarterbacks and $11.4 million for linebackers. Smith is due $7.5 million this year, while Houston, who would earn $1.4 million, did not report to the Chiefs’ voluntary off-season program or mandatory mini-camp.

The Chiefs cleared about $7.5 million in salary cap room that can be used to sign either Smith or Houston when they released cornerback Brandon Flowers last month, but Smith didn’t look at it that way.

“Someone told me that, and that’s not what I thought,” Smith said with a laugh. “I thought, ‘Oh man, we lost a good corner.’ I wasn’t thinking about it from a money perspective. Here’s a guy who has started virtually every game for us last year, so now we have to replace him.”

Smith, acquired from San Francisco in a March 2013 trade, was 11-4 as a starter for the Chiefs last season and the team to the playoffs a year after they went 2-14, tied for the worst record in the league.

He is 30-9-1 as a starter in the last three seasons, having led San Francisco to the NFC championship game in 2011 and helping the 49ers to the Super Bowl in 2012 before coming to Kansas City, where he established career bests with 308 completions, 508 attempts, 3,313 yards and 23 touchdowns with just seven interceptions.

Quarterbacks such as Tony Romo, Matthew Stafford and Jay Cutler, who are all in the $18 million-a-year range, don’t have near the track record as Smith.

“We’re getting pretty close to where I’m not thinking about any of that,” Smith said, “but certainly when you’re talking about comparables and what the marketplace is for a quarterback, certainly you’re looking at that, and I feel like my body of work of the last three, four years is right up there with a lot of those guys. No question, when you’re trying to put a value on something like that, you look at a lot of stuff.

“But real soon come Sunday, all that stuff is going to get turned off for me.”

Smith said it can be difficult to compartmentalize worrying about his contract and studying his playbook.

“When I talk to management, we talk about that, and that’s great, and then flush it, and we focus on football and doing what we have to do to help us win,” he said.

Smith said if a contract extension isn’t wrapped up by the start of the season, it doesn’t mean it can’t be done before next March.

“You’re talking about until next March when free agency would potentially start,” Smith said. “It’s a long time between now and then for something to get hashed out.

“Just knowing John (Dorsey) and (head coach) Andy (Reid) … they’re flexible and pragmatic guys,” Smith said. “I don’t think anyone is going to be too hard-headed, and we’re trying to get it done the best way we can"


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So he has one year left on his contract Randy?

Do you even read your shit before you send it?

TAG! You're it.

Bitch.

LOL at the (lazy) assertion that Alex Smith has a better track record than Tony Romo.

Alex Smith has played on better teams the past 3 years. Tony Romo has been the better QB.

If you want to debate it with Cutler or Stafford, OK. You can make arguments either way. I've never been a big believer in Stafford, and Cutler can't stay healthy.

Just beat me to It. That was my exact take away too, lol at Covitz. By te way nice job reading the article to dig that out since most posters read one paragraph then opine Smith sucks or is good.

“Someone told me that, and that’s not what I thought,” Smith said with a laugh. “I thought, ‘Oh man, we lost a good corner.’ I wasn’t thinking about it from a money perspective.

Yep sure Alex- nobody ever thinks about it for the money....well except the Chiefs.

Please don't pay this clown

I also enjoyed the assertion Alex Smith "Led" the 49ers to the NFC Championship game. Suuuuuuuuuuuuuure he did. In the same way that John Paxson led the Chicago Bulls to 2 NBA championships.

He had like six 4th quarter comebacks that year and is also the reason why they beat the Saints in the playoffs to get to the NFCC. Not quite the same as when Mark Sanchez "led" the Jets to the AFCC in back to back seasons.

You are off to a good start this morning. A bit chippy too.

Tony Romo is great as long as the game isn't on the line. He is the biggest choke artist in the NFL, and has lost a lot of games for the Cowboys with stupid mistakes under pressure at key points in the game. I'd take Alex Smith over him any day of the week.

Nothing like a good Alex Smith topic to bring out the snark.

This is common perception of Tony Romo, but it isn't factual. Romo has 11 4th quarter comebacks in the past three years and completes nearly 70 percent of his passes with a passer rating well over 100 in the 4th quarter.

Romo has been on shit teams. He's carried them to what they've been.

He isn't nearly as bad as the rep he gets, but he does seem to have bonehead plays at opportune times more so than the next guy. I think it's more so because e presses because those around him suck but that's debatable.

In any matter, using team wins and losses to justify or knock QB play is pretty unfair (for lack of better word).

It's hard to say. I think Smith in Reid's system is or potentially could be as good as Romo, but romo in a Reid system would be pretty awesome.

In regards to Romo, is it fair to say he wouldn't have to have all those comeback wins if he played better earlier? Chicken and egg I guess.

If Cutler stays healthy in that system with those weapons, he could be a top 5 passer this year.

I'd say he wouldn't have as many comeback wins if he played better earlier, but it's also a team game. An unreliable defense and not great team around him (weak OL, weak running game) contribute to the need for all those comebacks, too.

I don't think Romo is a superstar by any means, and he definitely has flaws. But to suggest Alex Smith is on a level that Romo doesn't "come near" as Randy Covitz did is just incredibly lazy, misinformed and stupid.

Sure.

But that works both ways. When the team around you is good, you probably don't have to try and gunsling like Romo does.

Iirc, smith had 6 comeback wins in the his last year as 9ers starter, with a much better team around him.

So I don't think it's necessarily fair to use the team argument for 1 and not the other, in these types of discussions.

But again, its what makes these discussions so tough.

A QB guru like Andy Reid apparently is, constantly pushes and wants Smith to be more aggressive, where Harbaugh was the opposite with his philosophy.

I think a good part o success depends on the player, but I think system and philosophy as well as the players match to that is becoming more and more important.

Yeah, I agree that you can apply some chicken and egg to any QB when it comes to 4th quarter stuff. And that Romo has helped dig some of the holes he had to dig out of.

The only reason it's either/or is because the Chiefs are cheap

Yep, you beat me to it. Deal is Romo's tendency to make a bone head play hides the facts.

Hope he doesn't sign anything and Chiefs keep options open for next year. I know it's just wishful thinking but damn wish Chiefs would draft a damn quarterback in the first round.

If no one was being hard-headed the deal would be done by now.

The 4th quarter comeback stat looks nice on the surface.....but when you actually look at the games and see that Alex Smith was completely ineffective for much of the game and then made one or two nice throws late in the game, you wont put much stock in the "comebacks."

Example: Bengals game. Alex dinked and dunked his way to about 150 yards through 3+ quarters of football and led the Niners to a grand total of THREE points. Multiple 3 and outs, terrible 3rd down conversion rate, etc. Then the Bengals went ahead by a FG with 9 minutes left. Alex got the ball back and was helped by chunk rushing plays and a HUGE Vernon Davis play where Alex checked down to him and Davis broke for 20+ yards. Then Kendall Hunter runs the ball in for the go ahead touchdown.

And THAT is one of the "comebacks" Alex was credited for. See my point?

And yes, Alex had a good game against the Saints in the playoffs. But won it by himself? Laughable comment. No QB in the history of football can be credited for "winning a game by himself" when said QB's defense forced FIVE turnovers that game.

Why? There's no rush to get a deal done from either side.
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Please don't bother posting again, thanks.

Alex Smith didn't lead his teams anywhere yet Kapernick, Wilson, etc....have all lead their teams to their wins.

And now Romo is a great QB even though in the end he loses as many games as he wins usually by turning the ball over.

This place never fails to deliver.

****ing kill yourself you one who sucks the penis.

support the QB of the Chiefs and your enemy #1?



You're a complete ****head, just die already.

Who brought Colin Kaerpernick or Russell Wilson into the equation? You.

While we're looking at Kaerpernick, though, look at the 49ers in the 2011 playoffs and the 2012 playoffs and tell me if you see a difference in the play of the QB and performance of the offense.

No one said Romo is great. Just that he is better than his rep - especially in clutch situations - and that Covitz's assertion that Smith was on a clear other level from him is patently ridiculous.

You understand the double standards. You do.

BTW Smith had the best single game QBR of any QB in the entire post season last year.

Yup. He played very well and pleasantly surprised his doubters.

This suggestion of Covitz's that Tony Romo doesn't have "near the track record of Smith's" is still patently ridiculous and lazy.

I think it was in reference to 30-9-1 the last 3 seasons.

Romo is a .500 QB largely because of timely turnovers and bad decisions.

Don't use the talent around him excuse either. He has played on some loaded teams and has the exact number of playoff wins Smith does.

Dear God, please don't extend him.

Really think the Chiefs should let this season play out. If he kicks ass against this schedule, then I'm on board.

Looking at that ESPN projected roster, if I'm Smith, I'd like to ink what's likely the last deal of my career before actually having to put the pads on and play behind that mess.

And using team record to judge a QB is stupid and lazy, no matter if it leaves a positive or negative impression.

This is from Bleacher Report, but the guy did the research on Romo's 4th quarter performance and I might as well let you read it from him:

LINK

I really don't like the way people judge individuals on team records

You should look up Vince Young's winning %

Not defending Romo's mistakes, but would never say he played on teams that were "stacked" like the 49ers have been

For the most part he has carried that team on his back

WTFE, they got Dez Bryant

Pretty sure San Fran's defense and running game trumps Dez Bryant

From a roster perspective the Cowboys have been mediocre at best for a while now
Their defense was terrible last year and will probably be worse this year

Sorry Wildcat, your humor meter must be broken

No doubt.

This line is shaping up to be a hot pile of garbage. At least he's got wheels, but I'd have to agree with you. Get your money before you take the beating.

Per Twitter

“@PFCentral: The Chiefs offered around $17 mil a year which has been turned down by Smith's agents. They argue the 30-9-1 record should get them more”

:old:

That worked out well.

This. Be incredibly hard-headed.

Then he can kindly go f*** himself.

Of course he isn't being self-centered and greedy

Did Smith's agent bring up his playoff record during negotiations?

Goodbye, sir.

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He just wants a team to want him, right? As long as they make a long commitment to him, he'll sign a below market-value deal...

That site is wrong a lot. FWIW

If my QB can't connect on a 20 yard fly pattern to an open Cyrus Gray going down the sideline to put the game out of reach then I'm not giving him 17 cents. That play and the playoff game was Smith's later part of his career in a nutshell. I'm not mad at him though, he is who he is. He's the ultimate game manager QB. He took that game manager roll and perfected it. He can't carry a team. The team is only going as far the team takes them, he's just along for the ride and his job is to not screw it up. He won't win games for us against top competition, we just have to hope the WHOLE team brings it more often than not.

That's because Dorsey has seen a great QB; drafted one. He's not paying a QB of Smith's caliber that much. He's like 30. He's not improving much.

I won't be satisfied we draft a 1st RD QB, regardless of the success we have leading up to it

/CP

Then let him go try and find that....

Notice what QBs not named Brees or Wilson have won superbowls lately?

But nobody is going to be hard-headed....

The flow is heavy in here.

Uh, that play was Cyrus Grays fault. He even admitted to slowing down.

Oh he did? That's news to me. Bastard Gray.

People tend to only hear what they want to hear.

I'm not Smith's biggest fan but he did play great against a swiss cheese defense. It's not his fault we played the Colts. I just don't think it's smart to extend a guy we could get for free. It's like being in purgatory. Although I'm sure no matter what at some point if we did extend him Dorsey/Reid will draft a legitimate replacement, not a piss in the wind pray he develops mid-round guy. Although we are due to hit a homerun at some point in the QB department you'd think lol.

Heres the thing. Romo is very talented, but he gives games away just as much as he carries them to wins. Hes a frustrating talent.

Alex Smith isnt as talented a passer, but he plays within the system and does not turn the ball over. Thats why hes been more successful of late rather than Romo.

Romo is basically a Jeff George. His box scores look good, but he takes too many risky throws and makes alot of mental mistakes.

Alot of Romos problems though are the Cowboys suck as an organization and dont develop talent very well. Not that I care....

Oh yea, Alex Smith beat Romo last year. : )

Romo has bad players around him? He has one of the League's best OLs now, a true star WR in Dez Bryant and has always had above average talent at every skill position to help him out on offense. He's a step above Stafford and Cutler but he makes the same team killing mistakes that they are prone to make. It's the reason why the Cowboys failed miserably with him even when they were actually one of the best teams in the league with Ware in his prime.

Smith will not get 17 mil per year from any team. He will sign with us for like 14 mill per year and that's fair.

Alex Smith has been more successful of late because he was paired with an elite defense in San Francisco and and a defense that played at an elite level for 2/3 of the season in KC.

Meanwhile, only two teams have given up 30+ points more often than the Cowboys the past three season.

This is exactly what I was talking about regarding the perception of Romo, though... the perception is that he blows it more often than he succeeds in close situations, but the numbers just don't back that up.

Romo has a higher efficiency rating and FEWER INTs in close games/4th quarter over the past 3 years than a long list of QBs who are viewed as clutch - or at least not as choke artists.

I thought Peyton was the biggest choke artist in the NFL. Now I'm so confused. :p

In all seriousness, Romo is flat inconsistent. I wouldn't want a QB like him that could kill me at any time and likely the worst time. I would actually take Alex over Romo, and it is not like I think Alex is a top QB. Yes, he is just a journeyman, a game manager, but he is consistent and he is not likely to throw the game away.

I would take Alex over Romo or Cutler. I'm not so sure about Stafford. I think the jury is out on him yet.

Yeah...that would be a great idea.

I hope we just let Smith walk after next year and go with Daniel, Bray and Murray.

I ****ing hate golf.

Yes. QBs with top rated Defenses.

Cutler, Stafford and Romo.

You are ****ing high or reeruned to think that there isn't a team out there that won't offer Smith the exact same money or more.

He's a much better quarterback than those piles of squirrel shit.

If KC thought the same way he'd be signed now.

Kansas City is going to be ****ed if they don't.

Some of this is true sure. Romo is the best thing about a mediocre organization.

The cowboys have failed Romo ultimately. Jerry jones is a shit GM and Garrett is a shit HC.

Again, they seemingly don't believe that with the price he's asking for.

All this from kaepernick
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So in summation, Smith's career in a nutshell, if one single play can be a nutshell [UrumphROMO!!], is a bunch of drive-by fans who misread a single play and demonize his entire past, present and future over said misreading.

Sounds about right.

FYP

Except the journeyman party.

"Any time you get an opportunity like that, you expect to hit it," Smith told reporters after the playoff defeat, per The Kansas City Star. "The tough part is all week we so many reps, (and) obviously with Jamaal (Charles) getting all of those, it's just something we have never repped with Cyrus."

Gray acknowledged that he momentarily slowed his stride on the route, but Smith told the room: "You've still got to hit it."