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BigRedChief 07-20-2014 09:20 AM

The annual "King of the N00bs" crowning has a new leader
 
It is time for someone else to take the annual "King of the n00bs" crowning and nomination to the next level. After 9 years, I've passed the leadership role to PGM. He will come up with a new format and process.

PGM has done a damn good job with the roasts. I'm sure he will knock this one out of the park


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The history up to this point:

2013 King of the N00bs poll:
http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=278344

2012 King of the N00bs poll:
http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=267334

2012 King of the N00bs nomination thread:
http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=267299

2011 King of the N00bs poll:
http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=253985

2011 Nomination thread:
http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=253839

2010 King of the n00bs poll:
http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=239639

2010 King of the n00bs discussion:
http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=239222

2009 King of the n00bs poll
http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=219232

2009 King of n00bs discussion
http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showt...ob+of+the+year

2008 King of the N00bs poll:
http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showt...ght=king+n00bs

2008 King of the N00bs discussion:
http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showt...ght=king+n00bs

2007 King of the n00bs poll
http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=177152

The 2007 n00b discussion:
http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?p=4471780#post4471780

The 2006 King of the N00bs poll:
http://chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=156488

The past honorees:

2013 King of the N00bs: Aussiechiefsfan
2012
King of the n00bs: Sorter
2011 King of the n00bs: BoneKrusher

2010 King of the n00bs: Shogun
2009 King of the n00bs: Bosschief
2008 No one was deemed worthy
2007 King of the n00bs: Crazy Coffey
2006 King of the n00bs: Bill Parcells, D2112, Griswald etc.
2005 King of the n00bs: Fax

Titty Meat 07-20-2014 09:25 AM

AussieChief turned out to be the eric fisher of the noobs does he even post anymore?

Bugeater 07-20-2014 09:31 AM

KotN jumped the shark when AussieChiefsfan was a finalist two years in a row.

Pasta Little Brioni 07-20-2014 09:32 AM

Timbone should a won last year

Bugeater 07-20-2014 09:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pasta Giant Meatball (Post 10755832)
Timbone should a won last year

Hell, put him in this year's poll, apparently you don't really have to be a n00b to win it.

TribalElder 07-20-2014 09:37 AM

LMAO


When does this event happen? December? Any front runners at the midway point?

Pasta Little Brioni 07-20-2014 09:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bacon Cheeseburger (Post 10755834)
Hell, put him in this year's poll, apparently you don't really have to be a n00b to win it.

Nah I am redoing things. Won't take place till January 2015 though. Only 14 join dates eligible.

rico 07-20-2014 09:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chocolate Hog (Post 10755824)
AussieChief turned out to be the eric fisher of the noobs does he even post anymore?

He's in rehab. He is fighting an excruciating battle with an addiction to reputation points.

TribalElder 07-20-2014 09:42 AM

Will there be a noob vs noob smaque off for the finals a la Jim Rome style ROFL

Bowser 07-20-2014 09:45 AM

http://courtneyinecuador.files.wordp...11/excited.gif

rico 07-20-2014 09:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TribalElder (Post 10755843)
Will there be a noob vs noob smaque'n off on tranny tits for the finals a la Jim Jones style ROFL

FYP

Coochie liquor 07-20-2014 09:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TribalElder (Post 10755843)
Will there be a noob vs noob smaque off for the finals a la Jim Rome style ROFL

We can only hope!

Pasta Little Brioni 07-20-2014 09:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TribalElder (Post 10755843)
Will there be a noob vs noob smaque off for the finals a la Jim Rome style ROFL

Buh gawd kang the finalists will face off in a....STEEL CAGE

In58men 07-20-2014 09:55 AM

Last I checked Sorter is still a bitch

wheeler08 07-20-2014 10:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chocolate Hog (Post 10755824)
AussieChief turned out to be the eric fisher of the noobs does he even post anymore?

I just PM talked to him yesterday. So at least he's still here

BigRedChief 07-20-2014 10:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pasta Giant Meatball (Post 10755832)
Timbone should a won last year

A word of caution. Any funny business outside of the announced rules can bite you in the ass. Some posters take this entertainment seriously. Your PM box will runneth over.

The format had become stale and needs to be redone. I'm sure you will come up with some kind unique and fun format. :thumb:

Bowser 07-20-2014 10:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 10755931)
A word of caution. Any funny business outside of the announced rules can bite you in the ass.

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-KnJTCz3gp_.../s1600/int.gif

TribalElder 07-20-2014 10:28 AM

Noob of the year playoff bracket smaque battle cage matches!

Rausch 07-20-2014 11:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Inmem58 (Post 10755864)
Last I checked Sorter is still a bitch

You better check yourself.

He's the sly juice here...

rico 07-20-2014 11:33 AM

So who are some of the n00bs this year who will be battling it out...?

Timbone should be eligible.

Same for Biggie Smokes.

Who else is there? confused? :)

bevischief 07-20-2014 11:48 AM

Bribes.

BigRedChief 07-20-2014 12:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 10756001)
You better check yourself.

He's the sly juice here...

Sorter got the better of him. He was a n00b back then and doesn't have the innate skills of Sorter. He may give Sorter a run for his money these days.

Sorter 07-20-2014 12:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 10756106)
Sorter got the better of him. He was a n00b back then and doesn't have the innate skills of Sorter. He may give Sorter a run for his money these days.

LMAO

crazycoffey 07-20-2014 01:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pasta Giant Meatball (Post 10755838)
Nah I am redoing things. Won't take place till January 2015 though. Only 14 join dates eligible.

So a late December join date with only a handful of posts to judge from?

TLO 07-20-2014 01:05 PM

I'm hiring lewdog to run my campaign.

In58men 07-20-2014 01:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sorter (Post 10756189)
LMAO

I'll bitch slap you in a rematch

In58men 07-20-2014 01:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 10756106)
Sorter got the better of him. He was a n00b back then and doesn't have the innate skills of Sorter. He may give Sorter a run for his money these days.

Real talk

bevischief 07-20-2014 01:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Inmem58 (Post 10756245)
Real talk

Shut up.

In58men 07-20-2014 01:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bevischief (Post 10756249)
Shut up.


No

lewdog 07-20-2014 01:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Big Smoke (Post 10756213)
I'm hiring lewdog to run my campaign.

Game on. I like you, unlike Inmem who I had to lie through my teeth about in the douche of the year award. Or wait, most of that douche stuff I said about him was pretty true.

TimBone 07-20-2014 01:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pasta Giant Meatball (Post 10755832)
Timbone should a won last year

Quote:

Originally Posted by rico (Post 10756051)
So who are some of the n00bs this year who will be battling it out...?

Timbone should be eligible.

Same for Biggie Smokes.

Who else is there? confused? :)

These guys. These are good guys

In58men 07-20-2014 01:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lewdog (Post 10756253)
Game on. I like you, unlike Inmem who I had to lie through my teeth about in the douche of the year award. Or wait, most of that douche stuff I said about him was pretty true.

You're soft bro.

TimBone 07-20-2014 01:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 10756106)
Sorter got the better of him. He was a n00b back then and doesn't have the innate skills of Sorter. He may give Sorter a run for his money these days.

http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/07/21/e5e7upud.jpg

lewdog 07-20-2014 01:50 PM

Wait, Big Smoke is 2012. How can he be in the running in 2014?

rico 07-20-2014 01:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 10755931)
A word of caution. Any funny business outside of the announced rules can bite you in the ass. Some posters take this entertainment seriously. Your PM box will runneth over.

The format had become stale and needs to be redone. I'm sure you will come up with some kind unique and fun format. :thumb:

Seriously? Some of the butt-hurt that you'll see in some of these contests are actually real? Honest question.

A couple days ago, the "King of the n00bs" stuff was brought up in the Top 101 Posters thread and I made a comment about how during my n00b year, I wasn't nominated or even mentioned...and followed this by posting 3 different "crying" gifs. I was being 100% sarcastic... I followed the n00b of the year thread during my n00b year, but I didn't actually give a shit that I was apparently invisible during that time.

Sometimes when it becomes clear to me that the butt-hurt and/or desire to win or be commended in some of these popularity contests is actually legit, it kind of prompts me to think a bit harder about who I am interfacing with on here.

TimBone 07-20-2014 01:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lewdog (Post 10756270)
Wait, Big Smoke is 2012. How can he be in the running in 2014?

Aussie joined in like 1996 and ran away with it last year.

lewdog 07-20-2014 01:55 PM

I got beat out by BoneKrusher because he made signature panels for everyone. He won it and has since disappeared.

lewdog 07-20-2014 01:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flybone McTimmerson (Post 10756274)
Aussie joined in like 1996 and ran away with it last year.

I haven't seen him around much lately either. Maybe he finally got a job?

Saccopoo 07-20-2014 01:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Big Smoke (Post 10756213)
I'm hiring lewdog to run my campaign.

July, 2012 join date.

I'm sorry your mom wouldn't let you use the keyboard until you were a sophomore in high school, but there should be no ****ing chance as a KOTN nominee.

rico 07-20-2014 01:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lewdog (Post 10756270)
Wait, Big Smoke is 2012. How can he be in the running in 2014?

I think it's because he is just recently becoming noticed. Just kind of now coming into his own. Kind of how Sorter was 2012 champ, although I think he registered around the same time we did (September 2011)...I could be wrong about that though. Sorter kind of sat back for a few months at first, I think... then when he started opening up a bit more, no one could give him the n00b treatment because he sat back and learned the ways of the board AND could back him self up with his extensive football knowledge.

You were real good with handling the n00b treatment as well. I used to get a kick out of it. You'd basically be like (in your own words), "**** off" whenever someone tried to come at you with the n00b shit.

rico 07-20-2014 02:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lewdog (Post 10756277)
I got beat out by BoneKrusher because he made signature panels for everyone. He won it and has since disappeared.

I remember that. He was another September 2011 registrant. Did he go back to that other board he used to part of with Boss Chief and Black Robert? What is it...the Coalition or something?

rico 07-20-2014 02:04 PM

Yeah, just checked Sorter's join date. September 2011 was the registration month of Lewdog, Sorter, BoneKrusher and myself... I wonder who else?

lewdog 07-20-2014 02:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rico (Post 10756288)
I remember that. He was another September 2011 registrant. Did he go back to that other board he used to part of with Boss Chief and Black Robert? What is it...the Coalition or something?

I don't give a **** what happened to him. Some chump with some above average Microsoft paint skills doesn't mean shit!

Bugeater 07-20-2014 02:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lewdog (Post 10756277)
I got beat out by BoneKrusher because he made signature panels for everyone. He won it and has since disappeared.

Looking back, I don't see how you lost that. 2011 was a horrible year for n00bs.

TimBone 07-20-2014 02:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rico (Post 10756283)
I think it's because he is just recently becoming noticed. Just kind of now coming into his own. Kind of how Sorter was 2012 champ, although I think he registered around the same time we did (September 2011)...I could be wrong about that though. Sorter kind of sat back for a few months at first, I think... then when he started opening up a bit more, no one could give him the n00b treatment because he sat back and learned the ways of the board AND could back him self up with his extensive football knowledge.

You were real good with handling the n00b treatment as well. I used to get a kick out of it. You'd basically be like (in your own words), "**** off" whenever someone tried to come at you with the n00b shit.

Sorter definitely understands message boards and has a calculated approach. I've noticed that.

Titty Meat 07-20-2014 02:08 PM

My vote is for Lewdogs wife who reads Chiefsplanet and uses CP lingo IRL

TimBone 07-20-2014 02:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rico (Post 10756288)
I remember that. He was another September 2011 registrant. Did he go back to that other board he used to part of with Boss Chief and Black Robert? What is it...the Coalition or something?

That place dead. I come from there too.

rockymtnchief 07-20-2014 02:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lewdog (Post 10756270)
Wait, Big Smoke is 2012. How can he be in the running in 2014?

He was redshirted due to a bruised labia.:evil:

lewdog 07-20-2014 02:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bacon Cheeseburger (Post 10756299)
Looking back, I don't see how you lost that. 2011 was a horrible year for n00bs.

Yea man. Shitty for sure. It still haunts me. Crushing defeat.

Quote:

Originally Posted by rockymtnchief (Post 10756307)
He was redshirted due to a bruised labia.:evil:

ROFL

rico 07-20-2014 02:22 PM

Just clicked on the "members list" tab and searched by join date. Along with me, Lewdog, Sorter and Bonekrusher, September 2011 also brought in Setsuna, tecumseh and Caseyguyrr. Saphojunkie joined just a couple days before September 2011.

That function is interesting. The first freaking member to join this board was user named "Broncos Fan" follow by htismaque. Of ALL freaking usernames...Broncos Fan was the first ever member of Chiefs planet. Unbelievable.

Bowser 07-20-2014 02:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rico (Post 10756317)
Just clicked on the "members list" tab and searched by join date. Along with me, Lewdog, Sorter and Bonekrusher, September 2011 also brought in Setsuna, tecumseh and Caseyguyrr. Saphojunkie joined just a couple days before September 2011.

That function is interesting. The first freaking member to join this board was user named "Broncos Fan" follow by htismaque. Of ALL freaking usernames...Broncos Fan was the first ever member of Chiefs planet. Unbelievable.

There is a "BroncoFan" that joined 8-17-2000. If you hover over a person's name, it shows you what number they are (I'm the 3527th member, you're the 17,000th+ member). He was like the twentieth member at CP. I couldn't find a "Broncos Fan" on the members list.

bevischief 07-20-2014 02:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rico (Post 10756317)
Just clicked on the "members list" tab and searched by join date. Along with me, Lewdog, Sorter and Bonekrusher, September 2011 also brought in Setsuna, tecumseh and Caseyguyrr. Saphojunkie joined just a couple days before September 2011.

That function is interesting. The first freaking member to join this board was user named "Broncos Fan" follow by htismaque. Of ALL freaking usernames...Broncos Fan was the first ever member of Chiefs planet. Unbelievable.

Wow... :clap: I think... Maybe...

rico 07-20-2014 02:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 10756325)
There is a "BroncoFan" that joined 8-17-2000. If you hover over a person's name, it shows you what number they are (I'm the 3527th member, you're the 17,000th+ member). He was like the twentieth member at CP. I couldn't find a "Broncos Fan" on the members list.

Yeah, it was BroncoFan, not Broncos Fan.

rico 07-20-2014 02:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 10756325)
There is a "BroncoFan" that joined 8-17-2000. If you hover over a person's name, it shows you what number they are (I'm the 3527th member, you're the 17,000th+ member). He was like the twentieth member at CP. I couldn't find a "Broncos Fan" on the members list.

Were there a bunch of people who joined on 8-17-2000 who deleted their account or something? Because it appears that there were only like 5 people who joined the first day (8-17-2000).

Bowser 07-20-2014 02:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rico (Post 10756339)
Were there a bunch of people who joined on 8-17-2000 who deleted their account or something? Because it appears that there were only like 5 people who joined the first day (8-17-2000).

Not for certain, but I think there might have been a reset or some such somewhere along the way, perhaps nuking a few accounts? Austin or DaFace would know more about that than me.

TimBone 07-20-2014 02:46 PM

BroncoFan should be banned strictly on principle.

TimBone 07-20-2014 02:47 PM

Also, I disagree that 2011 was a shitty noob year. If you get Rico, LewDog, and Sorter all in the same month, that's quite the take.

rico 07-20-2014 02:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 10756345)
Not for certain, but I think there might have been a reset or some such somewhere along the way, perhaps nuking a few accounts? Austin or DaFace would know more about that than me.

Interdasting.

TLO 07-20-2014 02:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Saccopoo (Post 10756280)
July, 2012 join date.

I'm sorry your mom wouldn't let you use the keyboard until you were a sophomore in high school, but there should be no ****ing chance as a KOTN nominee.

Who else are we going to have run then?

TLO 07-20-2014 02:52 PM

I'm calling you out Flybone. Let's settle this right here, right now!

rico 07-20-2014 02:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flybone McTimmerson (Post 10756347)
Also, I disagree that 2011 was a shitty noob year. If you get Rico, LewDog, and Sorter all in the same month, that's quite the take.

Thanks mang! :thumb:

rico 07-20-2014 02:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Big Smoke (Post 10756353)
I'm calling you out Flybone. Let's settle this right here, right now!

http://img1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb2...on_popcorn.gif

TimBone 07-20-2014 03:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Big Smoke (Post 10756353)
I'm calling you out Flybone. Let's settle this right here, right now!

http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/07/21/y9e6evur.jpg

rico 07-20-2014 03:16 PM

So who are the n00bs of 2008....I'm assuming someone has deemed themselves worthy since then...

Pasta Little Brioni 07-20-2014 03:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TribalElder (Post 10755940)
Noob of the year playoff bracket smaque battle cage matches!

The n00b Championship series

President of n00bs

Pasta Little Brioni 07-20-2014 03:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 10755931)
A word of caution. Any funny business outside of the announced rules can bite you in the ass. Some posters take this entertainment seriously. Your PM box will runneth over.

The format had become stale and needs to be redone. I'm sure you will come up with some kind unique and fun format. :thumb:

It will be a pure systwm

Pasta Little Brioni 07-20-2014 03:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lewdog (Post 10756270)
Wait, Big Smoke is 2012. How can he be in the running in 2014?

He's not

Pasta Little Brioni 07-20-2014 03:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Big Smoke (Post 10756349)
Who else are we going to have run then?

Actual n00bs. You have 11k posts ROFL....not eligible

Saccopoo 07-20-2014 03:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pasta Giant Meatball (Post 10756393)
Actual n00bs. You have 11k posts ROFL....not eligible

Reminds me of RaisedOnRiots.

That guy was more prolific than Issac Asimov.

BigRedChief 07-20-2014 03:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crazycoffey (Post 10756210)
So a late December join date with only a handful of posts to judge from?

It's whatever PGM decides. He has total autonomy. I think the "King of the N00bs" on here is a part of the Planet now. It has a lot of off season entertainment value. It does shine a spotlight on worthy n00bs. It just needs to be reformatted.

If after its all done and the n00b crowned. If the community likes the new format, it's his until he retires. If he ****s it up, we can give someone else a chance to do better the next year.

PGM has my trust that he will create his own entertaining fresh spin on how someone becomes the 10th King of the N00bs. We should trust him. He does have a good track record with the roasts.

rico 07-20-2014 03:54 PM

I think another couple of cool things to do would be :

1.) Best n00b year

and

2.) Top 50 CP Rivals/Spats...

BigRedChief 07-20-2014 03:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sorter (Post 10756189)
LMAO

okay, maybe that will be a stretch.:rolleyes:

TLO 07-20-2014 04:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pasta Giant Meatball (Post 10756393)
Actual n00bs. You have 11k posts ROFL....not eligible

Quantity over quality.

TLO 07-20-2014 04:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pasta Giant Meatball (Post 10756393)
Actual n00bs. You have 11k posts ROFL....not eligible

And again.... who wl be running? Jimmya? bsroyals54?

Some contest this will be!

TimBone 07-20-2014 04:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Big Smoke (Post 10756349)
Who else are we going to have run then?

There's some noob out there lurking and reading this right now, that will decide to create an account and make a name for themselves.

BigRedChief 07-20-2014 04:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rico (Post 10756273)
Seriously? Some of the butt-hurt that you'll see in some of these contests are actually real? Honest question..

Yes. When the contest starts its very real to some. They want it to be a fair contest. Their guy to win. People are just competitive, especially alpha males. We have a lot of those on here. I'm a competitive SOB. I can't play board games without trying to win. It never really bothered me after the first year. They were mainly great posters on here. They just hate losing like me. Doesn't matter if its real life or it matters, they just want to win and crush the other guy.
Quote:

Originally Posted by rico (Post 10756273)
A couple days ago, the "King of the n00bs" stuff was brought up in the Top 101 Posters thread and I made a comment about how during my n00b year, I wasn't nominated or even mentioned...and followed this by posting 3 different "crying" gifs.

Thats just the Planet. Breaking balls etc. maybe it was personal but I doubt it. It's kind of like publicly complaining about neg rep. People may agree with your point but your still a whiner, keep that shit private and BTW, shaddup.

BigRedChief 07-20-2014 04:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Big Smoke (Post 10756451)
I am butt hurt! I want to be in the ****ing contest.

http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instanc...x/34314504.jpg
http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/data:...XjXV1OXYf/2Q==

Rudy tossed tigger's salad 07-20-2014 04:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rico (Post 10756283)
I think it's because he is just recently becoming noticed. Just kind of now coming into his own. Kind of how Sorter was 2012 champ, although I think he registered around the same time we did (September 2011)...I could be wrong about that though. Sorter kind of sat back for a few months at first, I think... then when he started opening up a bit more, no one could give him the n00b treatment because he sat back and learned the ways of the board AND could back him self up with his extensive football knowledge.

You were real good with handling the n00b treatment as well. I used to get a kick out of it. You'd basically be like (in your own words), "**** off" whenever someone tried to come at you with the n00b shit.

Coming into his own = worthless thread after worthless thread

BigRedChief 07-20-2014 04:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Big Smoke (Post 10756465)
I am a homosexual, and I want to suck BRC's big red penis

http://www.forumspile.com/Gay-And_Communist.jpg

TimBone 07-20-2014 04:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rudy lost the toss (Post 10756469)
Coming into his own = worthless thread after worthless thread

Check the front page, bud. Most of the threads are worthless threads. It's the offseason, times are rough. Big Smoke has been good for some laughs recently. Cut the kid a break.


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