My 53-Man heading into Pre-Season Week 2
 

Quarterbacks

1. Alex Smith
2. Chase Daniel
3. Tyler Bray

Bubble: All not named Alex Smith. Tough call so far. I need to see more of Bray and Murray.

Running Backs

1. Jamaal Charles
2. Knile Davis
3. DeAnthony Thomas
4. Cyrus Gray

Bubble: Charcandrick West

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1. Anthony Sherman

Bubble: They aren't keeping more than one and Sherman is one of the best in the game...
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Wide Receivers

1. Dwayne Bowe
2. Donnie Avery
3. AJ Jenkins
4. Albert Wilson
5. Frankie Hammond Jr.

Bubble: Junior Hemingway

Tight Ends

1. Anthony Fasano
2. Travis Kelce
3. Demetrius Harris

Bubble: Richard Gordon

Offensive Line

1. Eric Fisher (OT)
2. Jeff Allen (OG)
3. Rodney Hudson (OC)
4. Zach Fulton (OG)
5. Donald Stephenson (OT)
6. Ryan McKee (OT)
7. Eric Kush (OC)
8. Rishaw Johnson (OG)
9. Ricky Henry (OG)

Bubble: David Harris (OT), J'Marcus Webb (OT), Jeff Linkebach (OG)


Defensive Ends

1. Mike DeVito
2. Allen Bailey
3. Mike Catapano
4. Jaye Howard

Bubble: Jermelle Cudjo
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Nose Tackles

1. Dontari Poe
2. Vance Walker

Bubble: Kyle Love

Outside Linebackers

1. Tamba Hali
2. Justin Houston
3. Dee Ford
4. Frank Zombo
5. Josh Martin
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Bubble: Devan Walker

Inside Linebackers

1. Derrick Johnson
2. Joe Mays
3. James-Michael Johnson
4. Josh Mauga

Bubble: Nico Johnson

Cornerbacks

1. Marcus Cooper
2. Sean Smith
3. Chris Owens
4. Phillip Gaines
5. Ron Parker

Bubble: DeMarcus Van Dyke, Vernon Kearney.

Safeties

1. Eric Berry
2. Husain Abdullah
3. Jerron McMillian
4. Malcolm Bronson
5. Daniel Sorensen

Bubble: Jonathan Amaya

Specialists

1. Dustin Colquitt
2. Ryan Succop
3. Thomas Gafford

Bubble: Cairo Santos

Practice Squad

1. Vernon Kearney - DB
2. Mark Harrison - WR
3. Laurent Duvernay-Tardiff - OT/G
4. Ben Gottschalk - OT/G/C
5. Charcandrick West - RB
6. Brandon Jones - DB
7. Alonzo Highsmith - LB
8. Kona Schwenke - DL

Cuts

David Harris - OT
Jeff Linkebach - OG
Junior Hemingway - WR
Nico Johnson - LB
J'Marcus Webb - OT
Dominique Hamilton - DL
Steve Gregory - S
Demarcus Van Dyke - CB
Joe McKnight - RB
Fred Williams - WR
Kyle Williams - WR
Jermelle Cudjo - DL
Darryl Surgent - WR
Weston Dressler - WR
Adam Schiltz - TE
Jerrell Jackson - WR
Justin Rogers - CB
Kevin Rutland - DB
Cairo Santos - K
Otis Hudson - OG
Jordan Campbell - FB
Deon Anthony - WR
Dezman - Moses - OLB - Cut 8/9
Kyle Love - DT
David Van Dyke - CB - Waived
Richard Gordon - TE

What I'm looking for Week 2...

Quarterbacks - The Chiefs need to give us a heavy dose of Tyler Bray and Aaron Murray. At some point KC has to see more of those two in game situations. They can't conceivably keep four quarterbacks with the way the roster sits. The Chiefs have to pick their best two backups and move along.

Running Backs - The Chiefs need to give D'Anthony Thomas a few more touches out of the backfield. They also need to give heavy doses to Cyrus Gray and Charcandrick West. The Chiefs will have to decide if they want to keep Gray, West, or neither.

Wide Receivers - The Chiefs need to showcase Junior Hemingway, Frankie Hammond Jr. A.J. Jenkins, and Albert Wilson. One of those 4 will not make this team, time to find out who it is. I don't see any other wideouts competing for slots 3-5 on the roster.

Tight Ends - I'd really like to see more from Demetrius Harris and Richard Gordon. A touch more form Kelce with the first team. I don't want to see Fasano, I know what he is.

Offensive Line - I'd like to see Ricky Henry at left guard with the first team. I want to see more from Rishaw Johnson and Ryan McKee. I'd really like to see McKee at both left and right tackle. I'd like to see Laurent Duvernay-Tardif at guard, I'm intrigued by him and wonder if he has any shot at making the 53. At this point I think I'm looking at a practice squad guy.

Defensive Line - I'd like to see Vance Walker at DE more. I want to see Kyle Love at NT. I want to see Jermelle Cudjo much more at both DE and NT.

Linebacker - I want to see alot of James-Michael Johnson and Josh Martin on the field. Both look like they could make this team. I wouldn't mind seeing Johnson with the #1 unit for a series.

Cornerback - Definitely want to see Phillip Gaines with Marcus Cooper on the number 1 unit, just to see if the two young guys can hack it together. DeMarcus Van Dyke and Vernon Kearney also need some serious field time. Someone needs to be the 5th corner and I have serious concerns about Ron Parker.

Safety - I think Malcolm Bronson and Jerron McMillian should log alot of snaps together. I'd love see each one get a series with the first team. After that, I want to get a good look at Sorensen.

Specialists - I'll be keeping a close eye on this Santos v. Succop battle. It Santos has looked pretty damned good so far and Succop costs enough for a kicker.

We're not cutting Nico Johnson.

They very well may do just that.

We probably are. James Michael Johnson has outplayed him so far and can cover the pass much better.

Who the hell is David Harris?

And where the hell is Ryan Harris?

Not bad Crow.

I think Murray makes it over Bray. He's smarter and is more in the mold of Smith and Daniel. He can run around and run that pistol better than Bray. I also think Bray is going to choke under pressure in the preseason against the twos.

I think Nico Johnson is a lock over Mauga. Nico is very very good on special teams.

I think Hemmingway makes it and Jenkins gets cut.

I also think McMillan goes to the practice squad and either Duvernay-Tardiff or Harrison make the 53. I think one of those guys could get picked up if they put them on the PS and aren't careful.

And we don't need to see DAT at RB.

I think they'll definitely be listing him there in 2014. Maybe in 2015 they will list him as a WR but not this year.

They can list him where ever the hell they want.

We just don't need to see him get snaps at RB.

I hear you but they will be putting him back there some this year. I would almost bet my left testicle on it. They will be getting him the ball in space any way they can. It's going to take an entire year to turn him into a straight up WR. That's a big transition.

will we get to carry an extra WR in week one in Bowe's absence. Have to come from PS?

We don't need to see him with carries.

Not between the tackles anyway.

Succop is a goner.

Would they be smart to IR Joe McKnight? Let him get that knee fully healed up and see what he can bring next year.

Wouldn't happen. If he feels he's healthy and they tried to IR him, they'd get in big trouble with the NFLPA. He's a year removed from his ACL so he shouldn't need IR and he's been in the league long enough that he wouldn't allow a team to stash him on IR if he feels like he can still play.

Good point.

He's on PUP now though, no? Could they use that as a springboard to IR? And he still gets paid if the team IRs him, correct?

McKnight intrigues me with his potential, especially in an Andy Reid offense. We're pretty good to go at RB, but it would kind of suck if he didn't get a shot with us (and maybe I'm just going full Mecca here, remembering his USC days...).

Perhaps. Nico Johnson is a player I'll have my eye on tomorrow night.

Really hoping to see a positive showing from the O-Line and WR's as well.

Yes you are. McKnight is worthless

No way they are cutting Hemingway.

I think Kyle Williams would make it over Wilson. Good value as ST/PR backup as well as slot duties on offense. My longshot hope is for Frankie Hammond to become a beast because he has pretty good measurables.

I'll say this: if we go a whole preseason without seeing Bray get to sling it once, I will become quite upset.

They gave him a whole quarter last week and squandered it by making him hand off the ball 80% of the time.

Warning to everyone in this thread, inccluding the OP: they're likely playing the 1s all 1st half, and 2s all 2nd.

You're not going to see a lot -- if any -- of Bray and Murray.

I don't think we see any Murray this prreseason. I'm guessing they are hiding him.

They'll probably mix it up with Daniel and Bray. Bray will at least get a shot against the 3s.

A figment of my imagination. Either way, the bitch sucks... a shade of what he looked like he'd become when he entered the league.

You don't want to see it, I want to see if the little **** can handle the NFL beatdown he'd get there. I hate gimmick players, so he better be dynamite on special teams.

The 3s will hardly play, is my point.

I haven't assigned Murray to the PS in this edition and I haven't cut him yet either... he's the one guy I left in limbo. All I know so far is that Daniel played fairly well in Week 1, Bray wasn't terrible, and we hardly saw Murray (concerning if he has a shot of being on the 53-man this year and not the PS).

I don't think Nico is a lock over anything. Mauga is outstanding on special teams, a big reason they signed the guy to begin with. I'm at 90% right now on Nico hitting the road, unless he shows more than he has over the next few weeks.

The whole Hemingway/Jenkins/Rest of the Shit heap competition is a big unknown to me. I haven't seen any single WR stand out at any point in a game situation that makes me say "wow!" I think Wilson looked ok. Other than that, your guess is as good as mine.

I think Tardiff is too raw to make the 53 this year, so far. Harrison's hammy problems aren't going to help him. McMillian is going to make this team for sure, at least with his performance thusfar.

Normal preseason protocol for the 2nd week is that the starters get all of the 1st quarter and a series or two in the 2nd quarter. They, likely, won't play the entire first half unless there are long, sustained drives.

The twos do get extensive work thereon after, but we should see the threes late in the game, or mixed in with the twos throughout the latter half of the 3rd and 4th quarter.

With the Chiefs situation in making a decision at QB, they might wait to let Bray and Murray play extensively in Week 4, that I would concede, but it would be nice to see both get some action this week because they aren't getting any in Week 3.

By the way, I do appreciate that someone else likes Ryan McKee.

I thought he looked pretty good so far. I'm not too high on his competition either. If I had to make the decision on a half-ass player versus a promising youngster, I'll take the promise.

Also, I'll update this roster each week to reflect my thoughts.

Yall are effed if Jenkins is third WR in depth chart.

Damn, that's some scary $hit seeing our Wr's and Secondary listed in print....YIKES!

No mention of Dressler ?

He's got some really good hands .

Maybe.

Of course, players can develop and become the players that some thought they could be when drafted, expecially one as young as Jenkins.

Or they can continue to be crap.

Either way,we are no worse off than we expected to be when the Chiefs failed to address the position in the offseason.

he also sucks

He can't get away from press.

Reid announced that they were playing the starters the entire first half of the 2cd preseason game.

This.

I'd guess it's starters entire first half, possibly Daniel mixed in. 2nd stringers 3rd quarter, with the rest playing in the 4th.

I'm confused. Didn't he look like shot in the first preseason game? Looked lost.

Listening to local radio coverage on Thursday and Friday, it doesn't sound like Hemingway is on the bubble at all, even missing camp with the hamstring.

Maybe, maybe not.

It may have only been on 8 catches, but he did average over 16ypc in his first year of this system... thats the definition of deep threat.

He just needs to become more consistent.

in before this devolves into a "Cut Daniels!1!!1" thread

He's probably now the most sure handed receiver on the team. His lack of speed annoys me though.

I didn't have the chance to rewatch game 1, perhaps I was mistaking someone else for him? He's looked good in camp. I'll watch again tonight.

There is that shot. I did say I'll update this as preseason evolves, and going off of what I saw so far Hemingway is on the bubble. If he performs well over the next couple weeks, then I'll reassess.

My first thought was you were confusing him with Malcolm Bronson.

@OP we sure as shit aren't going to cut Junior Hemingway lol.

Right now it'll be

1. Bowe
2. Avery (as much as it displeases me)
3. AJ Jenkins
4. Junior Hemingway
5. Albert Wilson.

I"m also pretty sure we will keep 6 receivers and that spot will be Frankie's, though he won't dress much. I don't think we will keep 5 safeties on the 53 man roster either. Probably Sorensens to lose or whatever that guy not named Bronson is lol.

Totally agree, but the black mamba will be the sixth wide receiver

Update after watching Week 2...

Quarterbacks

1. Alex Smith
2. Chase Daniel
3. Aaron Murray

Running Backs

4. Jamaal Charles
5. Knile Davis
6. Cyrus Gray
7. DeAnthony Thomas (flex WR/specialist)

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8. Anthony Sherman
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Wide Receivers

9. Dwayne Bowe
10. Donnie Avery
11. Frankie Hammond Jr.
12. Albert Wilson
13. AJ Jenkins (I flipped a coin for him or Hemingway... both have shown nothing to note)

Tight Ends

14. Travis Kelce
15. Anthony Fasano
16. Demetrius Harris

Offensive Line

17. Eric Fisher (OT)
18. Jeff Allen (OG)
19. Rodney Hudson (OC)
20. Zach Fulton (OG)
21. Donald Stephenson (OT)
22. Ricky Henry (OG)
23. Eric Kush (OC)
24. Jeff Linkebach (OG)
25. Ryan McKee (OT)

Defensive Ends

26. Mike DeVito
27. Allen Bailey
28. Mike Catapano
29. Jaye Howard
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Nose Tackles

30. Dontari Poe
31. Vance Walker

Outside Linebackers

32. Tamba Hali
33. Justin Houston
34. Dee Ford
35. Frank Zombo
36. Josh Martin

Inside Linebackers

37. Derrick Johnson
38. Joe Mays
39. James-Michael Johnson
40. Nico Johnson

Cornerbacks

41. Marcus Cooper
42. Sean Smith
43. Chris Owens
44. Phillip Gaines
45. DeMarcus Van Dyke

Safeties

46. Eric Berry
47. Husain Abdullah
48. Malcolm Bronson
49. Jerron McMillian
50. Daniel Sorensen

Specialists

51. Dustin Colquitt
52. Ryan Succop
53. Thomas Gafford

Practice Squad

1. Vernon Kearney - DB
2. Mark Harrison - WR
3. Laurent Duvernay-Tardiff - OT/G
4. Ben Gottschalk - OT/G/C
5. Charcandrick West - RB
6. Brandon Jones - DB
7. Alonzo Highsmith - LB
8. Kona Schwenke - DL

Cuts - Bubble

Ryan Harris - OT
Junior Hemingway - WR
Josh Mauga - LB
J'Marcus Webb - OT
Jermelle Cudjo - DL
Kyle Love - DT
Richard Gordon - TE
Ron Parker - CB
Rishaw Johnson - OG
Cairo Santos - K
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Cuts - Don't see how they'll make it...
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Dominique Hamilton - DL
Joe McKnight - RB
Fred Williams - WR
Kyle Williams - WR
Darryl Surgent - WR
Weston Dressler - WR
Adam Schiltz - TE
Jerrell Jackson - WR
Justin Rogers - CB
Kevin Rutland - DB
Otis Hudson - OG
Jordan Campbell - FB
Deon Anthony - WR
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They gone....
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Steve Gregory - S - Retired
Dezman Moses - OLB - Cut 8/9
David Van Dyke - CB - Waived

****ing 9 OL?

If Sorenson makes this roster...

:facepalm:

IMO, he's PS material right now. Way too weak in run support.

I have said since camp started but Jenkins ain't making this team. I'll eat crow if I'm wrong.

Also, Daniel is a lock. The competition is between Bray and Murray. That should be obvious to everyone after last night.

Most teams carry either 8 or 9. With all the problems KC is having at guard this year, I"m banking on them favoring 9, which is the NFL average.

Chiefs ideally will keep 5 safeties. I'm having trouble seeing who can beat Sorensen out for the 5th spot, and I'm no fan yet of Sorensen.... In fact, I'm not a fan of most of our DBs.

Unless someone steps up that hasn't yet, I think the only battle is between him and Hemingway for the 5th spot. The only thing I am convinced of so far is that both suck.

I don't see the point in keeping Daniel.

If Smith goes down, we are ****ed. Why not get a young pup in there to see what he has.

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I'd rather keep an extra WR who has shown promise than an extra DB who will always suck donkey balls.

Neither Jenkins nor Hemmingway have shown anything at all, let alone "promise".

Ideally, I agree. It doesn't seem the KC brass is trending that way however. Bray and Murray have both shown me enough to think they could both hold the clipboard as well as Daniel, and would combine to make less than Daniel.

Shit I'd rather convert one of those WR to DB. Can't be any worse.

Jenkins has some serious speed, maybe we should try it.

The knock on him is that he's soft. Not going to work.

I'd rather keep Van Dyke than have the 5th safety on the roster.

Agreed.

KC carried 3 RBs and 6 WRs last season. They carried 10 DBs. I see them going a similar route once again.

RB appears to have Charles, Davis and Gray with Thomas as a possible flex (WR primarily)

WR as Bowe, Avery, Thomas (flex RB), and what looks to be Hammond and Lewis to this point. Both Hammond and Lewis have shown me more promise than Jenkins and Hemingway. I'd have to say I might lean towards Hemingway if he could stay out of the tub, but neither have been much of anything.

As for the DBs, I look for KC to once again carry 5 CBs and 5 Safeties. That means the 5th safety spot almost has to go to Sorensen by default unless Amaya somehow steps up and amazes the next couple weeks. Obviously that kid from Georgia can't stay out of the tub. The CB situation is no less troubling, with little promise there. The defensive back situation is a huge mystery at this point.

If ya'll have better ideas on who makes it, rifle them out, its what I posted for


Edit. BTW I have Van Dyke on the 53 over Parker at this point, but if you think Parker would be a better keep than Sorensen, I'm all ears.

I wouldn't cut Sorenson, I think he's got good upside as a backup and ST ace.

Move Parker back to S. I'd keep K Williams over AJ Jenkins. I believe A Smith said something about the two of them having a connection

I might trend towards the Parker over Sorensen move, but Williams has been a non-factor thusfar.

Good news for us, bad for the Cards. Darnell Dockett is out for the season, should make it a lot easier for the right side of our line. We still have to deal with Campbell on the left though.

Thought Parker was a CB with us last season and not a FS or SS?

ROFL "Shown you enough?" This kind of stuff cracks me up. Your limited exposure isn't near enough to make a sound decision.

This is where I am with it. Add to it his price tag and it seems like a no-brainer.

I feel like there may be some castoffs from other teams who could start in this OL. They looked just plain awful.

I'm hoping for some vet cuts that don't have to go through the waiver wire.

Unfortunately it's getting a little late to bring in o-linemen. It takes a while to gel and we probably wouldn't get much better if any better at all at this point. If we are going to do it, we need to do it today. However I don't think Dorsey and Reid are that worried about it. If they are good 90% of the time, that will be enough imo. We have a mobile QB and a couple of HB/WR types. We throw a lot of quick passes to the backs. I might totally eat crow about this but I think we only need a C+ grade o-line to make the playoffs. Green Bay had some pretty mediocre o-lines while Dorsey was up there.

What's really going to hurt is that they're going to bring in a journeyman LEFT TACKLE to plug in so that Fisher can rest his shoulder.

And they're not going to sign anybody to address the interior line, WR, or DB. Nothing like spending limited resources to band aid a position you just addressed with the #1 overall pick.

Oh bullshit man... If Fisher can't play they will start Stephenson at LT. Stop with the conspiracy theories you Don Stephenson truther.

Just curious if you read the whole bit, because I'm quite sure I said they've shown me enough to hold a clip board as well as Daniel... ;)