What is the single biggest reason Chiefs have not won the SB
 

Just out of curiosity in Chiefsplanet opinion.

QB is the long term answer but if Marty would have been smart and started Gannon we would have won. That team had championship written a over it.

The Hunt Family

Options 3 and 4 are related to specific years.

QBs.

Can't have legitimate chance every year without one.

Ownership


It all starts there.

I actually think luck is one of the biggest reasons. I voted option 1, but I'm not sure that's the biggest reason. There are a lot of QBs that CP would love and consider stud QBS like Cutler, Stafford, and Rivers but they haven't win shit either

I should have added Hunt family as a reason.

Because you are the Chiefs.

QB play. Plain and simple. The times when we had an advantage under center we won.

Uh, the Chiefs have won the super bowl.

Where is the havent got lucky option?

Yep should have been since the merger.

This would mean that there is only one reason. That is simply not the case.

More recently it's because this team...on multiple occasions, under multiple coaching staffs....just refuse to draft a starting QB.

I think it's safe to say at this point, it's not just that it's not the right time or there isn't the right guy etc. They've just flat out refused to do it.

I think it all falls on Hunt family's shoulders. They're the only constant though out all of this. I don't think that family (or Clark) wants to draft a franchise QB. They don't want to have to pay anyone a $100M contract should that draft pick pan out and become and elite QB in the league. Clark wouldn't want to give that person a 2nd contract.

I truly believe that. They're cheap. It's the same reason why the Chiefs have NEVER landed a top tier FA. If they've signed a name, it's either a bargain deal on a tier 2 or 3 free agent or the player has passed his prime (Surtain, Law).

They continue the disregard the most important position in the game. It's that simple.

Kansas City Cheaps

We wasted our great defensive years with crap QB play, We wasted our potent offensive years with crap defensive play. And then there were all those years that everything just flat out sucked.

There is plenty of blame to go around. No one thing has prevented it.

A great QB makes everyone's lives easier, you can actually spend a little bit less on the offense if you have a great QB and can use that savings on the defense because a great QB compensates on the offense. This is a huge economic reality in today's NFL. The apparent disinterest the Chiefs have in drafting in a high round and developing a QB in the past 30+ years is alarming, and it is not surprising they have not even been to let alone win a Superbowl in that time frame.

Disappointing.

We were the closest under Vermeil and Marty, but just because they had their shortcomings doesn't mean they're responsible for our lack of SB trophies. Perhaps you could make the argument that they're two of the biggest reasons why we don't have any playoff wins in 20 years, but not Super Bowls.

If I had to name the biggest culprit, I blame poorly constructed teams built by GMs and coaches with a lack of testicles and too much trust in their philosophies and personnel. That covers the Vermeil and Marty teams with glaring weaknesses, but also the organization's unwillingness to try to put in our own real ****ing QB. Also, the people who sucked at their jobs weren't fired quickly enough, which includes players and coaches alike.

And for that, you can probably blame Lamar Hunt for being too loyal, which trickled down in the organization from his leadership.

Clark is a bit less like his father, but he's kind of clueless.

Obvious answer is obvious

Incomplete poll is incomplete.

Owner doesn't want it bad enough.

But just like San Diego realized after a few seasons, Marty style football makes you think you are close to a championship, but in reality you are so so far away, like as far away as teams that didn't make the playoffs that year. Marty never brought a 'killer' and dangerous team into the playoffs, just teams that played 'not to lose.'

Vermeil probably had us the closest we have been. An offense that could easily hang 40 on anyone. If he had stayed a little bit longer who knows what could have happened.

I don't doubt Chunt desire, I actually doubt his savvy and football IQ. I just don't think he knows what he is doing, an example of this is bringing in two horrible GM's back to back (Pioli and Dorsey). His apparent lack of football brilliance is crippling the organization.

Chiefs don't want to draft a quarterback because they are scared to death of failure. All they see in their heads is the 80s when they tired it twice. They don't want that again, they just want to be nice and safe around 8-8 at least to keep butts in the seats plain and simple.

Luck isn't real. Kind of like Santa Claus or the bogeyman.

Luck as a CONCEPT exists, and mathematical chance exists, but one person, or entity having more inherent "luck" than others? Nope~

8-8.. is still failure.

He's more of a fútbol fan

Same thing that happened to Herm.

Roaf and Shields would have retired, our defense would continue to struggle (perhaps even moreso than it did), and Trent Green would become feeble and unable to properly run the offense.

Only thing that Vermeil would have done better is manage Larry Johnson in such a way that would get him more effective ways of carrying the ball, so that the weapon he was in the second half of 2005 would continue through 2006 and 2007.

In any case, still no playoff win.

GO AWAY!

Hunt family.

This! Wtf is wrong with these so called fans??

This...

Should have won it that year that Grbac missed something like the last 6 games and Gannon won 5 out of those 6. (iirc) Then they yank Gannon and put in Grbac just in time to **** up the playoffs.

DITTO! :thumb:

Not making an effort to sign Drew Brees...missing on the majority of 1st round picks. Playing in a city that probably ranks 3rd from the bottom ..behind Cleveland and Buffalo in desirability for FAs...Peyton Manning/John Elway playing in the AFC. Never having a true #1 receiver in 20+ years....letting Gannon walk. Hiring retread coaches based on name recognition...piss poor luck at the worst moments.

I think the whole Emmanuel Sanders situation paints a pretty clear picture...and the fact Manning wouldn't even return phone calls.

Green Bay is up there too, they've just drafted well. Over 90% of that community is white, and when they see any black guy the residents always assume he's a football player.

Hold up..what is this shit about Santa not being real..you will shut your whore mouth before you destroy everything in my life

This is easy. We haven't won one because we haven't been to one. Hello!!!

This situation is so ****ed , the Chiefs are ****tarded to bottom dwellers for three years minimum unless KC 's upcoming draft is likened to the 1974 Pittsburgh Steelers.

Vermeil's offense could put up a shit ton of points, but defense still wins championships, and his defenses sucked ass.

Marty, for all his flaws, had a far better shot of winning than did that useless Dick.

I am not happy with Dorsey's decisions to this point, but calling him horrible is a bit premature, especially when it's clear that his first offseason was almost certainly guided by Hunt's direction to stop the bleeding and get fans back into the seats.

this never been able to get their shit together on both sides of the ball

Where is Arrowhead is cursed and or All of the above?

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Bad drafting and bad coaching.

Why is there not an option for "God hates the Chiefs"

We had more probowlers last year than any other team. We should have beatin Indy in that playoff game. God just hates us !

and we lost our version of Peyton Manning on Defensive side of the ball, without DJ's presence they'll be bleeding from orifices that they never knew they had. Our situation is a complete cluster****, meanwhile the Colts drafted QB Jesus in Luck as their savior right. It's back to business as usual with the Colts and their QB spoiled fans.

We on the other hand, are a cum stained napkin when Charlie Sheen's WINNING with his pornstar girlfriends in comparison.

Where is the option where the Hunt Family and the Chiefs FO never fielded a complete team?

The Falcons, Lions, Panthers, Redskins, Rams, Browns, Dolphins, Titans, and Jaguars have all won a SB recently because they drafted and tried to develop a 1st round QB . . . Oh wait.

You been here long enough!

You know better than to bring logic and common sense to a biased, drama filled thread!! :shake: :)

Answers such as the Hunts, or a QB, are simple answers to a complex question.

To win a SB requires a balanced team. For numerous reasons, we have not fielded such a Team.

They haven't made it to a Super Bowl.....

1 and 3 are pretty accurate

Did not draft two number 1 in the 80's. Steve Fuller in ' 79 and jack off 1 in '83.

THAT'S NOT ****ING FUNNY

Linn Elliottt and Paul "Can't" Hackett

Girlbac didn't lose that game. He outplayed Elway.

Marty's stupid coaching decisions lost that game...

What really sucks is that a lot of the talent that worked for Marty and Carl went on to have bigger success elsewhere


Dungy
cowher
McCarthy
John Schneider

Ice Cube summarized this accurately: Big dicks in your ass is bad for your health.

Um...the Chiefs have won the Super Bowl.

Poll FAIL

/don't do a poll unless rainman

Cursed

US.

"Single biggest reason Chiefs have not won the SB"

Other than Winning Super Bowl 4?

Yes

-coaching staffs incapable of motivating players burdened by the underlying psychology of playing in a small market on a team which is never expected to succeed by anyone but their fan base

-failed general management incapable of assembling a balanced and competitive team with solid depth.. coupled with distracted and displaced ownership
(I'd say this is the biggest reason)

-Lack of top-tier leadership in key positions (FO, HC, QB)

I'd say it's a perfect storm of many things including those mentioned above, and consistently poor position coaches/coordinators, lack of a smart QB with above average leadership skills (we had solid production in Montana, Gannon, and Green but they were failed by things beyond their control), KC being a poor destination for free-agents to consider for many reasons including a losing tradition, and poor foresight in selecting draft picks and outcasts from other teams.

Glad all you guys cleared this up.

Now the last 30 years of heart break are erased by a SB win that happened before I was born...:spock:

It was obvious to me he meant "in the modern era" or "in the recent past". But maybe he really didn't know KC has 1 World Championship.

An owner who wants it badly enough will overcome his ego and need to decide who should be coach and GM, and will seek, obtain and then FOLLOW impartial expert advice. Owners that make their own decisions still don't want it as bad as they want to indulge their egos.

"The modern era"?

It makes no sense to exclude the first 4 Super Bowls. They are called SUPER BOWLS. The only thing that changed between Super Bowls 4 and 5 is that the AFL became the AFC and 3 teams switched conferences.

The guy who started this thread is an idiot.

The biggest reason we haven't won the Super Bowl?

I'd say, and this is just a wild guess....


It's the embarrassing string of consecutive playoff game losses?

Yep THIS !!

It's because the Chiefs Kingdom is a Feudal system.

Pretty sure that Lamar's deal with the devil included the stipulation that the Chiefs were never to win another Super Bowl after they beat the Vikings. That, and the fact that the Fellowship of Christian Athletes building across the highway is built on an ancient Indian burial ground. The whole city is ****ed now because of it.

Because the Chiefs have been unwilling/unable to build a passing game that can compete in today's NFL.

Last week's game is a perfect microcosm… the Chiefs are down 17-3 in the THIRD QUARTER and it might as well have been 70-3 because the Chiefs have no ability to effectively pass the ball on a consistent basis to comeback.

Because they suck, and it's karma for their shitty fans.

1993.

Trent Green and Dick Vermeil say hello dumbass.

Because we are the chiefs

Shitty fans....**** you go the **** away you POS.

No.

Ty Law gave us two gifts in Indianapolis. Two monster gifts and we couldn't execute from 5 yards out. I'm gonna say coaching. We seem to never have a good balance.