Would You Welcome the Chiefs Leaving to Rid Yourself of the Hunts?
 

Bill Simmons' column on Daniel Snyder made me think about this again.

Over the last forty years there have been two consistent themes with the Chiefs: futility and the Hunt family.

If you were presented with the option of the Chiefs leaving for LA and getting a new franchise in Kansas City in 2018 would you take that deal, or is your loyalty to the Chiefs alone too great?

Who gets the uniforms? It's the uniform that I'm loyal to.

That's a solid question. Honestly, with how the NFL has been, I'd probably just walk away if the Chiefs left KC.

Wait. If the Chiefs went to LA sans the Hunts, I would still be a Chiefs man.

If the Chiefs take the hunts with them to LA, **** that noise; I'd embrace the new franchise post-haste.

Ownership is not the issue period. Clark has spent a ton of $ trying to turn this around.

Doesn't matter. Both would be nothing but 8-8 teams.

I'd follow the team to LA....and then watch as the expansion team won a ****ing Superbowl after drafting a QB in the 1st round.

If the new franchise were to demolish Arrowhead and build elsewhere, it would probably win championships in short order.

If he set fire to the money as an offerings to the Gods instead of giving it to a legitimate QB we would be pissed.

I'm pissed.

You honestly think, if the Hunts left for LA, the new owner would get a new stadium? LMAO

Agreed.

Expansion worked out for the Ravens. Not so much for the Browns.

I always have and always will steadfastly maintain that talk of Clark "not wanting to win" is straight garbage... the guy has done nothing but go after the so called ELITE of what was currently available to run his team since the day he took over, sparing NO expense to bring them aboard.

He's not a GM.
He's not a Head Coach.

He understands that, as opposed to guys like Jerruh and Snyder and I DO appreciate that... the Hunt legacys problem, to include Clark, is being a hands off loyalist to a fault, not being enough of a hardass whose foot feels all warm and comfy in his underlings asses.

Jerry Jones has a lot of money. Money and throwing it around like a Jamaican sailor in Dutch port isn't the issue. It's the choices you make with that money.

And if you don't live, eat, sleep, and breathe this league, if you aren't gifted with a bit of inventiveness and vision, all of the oil money on earth isn't going to do a damned thing for you.

Fine but Clark has not been his Dad and being loyal to a fault though he is getting the blame for his Dad's faults.

Its a bit early into the Clark tenure to say he is his dad.

doesn't matter. The only expansion the NFL will look at is overseas. If the Chiefs were to move to LA there would be no more football here.

You don't think he had any hand in the "trade for Alex Smith and put butts back in the seats" shit that we're going through right now?

For those of us with no real ties to KC, I don't think it's a deal breaker. Everyone else I expect it would be.

I believe that Clark has really tried since he took over.

If the Chiefs moved to LA....it would just enable me to go more home games than I currently do right now.

Look brah, 5 million Max Von Sydow's chanting in unison couldn't exercise that flop-house.

If new owner is smart, he'd build elsewhere.

He said in 2007 that it was time for the Chiefs to draft and develop their own QB. Then he hired to regimes that did just the opposite. His own faults are enough.

So Reid and Dorsey were just throwing money to the wind or trying to build a contender?

There's nothing wrong with the Hunt family or Clark Hunt himself. He's proven to us that he cares. He went out and paid Andy Reid. A man he expected to do great things and was a proven head coach. The Hunt family is not the problem. Clark has proven that.

I was just about to post the same thing.

My wife wants to move to Socal so bad on the water that I'd end up selling timeshare in Palm Springs. Horrible ****ing life I'm sure...

Two. Two. 2.

Been a Chiefs fan since their formation back in the 60's. Had season tickets for 6 years, have always followed them and not missed many games over those decades. With the direction the NFL is headed and the sour taste still in my mouth from the Pioli years, I could give a rat's ass if they move, or if the NFL would end up shutting down (which I think will happen, just not in my lifetime).

2007 he inherited what was here. He is on his 2nd GM and they are in year 2.

Just think about that cost of living increase. JFC.

The Hunts have made me unfamiliar with W's.

And we've still yet to draft and develop our own QB.

WHERE IS MY HOMEGROWN QB THAT HE PROMISED ME?????

7 ****ing years and his two GMs have traded for retread QBs TWICE.

That was directed at Clark, not the people he hired.

This better not turn into a bash Clark Hunt thread. That man may be a business man first, football/soccer man second, but he's shown that when we want CHANGE, he makes it happen. He certainly cares about his dads team.

ROFL

Whatever he learned, he learned from his old man.

And that info. is CLEARLY out-dated.

He's a fine owner. The last of my worries is Clark Hunt, and I used to question him. But he's proven to this fanbase that he cares and that he's not afraid to throw some money at good coaches. Now it's up to Andy Reid and Dorsey**** to make shit happen.

Beautiful thing about sales is the higher prices gets me a bigger commission and off sets that. I got lucky to fall into this shit.

See the Cleveland Browns re-launch… as tortured as we think it is now, it can always be worse.

I think he was persuaded by the arguments of the very successful in their previous roles people he hired, that yes, not only can Smith quickly turn us around but if we can shape him to our own needs he'll take us on a deep run.

And I'm simply not going to blame him for listening to all of those combined years of pro football experience... Smith is on TWO people, not three.

Dorsey/Reid - mostly Reid I'm sure - believed he could mold Smith into the ultimate low risk/high reward machine under his own expert tutelage and sold Clark on it. Why wouldnt Clark believe his own highly prized and paid hire to make that decision like most any good owner would?

Clarky has bent over backwards to appease this fanbase as far as I'm concerned and the people he's hired have ****ed him HARD... its time he got angry about some shit.

His GM, his Head Coach, the League... he needs to be riding ALL of their asses, using the weight his family name and money brings him, seriously. We're a league punching bag right now it seems, Clark needs to be the big money man and put his foot in some asses right now.

If the Chiefs left KC, they would NEVER get a new team!

Yeah, that's probably the actual real-world scenario. Team versus no team.

Easy decision for me.

Completely different team in Kansas City would be awesome. Just going by the hypothetical.

Losing the team would be a bummer but a small fraction of a bummer if you had asked me in the past. I would mostly be bummed for other friends and family who would be defestated by it.

Yes.

If the next QB is not drafted, why not?

Set a fire in our flesh.

Would love to see a return of the KC Kings as a football team.

I have zero reason to believe the next starter for the Chiefs will be a home drafted QB.

The guys in charge have that history. To act differently is simply just being stubborn.

Problem is as long as the Hunts can continue to fleece the KC market with little risk of fielding a championship team. They will never leave...

It would be a dream come true if they took the Chuefs to LA and gave us another team.

Trading for Alex Smith in 2013 was the right move. The 2013 QB class is most likely the worst in the history of the league and everyone knew it.

We've brought a QB in every year and I think they will continue to do so especially as Alex gets older.

There is no way Alex gets $20 million in his last year under his contract. No ****ing way.

Chiefs aren't going anywhere. Neither is the Hunt Family. Owning the Chiefs is a license to print money. Chiefs are the Chicago Cubs of the NFL. As long as they make money, championships are waaaaay down the pecking order. Look, big boxes that shoot fire out of them during pregame! ooooooooo......

What would ever rid us of the PAIN, though?

Pipe dream.

The Ravens weren't an expansion team. Try again.

"RED AND WHITE, MIKE" Livingston
10 Yard Loss Fuller
Tony "What's the Point" Adams
Bill Pussy
Todd Sackledge
Can't Stick With A Good Team DeBerg
Fumbles Kreig
Geriatric Montana
Oh No Bono
Elvis the Pants Wetter
Good Enough For Oakland Gannon
Tr-INT Green
The Maytag Repairman
Damen Hue-Tard
Brokie Croyle
Thiggy
Shoe Salesman Palko
Not the Good Brady (Quin)
Rent an Orton
Mark Casshole
Trick Shot Tanney
Alex Smiff....

Seen Enough???

I don't see a pattern forming here/Lil' Chiefy.

Winning cures all ills, my friend.

Imagine it:

The return of the Kansas City Kings, but none of that hokey 'royal-esque' shit.

These Kings are like someone threw the gawddamned Latin Kings in to football uniforms!

They're mean, they're nasty, and they're gonna' **** SOME SHIT UP!

https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3...8XGctaWHBdf4ag

SOOOOOO down.

What are people wanting to hold on to?


All of the Chief's success is waaaay in the past. That's means ZERO to me.


I would be happy with a fresh start in which we can all look to the FUTURE.

There are 32 teams in the NFL, how many would you think have a major ownership advantage over KC and what are the odds the Chiefs end up better with a different owner?

Look at who is set up right now for long term success and where their QB's came from.

Indy - #1 overall, ****ing assholes.

GB- Late 1st rounder 20 teams passed on including our dumb asses

Seattle - 3rd round

NE - 6th round QB has made owner and coach look like a genius.

Pitt - Mid 1st round QB. Great pick.

Dallas - Undrafted FA QB.

Its not like the NFL is just riddled with kick ass QB's and coaches.

All depends...

Yeah they've won 2 playoff games in 40 years just because.

I voted leave, so y'all can be happier.

Get your facts straight.

Oh sorry 5 playoff games in 40 years. Doesn't Mark Sanchez have the same amount of playoff wins his whole career?

:LOL::LOL::LOL::LOL::LOL:

Roll, baby ROLL!

You want Sanchez as your QB genius? That would have changed the entire Chiefs history the last 5 years?

Go back to making up imaginary scenarios in your head about kicking peoples asses.

Ever heard that saying about birds of a feather?

What does any of what you just said have to do with the point I made that this franchise the last 40 years has the same amount of playoff wins as a mediocre QB? Yet you post some stupid homer garbage about the Hunts aren't the problem because they throw money at the problem instead of actually addressing it?

Calling people homer as a response to their opinion reminds me of a very accurate saying.

If it weren't for the weather, stupid people wouldn't have anything to talk about.

I don't expect you to get it.

Are you going to backup your claim or keep diverting from the conversation?

At this point, I'd really like to know what the **** "it" is in regards to this red and gold abortion, please?

Its pretty comical really.

I understand what the franchise has missed out on.

Rodgers, Brees, and a handful of other QB's the last 10 years.

I also understand many many other teams have drafted QB's constantly and it hasn't worked for them.

Its not a black and white issue, if it were so simple every team would have had a HOF QB at the helm in the last 15 years yet only 4 have.

I would love for KC to have a Rodgers at QB right now, more than anything. But I am not naive enough to think the Hunts don't want that.

What would possibly make more money for them than having Luck or Rodgers as their QB?

Some of you guys don't connect all the dots and only use the logic you want until it gets you to the point you want to make.

If the whole belief is all Clark wants is money in his pocket, its cheaper than ever to draft a QB and pay him for 5 years. If you are winning you then show him the bank and still win and make money right?

But Clark is afraid of that right? LMAO

The only things Clark is afraid of are bad publicity, fan revolt, and loss of revenue.

And unfortunately, that has translated time and again in to taking the (seemingly) quick and easy path which leads to...


Someone? Clay?

The Chiefs are the only reason I still watch the NFL. If they left KC, I'd be done with the league.

This ^^^

They pull up stakes and leave so long to football in KC.

That

The chuefs product is beyond stale.

So difficult to enjoy the wins or feel any emotions when they lose.