Those that have said Cutler is better than Alex Smith.
 

Cutler now has more INTs this season than Alex has in the last two seasons combined. Cutler has Alshon Jefferey, Brandon Marshall, and Matt Forte.
Cutler has a huge arm but the rest is just shit.

...are simply retarted.

Everybody said that, except for me. I was laughed at when I told everyone we had a better qb than Cutler

Well now. This is certainly a thought provoking thread that won't end up as another Alex bash session.

I'm not the biggest Smith fan in the world, he certainly has limitations. I would rather have Smith over Cutler, simply for consistency. Cutler is undisciplined, and that leads to too many mistakes. Give me Alex and his limited arm over the big arm small brain of Cutler any day of the week, especially on Sunday.

I didn't want Cutler either. I thought Smith would be better overall but still had limitations that would have to be overcome.

Would rather have Alex Tanney over Cutler

Did tommykat hack your computer?

There are about 7-10 guys that play QB in the NFL that truly distance themselves from the Cutler/Flacco/Smith tier.

The Cutler/Flacco/Smith tier are guys that all have excellent strengths and are held back due to 1 or several FATAL flaws that will pretty much prevent them from ever establishing continued playoff dominance or success unless the stars align perfectly like they did 1 season for Joe "I'm terrible at QB" Flacco.

Can we just get someone better then?

Maybe, but you might get someone worse? It is a roll of the dice. I didn't say it was or wasn't worth the roll.

If we had those weapons on the outside Smith and this offense might look quite a bit different. MIGHT not sure if Andy or Smith would want to affective use those weapons.

FOOOOOOO CHIT! :cuss: :cuss:

They wouldn't be thrown to unless they were cool with just running slants all day.

Cutler/Smith; you say shitbag, I say bag o' shit. Cutler is melting down in impressive fashion this second half of the season.

Cutler has a lower floor, but a higher ceiling

Alex just hovers around the mean, constantly

No risk, no reward

cutler is a dunce and has no interest whatsoever in becoming a better qb.

They both manage to hurt their teams in their own respective ways. Cutler just makes it a point to look like he doesn't give a **** that he's hurting his team.

The Bears literally have the worst defense in football.

I'm sure Alex would win more games in Chicago.

I didn't laugh. I laughed when all the guys on here said Cutler was worth that kind of money and didn't flinch. I knew Chicago was crazy to put that kind of contract together for that bone head.

IQ > arm strength.

Cutler is 44-39 as Chicago's starter.

You'd think he was a loser.

Not sure if you're trying to slam him or what, but you're actually dead on the money... they would.

So is Pablo, Smith hovers right around the mean... Smitty did give me just a tiny sliver of hope last week though. I believe it was zilla that said that the only time Smith really tries to push it downfield is when he feels his back is to the wall or in big game situations.

If Reid could only get him past that mental block he seems to have, dude would be decent enough on most occasions... but its going to take a lot more than a few deep attempts and completions against the worst team in the league to get me back on the wagon.

Given Alex's history in 24+ games...no, they wouldn't.

Cutler is basically having a Trent Green type of career in Chicago...couple winning seasons (3 in fact), couple years around .500, one really bad year.

No OL and no defense but it's all his fault!

Bullshit dude, dont let your Smith hate get in the way of common sense.

Reasonably steady production most of the time > boom or bust big arm antics that continually **** his teams defense and morale.

ed* no O line for Cutler? baloney... they revamped it completely and all I read in the offseason was how happy they were to finally have given him a good one.

Yeah, they gave him a pretty ludicrous deal. Are we really the franchise to be casting insults about over-paying for shit QBs?

44 INT's in the last 3 years for Cutler up there in Chicago.
It would be a lot easier to win if the offense wasn't turning the ball over at such an alarming rate.
Cutler will likely be cut by the Bears this off-season since they have already admitted to having buyers remorse up there.

Alex 24+: 3-36-1

Cutler 24+: 14-38

Do you think that's a lot or something?

It's not.

The Bears defense is a far bigger problem than their QB.

Cutler's never been anything other than a big arm. At one time he had some luck with Brandon Marshall on his team but now he can't throw with that tiny brain of his.

Who wins more than he loses...

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Playoff wins:

Alex: 1
Cutler: 1

A pretty loss and an ugly loss is still a loss.

Are you honestly saying that you'd swap Cutler for Smith right now if you could?

how many years on crappy teams each?

Who has the better overall record in the past 4 years?

He is throwing more INTs with better weapons than most of the others that are up there with him. He has a better OL than a lot of teams as well.

Cutler is getting worse as the offense has gotten more talented around him.

I wouldn't underestimate the difference in either overall pass attempts or downfield pass attempts when it comes to analyzing Smith's interception numbers compared to Cutler. As of last week (splits haven't been updated on espn's site yet, and Cutler did have a poor game, so they'll shift some...) Smith had more than 100 fewer attempts, as well as half the attempts of Cutler with regards to passes traveling 11+ yards in the air. With those passes, the statistical difference for interception rate between the two was just 1% as of a week ago, which was a bit of a surprise to me. Double Smith's attempts in that range, at his current pick rate, and he has 4-5 more interceptions in the 11+ yard range, meaning 9-10 versus Cutler's 11.

I don't know Cutler's stats in that sense for Monday's game, but basically, Smith's pick numbers would likely be higher if he a) threw 100 more passes, and b) attempted more passes beyond 10 yards. Something which I think most of us actively want him to do, knowing full well that it will occasionally lead to a turnover.

Clay trolling a thread calling out Clay.


Well done

LMAO

This type of statistical analysis has no place on ChiefsPlanet.

Tebow has a better record than Cutler while in Denver. :doh!:

Yeah, I don't know just how amazing the Saints defense is; but Chicago's line looked very Chiefs-esque.

**** both of them. But if you don't think that Cutler's league leading turnovers aren't hurting his defense, then you are reeruned.

Rivers/Cutler/Romo.......


They are all the same guy

Thats all true, but its not because of a lack of effort on the Bears behalf, the stories about their revamped unit and how proud they were of it were all over the webs in camp/preseason.

IMO, a lot of that offenses troubles boils down to a lack of confidence in their QB... maybe almost like my Army days, our captain up there in Alaska was hardcore, Ranger and the whole bit, very serious and squared away.

And guess what? that unit rocked, great morale, kicked ass in the field etc.

Then I go to Ft. Campbell where the CO was thoroughly average, not a West Pointer... and we sucked during our field exercises (war games), the individual talent we definitely had couldnt make up for the shit decisions coming down from the top.

Trestman is a shitty colonel, but Cutler is an even shittier Commanding Officer... so yeah, Cutler sucks, no winning attitude present in him even to the layman observer.

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Game managing QBs just means you're scared to compete with the opposing team.

Clausen lovers unite!

Wow, sooo pathetic... the robot armed franchise guy is being replaced this late in the year, I'm not sure if it says worse things about Cutler or Trestman.

For a QB guy to give up on a talent like Cutler, in an obvious attempt to keep his job... it stinks man, the Bears stink... Clausen could go 2-0 and Trestman should still lose his job for being such a lilly livered sucker for allowing himself and his bajillion dollar starter to be questioned this much.

Say hello to your new team, Jim Harbaugh... good luck lighting a fire under Jays sorry ass, you'll be wanting to draft someone else in year one, I gaurantee it.

But Russell Wilson

I have shown the BS that is this stat more times than I can count yet you keep throwing it out there like its accurate or actually means something. We have lost a bunch of games when the offense scores more than 24 when the defense gives up 40 yet it fits into your "stat". See the Indy playoff game for example.


BTW Cutler just got benched for Jimmy Clausen. LMAO

It sure classified Cassel and Alex as the turds they are.

It's Inmem58. You can't expect better from him.

LMAO

Because the defense gives up 44 and the offense scores 40 then the QB is a turd because he lost a game where the defense gave up more than 24 points?

You are one obstinate son of a bitch and frankly I am glad you are back on the hate wagon.

Facts are facts.

The better QBs have better records in that situation and it's not really up for debate. It is NFL history.

I look forward to us losing more games when the opponent scores 24+. I guarantee it keeps happening!

I'm going to be in attendance for the Lions-Bears shit show this Sunday.. that one will sure be ugly.

You posses as much football knowledge as my dog Gunner.

That's a fact.

There is no denying it: we are going to keep losing games if the opponent hits the 24-point mark.

You know it, I know it...Alex probably even knows it.

It is destiny.

Cutler's career is weird. Because of it's consistency. Rating other than 1st CHI season has always been 86ish

When he was 24-25 all he needed was 10% improvement in efficiency as he went on and he would be a great QB.

That 10% improvement is basically what Alex Smith did in his career.

Cutler: "Eh, whatever..."

Has he thrown a TD to a receiver? How many has Alex thrown??....

FYP.

Would pay many dollar to watch Smith throw to Marshall and Jeffries in an Andy Reid directed offense.

We know its hip to burn Smith fans, but really... comparing these two guys is enough to implode a skyscraper, very very little in common there.

I'm so down on Smith that only a playoff win will salvage his rep with me, but if you're casting your lot with Clay and taking Cutler over Smith... then, well, I can only pull a rear guard action for so long before I abandon you to the hounds.

Cutler was benched for Jimmy Clausen and the dumbass QB1 club still finds a way to convince themselves that he is actually better than Alex Smith. ROFL Comedy gold.

The fervor with which they defend the guy is just hilarious to me.

What the two give you is not much different in the grand scheme of things. They'll give you a 9-7 team and a first round playoff exit more often than not.

The amount of stupid it takes to support cutler is astounding.

Life losers ftw.

STFU

Chicago's line is ****ing horrible. One of the worst in the league.

Don't know if it was mentioned on tv last night but on the radio they said Cutler was refusing to even speak to the ocoord last night.

Dude is cancer

Jay Cutler=Jeff George.

I made that exact comparison when was the QB for Denver.

It's a poor comparison.

Jeff George was 30 games under .500.

But he throws jank ass passes down field.

Which shows your football acumen includes nothing but looking at stat lines.

I was willing to give him the benefit of the doubt as a rookie and early in his career. He never did stop making those cringe worthy game changing mistakes though.

Almost exactly the same.

Both guys had talent but had a head full of dicks.

100% correct. Well said.

It took a few seasons to show it but he absolutely refuses to change and his attitude is shit which also matched Jeff George to tee.