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Rain Man 12-17-2014 10:52 PM

Pyramid Scheme Ads
 
I passed a pickup on my way home from work tonight, and it had a big sticker on the back that said,

"Make $30k a month or more with Qivana" (and then a phone number).

I want to know how the conversation went that resulted in "or more" being added.

So I'm envisioning that these people are sitting around the room and they're all making about $75 a month selling fruit juice or something to their grandparents. They need to recruit people below them in the pyramid, so they come up with the idea to put an ad on their truck.

"How about 'earn $75 a month with Qivana'?"

"That's not enough. No one would be stupid enough to do that."

"How about $100? That's a lot."

"Still not enough. How about $1,000?"

"$1,000? I've never seen that much money. But is it lifechanging? Can we get, like doctors and stuff to sell Qivana? I want everyone to sell it."

"Oh! Oh! How about $10,000? TEN THOUSAND! You could buy a house with that much money! Every month!"

"Too many zeroes. People will get confused. Let's just go with $30,000."

"$30,000 it is. Make up to $30,000 a month."

"But ... wait. We want to get everyone. What if $30,000 isn't enough? The really good salespeople may want to make more."

"That's why you're a genius. Let's make it $30,000 or more. That way we'll get everyone to call. No one can resist that."

ChiefsCountry 12-17-2014 10:54 PM

I would love to be the one who came with a pyramid scheme sometime. Make millions off dipshits.

Rain Man 12-17-2014 10:55 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 11199813)
I would love to be the one who came with a pyramid scheme sometime. Make millions off dipshits.

For every two people who rep me on this thread and mention your name in the comment, I'll rep you. Now you do the same with others, and rep me once for every four reps you get. Everyone wins.

Simply Red 12-17-2014 10:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 11199808)
I passed a pickup on my way home from work tonight, and it had a big sticker on the back that said,

"Make $30k a month or more with Qivana" (and then a phone number).

I want to know how the conversation went that resulted in "or more" being added.

So I'm envisioning that these people are sitting around the room and they're all making about $75 a month selling fruit juice or something to their grandparents. They need to recruit people below them in the pyramid, so they come up with the idea to put an ad on their truck.

"How about 'earn $75 a month with Qivana'?"

"That's not enough. No one would be stupid enough to do that."

"How about $100? That's a lot."

"Still not enough. How about $1,000?"

"$1,000? I've never seen that much money. But is it lifechanging? Can we get, like doctors and stuff to sell Qivana? I want everyone to sell it."

"Oh! Oh! How about $10,000? TEN THOUSAND! You could buy a house with that much money! Every month!"

"Too many zeroes. People will get confused. Let's just go with $30,000."

"$30,000 it is. Make up to $30,000 a month."

"But ... wait. We want to get everyone. What if $30,000 isn't enough? The really good salespeople may want to make more."

"That's why you're a genius. Let's make it $30,000 or more. That way we'll get everyone to call. No one can resist that."


My Ex Wife is an executive milf. She's no dummy & pulls about 300k per year - anyhow - I heard from my ex neighbor she and her new pro golf husband (club pro) - approached him about a scheme involving a cure all African tree - he said she seemed almost brain washed, Tim said he sent them packing and said "NFW."

TimeForWasp 12-17-2014 11:21 PM

I got caught up in some of that shit. Boy did I throw some money out the window. The relatively small bunch of gurus that are always in first on these different schemes are always the ones that make the money every time and they always pretend to take you under their wing. To think of the money I wasted on this shit just pisses me off.

Water under the bridge. I hate to think about it.

007 12-18-2014 01:01 AM

My son got swindled into an energy drink scheme. He just refused to listen to me and wasted $160. Vemma

RobBlake 12-18-2014 01:07 AM

Wake up now.

Thats all i need to say. smh

Jimmya 12-18-2014 06:11 AM

There are cars with Herbalife stickers driving all around Texas....... Crazy

headsnap 12-18-2014 07:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Simply Red (Post 11199819)
My Ex Wife is an executive milf. She's no dummy & pulls about 300k per year - anyhow - I heard from my ex neighbor she and her new pro golf husband (club pro) - approached him about a scheme involving a cure all African tree - he said she seemed almost brain washed, Tim said he sent them packing and said "NFW."

Zija

I have some friends that who are all about that...

HonestChieffan 12-18-2014 08:03 AM

http://www.drinklifein.com/company

What can be bad? And you reap rewards of gold and jewels while helping others....

Predarat 12-18-2014 09:30 AM

One of my exes had parents that loved that shit, they had these damn Algea Pills, phone cards, fuel cards, insurance, you name the pyramid scheme, they were probably trying to do it.

Eleazar 12-18-2014 09:51 AM

There was one of those MLM schemes that used to advertise relentlessly on the radio where I lived at the time, called the "3 Step Plan". You can listen to all these radio commercials and infomercials and even go to their website and still have no clue what they expect you to do for the money they say you can earn. Eventually I found out that it's selling some health drink like many of these other schemes are. You had to buy $100 in product a month and it sold for $40 a bottle.

arrwheader 12-18-2014 10:02 AM

Yea i got a buddy who;s sucked i nto this life leadership BS. He is delusional and totally brainwashed. they have cult meetings. He wasted an hour of my life coming over trying to get me to join and then bugged me for about a month after. I didnt tgell him to GTFO of my house the moment he opened his mouth because i used to have respect for the guy. Now hes signed up for their gold membership or whatever dumping like $500 down the toilet every month paying for information that you can find for free on the internet. Sad how dumb people are...............

Dayze 12-18-2014 10:27 AM

Years ago, a friend of my wife’s was all about some new ‘business’. Was constantly trying to get us to buy into it. His sales pitch was like “imagine… a place where you could go, and buy anything you needed. Shoes. Home décor. Automotive etc. what would you say to an idea like that”.

I said “so…like, the internet”?


…silence. Lol. Dumbass. He was basically pitching what is effectively Amazon; a one stop shop (for the most part).
He literally wasted away about $20k / his entire savings up to that point. Haven’t heard from him in years, but he’s definitely not a millionaire as he claimed he would be.

Kman34 12-18-2014 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Simply Red (Post 11199819)
My Ex Wife is an executive milf. She's no dummy & pulls about 300k per year - anyhow - I heard from my ex neighbor she and her new pro golf husband (club pro) - approached him about a scheme involving a cure all African tree - he said she seemed almost brain washed, Tim said he sent them packing and said "NFW."

Did this tree cure aids??... Now that would be ironic...

Rain Man 12-18-2014 03:06 PM

I'm guessing that a good rule of thumb is that any job offers on a truck sign or a telephone pole are probably not good career options.

There's a Democratic street soliciting group that keeps putting up illegal postings on light poles in our neighborhood. They go by different names, which is also a big red warning, and post under names like "Work For Progress", Fairshare, and most recently, Grassroots Campaigns. They supposedly hire people to "raise awareness" of issues, but in reality it's just a big scam to make money for some political machine. This is the Facebook site of one of their stupid front firms: https://www.facebook.com/cofairshare and here's another one: https://www.facebook.com/pages/Work-...&tab=page_info

If you look up the reviews on glassdoor.com, their business model is something like this:

1. "Hire" anyone who is dumb enough or desperate enough to call. They prey on the unemployed and on young college kids.
2. Give them a clipboard and a sales speech.
3. Send them out to knock on doors, with a requirement that they get some amount of money by the end of the day. That money then funds a sub-minimum wage paycheck for them and makes someone rich.

What's unbelievable to me is that the people posting the reviews on glassdoor.com seem to believe that they're offering real (if terrible) jobs. It's a scam, people. It's not a job. It's a scam.

RobBlake 12-19-2014 01:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Dayze (Post 11200222)
Years ago, a friend of my wife’s was all about some new ‘business’. Was constantly trying to get us to buy into it. His sales pitch was like “imagine… a place where you could go, and buy anything you needed. Shoes. Home décor. Automotive etc. what would you say to an idea like that”.

I said “so…like, the internet”?


…silence. Lol. Dumbass. He was basically pitching what is effectively Amazon; a one stop shop (for the most part).
He literally wasted away about $20k / his entire savings up to that point. Haven’t heard from him in years, but he’s definitely not a millionaire as he claimed he would be.

how could anyone be THAT naive? wtf

Jimmya 12-19-2014 05:37 AM

Millions are made off of naive people every day.

Three7s 12-19-2014 07:39 AM

It's not impossible to make money online obviously, but it's through pyramid schemes. Freelancing is probably the easiest way to go, depending on your skillset.

Pitt Gorilla 12-19-2014 10:20 AM

Some dude tried to get me to buy into a riverboat. Seriously.

Sully 12-19-2014 10:26 AM

My mom has spent her entire life getting into these. From when I was very young, and Amway, solidly until now.

Saul Good 12-19-2014 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Sully (Post 11202086)
My mom has spent her entire life getting into these. From when I was very young, and Amway, solidly until now.

She must be extremely wealthy.

Sully 12-19-2014 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Saul Good (Post 11202103)
She must be extremely wealthy.

She is Nigerian royalty... so there's that...



Actually, true story...

I've shared a little about my nutjob mom, on here.
She married a man from Jordan when I was 12 or 13, so that he could stay in the country. he then brought two of his brothers and his father to live with us, in our small house. It was awesome (I think she had a thing for him, but he was using her, yadda yadda yadda). I remember asking her once why she was doing this, and she said, "He comes from an oil rich family in the middle east. it never hurts to have that in your back pocket."

Yeah... he took off a few years later.


Apparently, though, he does come from a very well known oil family in the middle east. When I meet people from the middle east, I sometimes ask about the anem, and their eyes always go big. That said, if he were that wealthy, he wouldn't be slumming it with my mom living on Blue Ridge Blvd.

Eleazar 12-19-2014 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Three7s (Post 11201869)
It's not impossible to make money online obviously, but it's through pyramid schemes. Freelancing is probably the easiest way to go, depending on your skillset.

I'm sure it's possible to make money through MLM schemes, but you'd have to spend a ton of time on it and be an excellent recruiter. I don't think anybody makes money by moving product in those things.

Imon Yourside 12-19-2014 11:34 AM

Friends don't let friends do this crap...i've had a couple of friends get into this stuff. I tell them if u ask me to join that shit, we are NOT friends anymore..comprende?

kcfanXIII 12-19-2014 11:49 AM

Has anybody heard about the "It Works Wrap"? Its a weight loss thing. Anyways, I have a really good friend who has been selling them, and a cousin that has been selling them. My friend has made an insane amount of money off it, but I've had to block her on facebook because she was constantly using it to advertise. I had a talk with her because several of us in the circle were getting annoyed with it. She then opened a second facebook account to use to sell her product. This plan back fired, because instead of just posting her work stuff to the business account, she would share the statuses on her personal account. I ended up just blocking her. This is one of my really good friends, and I hate that she is hidden from my time line, but I couldn't take it anymore.
My cousin, who I don't really talk to a whole lot, got all pissy with me when I went on a rant about constantly seeing "chunky chicks who used the wrap and became slightly less chunky" on my timeline. seriously, it was constant. She got placed on the block list immediately.
But yeah, not only is it USUALLY a losing proposition to get involved with these stupid schemes, your friends will get fed up with your constant sales tactics. My cousin wears "It Works" tshirts to every family gathering too. Her and her husband.

Eleazar 12-19-2014 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by kcfanXIII (Post 11202315)
Has anybody heard about the "It Works Wrap"? Its a weight loss thing. Anyways, I have a really good friend who has been selling them, and a cousin that has been selling them. My friend has made an insane amount of money off it, but I've had to block her on facebook because she was constantly using it to advertise. I had a talk with her because several of us in the circle were getting annoyed with it. She then opened a second facebook account to use to sell her product. This plan back fired, because instead of just posting her work stuff to the business account, she would share the statuses on her personal account. I ended up just blocking her. This is one of my really good friends, and I hate that she is hidden from my time line, but I couldn't take it anymore.
My cousin, who I don't really talk to a whole lot, got all pissy with me when I went on a rant about constantly seeing "chunky chicks who used the wrap and became slightly less chunky" on my timeline. seriously, it was constant. She got placed on the block list immediately.
But yeah, not only is it USUALLY a losing proposition to get involved with these stupid schemes, your friends will get fed up with your constant sales tactics. My cousin wears "It Works" tshirts to every family gathering too. Her and her husband.

What is it with those wrap things? Those people are complete nazis about it, posting every day etc etc. Obviously, common sense tells you that if it's doing anything it's just an illusion, it's not enhancing your workouts or whatever. It's just causing you to sweat off the water weight in that area, so it'll come back when you rehydrate.

There is someone who posts that nonsense on my timeline too, and the ironic thing is that you probably couldn't get any kind of a wrap around her...

Why can't you just saran wrap yourself for the same effect, anyway? Is this like that foot soak that uses a chemical reaction to make you think "toxins" are being drawn out of your foot?

Rain Man 12-19-2014 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla (Post 11202072)
Some dude tried to get me to buy into a riverboat. Seriously.


I'm going to need your check soon. This riverboat thing is really going to take off, and I'd hate to see you get left behind.

Rain Man 12-19-2014 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by kcfanXIII (Post 11202315)
Has anybody heard about the "It Works Wrap"? Its a weight loss thing. Anyways, I have a really good friend who has been selling them, and a cousin that has been selling them. My friend has made an insane amount of money off it, but I've had to block her on facebook because she was constantly using it to advertise. I had a talk with her because several of us in the circle were getting annoyed with it. She then opened a second facebook account to use to sell her product. This plan back fired, because instead of just posting her work stuff to the business account, she would share the statuses on her personal account. I ended up just blocking her. This is one of my really good friends, and I hate that she is hidden from my time line, but I couldn't take it anymore.
My cousin, who I don't really talk to a whole lot, got all pissy with me when I went on a rant about constantly seeing "chunky chicks who used the wrap and became slightly less chunky" on my timeline. seriously, it was constant. She got placed on the block list immediately.
But yeah, not only is it USUALLY a losing proposition to get involved with these stupid schemes, your friends will get fed up with your constant sales tactics. My cousin wears "It Works" tshirts to every family gathering too. Her and her husband.

If she's wearing those t-shirts, at least it means she's not fat, right? I presume that she's a hardbody?

I had shirttail cousin who started doing a similar thing for some diet drink. For about a month she was posting highly contrived stories every day about "My friend Kayla lost 12 inches in three days drinking (insert chemical-laden drink here). She met a man on Tuesday and got engaged on Wednesday, and he loves her new figure!" There were seriously terrible. Since my extended family is all very close except for me, I didn't think it was a good idea to call her out on it, but she mercifully gave up in about a month. I was about a week from de-friending her.

eDave 12-19-2014 03:21 PM

I fell for this a couple of times when I was very young. Cutco knives and a water purifier of some such. Rainbow too.

I was really dumb. Still have my Cutco starter kit though. Awesome knives.

kcfanXIII 12-19-2014 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Cochise (Post 11202653)
What is it with those wrap things? Those people are complete nazis about it, posting every day etc etc. Obviously, common sense tells you that if it's doing anything it's just an illusion, it's not enhancing your workouts or whatever. It's just causing you to sweat off the water weight in that area, so it'll come back when you rehydrate.

There is someone who posts that nonsense on my timeline too, and the ironic thing is that you probably couldn't get any kind of a wrap around her...

Why can't you just saran wrap yourself for the same effect, anyway? Is this like that foot soak that uses a chemical reaction to make you think "toxins" are being drawn out of your foot?

Not sure how they work, I've never tried it, but I've seen its effects on our mutual friends, and it seems to have an effect. Although the ones it works for work out as well.

kcfanXIII 12-19-2014 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 11202710)
If she's wearing those t-shirts, at least it means she's not fat, right? I presume that she's a hardbody?

I had shirttail cousin who started doing a similar thing for some diet drink. For about a month she was posting highly contrived stories every day about "My friend Kayla lost 12 inches in three days drinking (insert chemical-laden drink here). She met a man on Tuesday and got engaged on Wednesday, and he loves her new figure!" There were seriously terrible. Since my extended family is all very close except for me, I didn't think it was a good idea to call her out on it, but she mercifully gave up in about a month. I was about a week from de-friending her.

I don't have high opinions of this particular cousin, as she's always been kind of a snooty bitch. She's not morbidly obese, but don't think she's a "hard body." My other friend that sells it is very attractive, but she works out 7 days a week and stays active.

I don't know if it really works or not. I don't care. Its the spamming I can't stand. When she first started selling it, my girlfriend never wanted to hang out because at some point in the night, we'd hear "you guys should host a wrap party...."

PunkinDrublic 12-19-2014 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Guru (Post 11199949)
My son got swindled into an energy drink scheme. He just refused to listen to me and wasted $160. Vemma

There was a big article about the Vemma scam recently in RS. It's scamming a lot of naive college kids into thinking they can get rich selling those shitty energy drinks. Just another repackaged pyramid scheme.

Rain Man 12-19-2014 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by kcfanXIII (Post 11202841)
I don't have high opinions of this particular cousin, as she's always been kind of a snooty bitch. She's not morbidly obese, but don't think she's a "hard body." My other friend that sells it is very attractive, but she works out 7 days a week and stays active.

I don't know if it really works or not. I don't care. Its the spamming I can't stand. When she first started selling it, my girlfriend never wanted to hang out because at some point in the night, we'd hear "you guys should host a wrap party...."

Hosting a wrap party sounds like it would be fun if the women we were wrapping weren't fat. Is there a wrap product that makes attractive women even more attractive?

Now that I think about it, that would be a huge market. "I was an 8, with nice breasts and a pleasant face. But after using Beauty Wrap for a week, I'm now a 9 with a great derriere and fantastic breasts!"

007 12-19-2014 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by eDave (Post 11202766)
I fell for this a couple of times when I was very young. Cutco knives and a water purifier of some such. Rainbow too.

I was really dumb. Still have my Cutco starter kit though. Awesome knives.

Cutco back in the day was worth every penny. These days they are grossly overpriced.

007 12-19-2014 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by PunkinDrublic (Post 11203005)
There was a big article about the Vemma scam recently in RS. It's scamming a lot of naive college kids into thinking they can get rich selling those shitty energy drinks. Just another repackaged pyramid scheme.

yeah, I showed him a few articles saying the same but he just wouldn't believe me. Decided to let him learn for himself since he wouldn't trust me on the issue.

PunkinDrublic 12-19-2014 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Guru (Post 11203282)
yeah, I showed him a few articles saying the same but he just wouldn't believe me. Decided to let him learn for himself since he wouldn't trust me on the issue.

If he only lost $160 he got off easy. That's the thing about multilevel marketing. It can work, but do you want to risk losing your friends trying to get them involved in selling a shitty product?


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