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ChiefsCountry 01-08-2015 02:29 PM

St. Louis Raiders?
 
With the Rams one step out the door back to Los Angeles, there has been some rumors starting to float that the Raiders might be looking into the St. Louis market. It's a viable NFL market for sure with the new stadium they are proposing. It would sure put the Raiders rivalry back above the Donks that's for sure.

CaliforniaChief 01-08-2015 02:31 PM

Hasn't the Greater St. Louis area been through enough strife and trouble lately?

Brock 01-08-2015 02:33 PM

God how I hope this happens

ndws 01-08-2015 02:34 PM

only if they can be the Ferguson Raiders

The Franchise 01-08-2015 02:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brock (Post 11251952)
God how I hope this happens

This. Get them the **** out of Oakland please.

Mr. Flopnuts 01-08-2015 02:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brock (Post 11251952)
God how I hope this happens

I've got a semi just thinking about it.

kepp 01-08-2015 02:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ndws (Post 11251955)
only if they can be the Ferguson Raiders

LOL you beat me to it

Chief Roundup 01-08-2015 02:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brock (Post 11251952)
God how I hope this happens

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dicky McElephant (Post 11251959)
This. Get them the **** out of Oakland please.

Why would you hope this would happen, or even be excited about it?

The Franchise 01-08-2015 02:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chief Roundup (Post 11251987)
Why would you hope this would happen, or even be excited about it?

I'm an hour north of Oakland. Get them the **** out of here. I personally don't care WHERE they go.

Brock 01-08-2015 02:46 PM

A 9th home game? Yes plz

Couch-Potato 01-08-2015 02:49 PM

Much more likely they join the Rams in LA.

Side note: Since Rams are leaving for LA, does that mean that Chiefs just doubled their fan base!?

Katipan 01-08-2015 02:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ndws (Post 11251955)
only if they can be the Ferguson Raiders

ROFL

Pablo 01-08-2015 02:55 PM

Just the franchise STL deserves.

LMAO

bevischief 01-08-2015 02:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ndws (Post 11251955)
only if they can be the Ferguson Raiders

This.

Chief Roundup 01-08-2015 03:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Couch-Potato (Post 11251997)
Much more likely they join the Rams in LA.

Side note: Since Rams are leaving for LA, does that mean that Chiefs just doubled their fan base!?

This. It could mean a much larger "market" for the Chiefs.

lcarus 01-08-2015 03:05 PM

I just can't see this happening

chiefzilla1501 01-08-2015 03:06 PM

This would be so bizarre. If you're going to do this, move Oakland to LA and keep the rams in St Louis.

Mr. Flopnuts 01-08-2015 03:07 PM

St Louis Looters?

Lex Luthor 01-08-2015 03:10 PM

Stan Kroenke wants to be hated as much as Robert Irsay, Art Modell and Charlie Finley.

I wish Charlie Finley were still alive so he could die a painful death.

Mr. Flopnuts 01-08-2015 03:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brainiac (Post 11252069)
Stan Kroenke wants to be hated as much as Robert Irsay, Art Modell and Charlie Finley.

I wish Charlie Finley were still alive so he could die a painful death.

ROFL

bevischief 01-08-2015 03:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Der Flöprer (Post 11252057)
St Louis Looters?

ROFL

MahiMike 01-08-2015 03:16 PM

The new I-70 series!

notorious 01-08-2015 03:16 PM

This would be awesome for the rivalry.


All 3 of the teams on the same highway literally a day's drive away.

Sweet.

Rain Man 01-08-2015 03:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chief Roundup (Post 11252037)
This. It could mean a much larger "market" for the Chiefs.

Interestingly, St. Louis is exactly equidistant to both Kansas City and Indianapolis. Google maps lists 3 hours and 43 minutes to both.

crazycoffey 01-08-2015 03:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ndws (Post 11251955)
only if they can be the Ferguson Raiders




ROFL

Pasta Little Brioni 01-08-2015 03:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Couch-Potato (Post 11251997)
Much more likely they join the Rams in LA.

Side note: Since Rams are leaving for LA, does that mean that Chiefs just doubled their fan base!?

No the fans around here are bandwagon pieces of trash. They will be like that gay ass commercial...Steelers Cowboy Packers Broncos Seahawks families

DaneMcCloud 01-08-2015 03:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by notorious (Post 11252092)
This would be awesome for the rivalry.


All 3 of the teams on the same highway literally a day's drive away.

Sweet.

I think it would be awesome for the rivalry, too and would definitely make those games more intense.

I've always thought it was absurd that the Giant-Jets, Oakland-SF, Texans-Dallas, Bucs-Dolphins and Bears-Colts only meet once every few years.

DaneMcCloud 01-08-2015 03:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 11252055)
This would be so bizarre. If you're going to do this, move Oakland to LA and keep the rams in St Louis.

Los Angeles really doesn't want the Raiders.

chiefzilla1501 01-08-2015 03:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 11252135)
Los Angeles really doesn't want the Raiders.

Interesting. Then I stand corrected.

ChiefsCountry 01-08-2015 03:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 11252135)
Los Angeles really doesn't want the Raiders.

You mean the LA Power brokers don't want the Raiders. That's understandable because of their fan base rep and the Davis family. But the popularity numbers, the Raiders still are #1 team in LA. Right ownership group with them and they are the Dallas Cowboys Part II.

ToxSocks 01-08-2015 03:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ndws (Post 11251955)
only if they can be the Ferguson Raiders

LMAO

ToxSocks 01-08-2015 03:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 11252147)
You mean the LA Power brokers don't want the Raiders. That's understandable because of their fan base rep and the Davis family. But the popularity numbers, the Raiders still are #1 team in LA. Right ownership group with them and they are the Dallas Cowboys Part II.

To my understanding, the NFL doesn't want the Raiders in L.A either.

bevischief 01-08-2015 04:19 PM

Do they want the Raiders is the question...

ToxSocks 01-08-2015 04:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bevischief (Post 11252214)
Do they want the Raiders is the question...

No.

From what i've heard, they're not interested in the Raiders, and the NFL doesn't want them there either.

L.A is obviously a massive market, and the NFL missed the boat in prior attempts and doesn't want any **** ups again. They can't afford to have another failed franchise in the west coast's largest market.

The NFL wants to put a team in place with stable ownership that they can manipulate and work with. Mark Davis doesn't fit that description.

Dave Lane 01-08-2015 04:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brock (Post 11251952)
God how I hope this happens

This. How about the Ferguson Raiders?

sd4chiefs 01-08-2015 04:25 PM

If the Rams move to LA I would think that the Chargers could share the stadium with them. It would be a win win for both teams.

ToxSocks 01-08-2015 04:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sd4chiefs (Post 11252231)
If the Rams move to LA I would think that the Chargers could share the stadium with them. It would be a win win for both teams.

Unless you're a fan of the SAN DIEGO Chargers.....

cosmo20002 01-08-2015 05:00 PM

If they ever put a team back in LA, what will NFL teams use as a threat to make cities give them what they want?

notorious 01-08-2015 05:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cosmo20002 (Post 11252294)
If they ever put a team back in LA, what will NFL teams use as a threat to make cities give them what they want?

Oklahoma City!



(I kid, I kid)

Deberg_1990 01-08-2015 05:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by notorious (Post 11252299)
Oklahoma City!



(I kid, I kid)

The NFL is sort of running out of cities big enough to maintain an NFL franchise. Its one of the reasons they are looking overseas.

Coochie liquor 01-08-2015 05:32 PM

As if the murder rate isn't high enough in St Louis. Mix in Raiders fans and would become more deadly than the slums of Haiti.

BigChiefFan 01-08-2015 05:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by notorious (Post 11252299)
Oklahoma City!



(I kid, I kid)

That'd be great.

displacedinMN 01-08-2015 06:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chief Roundup (Post 11252037)
This. It could mean a much larger "market" for the Chiefs.

Would that make the Chiefs "the main game" for the STL market?

Eureka 01-08-2015 06:08 PM

Just say NO to that BS. They might as well move to LA

HonestChieffan 01-08-2015 06:24 PM

That could work.

GloucesterChief 01-08-2015 06:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cosmo20002 (Post 11252294)
If they ever put a team back in LA, what will NFL teams use as a threat to make cities give them what they want?

San Antonio/Austin
Portland
Hampton Roads/Richmond, VA
Salt Lake City

cosmo20002 01-08-2015 06:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GloucesterChief (Post 11252465)
San Antonio/Austin
Portland
Hampton Roads/Richmond, VA
Salt Lake City

Are those really viable places? SA/Austin is Dallas's backyard and I would think Jerah would fight against it.
Richmond seems way to close to DC and Baltimore, plus Charlotte
Is Portland too close to Seattle?
Salt Lake City--I guess, but I've never heard it mentioned before.

How about Las Vegas?

Simply Red 01-08-2015 07:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MahiMike (Post 11252089)
The new I-70 series!



http://i.imgur.com/j1UGIt1.jpg

KChiefs1 01-08-2015 07:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ndws (Post 11251955)
only if they can be the Ferguson Raiders


Perfect!

ChiefsCountry 01-08-2015 07:10 PM

Top 30 TV Markets without NFL franchises (excluding Los Angeles)
#19 Orlando
#20 Sacramento
#22 Portland
#27 Raleigh-Durham
#30 Hartford

Top 50 Markets without NFL franchises
#32 Columbus
#33 Salt Lake City
#36 Greenville
#37 San Antonio
#38 West Palm Beach
#39 Grand Rapids
#40 Birmingham
#41 Harrisburg
#42 Las Vegas
#43 Norfolk-Virginia Beach
#44 Albuquerque
#45 Oklahoma City
#46 Greensboro
#48 Memphis
#49 Austin
#50 Louisville

#19 The NFL actually considers Orlando a part of Jacksonville's tv market.

#27, #36, #46 Those are all Carolinas cities, makes the Panthers a bigger market than what their tv market is.

#38 is North Miami basically.

Deberg_1990 01-08-2015 07:13 PM

The Norfolk-Virginia Beach Raiders!

alpha_omega 01-08-2015 07:20 PM

Yes, double the hate.

Chief Roundup 01-08-2015 07:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 11252096)
Interestingly, St. Louis is exactly equidistant to both Kansas City and Indianapolis. Google maps lists 3 hours and 43 minutes to both.

Hopefully most would rather stay in-state than go out of state for their football experience.

kccrow 01-08-2015 08:31 PM

The only real void in the NFL market map is Albuquerque. Stick em near the desert and call it a day.

Rams Fan 01-08-2015 09:09 PM

Boo.

Pasta Little Brioni 01-08-2015 09:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rams Fan (Post 11252677)
Boo.

Who would u cheer for in the odd occurrence it happens?

Rams Fan 01-08-2015 09:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pasta Giant Meatball (Post 11252678)
Who would u cheer for in the odd occurrence it happens?

No clue.

Tombstone RJ 01-08-2015 09:19 PM

How does Missouri have two NFL teams to begin with? I'd make way more sense for TX to have 3 teams than for Missouri to have two teams. Missouri, lol...

Tombstone RJ 01-08-2015 09:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GloucesterChief (Post 11252465)
San Antonio/Austin
Portland
Hampton Roads/Richmond, VA
Salt Lake City

Utah is Broncos country...

Rams Fan 01-08-2015 09:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tombstone RJ (Post 11252686)
How does Missouri have two NFL teams to begin with? I'd make way more sense for TX to have 3 teams than for Missouri to have two teams. Missouri, lol...

KC can financially support 2 teams. STL might be pushing it at 3, but it can support a football team.

ChiefsCountry 01-08-2015 09:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tombstone RJ (Post 11252686)
How does Missouri have two NFL teams to begin with? I'd make way more sense for TX to have 3 teams than for Missouri to have two teams. Missouri, lol...

St. Louis and Kansas City are large enough metropolitan areas you dipshit.

Rams Fan 01-08-2015 09:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chief Roundup (Post 11252037)
This. It could mean a much larger "market" for the Chiefs.

Interestingly enough, in my unprofessional opinion, there are more Bears fans than any other team aside from the Rams.

Rams Fan 01-08-2015 09:38 PM

It's amazing how Denver can support a football team. I mean, they have 7 Fortune 500 companies. That's less than St. Louis' 9. No way in hell Denver can support a football team, right?

ChiefsCountry 01-08-2015 09:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rams Fan (Post 11252708)
Interestingly enough, in my unprofessional opinion, there are more Bears fans than any other team aside from the Rams.

That would be I assume imports from Central Illinois who moved there. St. Louis was pretty Chief heavy between the Cards and Rams time. Chiefs even played a preseason game there (which if the Rams moved, they would be smart to again)

Rams Fan 01-08-2015 09:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 11252715)
That would be I assume imports from Central Illinois who moved there. St. Louis was pretty Chief heavy between the Cards and Rams time. Chiefs even played a preseason game there (which if the Rams moved, they would be smart to again)

That probably has a large part to do with it as well as the majority of St. Louis citizens having a negative opinion of KC and all of Missouri west of Jeff City/Columbia.

cdcox 01-08-2015 09:48 PM

Optimum move for the NFL:

Rams and Raiders to LA

Chiefs to StL. Keep those sucker KC peeps in the fold, while holing on to the bigger StL market. Genious.

Psyko Tek 01-08-2015 09:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 11252234)
Unless you're a fan of the SAN DIEGO Chargers.....

We should ask Buck, cause as far as I know he is THE ONLY Chargers fan

Mr_Tomahawk 01-08-2015 10:32 PM

@JasonLaCanfora: City of St Louis will unveil a new NFL stadium plan at a press conference at noon local time tomorrow

sd4chiefs 01-08-2015 10:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 11252234)
Unless you're a fan of the SAN DIEGO Chargers.....

The Chargers will never get a new stadium in San Diego.

bevischief 01-09-2015 12:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr_Tomahawk (Post 11252772)
@JasonLaCanfora: City of St Louis will unveil a new NFL stadium plan at a press conference at noon local time tomorrow

Pigs do fly...

ChiefsCountry 01-09-2015 12:13 AM

Here is some interesting reading about the time when the Cardinals moved to Phoenix about a proposed dome where the Amphitheatre is now.
http://www.stltoday.com/sports/footb...189187674.html
http://www.nytimes.com/1988/04/27/us...bean-seed.html

Really interesting is that some of the ideas for that stadium is what they got in Phoenix all those years later.

alpha_omega 01-09-2015 07:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr_Tomahawk (Post 11252772)
@JasonLaCanfora: City of St Louis will unveil a new NFL stadium plan at a press conference at noon local time tomorrow

Loser Stadium would be a good name for it.

Pasta Little Brioni 01-09-2015 08:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tombstone RJ (Post 11252686)
How does Missouri have two NFL teams to begin with? I'd make way more sense for TX to have 3 teams than for Missouri to have two teams. Missouri, lol...

You are really really dumb.

Pasta Little Brioni 01-09-2015 08:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rams Fan (Post 11252708)
Interestingly enough, in my unprofessional opinion, there are more Bears fans than any other team aside from the Rams.

Disagree. Have met WAY more Chief fans.
After that is Bears followed by Colts and then whatever team has Peyton or the hottest team that year for the bandwagoners.

ChiefsCountry 01-09-2015 03:21 PM

http://stlouis.cbslocal.com/2015/01/...n-missourians/

Rams Fan 01-09-2015 03:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 11253696)

I like it. Opens the EJD up to more conventions.

Dayze 01-09-2015 03:40 PM

thank god....open air stadium.


HATE domes.

ChiefsCountry 01-09-2015 03:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rams Fan (Post 11253725)
I like it. Opens the EJD up to more conventions.

Seems like a solid plan really. I like the location. Get rid of a bunch of trashy buildings and clean that area up. Laclede's Landing is a cool area, I've a had ton of fun down there.

Easy 6 01-09-2015 04:00 PM

Worst idea I've heard in a looong time, theres probably less than a 0% chance of this being even halfway true... it doesnt make any sense whatsoever.

ILChief 01-09-2015 04:10 PM

Raiders to St. Louis?

Pro- easy Chiefs game for me to attend every year
Con - Chiefs will never be on local TV for me
Con - my area could be overridden with new Raider fans


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