Mariota sucks ! Why is he ranked #1 ?
 

My god !

Yes?

He's playing a stud defense with NFL speed.


Mariotta is decent , but not amazing.

He's no JFF, Hog.

So, enjoying the game?

Not everyone can be Sanchez.

Sorry.

Peyton Manning is a better QB than Tom Brady.

His best two receivers aren't available tonight

Bridgewateresque, yes?

16/21 currently. 178 yds. 8.4 avg. 1TD. It's not yet half. Oh, and fumbles and dropped passes (with one of his WR out).

How, exactly, is he sucking?

Didn't know that. That will make a diff.

He's obviously missed 5 passes.

And there have been 2 absolutely horrendous drops. Game changers.

Because Manziel is so awesome. :rolleyes:

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That he is !

Oh, and Cleveland Browns.

i know he won't drop....but if he did, do you think reid/dorsey would take him?

The stupid on this forum.

Oh I meant 'Manzielesque, right?'

I get some of you homers mixed up.

Of course maybe

And step on Matt Cassel's toes? I think not.

How's his long ball, does he have a decent arm?

Hog farmer is still just pissed about Jonny foosball

Dude throws nearly everything within a couple of yards of the LOS and lofts an occasional lollipop to a WR downfield if the DB bites on the underneath stuff, and he's wide open. He doesn't fire the ball into tight windows.

Not worth the risk.

Arm strength is his biggest negative.

He has tonight a couple of times. Late each time. IIRC.

So, his receivers are "Alex Smith" open?

LMAO

He's had two big passes dropped...

Plug and play. Give two seconds for him

Why would that be. Didn't you see that 80 yard drive he made against the Bills ? He showed more on that one drive than Alex smiff showed all year.

Troll thread

You've done gone mad.

People that have him ranked #1 have downgraded Winston because of his off field issues. Winston's the better prospect from a talent aspect.

I haven't watched a ton of Oregon games but the last 2 I have seen him make big plays down field and he has 2 massive drops on longer passes that are game changers right now.

Heh he is trolling the shit out of a lot of people. LMAO

Sure, but at least it's not Brady/Manning stuff....

Just wait...

All the usual dickhead "experts" in the media who have hyped him as 1.1 will suddenly change their opinions on him...after the NFL scouts at the combine leak that his stock is falling. There will be talk that he could even be the third QB taken. Then, someone will grab him too high because...QB.

I'm sorry but black QB's just don't pan out for some reason . Just as white running backs don't pan out. Wide recievers and cornerbacks have to be black but safeties can be white. It's just the way it is.

One drop was a five yard pass on third and three. The other was a lollipop to a WIDE OPEN WR. He's a Colt McCoy type.

I won't pretend I'm an expert, but I just don't see NFL throws coming from him.

3 kittens are no longer part of this world

Good. I've wanted to express this opinion as well but didn't want it to come across like Rush. But it's been true. I want a white guy at QB.

Don't care about other position's races.

Winston throws a shitty ball.

Reminds me of Sanchez at the same stage.

ROFL exactly

Pretty sure that's racist !

Shit just got really stupid

Why you say that ?

What up Saul?

I wasn't a fan of the throw.

WR actually was wide open.

That being said Marriotta isn't Luck but he far from sucks. I would take him before Winston all day every day.

Saccopoo is down on Winston. So that means that Winston will succeed admirably at the NFL level, correct? :Poke:

Lol.he was


I don't think he sucks but I would have liked to see more zip on that ball and out a little farther in front.

Besides character, why?

I should start a thread with that one. Oy vey.

Besides character? How many bad charachter QB's have ever worked out?

If he was a WR or RB, maybe. To be a QB brains are as much an asset as physical ability. Character equals lack of brains.

Leaf, George, Russell, look at early big bust QB's, lack of physical ability is not the issue, ever.

Dan Marino
John Elway
Brett Favre

Peyton Manning rubbed his ass in a female trainers face.

Cam Newton had a couple of scandals.

Ben Roethlisberger raped a woman.

Making mistakes doesn't always equal lack of brains.

Stanford, ND, and Vandy offers

yeah he cracks me up

Todd Blackledge
Tyler Palko
Trent Green

You're going to pretend that was a good throw? Dude was running down the middle of the field with blown coverage, and the throw was well behind him.

Don't waste your time. One thing that sucks about football is that te fans put 100% of the blame on the QB, like clockwork

In KC it never will be. Better to waste picks on fatties just to be sure we don't waste them on QBs

I doubt this game hurts Mariota Stakes in the draft if he comes out. He was overwhelmed buy superior athletes across the board. This happens in College. I do think there may be some questions on arm strength and accuracy. He will need a great pro day to be top of the draft.

He'll be at the top. He protects the ball so well and that's a valuable skill, whereas Winston doesn't. He's 6-4 220 and he's smart and he's not a behavior risk/liked by teammates. He will go 1

Want to place a wager on that?

I'm not impressed with Mariota or Winston. However, if the Chiefs had the top pick I'm sure I would talk myself into to believing one of them could be worth a shit

How many more years before Andrew Luck talent comes out?

97 years

I'd take Winston and Jones before Mariota. Mariota is a work in progress, IMO, whereas Winston and Jones could start from day one and improve over the course of the season.

the nfl is full of great players who were bad characters


there's a reason Pittsburgh has superbowls and a rapist QB and we have Alex Smith and nothing...

running ability in college shouldn't be considered at all when evaluating QBs for the NFL. It's a bonus.

too often it doesn't translate because if the prospect cannot throw the ball at the nfl leve the defenses just shut the run down completely.

scouts have to be concerned about Mariota

FYP to make it less crazy.

You don't think that Cardale Jones is ready to start? I do. He's a beast. He's been extremely impressive.

Now, I'm not saying he'd pull a Big Ben and lead a team to a 15-1 record but whoever drafts him is going to get a helluva QB that will improve over the course of the season.

He has played three games and in those games he had a running back break records in each game. I'm not saying he can't be successful, but nothing I've seen so far screams "first round draft pick".

I haven't seen him make throws into tight windows or anticipate receivers coming open and throwing to a spot. I have seen him throw a few nice deep balls that his receivers have made great catches on and I've seen him use his feet to extend drives and plays.

He threw plenty of balls into tight windows, and he did it with pressure from the defense. That said, I would be freaking stunned if he was an immediate starter in the league.

Winston will go #1. Don't know if either will start immediately.

I have to disagree. Great arm, good decisions, tough to bring down. He's 6'4 230, which is really good sized for a QB and good mobility.

Despite the fact that he's only started three games, two of which were championship games that he won handily, he reminds me a lot of Big Ben during his Miami of Ohio days.

I think a QB needy teams like the Jets, Bills, Texans, Browns, Bucs and Titans have probably begun their due diligence on him. If he lasts until #18, I'd be unbelievably stoked if the Chiefs took him.

If Winston doesn't start day one, then Lovie should be fired on the spot.

That would be a mistake. Mariota still looks like the best QB in this draft.