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gblowfish 02-13-2015 04:14 PM

Exciting Mizzou Tiger Basketball!
 
The good news: Got a call from my pal Gary and we have tickets on Tiger Row for tomorrow's MU-MSU game in Columbia. Tiger Row is right along the sideline, straight across from the Mizzou Bench. Killer seats, right up front.

The bad news: I have to watch 2015 Mizzou Basketball.

Oh well, at least the beer will be cold in Columbia. Go Tigers!

BlackHelicopters 02-13-2015 04:15 PM

Prayers sent

TrebMaxx 02-13-2015 04:25 PM

My condolences.

alpha_omega 02-13-2015 04:31 PM

Shit man, you get all the good seats.

Prison Bitch 02-13-2015 04:37 PM

You're favored by 2 in Pomeroy (Kenpom.com)

Pasta Little Brioni 02-13-2015 05:30 PM

So two people will be in attendance. (Prison Bitch is obsessed so of course he will be there)

Old Dog 02-13-2015 05:42 PM

Damn!!!
First Fire Me Boy, then Mikey, now George.....They say terrible things happen in threes, hopefully this is all the bad for CP for a while.

KCwolf 02-13-2015 05:46 PM

What Really happened to Mizzou Bball?

'Hamas' Jenkins 02-13-2015 06:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KCwolf (Post 11325629)
What Really happened to Mizzou Bball?

1) Mike Alden cannot hire a basketball coach to save his life

2) Because Alden ****ed up so colossally and embarrassingly with the Snyder hire, he turned into a micromanager, which made no coaches want to work for him.

3)Dumb **** blue hair alumni thought that the Norm years were something to aspire to rather than long stretches of mediocrity interspersed with some nice regular season records and a horrendous tournament record. Thus, they think that Norm's last lead assistant, who couldn't recruit a straight man to dive on a naked Kate Upton, would somehow be able to recruit to players despite not having been at this level since his Freshmen were wearing Pull-Ups.

Long story short--Norm had problems with a lot of black players. His "True Son" can't relate to them worth a damn either, and rather than try to bridge a gap in age and culture he continually utters offensively ignorant and out of touch platitudes while being wholly unable to actually do the one thing he was praised for--draw up an intelligible offensive or defensive scheme.

Because the vast majority of Mizzou fans are mouth-breathing idiots who yearn for the nostalgia of mediocrity, they applaud this pathetic and transparent act of "discipline" (which is really closer to unintentional racism), acting like it is going to accomplish anything other than a mass exodus of talent and make sure that nothing beyond MIAA to OVC talent comes here in the future.

Basically, Kim Anderson is the neutron bomb that the True Son set detonated over Columbia. Yeah, you don't see any physical damage to the facilities, but the program will shortly be depopulated of anything resembling a DI basketball player.

Given the relative level of talent on this team (they have more 4 star players than they have since 2002-3), Anderson should and likely will go down as the worst coach in the history of both revenue sports at Mizzou, even though none of the aforementioned mouth breathers will ever admit it.

He will never win more than 18 games in any season here.

From a Kansas perspective: imagine if you took the personal skills of Mark Mangino along with the tactical and recruiting incompetence of Turner Gill (along with the wholly misguided disciplinary priorities). Now, imagine that the hire was also driven by affiliations with an overrated prior regime (like say the Chiefs hiring Kurt Schottenheimer).

That's Kim Anderson. The mere thought of him makes me want to vomit.

BryanBusby 02-13-2015 07:10 PM

Mike Alden got a life raft when Haith left and he proceeded to choke on his own tie that he mistook for a fruit rollup.

TribalElder 02-13-2015 07:21 PM

For 20 bucks you might be able to play a few minutes

Bowser 02-13-2015 07:41 PM

"Exciting Mizzou Tiger Basketball!"

http://rs1img.memecdn.com/mission-im...u_o_208688.jpg

HonestChieffan 02-13-2015 09:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KCwolf (Post 11325629)
What Really happened to Mizzou Bball?

Really talented kids don't want to go to Columbia?

stonedstooge 02-13-2015 09:21 PM

Team has absolutely no rhythm. I'd start running them fast break

ROYC75 02-14-2015 08:37 AM

I see George is easily amused.

Hey George, rumor has it MU is giving away free beer to boost attendance numbers. At halftime they are showing a film on Quinn Snyder accomplishments.

Pepe Silvia 02-14-2015 04:48 PM

They got their asses whipped by the Fighting Rick Rays. ROFL

George Liquor 02-14-2015 06:04 PM

I feel your pain. I go to several KU football games a year.

Prison Bitch 02-14-2015 10:29 PM

http://morecoloringpages.com/practic...count-draw.gif

GloryDayz 02-14-2015 10:41 PM

No "good" kid wants to play for this abortion of a program.

Because college ball is SOOOOOOO heavily dependent upon recruiting, MIZZOU may never fight their way out of this hole.

Prison Bitch 02-14-2015 10:51 PM

Lol. It's the easiest sport to turn around quickly

George Liquor 02-14-2015 10:52 PM

If Baylor can do it, anyone can.

Pepe Silvia 02-14-2015 11:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 11327018)
Lol. It's the easiest sport to turn around quickly

Very true, its not like football, in basketball it only takes 2-3 solid players to turn things around but Glorydays is also correct, kids don't want to play for Mizzou and therefore they will never get out of the hole.

'Hamas' Jenkins 02-14-2015 11:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PackerinMo (Post 11327055)
Very true, its not like football, in basketball it only takes 2-3 solid players to turn things around but Glorydays is also correct, kids don't want to play for Mizzou and therefore they will never get out of the hole.

Do you think kids were screaming to go to Wichita State or Butler ten years ago? Notice how Memphis and UMass shriveled up once Calipari left? Duke was a damned joke before K got there.

If you hire the right coach you can build a solid basketball program. Unfortunately for us, Missouri hired the only human being I've seen who could destroy a men's collegiate athletics program faster than Title IX.

In fact, that's what I'm calling him from now on: Title IX, or TIX.

Pepe Silvia 02-14-2015 11:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 11327066)
Do you think kids were screaming to go to Wichita State or Butler ten years ago? Notice how Memphis and UMass shriveled up once Calipari left? Duke was a damned joke before K got there.

If you hire the right coach you can build a solid basketball program. Unfortunately for us, Missouri hired the only human being I've seen who could destroy a men's collegiate athletics program faster than Title IX.

In fact, that's what I'm calling him from now on: Title IX, or TIX.

That's the problem right there though, they can't hire the right people. I wouldn't feel so hopeless right now if I had the smallest shred of faith that they can get a solid coach here but they've proven they can't get it done.

Sweet Daddy Hate 02-15-2015 08:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 11325691)
1) Mike Alden cannot hire a basketball coach to save his life

2) Because Alden ****ed up so colossally and embarrassingly with the Snyder hire, he turned into a micromanager, which made no coaches want to work for him.

3)Dumb **** blue hair alumni thought that the Norm years were something to aspire to rather than long stretches of mediocrity interspersed with some nice regular season records and a horrendous tournament record. Thus, they think that Norm's last lead assistant, who couldn't recruit a straight man to dive on a naked Kate Upton, would somehow be able to recruit to players despite not having been at this level since his Freshmen were wearing Pull-Ups.

Long story short--Norm had problems with a lot of black players. His "True Son" can't relate to them worth a damn either, and rather than try to bridge a gap in age and culture he continually utters offensively ignorant and out of touch platitudes while being wholly unable to actually do the one thing he was praised for--draw up an intelligible offensive or defensive scheme.

Because the vast majority of Mizzou fans are mouth-breathing idiots who yearn for the nostalgia of mediocrity, they applaud this pathetic and transparent act of "discipline" (which is really closer to unintentional racism), acting like it is going to accomplish anything other than a mass exodus of talent and make sure that nothing beyond MIAA to OVC talent comes here in the future.

Basically, Kim Anderson is the neutron bomb that the True Son set detonated over Columbia. Yeah, you don't see any physical damage to the facilities, but the program will shortly be depopulated of anything resembling a DI basketball player.

Given the relative level of talent on this team (they have more 4 star players than they have since 2002-3), Anderson should and likely will go down as the worst coach in the history of both revenue sports at Mizzou, even though none of the aforementioned mouth breathers will ever admit it.

He will never win more than 18 games in any season here.

From a Kansas perspective: imagine if you took the personal skills of Mark Mangino along with the tactical and recruiting incompetence of Turner Gill (along with the wholly misguided disciplinary priorities). Now, imagine that the hire was also driven by affiliations with an overrated prior regime (like say the Chiefs hiring Kurt Schottenheimer).

That's Kim Anderson. The mere thought of him makes me want to vomit.

Wow. What happened to the coach that won the 12 a lifetime ago?

GloryDayz 02-15-2015 09:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 11327018)
Lol. It's the easiest sport to turn around quickly

I hope you're right, but this is MIZZOU. The only bright note is that with MA's departure, "stupid" just left the room. The challenge now is, does "stupid" get replaced with "'tard"? Time will tell.

gblowfish 02-15-2015 11:20 AM

Well, we only lost by three, but still disappointing that they couldn't win at home. My general observations:

1) This team has no low block presence. None. Rosburg is the world's largest flightless mammal. He plays like he has oven mitts on his hands. He can tip balls out, but he can't rebound. He can't position to rebound. He can't drive. He has no post moves. And still, he had a career game yesterday because MSU was terrible defending the rim. The Canadian dude Post had two fouls in the first four minutes, so Rosburg played most of the first half. Those two combined are basically the Haley twins without the rebounding ability.

2) Mizzou has no outside shooters. None. I was watching Gill-Caesar, Bello and Wright during warm ups. None of them could hit a jump shot from anywhere. I mean they literally missed about 90 percent of their shots in warm ups. And that's unguarded. In the KC Star this AM, it said Gill-Caesar and Wright were a combined 3 of 15 from the field, 1 of 9 from 3-point and 1 of 4 from the stripe.

3) The only players who looked like they belonged in a D1 NCAA game were Williams 3 and Shamburger. Shamburger is not a a good point guard. He never hits a cutter, he can't drive to draw the defense and dish. He's just a very average shooting guard. He can shoot a little, but not enough to carry the whole team. Williams 3 had a career game. They ignored him the whole first half, and he had a monster second half or Mizzou isn't in the game. Not even close.

4) Mizzou was 14 of 21 from the stripe. Not near good enough. If they hit four more free throws, they potentially win.

5) I can't name one thing that this team does well. I don't put this on Kim Anderson. But I can't see where he gets more than maybe two years to turn this around. Very important that he recruits for next year. They have to win at least a few home games. If they don't show some improvement, whoever the new AD is, may want to bring in his own guy. Mizzou only has two guys from Missouri on the current roster, seems like Anderson should have a better shot at recruiting players in-state.

Oh, I did see Jeremy Maclin and Chase Daniel. I pleaded with Maclin to sign with KC and gave him the chop. He just smiled and waved.

Here's some pics from my seat yesterday. Even though we lost, me and the boys had a very good time and it was a nice day.

http://i61.tinypic.com/26rus.jpg

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http://i61.tinypic.com/2ziakhk.jpg

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Simply Red 02-15-2015 11:22 AM

Any good games on today? Pretty uneventful Sunday planned - supposed to get ice storm Monday night. When that happens here in Georgia - forget about doing ANYthing. LOL

'Hamas' Jenkins 02-15-2015 11:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gblowfish (Post 11327334)
Well, we only lost by three, but still disappointing that they couldn't win at home. My general observations:

1) This team has no low block presence. None. Rosburg is the world's largest flightless mammal. He plays like he has oven mitts on his hands. He can tip balls out, but he can't rebound. He can't position to rebound. He can't drive. He has no post moves. And still, he had a career game yesterday because MSU was terrible defending the rim. The Canadian dude Post had two fouls in the first four minutes, so Rosburg played most of the first half. Those two combined are basically the Haley twins without the rebounding ability.

2) Mizzou has no outside shooters. None. I was watching Gill-Caesar, Bello and Wright during warm ups. None of them could hit a jump shot from anywhere. I mean they literally missed about 90 percent of their shots in warm ups. And that's unguarded. In the KC Star this AM, it said Gill-Caesar and Wright were a combined 3 of 15 from the field, 1 of 9 from 3-point and 1 of 4 from the stripe.

3) The only players who looked like they belonged in a D1 NCAA game were Williams 3 and Shamburger. Shamburger is not a a good point guard. He never hits a cutter, he can't drive to draw the defense and dish. He's just a very average shooting guard. He can shoot a little, but not enough to carry the whole team. Williams 3 had a career game. They ignored him the whole first half, and he had a monster second half or Mizzou isn't in the game. Not even close.

4) Mizzou was 14 of 21 from the stripe. Not near good enough. If they hit four more free throws, they potentially win.

5) I can't name one thing that this team does well. I don't put this on Kim Anderson. But I can't see where he gets more than maybe two years to turn this around. Very important that he recruits for next year. They have to win at least a few home games. If they don't show some improvement, whoever the new AD is, may want to bring in his own guy. Mizzou only has two guys from Missouri on the current roster, seems like Anderson should have a better shot at recruiting players in-state.

Oh, I did see Jeremy Maclin and Chase Daniel. I pleaded with Maclin to sign with KC and gave him the chop. He just smiled and waved.

Here's some pics from my seat yesterday. Even though we lost, me and the boys had a very good time and it was a nice day.


4)

George,

Glad you enjoyed yourself. A few things in response, though:

1) The Haley twins may not have been good, or even decent, but it is an affront to compare them to Rosburg in any form. He's the worst player I've ever seen get consistent minutes for Missouri. I don't even know who else would be in his galaxy of incompetence.

2) The inconsistent effort and terrible defense is largely on Kim Anderson, as is the team's lack of any chemistry.

3) He can't recruit at all. They have three recruits signed for next year. Two are in-state. One, Cullen Van Lear, is a homeless man's Ricky Kreklow whose next best offer was Wofford. Terrence Phillips can't do anything but pass. He may never score ten points in a college game. Puryear could be a decent role player/marginal starter at SF.

Jimmy Whitt is a 6'4" PG, the best player in the state and goes to Hickman and didn't even look at Missouri all that seriously.

In fact, of the top five players in the state, one went to Arkansas (Whitt), two are going to Indiana, one to Wichita State, and the other is undecided.

Jayson Tatum, who plays at Chaminade, might be the #1 recruit in the nation next year. There is a less-than-zero chance he signs with Missouri.

In 2017, Michael Porter, whose parents both work in Mizzou athletics, will likely be a top 3-5 national recruit. There is also zero chance he goes to Mizzou.

We may want to play golf, but we are 15 minutes into a hurricane. The only thing we can do is batten down the hatches and ride out the ****ing disaster, hoping it gets over as soon as possible.

I would expect the team to lose almost half of Isabell, Wright, Gant, Clark, and Williams for next year, possibly more.

There is no way to properly categorize how awful of a coach this guy is. He wasn't fit to be a lead assistant in his mid 40's. He is as tone deaf a coach as you will ever find.

gblowfish 02-15-2015 11:58 AM

I'm willing to give Anderson some time, I think he's got a decent staff of guys working for him. The wild card is who becomes the new AD, and whether he has any confidence in Anderson or not.

'Hamas' Jenkins 02-15-2015 12:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gblowfish (Post 11327429)
I'm willing to give Anderson some time, I think he's got a decent staff of guys working for him. The wild card is who becomes the new AD, and whether he has any confidence in Anderson or not.

Fuller it out after this year and isn't even really recruiting much of anyone. Fulford hasn't shown any ability to connect with players beyond his Huntington connections, and even then, he hasn't made any real inroads with the elite players from that program.

Brad Loos never elevated himself beyond a DII assistant before Anderson took him to Columbia.

In all honesty, the staff itself is shaping up horribly.

gblowfish 02-15-2015 12:13 PM

Man Hamas, you're harshing my buzz, man. Hope you're not right, but you probably are.

KChiefs1 02-15-2015 12:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 11327018)
Lol. It's the easiest sport to turn around quickly


Agreed.

KChiefs1 02-15-2015 12:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 11327456)
Fuller it out after this year and isn't even really recruiting much of anyone. Fulford hasn't shown any ability to connect with players beyond his Huntington connections, and even then, he hasn't made any real inroads with the elite players from that program.



Brad Loos never elevated himself beyond a DII assistant before Anderson took him to Columbia.



In all honesty, the staff itself is shaping up horribly.


The new AD will decide the next step(s).

GloryDayz 02-15-2015 01:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KChiefs1 (Post 11327471)
Agreed.

Well with that good news I'll start a Xmas savings account for MIZZOU's Elite-8 appearance in 2016 or 2017. :thumb::thumb::thumb::thumb::thumb::thumb::thumb:

Nzoner 02-16-2015 12:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gblowfish (Post 11325528)
The good news: Got a call from my pal Gary and we have tickets on Tiger Row for tomorrow's MU-MSU game in Columbia. Tiger Row is right along the sideline, straight across from the Mizzou Bench. Killer seats, right up front.

The bad news: I have to watch 2015 Mizzou Basketball.

Oh well, at least the beer will be cold in Columbia. Go Tigers!

I had the good fortune of sitting on Tiger Row for the last ever Big 12 game against KU,it was rocking that night.

duncan_idaho 02-16-2015 12:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 11327456)
Fuller it out after this year and isn't even really recruiting much of anyone. Fulford hasn't shown any ability to connect with players beyond his Huntington connections, and even then, he hasn't made any real inroads with the elite players from that program.

Brad Loos never elevated himself beyond a DII assistant before Anderson took him to Columbia.

In all honesty, the staff itself is shaping up horribly.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/eat-th...Kidz-thumb.JPG

ChiefsCountry 02-16-2015 01:17 PM

Thanks for stealing Van Leer from us. Way to compete in the SEC when you are stealing Valley recruits.

'Hamas' Jenkins 02-16-2015 01:19 PM

You can have the mother****er.

Mosbonian 02-16-2015 04:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 11327372)
George,

Glad you enjoyed yourself. A few things in response, though:

1) The Haley twins may not have been good, or even decent, but it is an affront to compare them to Rosburg in any form. He's the worst player I've ever seen get consistent minutes for Missouri. I don't even know who else would be in his galaxy of incompetence..

While I agree that Rosburg himself is a pathetic player, your vision of him has given you Crappy Center Amnesia......need I remind you of Gary Leonard and Chris Heller?

Discuss Thrower 02-16-2015 05:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 11329341)
Thanks for stealing Van Leer from us. Way to compete in the SEC when you are stealing Valley recruits.

Moats should be offering sloppy wet blowjobs from him and his wife as well as unfettered access to Ms. Moats' ass to get Cuonzo back.

Also, VanLeer would be the 10th man at MSU.

duncan_idaho 02-16-2015 05:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 11329341)
Thanks for stealing Van Leer from us. Way to compete in the SEC when you are stealing Valley recruits.

Please take him, and while you're at it, take the worthless guy who recruited him, too.

Mizzou_8541 02-16-2015 05:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 11327372)
George,

Glad you enjoyed yourself. A few things in response, though:

1) The Haley twins may not have been good, or even decent, but it is an affront to compare them to Rosburg in any form. He's the worst player I've ever seen get consistent minutes for Missouri. I don't even know who else would be in his galaxy of incompetence.

2) The inconsistent effort and terrible defense is largely on Kim Anderson, as is the team's lack of any chemistry.

3) He can't recruit at all. They have three recruits signed for next year. Two are in-state. One, Cullen Van Lear, is a homeless man's Ricky Kreklow whose next best offer was Wofford. Terrence Phillips can't do anything but pass. He may never score ten points in a college game. Puryear could be a decent role player/marginal starter at SF.

Jimmy Whitt is a 6'4" PG, the best player in the state and goes to Hickman and didn't even look at Missouri all that seriously.

In fact, of the top five players in the state, one went to Arkansas (Whitt), two are going to Indiana, one to Wichita State, and the other is undecided.

Jayson Tatum, who plays at Chaminade, might be the #1 recruit in the nation next year. There is a less-than-zero chance he signs with Missouri.

In 2017, Michael Porter, whose parents both work in Mizzou athletics, will likely be a top 3-5 national recruit. There is also zero chance he goes to Mizzou.

We may want to play golf, but we are 15 minutes into a hurricane. The only thing we can do is batten down the hatches and ride out the ****ing disaster, hoping it gets over as soon as possible.

I would expect the team to lose almost half of Isabell, Wright, Gant, Clark, and Williams for next year, possibly more.

There is no way to properly categorize how awful of a coach this guy is. He wasn't fit to be a lead assistant in his mid 40's. He is as tone deaf a coach as you will ever find.

Agree with everything, unfortunately, though many on PM expect Porter to give Mizzou serious consideration for whatever that is worth.

Mizzou_8541 02-16-2015 05:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 11329962)
Please take him, and while you're at it, take the worthless guy who recruited him, too.

Pretty disconcerting when you and Hamas both dislike a guy before he's even on campus. Throw Saul in the mix and you've got the shitty player trifecta.

While I'm far from a guy who can recognize high level talent, Van Leer to me looks far to slow in all he does to compete in D1.

Discuss Thrower 02-16-2015 05:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mizzou_8541 (Post 11329971)
Pretty disconcerting when you and Hamas both dislike a guy before he's even on campus. Throw Saul in the mix and you've got the shitty player trifecta.

While I'm far from a guy who can recognize high level talent, Van Leer to me looks far to slow in all he does to compete in D1.

I saw him play.

He didn't wow me but also playing against one of the best teams in this part of the state soooooooooo.

Mizzou_8541 02-16-2015 05:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower (Post 11329976)
I saw him play.

He didn't wow me but also playing against one of the best teams in this part of the state soooooooooo.

Yeah, I hope to god I'm wrong (I usually am).

ChiefsCountry 02-16-2015 05:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 11329962)
Please take him, and while you're at it, take the worthless guy who recruited him, too.

No MVC school wanted Anderson. The league that is the springboard to top coaching jobs wanted nothing to do with Anderson, even with his resume. That should tell you enough there. Of course its easy to win when at D2 when you are the Texas of D2.

Prison Bitch 02-16-2015 06:30 PM

Only seen a little bit of Mizzou so I don't know the players as well as you but the Williams kid, if he transferred to Kansas would start after Ellis leaves (same player). I'm guessing there are some other at least decent talents in lineup. There are some good players on most P5 teams. Being 6-17 r whatever isn't really acceptable unless you're Texas Tech where nobody cares, they've never won, and recruiting is a nightmare. Or Miss State, Wash State, Va Tech etc.


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