so Tony Romo cleared up $13M in cap space today ...
 

(of course, like JJ Watt and Tom Brady, it means nothing, since they don't lose a single $ in the deal)

...

yet there are no articles on ESPN or Yahoo or anywhere talking about how great of a person this guy is!

GEE

WEIRD

!

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...-for-cap-room/

Keep trying, Hootie. LMAO

so just like JJ Watt?

Romo ain't no Brady.

Hello AP

National media has to maintain the narrative of Romo being a jerk. Makes it easier for people to root against him.

Romo did next to nothing, he actually benefits from it. He gets his entire year's salary upfront in one lump sum.


It's the Cowboys that did this, they are the only ones who lose/pay something.

The guy is lucky Bill Parcells gave him a chance (even though he publicly didn't want to) because the deck was stacked against Romo.

If he goes to another team, who knows if he ever sees the field.

Uhm Romo beat out Drew Henson, the team's glory boy, for 2nd string because he was so good in practice/preseason.

Hell, before Romo even became a starter I watched him play ONE preseason game and I was like, "holy shit." He was actually the talk of the NFL that year. In a 4 QB league in fantasy I took him in one of the final rounds and it was one of the best picks I've ever had.

...he had to put him in for Bledsoe. And as soon as he did, he was an instant star.

Tony Romo is the most underrated QB in NFL history.

when JJ Watt did the same thing he was a front page headline on ESPN and it was dubbed "Watt: The Gift that Keeps on Giving to the Texans."

Half the nfl beat out drew henson.

Must be nice to be a major media market. Get away with murder.

Tony Romo deserves to be hated simply because he is a Cowboy. I don't want anything positive to ever happen for that franchise and I'm really, really cool with Romo getting no positive press for this.

Without question. Put him on a better team in his career than Dallas and he's a no-doubt HOFer.

Why the **** do you care?

LMAO

It's beyond dispute regardless of what any insufferable Boston sports fan wants to believe. The numbers are all there.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2...f-fame-chances

http://cdn.bleacherreport.net/images...jpg?1422407867

Romo has never been underrated.. not ever.

all of this

The irony is that reactions like this are exactly why he's underrated.

To me underrated is winning multiple playoff games (not choking them away), and not being forced down everyone's throats 12 times a year.

The Cowboys have only even played 6 playoff games (2-4) in the Romo era due to their shitty defense. But yeah, it's totally Romo's fault they haven't won more. LMAO

Thanks for proving my point with this unfounded nonsense.

LOL

So, like the other guys, he's done nothing. He didn't take a pay cut.

Yeah, that was media types deep throating.

That's really Hootie's point, though.

Romo's a cheater! He's clearly being paid off under the table!

Tom Brady

So, I'll be the jackass that asks a jackass question.
When players' contracts like this are converted to signing bonuses, how does the team get away with that? Couldn't a team just convert most of their high paid players to signing bonuses and in effect have endless money to use against the salary cap?

I'm sorry, I just really don't understand how the cap situation works with the NFL.

The most underrated QB in history is Kurt Warner. I don't think it's even close. Basically a HOF caliber QB that was so highly thought of he was bagging groceries and playing in the Arena League. Even with the lull in the middle, the guy led three teams to a Super Bowl.

Romo's a victim of his position. QB's are remembered what they did in big moments. And Romo is kind of the anti-Jeter. He's a great QB who just had some big gaffes at bad times. But that's the difference between being remembered like Tony Romo and being remembered like Joe Namath.

For god so loved the world that he gave his only begotten son

https://ethicsbob.files.wordpress.co.../romo-down.jpg

I'd love for someone to show me a playoff game Romo choked away that doesn't include a botched FG snap (cuz that's what starting QBs should be concentrating on...)

translated to: don't use a huge moment that shows he choked one of the few playoff games he had a chance of winning

Name another starting QB who doubled as placeholder ...

Eagerly awaiting

It isn't endless money. It'll all come back around the bend eventually. It saves them more money this year, but will make him cost more against the cap the rest of his contract.

Romo was already going to make (X) amount in signing bonus. His base salary this year would've been $17 million + that original signing bonus number. That's the total cap hit. (Base + bonus)

By converting $16M of that 17 to "signing bonus," they can spread it out evenly. His base salary is now only $1 million + original signing bonus + the $3.2 million of "new" signing bonus. (16M bonus over 5 years of contract = 3.2M/year).

The catch is... that will now be an extra 3.2 cap hit next year. And the next year. And the next year. So his cap number will actually be higher in future years. He still gets the $17 million he was already making, doesn't lose a dime. It just changes the way Dallas files the numbers.

I agree he's not really the choker he's labeled as, but it's not like he's played legendary in the playoffs either.

And I think people bag on him not just for the playoffs... but all the times the Cowboys seem to be playing an elimination game in week 17 and they blew almost every single one of them. It's not all his fault, but it just comes with playing that position. There are still people here who will argue to the death that both Trent Green and Alex Smith failed the Chiefs in the playoffs even though their offenses lit it up.

Tony Romo career regular season (123 games started): 65.2 CMP%, 5.7 TD%, 2.6 INT%, 7.08 ANY/A, 97.6 passer rating
Tom Brady career regular season (207 games started): 63.5 CMP%, 5.5 TD%, 2.0 INT%, 6.95 ANY/A, 95.9 passer rating
Peyton Manning career regular season (256 games started): 65.5 CMP%, 5.9 TD%, 2.6 INT%, 7.27 ANY/A, 97.5 passer rating

Tony Romo career postseason (6 games started): 61.6 CMP%, 4.3 TD%, 1.1 INT%, 5.87 ANY/A, 93.0 passer rating.
Tom Brady career postseason (29 games started): 62.9 CMP%, 4.9 TD%, 2.4 INT%, 6.10 ANY/A, 89.0 passer rating
Peyton Manning career postseason (24 games started): 64.0 CMP%, 4.1 TD%, 2.6 INT%, 6.48 ANY/A, 88.5 passer rating

Doesn't seem like Romo is faring too badly in either the regular season or the postseason, at least if you compare him to two of the greatest QBs of all time.

Russell Wilson.... oh, you meant the other definition of placeholder.

NFC Divisional vs. NY Giants (L 21-17) – The Cowboys were the #1 seed in the NFC and swept the Giants in the regular season. In the first half Romo led two 90+ yard touchdown drives. Dallas led 17-14 to start the fourth quarter. The Giants went ahead 21-17. On the next two drives, Romo was 3/9 for 50 yards, and sacked twice. On his last try, Romo had 1:50 and one timeout left, with the ball at the Giants’ 48. The drive only went 25 yards, and Romo’s last three passes were incomplete, including the interception in the end zone on 4th-and-1 from the Giants’ 23.

Aww I figured romo belchered himself

I once saw Tony rescue a kitten from a tree, what a great person yo.

I still contend that Terry Bradshaw is the most underrated ever.

Sure, he was surrounded by outstanding talent, but those Steelers had to go through somr other outstanding teams, and Bradshaw consistently made big plays in big mome3nts, including outdueling Roger Staubaugh in the SB that still stands as the best ever.

Wow wow wow wow LMAO I was hoping someone brought up the PATRICK CRAYTON game here! This is epic! You fell right into my trap LMAO. I'll get into this game in 15 minutes

AP will get there. Jerry will throw whatever the Vikes want in a trade.

He's so great to take a bonus.

Bart Starr.

The guy was putting up modern rate stats in the 60s when you could all but murder any offensive player. 90 passer ratings, 60+% completion percentages, 8+ YPA.

When you look at guys like Bradshaw and Lenny you have to really adjust for era before the numbers look even tolerable. Starr, OTOH, has numbers that would play all the way through the last decade and he did when cavemen ruled the earth.

Dipshit Clay would just call him a game manager.

SMIFF! LMAO

Let's look into this one a little further:

Tony Romo was the best player on the field for the Dallas Cowboys THE ENTIRE GAME. This is a great example of why playoff losses aren't always on the QB. He was so good this game it was insane.

Our buddy Amnorix likes to tell us the 18-1 game happened because Tom Brady had no pass protection. He's right. The Giants won that game because Tom Brady was pressured all game long. The Giants held the best offense of all time to 14 points. 14. Tom Brady was hit repeatedly all game long.

Guess what these Giants did to Tony Romo? Tony Romo ran for his life this entire game.

He did lead TWO LONG TD drives in the first half, including 1 that left under a minute in the 2nd quarter. What did the Cowboys defense do? They allowed Eli Manning to cut the game to 14-7 by scoring a TD in under a minute in the 2nd quarter. It was a HUGE momentum change.

Nonetheless, the Cowboys were leading 17-14 in the 3rd quarter on a 3rd and long and Tony Romo made the most amazingly clutch play to escape a pass rush and delivered a bullet *DAGGER* pass to Patrick Crayton that hit him in the numbers and would've probably won Dallas the game because he had nothing but daylight ahead of him:

Watch the play here:

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I know, youtube was terrible back then ... but he literally led Crayton into a catch and run for a TD and the dude flat drops it on 3rd and 14.

AND I ABSOLUTELY LOVE THE FOLLOWING COMMENT:

YES

WITH 13 SECONDS LEFT AND NO TIMEOUTS

TONY ROMO THREW A PASS ON 4TH AND 1 (CAN'T PICK UP A 1ST DOWN IN BOUNDS OR GAME IS OVER) INTO THE END ZONE TOWARDS HIS BEST PLAYER (TERRELL OWENS) THAT WAS INTERCEPTED.

Yet, our buddy GoChargers (idiot), decided to put it in a context that concluded Romo was a huge choker for throwing an interception on 4th and 1 in Giants territory with the game on the line.

HE JUST FAILED TO MENTION IT WAS WITH 13 SECONDS LEFT AND THE COWBOYS HAD NO TIMEOUTS TO STOP THE CLOCK SO THE BEST COURSE OF ACTION WAS TO TRY AND GET TERRELL OWENS IN THE END ZONE LIKE STEVE YOUNG ONCE UPON A TIME.

Kind of like the 4th and 1 play this year against Green Bay to Dez that won them the game until the shitty ass Calvin Johnson catch rule came into effect.

I was really hoping someone brought up this game.

TWO THINGS LOST THIS GAME FOR DALLAS (and the Super Bowl for New England since they wouldn't have lost to Dallas or Green Bay)...

1) Allowing Eli Manning to score in the 1st half with only 53 seconds on the clock from the NYG 29. A touchdown nonetheless. This cut the lead from 14-0 to 14-7. HUGE MOMENTUM SWING.

2) The Patrick Crayton drop. Awful. This was a true choke job here.

But thanks for proving my point. Trying to paint this game as a choke job?! Hysterical.

and I'd like to show everyone the botched snap, too:

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First off, this happened with 1:20 left on the clock and would have put Dallas up 23-21.

Are we to say that the Dallas defense would have stopped Matt Hasselbeck (prime Matt Hasselbeck who went on to the Super Bowl) from picking up 45-50 yards and then winning the game themselves on a field goal? That's the hilarious thing to me.

Now, should Parcells have had his PRO BOWL QB (who saved the season for Dallas, by the way) HOLDING FIELD GOALS when he had EVERYTHING ELSE to worry about? I mean, how is this good coaching.

AND LASTLY, TONY ROMO WAS ALMOST A HERO FOR BOTCHING THAT SNAP. YOU KNOW WHO THE REAL BEAST ON THAT PLAY WAS?! THE DEFENDER WHO TRIPPED ROMO UP FROM WHAT I IMAGINE ROMO THOUGHT WAS A SURE TD.

AT LEAST ROMO HAD THE WHEREWITHAL TO PICK UP THE BOTCHED SNAP, NOT FREAK OUT, AND THEN GET INTO THE END ZONE ... A DEFENDER DOVE AT HIM AND SAVED THE GAME FOR SEATTLE.

But again, this is not a choke job. This is bad coaching. And Romo STILL almost bailed them out.

...and let's not forget, even if Dallas went up 23-21 there with 1:15 left. They still only had about a 65% chance to win.

...but everyone wants to paint a convenient narrative

it's embarrassing

Wow, apparently Romo's choking broke Hootie.

you should download the Cowherd podcast today ...

he was just arguing with a caller about Russell Wilson

said Russell Wilson is a FANASTIC QB ... a QB like no one we've ever seen ... and that Seattle wins BECAUSE of Russell Wilson

but I'm sure you're smarter than Colin Cowherd

I'm not dumb enough to BLINDLY reference a playoff game from 2007 and then try and highlight it as if Romo had the biggest choke job ever.

I don't know how old you are (I assume around 20), but I watched that game with great anticipation and it's hilarious to me that you tried to 'pwn' me by bringing that up as a Romo choke.

That was probably the best game I've ever seen Tony Romo play. The numbers don't show it ... but he almost SINGLE-HANDEDLY beat the 'soon to be' champions who made Tom Brady their bitch (18-1) in that Super Bowl.

But really good point, per usual, man!

You're going to hitch your wagon to Cowherd?

That's about as bad an 'appeal to authority' argument I've ever seen. Cowherd's an opinionated talking head that will forcefully make his stance known - that doesn't mean he has any better insight than many here have. He's never worked in football and as far as I know he never played it past high school. He watches football, the same as we do. I'm not sure why I'm supposed to defer to his judgment on anything.

Listen to his show. He's FANTASTIC. I almost never disagree with any of his opinions. Plus, he loves Romo and Wilson.

His show is the best show on sports radio and there isn't a close 2nd (maybe SVP & Russilo but they talk too much college and I hate college)...seriously. Listen to it one morning. He's fantastic.

Hootie, you do love you some QB's that are studs in the regular season.

I am fascinated by the QB position and am a huge fan of those who excel at said position

...other than Tom Brady (because he just gets too much credit)

I never did get the hatred for Romo. Is he elite? No, but he's one rung below and you could certainly win a super bowl with him.

you wanna know why Bob Kraft is a great owner? He put great football people in place and doesn't **** with them.

Jerry Jones had to be talked out of taking Johnny Football last year by the president of his team (oh, his son!!!)

...that's what Romo has had to work with his entire career

It's criminal that Romo won't be in the hall of fame. The Cowboys are the Raiders this past decade without Tony Romo.

The Cowboys are about two steps above the Raiders this past decade WITH Romo.

I always listen to him on my drive in whenever baseball is in a bit of a down period (outside of the hot stove; mid-summer doldrums, etc...), otherwise it's MLB network.

He's opinionated and fairly well spoken. He's not unlike a lot of people I come across daily that can simply state things with enough conviction that you think they come from a place of great knowledge (frankly, I'm actually pretty damn good at that).

That's all well and good, but Cowherd doesn't come from that place. He's just a spectacular salesman. He's ambitious, he's aggressive - he's perfect for talk radio but he's also not someone who I'm going to immediately substitute his judgment for my own because what does being charismatic have to do with being knowledgeable? The guy has no particular bit of knowledge or expertise that makes him more capable of evaluating QBs than I am. He just has a microphone.

You're welcome to back him as someone you routinely agree with, but to say "I'm sure you're smarter than Colin Cowherd" as though the rest of us are supposed to march in lock-step with a particularly good snake-oil salesman is just ridiculous. It's made more obvious why you'd make the argument when you cite the fact that you always agree with him; of course you think he's smart, he thinks the same things you do. It's like liberals that call Limbaugh an idiots or conservatives that call Olberman one. Nope - those are very smart guys that happen to live in their own respective echo-chambers.

Cowherd's a guy that lives in your echo chamber. That doesn't make him smart, it doesn't make him dumb. In no way does that mean I'm going to defer to him on anything.

And all of MLB.

But yet Brady...

how? Despite what you think about mediocrity Romo has always had them in the hunt for that division and he's done that DESPITE having one of the worst owners in professional sports who, instead of supporting the team with FOOTBALL people, who surrounds himself with a bunch of yes men and constantly ****s everything up.

They were on the verge of building a JUGGERNAUT but Parcells left because he finally couldn't take it any more and Phillips ran what Parcells was building into the ground.

I don't disagree with anything you say, man. You're one of my favorite posters on this board.

BUT

You want to know what GoChargers refers to Russell Wilson as? Russell Dilfer.

Russell Wilson had a 91 QBR for the game in the Super Bowl. Tom Brady had an 82.

They were both fantastic.

Yet he wants to parade around here and act like Russell blew the game. It's either trolling or idiocracy. I lean towards idiocracy with him.

The Cowboys have made the playoffs five times since 2003, going 2-5 in that span, never making it past the divisional round. Also in that time, they were .500 or worse five times, and have won the NFC East three times since 2007.

They are certainly better than the Raiders, even the Chiefs, but they aren't even close to being some perennial contender with Tony Romo at the helm.

...and I could only imagine what they'd be without Tony Romo.

Wait...the Raiders.

Which shows how bad the rest of their team has been. You put Romo with a good organization and the entire narrative of his career changes completely. You take Romo away from the Cowboys and they are pretty much the worst team in football over that time.

Facts are hard, bullshit myth narratives are easy.

Well having an oil baron as his GM may have something to do with that.

Tony Romo has not been the reason those teams have struggled at all and in fact he's the only reason they've been as consistently competitive they've been.

Romo's an excellent QB and exactly the kind of guy that so many of you are calling for. He's constantly attacking downfield and because of that he'll make some key turnovers here and there. He's not as mobile as he once was but he plays a lot like Big Ben in that he'll move around the pocket and constantly survey downfield, using his legs to buy just enough time to take the longer shot. On a board where our QB's mere playing style makes him dogshit to many of you, Romo should be worshipped as a God. He plays exactly how you would want and he does it quite well.

I'm telling you right now...

if Tony Romo was the Chiefs starting QB next year the Chiefs would be the best team in the AFC, and arguably the best team in football

The fault with the Cowboys isn't wth romo, he's hidden it. It's with the organization and the structure of it.

You hope that history gives him the Archie Manning treatment.

I suspect it won't.

He's one of the better examples of a great QB stuck in a shitty organization we'll ever see.

Nah! He botched a snap and nearly ran it in for a score anyways but now he'll forever be labeled a choker. Just like Kobe will forever be known as a closer (even though he's never shown this trait, ever). The media presented it that way and the moron public took it and ran.

Seriously, someone will someday have to explain to me why Parcells or anyone on Dallas thought it was a good idea for their starting QB to double down as the placeholder. I get it, when he was backup it was nifty to have the ability to present the idea of a fake. Back in the day, the backup often was the placeholder. I know, I know. That makes sense. But as soon as he became starter why wasn't he replaced? Why was this a good idea?

Regardless, I remember watching the play live and thinking, "omg he's gonna score!" And the DB tripped him up at the last second. It was actually a really exciting play.

But if you're going to call a QB a CHOKER for ****ing up a HOLD on a FG try ...

I hope Anquan Boldin plays in the next Super Bowl, they design a trick play a la Julian Edelman to Danny Amendola and Boldin chucks a pick 6 that loses his team the game and then for the rest of his career we can be like, "omg Anquan Boldin is the biggest WR choker of all time! Can you believe that choke job????"

...or we can ignorantly write a narrative that Romo threw a game ending pick on 4th and 1 and ignore the fact he was on the 23, with 13 seconds left, no timeouts, and he threw the ball to his best player (Terrell Owens) because they had no other options ...

and he did this after Crayton blew the ****ing game

and he did this against the defense that put clown shoes on Tom "Terrific" himself when the Pats were 18-0 2 weeks later in the Super Bowl.

and let's not forget that this year ...

he threw that same 4th and 1 pass to Dez Bryant in the playoffs with the game on the line and Dez went up and made a play and basically caught the potential game winning TD pass (who knows what Rodgers would have answered with, I'm not naive enough to call it a game winner with that much time on the clock but Rodgers has had a terrible history of losing close games in those scenarios)...

Romo was 1 booth review away from potentially playing in the NFC Championship Game against a team he had already beat that season in a year where critics were calling Dallas one of the worst teams in the NFL in the preseason. I kid you not.

Wanna know why they were good last year?

Let me guess! They had a great oline and an awesome running game!

Yep! Typical. Brady doesn't have enough weapons. Romo and Manning always do.

Tom Brady

I couldn't disagree. It would be shocking to this fanbase to have a QB that's actually good, let alone great, though. We'll never be so lucky.

You just cited one of the most overrated QB's of all time as the most underrated QB of all time.

Bradshaw had about as much to do with the Steelers' success as Trent Dilfer did with Baltimore. Difference being, I think Dilfer's stats were a bit better than Bradshaw's. Oh, and Dilfer's receivers were worse.

I'm glad to see Tony finally getting some love. I've been beating the Tony Romo drum to Dallas fans his entire career. They love to blame him for every loss. Even when they lost that game to the Broncos two years ago where the score was something like 49-51, Romo ended it with an INT, so everybody in Texas threw the blame at him. Ridiculous.

First of all, "idiocracy" isn't a word. You might want to brush up on the English language before trying to insult others' intelligence. You might be thinking of "idiocy," which is the perfect description of your takes.

Second of all, I don't have to "act" like Wilson blew the Super Bowl, because he actually did. He was terrible for half the game. He was 3-8 with a 5.1 QBR in the fourth quarter. He threw the biggest choke interception in the history of the Super Bowl. There's zero argument to be made that he didn't blow the game. In fact, the last time you tried to drag me into this debate, you were so thoroughly owned that you threw a tantrum and decided you were "done talking about the Super Bowl."

he had a 90 QBR for the entire game. 90. 90 QBR.

Tom Brady had an 82.

The Patriots held the ball the entire 4th quarter until "the drive."

The one drive the Hawks had Russell was going to hit his guy in stride for a HUGE gain but the Pats DB got away with terrible pass interference by falling down and grabbing the dude's foot and getting away with it.

90 QBR for the entire game.

How can you be "terrible for a half" and have a 90 QBR for the game?

You're a dumb****. Plain and simple.

Super Bowl QBR:

Russell Wilson : 90.8
Tom Brady: 81.1

...

nice try, dip****

http://espn.go.com/nfl/boxscore?gameId=400749027