Knile Davis: No gap between Jamaal Charles and me
 

Knile Davis: No 'gap' between Jamaal Charles and me

By Marc Sessler

Ok

The author does realize that Andy is still the coach here, right?

Yo Niles...lay off the drugs man.

I watched the press conference and that is taking it out of context.

Maybe if we're talking skin complexion (but even then, there's a pretty obvious gap). Otherwise, there is a fairly sizable gap.

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that's a joke people. but still fairly sizable skills gap tho.

He also realizes who the QB is

A QB THAT WILL THROW 25 TDs TO WRs THIS YEAR!

Shame on you for having confidence in yourself, Knile!

Andy has a better chance of getting pregnant

I concur!

How would anyone know?

Yea. No shit. Good for him. Now let's see him prove it though

I'm sure there was a day that Derrick Blaylock thought he was the same as Priest Holmes, as well. Confidence can be a good thing, I suppose.

Ok, Knile "3.5 YPC" Davis.

Davis is a very nice #2 RB and has been very effective at times.

But at this point, it's difficult to envision him as a 16 game starter, in KC or elsewhere.

If Kniles started a full 16 games it's likely he would end up with more yards than Charles. He's bigger and has a more durable frame.


He would likely get more carries per game than Charles.

Damn fine RB and is probably only going to get better but Jamal Charles leaves some pretty big shoes to fill. I salute the confidence and attitude however.

If Charles goes down this year, Davis will shine.

The kid has game breaking ability.

Why does he average 3.5 yards per carry then? He also has the advantage of being the change of speed back to Jamaal. If he gets full time duties that number would likely even decrease.

Read into Jamaal Charles and what he said about last year.

He called last year his most frustrating of his career due to injuries. Says that Andy wanted to give him the ball more but that he kept getting hurt.

I expects a run pass mix similar to 2013.

unless he learns to be shiftier in the hole he's not even a starter-level player yet.


now maybe if he gets a full-time gig then he can relax and do better ... not yet though

I think he has speed but his vision hasn't been that of a Plus running back and he's had trouble holding on to the ball.

Maybe he makes a huge leap this season but I haven't seen anything yet that makes me believe he can be anything other than a backup or a rotational guy in a RBBC.

His leg was broken in his most important game, so as to durability, I think there's some question as to whether or not he can handle a full load of 16+ games.

The coaches were predictable in most of the situations Davis got on the field and the OL talent to run the a and b gaps in the power runs they called for him hurt the unpredictability of the playcall. If he was the every down back, he would get a wider array of playcalls for him.

Kids got immense talent.

Sometimes RB's will try too hard when they know they only have a few carries to impress. Once they get the starting job they relax and are more productive.


I don't know if that is Knile Davis or not, just could be a reason.

You can probably find some way to blame Alex for that.

No doubt he needs to do a better job of holding onto the ball to earn more opportunities. IMO that's what's held him back.

All running backs get injured.

Sure but I think it's a little too early to discuss his durability when in limited duty, he's suffered a broken leg. I'm not stating that it's systemic or an injury bug, but it did happen and it did negatively affect that outcome of that particular game.

Hopefully, it was a freak injury and nothing more.

I agree.

His injury history makes me wonder if he can be a 16 game starter. He obviously has the ability, i just question whether he can carry the load for 16 games+.

Also, i'd be more worried if he DIDN'T say there was no gap.

I prefer my football players cocky and confident.

+ College injuries.

He has enough injury history to worry about his durability as a full time starter.

I think this scheme makes davis look good
he sure can't hit the hole as fast as jamaal

I'm a big fan of his every since training camp as a rookie. I swear to god his running style reminds me of a slightly less talented Bo Jackson.

If this line becomes solid, this kid is gonna shine when he gets a chance... But it's gonna be tough for him because he will always be getting compared to a HOF quality back in Jamaal.

I hate to say it, but I'd be surprised if Jamaal makes it through the year. He had a bunch of injuries last year and if this coaching staff has a mind for the future, they will let Davis get a lot more carries in 2015 and let him extend JCs career.

He does more dancing than he needs to sometimes. I remember moments where i thought to myself, "JUST ****ING RUN FORWARD!"

With his size and speed he's all but guaranteed at least 2 yards most every carry if he'd just put his head down.

I think he dances because he is slow to see open running lanes.


I've seen him leave several yards on the field because he missed a hole altogether.

He cost us a big 1st down last year, totally missed a huge hole and ran right into the back an Olineman. Was is 4th down or a fake punt? Don't remember.

This may not be the play you were thinking of and it appears to be a counter, but when you see a hole like that in a short yardage situation, you hit it and get that fresh set of downs.

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Ughhh...yeah...exactly. He's had more than one of those.

lol, I really like Knile but that was terrible.

87 missed his block and while it made Davis looked bad, I blame Andy for the poor call.

Exactly. Kelce seals the edge and Knile is still running.

OR he coulda hit the hole that he danced out of and had a shot a picking up the 1st.

Perfect example of the difference between him and Charles....

Cocaine is a helluva drug.

It's a counter and 2 defenders were filling the hole you think you see.

The play was designed to go where it went and Kelce whiffed on his block. If Kelce seals that edge, Davis might score on a long run.

****ing idiot has a career 3.5 YPC average. He needs to get to NFL average before he starts thinking about Jamaal.

Im not talking about the hole that opened on the counter. Im talking about hole he juked himself out of.

Kelce Missed a block...ok...doesn't mean he needs to slide right into the defender.

It's called Vision.Not every play is going to be blocked the way it's drawn up. Adjust and hit the gap given to you....don't dance right into the freaking defender.

It's a shit play by Knile. No need to defend it.

There's no way #56 stops him from getting the first. All Knile needed was inches. His forward momentum would've gotten him the first.

The block was missed, Knile had a choice to make and he tried to juke to the outside instead of hitting the gap in front of him.

It's an counter trap play. He's following blockers.

Situation wise, he should have just fallen forward in that hole but it was closed pretty quickly. Frankly, on 3rd and short, gotta question why we are calling an outside counter like that.

I know what you're talking about and I'm just saying he didn't "dance out of a hole" he ran the ball where the play was designed for it to go. It's a counter. The "dance" is basically a play fake for a running play. It's in the plays design for the ball to go left.

But let's say he shoots straight up the field...there are still 2 defenders filling the hole.

No guarantee he picks up the first...but by following his block, he has a chance to score.

He could have fallen forward and probably gotten the first down in that hole.

I'm not sure why were running a play on 3rd and short taht requires Kelce to seal Sio Moore, guess we're trying to hit a home run.

There was no blocker to follow. Kelce blew it from the get-go. Knile has to be aware that shuffling your feet horizontaly and hopping right into a defender is a poor choice. Simply pushing forward woulda at least given him a chance at a 1st, rather than a 2-3 yard loss.

It's a counter, he didn't try to juke outside.

FFS look at the blocking.

Doesn't matter


Davis had a 1st down right in front of him and didn't take it. If he breaks a tackle on that play he probably has a touchdown because the defense was up.

Exactly. They wanted a big play in a situation where the defense was keying on a a or b gap run. They were crashing.

Count the defenders, if Kelce makes that block Davis scores.

He did what he's coached to do.

There was no block to follow on the outside, FFS, Kelce completely whiffed. He wasn't following shit.

He saw the hole there, he hesitated, and chose to try and bounce it to the outside anyway instead of simply pushing forward. The end.

Poor play by Knile. And the two defenders there aren't in position to stop his momentum from getting a few inches.

Excuses. He ****ed up. Everyone in this thread is telling you the same thing. He had a hole, he didn't take it. That's the bottom line.

I'm pretty sure he's not coached to hesitate, shuffle his feet and hop right into a defender's arms.

I don't particularly like the counter call in a short yardage situation, but I understand it. You're not likely to find a better opportunity to catch the opponent being overly aggressive than on a 3rd and 1 situation. At the very least, you hope your guys can execute properly and squeak out enough for the 1st down. At best, you catch the defense with its pants down and rip them for a huge gain.

I will say, though, that this particular game probably wasn't the best for the call. It was wet as hell, the Raider's field is an absolute shitpile, and our offensive line blows. Reid was asking for trouble here.

It's supposed to be a run to the outside. He didn't shuffle and decide to bounce it, it's designed to go outside of Kelce sealing moore.

I'd like to see Knile act his weight. You'd think he were DAT's size the way he dances around sometimes.

Use that 230 lbs and blazing speed to punish some people.

I understand it's a run to the outside. Fact is, there was no block, he looked right at the defender and tried to bounce it to the outside anyway when it wasn't there instead of pushing forward.

It's not really debatable.

And yes, he shuffled his feet while trying to make a half assed move on the defender instead of simply going forward.

Techniqually,I think the designed hole is supposed to be outside the fullback and lt down block with Kelce kicking out moore. Hudson didn't get his head accross the ilb and it kind of all got mushed.

Rock and a hard place. Situation being what it was, duck your head in that hole and fall forward for a furst, but they swung for a big play

Yeah, he's pretty clearly following the play call. Kelce blows his block and it's game over after that.

If Alex would throw deep, it's not even an issue.

Sorry, but he's supposed to follow kelce and play off his block. It's a counter play. Yes kelce missed said block but by that time, it's too late. Moore undercut the block and blew it up.

Once kelce ****ed it up, knile should have just fallen forward though, so yes I do agree with that

2 YPC isnt THAT much of a gap

lol

Sure, that's how it's designed, but it didn't happen the way it was designed, so he needs to use his vision to adjust and make the right choice.

Original point being, he does it more than he should.

Cumulative it is....

Might not be a gap between Knile and Charles, but there sure as hell is between his ears. What in the world is Knile thinking? I mean, I want my players confidant, but they also need to be realistic! He ain't nowhere near Charles. NOWHERE.

Knile needs to put some decent numbers up and THEN start talkin'. Good grief.

A gap in 40 times? That I can see. In football ability? And I'm a Davis guy, and a guy who thought when Charles was at Texas that he would be a change of pace back, at best, but Jamal is a monster.

I smell another visit to Knile's room at TC...

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He shouldn't trust Kelce to make his block?

He should forego the play and run into the gap that was filled by 2 defenders?

Sorry, no. He shouldn't have. He should trust his guy to make his block and spring him for the TD.

This is like blaming the QB for taking a sack when a corner comes unblocked on a blitz...even though his hot read was covered.

You just explained the difference between a great back and one that might be good.

A great back is instinctive, with vision, and makes plays outside the design.

A good back does what he's coached to do.

That's the gap between Charles and Davis.

He should open his ****ing eyes and realize Kelce whiffed. You keep resorting to this "filled by two defenders" nonsense. Sure, it's filled if you need a 5 yard run, not a few inches.

Your QB comparison is lame.

No gap between Deberg and Rainman as thread starter.

Davis is a nice 2nd RB but he hasn't shown the vision to be a starter imo. More touches could change things, but my current impression is he's not an NFL starting RB.

Not a fan, but could be worse at RB2

What are you talking about? Davis was a tenth of a second or two slower than Charles in the 40. That's it. That's not a change of speed back

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