Sac's 2016 Chiefs Mock Draft
 

Post NFL Combine Edition!

While many deride the Combine as an "underwear Olympics," GM John Dorsey puts a lot of stock into a players measurables when considering potential draft picks. Prototype physical measurments and explosiveness are big on his lists. Dorsey seems to place emphasis on the 3 Cone Drill times as well. He doesn't shy away from small school players and has no problem drafting them if they fall within his Decision Lens metrics.

As such, here's the new Chiefs mock that considers the 2016 NFL Combine:

1. Paxton Lynch, QB; Memphis, RS Junior: 6'7", 245 lb.

Combine measurements:
Height: 6'6.5"
Weight: 244 lb.
Arms: 34.5"
Hands: 10.25"
40: 4.86 seconds
Vertical: 36"
Broad: 118"
3 Cone: 7.14 seconds

- Lynch has modern prototype physical measurements for the position to go with long arms and huge hands. He also clocked in the highest ball velocity at the 2016 NFL Combine at 59 mph - meaning he's got a cannon. He also has the physical explosion that Dorsey covets in his prospects (vertical and broad jumps). He looked poised with good footwork during the drills. A little shaky on some of the throws, but displayed good placement with velocity on most tosses.

The Chiefs were one of 12 teams to meet with Lynch at the Combine and they sent scouts to every Memphis game this past season.

Season stats:
13 games
Passing:
296/443
66.8%
3,378 yards
28 TDs
4 Ints

Rushing:
239 yards
2 TDs

- Lynch was an absolute force for the vast majority of the 2015 season, passing for 300+ yards and multiple touchdowns eight times while leading the Tigers to a 9-3 record and a bowl matchup with Auburn. Lynch progressed each season, increasing his accuracy, yards, yards per attempt and TD to Int ratio.

Has dropped a bit in the eyes of the draftniks due to an average showing against Auburn and the rise of NDS' Carson Wentz, but IMO Lynch is the best QB in this draft and fits what Reid wants in a QB. (Think of a 3" taller, bigger armed Alex Smith and that's what you have in Lynch.) With Daniel a FA and Smith at 31, it's an opportune time to bring in the legit QBOTF for this franchise and have him learn the system and league behind Smith. Both Reid and Dorsey have brought in QB's in just this situation before and I don't see them passing on a talent like Lynch here if he is available.

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(Former picks: Vadal Alexander, OL; LSU, Reggie Ragland, MLB; Alabama, Germain Ifedi, OT; Texas A&M; Austin Johnson, DT; Penn State)

2. Joshua Garnett, OG; Stanford, Senior: 6'5", 325 lb.

Combine:
Height: 6'4.5"
Weight: 312 lb.
Arms: 33 7/8"
Hands: 10 1/8"
Bench: 30 Reps
40: 5.32 seconds
Broad: 99"
3 Cone: 7.62 seconds

- The 2015 Outland Trophy winner as the best interior lineman in college football at Left Guard for the Cardinals. Powerful and flat out nasty. Will absolutely drive even the biggest defensive tackles all over the field at will. Uses his hands exceptionally well and easily picks up secondary blitzers and re-directs them while engaged with primary blocking responsibility.

Long arms and big, heavy hands with real power with his legs and arms. With the possibility of Jeff Allen leaving as a free agent and Ben Grubbs and Fanaika with injury + performance issues and Mitch Morse with a serious concussion issue that held him out the last month plus of the 2015 season, the interior offensive line is a real issue. Garnett is one of those rare players who's intelligence, strength, football skills and nasty demeanor would give him the chance to immediately start at a high level. Reminds me of a quicker Gabe Jackson. Just mean as shit on the field.

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Former picks: Demarcus Robinson, WR; Florida, Christian Hackenberg, QB; Penn State; Deiondre Hall, CB; Northern Iowa

3. Deiondre' Hall, CB; Northern Iowa: 6'2", 200 lb.

Combine:
Height: 6'2"
Weight: 199 lb.
Arms: 34 3/8"
Hands: 9 6/8"
Bench: DNP
40: 4.68 seconds
Vertical: 37"
Broad: 127"
3 Cone: 7.07 seconds

- While Hall's 40 time was a little disappointing, consider that another small school (Montana), but very physically similar CB Trumaine Johnson posted near identical numbers at his Combine. Hall's real gift is his unbelievable length, with the wingspan of a condor or albatross. He's also blossomed as a press corner in 2015, being named the Missouri Valley Conference's Defensive Player of the Year. Very good vertical and excellent broad jump. 82 tackles with 6 interceptions (two of them being returned for touchdowns). An aggressive and instinctive player who, like Sean Smith, found his calling as a press man corner. IMO, the best CB in the draft to emulate or replace what the Chiefs currently have in Sean Smith.

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Former pick(s): (Cassanova McKinzy, LB; Auburn, Scooby Wright, LB; Arizona; Dak Prescott, QB; Ole Miss; Miles Killebrew, S; Southern Utah)

4. Joe Haeg, OT; North Dakota State: 6'6", 310 lb.

Combine:
Height: 6'6"
Weight: 304 lb.
Arms: 33 3/4"
Hands: 9 5/8"
Bench: DNP
40: 5.16 seconds
Vertical: ?
Broad: 111"
3 Cone: 7.47 seconds

- Top performer in the OL group in the broad jump, 3 cone drill and 20 yard shuttle (4.47 seconds).

- You want to know who has the most upside at the offensive tackle position in this draft? This dude. The first time I watched the Bison to look at QB Wentz, it was Haeg who immediately jumped off the screen. Incredible feet, balance, kick, arms and hands. Two time first Team FCS All-American. Four year starter, two at RT and two at LT. Give this guy an NFL weight and film room and he's got the potential to be an All-Pro.

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Former pick(s): (Maurice Canady, CB; Virginia)

5. Tyvis Powell, S; Ohio State: 6'3", 215 lb. Junior.

Combine:
Height: 6'3"
Weight: 211 lb.
Arms: 32 3/4"
Hands: 9 1/2"
Bench: 15 reps
40: 4.46 seconds
Vertical: 34.5"
Broad: 120"
3 Cone: 7.03 seconds

- Overshadowed by Vonn Bell, but Powell excelled as the single high free safety in the Buckeyes defense. Defensive MVP of the 2014 National Championship game. Long and fast. Excellent recovery speed and really breaks well on the ball in the air. 71 tackles and 3 interceptions in 2015. Already has degree as an early entry junior.

(Previous pick - Tyler Marz, OT; Wisconsin; Bronson Kaufusi, DE; BYU; Ben Braunecker, TE; Harvard; Nick Vigil, LB; Utah State)

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Former picks: Doug Middleton, S; Appalachian State, Hunter Sharp, WR; Utah State

6. David Onyemata, DT; University of Manitoba; 6'4", 305 lb.

- The J.P. Metras Award winner, which is given to the top down lineman in Canadian college football. Originally from Nigeria, he didn't start playing football, actually never saw a football game, until 2011. (Played soccer to that point.) By the 2015 season, where he accumulated 50 tackles including 5 sacks while being double teamed nearly every down, he was showcasing superior strength and athleticism. Onyemata is considered the top Canadian NFL prospect, and received an invite to the East West Shrine game where he was described as "dominant" during practice. Consider him the LDT of the defensive side of the ball.

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Former pick(s): De'Vondre Campbell, OLB; Minnesota

6. Hunter Sharp, WR; Utah State: 5'11", 200 lb.

Combine:
Height: 5'11"
Weight: 198 lb.
Arms: 31 5/8"
Hands: 9 3/8"
Bench: 12 reps
40: 4.58 seconds
Vertical: 32.5"
Broad: 116"
3 Cone: 7.12 seconds

- I was more shocked with Sharp's less than stellar Combine numbers than almost anyone there. While not bad, they weren't what you saw on the field on Saturdays for the Aggies, where he was always the fastest guy on the field regardless of who they were playing. One of those guys who just seems to pick it up when the pads go on. Or didn't "train" well enough for the combine itself. Regardless, the guy can catch a football and his numbers will drop him into the fifth round easily at this point, where I think he'll be a steal.

- Speed. That's how Sharp plays the game from whistle to whistle. He's also a cocky, tough son of a bitch that plays fearless. Had 939 yards in 13 games in 2014 and 839 yards in 11 games in 2015 on a team built to run the ball. Averaged a ridiculous 35.4 yards per on kickoff returns in 2015. Will happily lay out for the highlight reel catch as well as put clown shoes on defenders with the ball in his hands on the open field. Think Steve Smith at the same stage. (Cousin of current Chiefs LB Derrick Johnson.)

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Former picks: Nelson Spruce, WR; Colorado

7. Tyrone Holmes, DE/OLB; Montana: 6'4", 250 lb.
- Your reigning 2015 FCS College Defensive Player of the Year. Former basketball and track star (shot put and high hurdles) in high school. 3.6 GPA in Marketing. Relentless. One of the real surprises of guys not getting a Combine invite. Dude led college football in sacks and was defensive player of the year in the FCS. That just doesn't seem right. Expect a pretty impressive pro day.

87 tackles, 21.5 tfl, 18 sacks, 3 ff.

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Former Pick(s): Storm Woods, RB; Oregon State

Hackenberg will be a top 10 selection come draft time.

Teddy Bridgewater was as well.

It's interesting that perhaps the two greatest team needs (besides QB) are still OT and OLB in spite of drafting those two positions in the 1st round in 2013 and 2014. :banghead:

Also, Sac, can you give us one more 5th round pick since we traded Kelcie McCray?

We traded one to the saints for Grubbs right?

I thought that was a 2015 pick

This is the first draft you've made that I like from top to bottom.

*Though I am a Connor Cook man this year.

They will never see Cook.

And I think Hackenberg has the best tools of the entire QB class. He needs to relearn the game, but I think he's got the most upside at the next level.

We don't need a QB. We have Alex Smith. The next Steve Young.

That's true...

I'll have to really start looking into the top OT's then.

Do not underestimate the stupidity and lack of execution of the ReidSmith.

Correct.

I just looked it up and we have two picks in the fifth round.

I'll add another to this list.

Actually, that was an amazing move by Dorsey to get a fifth rounder there.

Okay, just added the extra fifth rounder - Doug Middleton, S; Appalachian State

Let's be real here, the Chiefs are going to draft OT in the first round unless there's a passrushing OLB available.

They drafted a turd like Dee Ford.

Something tells me there's ALWAYS a passrushing OLB available when you're John Dorsey.

Just depends on who Dorsey and his Decision Lens output says/believes is the best player available with that pick.

He seems to be a guy who sticks to his sheet.

I think it's the drafting of the potential.

Dorsey takes the input of his scout staff (which is quite large if I remember correctly) quite seriously and uses a ton of information to put into the Decision Lens matrixing system that he utilizes as a determiner for both free agency and draft picks.

Look at his picks. They are thematic in terms of how they relate to their positions. He and the coaching staff have established a set of parameters that they want for each position.

Ford fit those parameters and the obvious hope was that he would blossom based on his skill set as it related to the system.

Obviously, to this point, he hasn't, but he's been playing behind two guys who many rank as one of the top OLB duo in the entire NFL in Hali and Houston. And Ford was considered relatively raw from a understanding perspective. However, he's got freak level athleticism and at this point, it's on the coaching staff and veteran players to make sure that those tools are honed to the point where, when needed, he's able to contribute in a positive manner.

It's just hard to get a lot of playing time behind guys like Hali and Houston, who are not only excellent players, but who have been ironmen at their positions.

Keep on grooming and hope that when his chance arrives, he delivers.

This draft is a wet dream.

if fisher's performance is in any way affected by the 'negative publicity' of him being a pussy, he's even a bigger pussy than anyone thought...


but your draft starts with a QB, so I'll be nice....

I someone openly calls me soft in the media, that would tend to light a fire under my ass. If that makes Fisher wimper, he needs to grow a set.

For another team.

I think that stuff was leaked to use as motivation.

Added some player video highlight reels.

Finally, a Sac draft I like.

He's got good patience. He's also got receivers.

Spoiler tag that shit you troglodyte. You think everyone has CERN-level supercomputing and data transmission that their disposal?

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It looks a little cheesy spoiler tagged. Kinda missing out on the grandeur of those tasty highlights. Ruins the aesthetic balance IMO.

Newly updated for the halfway point in the 2015 season.

I like Canady and Marz a lot myself.

yeah, let's spend our first on a guard...genus

You see the difference that even a Jeff Allen makes in the game over warmed over dog shit?

By the time the Chiefs pick, the top three QB's will most likely be off the board. (Lynch, Goff, Cook.)

You take the best player at that point unless they actually do the bold and move up for a guy like Lynch.

Alexander would likely be in the conversation as BPA at that point. The guy is a fricking freight train. Go watch the last two years of LSU football. Dude absolutely wrecks defensive lines.

A guy like Hackenberg or Hogan should be available with the Chiefs second rounder and both are very similar players - big arm, good athletes, etc. Both are pretty solid prospects. (Personally, I like either of them better than Goff at this point and maybe even Cook. Lynch is my fav, but at this pace, he's not going to be available.)

If you can get a Hogan or Hackenberg in the second round, you load up on fixing the protection issue that has plague this team at the OG spot for the past five plus years. Alexander would rectify that immediately. And then you get your QBOTF in the second. (And both Hogan and Hack do have first round talent. It's just a pretty good 1 through 5 at the QB position - if all the QB's declare.)

There's really only one guard I would have taken in the first round in my roughly-decade-long time following the draft intensely, and that's David DeCastro, and he's hardly been worth the return on investment for the Steelers.

You can say that about most positions though.

And due to the rookie salary cap, the positional value is not as critical as it was in the recent past. You just get the best guy on the board, regardless of position as it only helps build the team.

Look at the Chiefs this season - the addition of Jeff Allen and Sean Smith has basically turned around this team from an on field performance stand point. And neither are world beaters, but they are good enough to be the difference in a team who was pretty close.

They still need a legitimate RG and RT. And Vadal Alexander is legit. The Tigers have basically run behind him for three straight seasons and have done so effectively. He absolutely works dudes. Nasty.

And I would have taken Gabe Jackson in the first round of 2014. He was the best OG prospect I've seen in a long time and he's absolutely ****ing dudes up this season. Big reason for the Raiders possible resurgence in 2015.

Vadal Alexander is that same type of player. Very physical, looking to intimidate guys opposite of him. Plays with a strong base and drives dudes relentlessly.

You take the best available. If the Chiefs win the games that they should they will be picking in the teens to twenties and Alexander will definitely be in the conversation in terms of BPA at that point. (And, as stated, if that's where the Chiefs pick, then, most likely, the top three QB's will be off the board and they should have their pick of either Hackenberg or Hogan in the second - both of which have legitimate tools for the next level. (And I do think that Hackenberg has the potential to actually be the best QB in this draft class long term.)

God I love this draft.

I'm in on this

If we aren't taking a QB until the 2nd.....give me Jaylon Smith, ILB in the first.

No idea where we will be picking, but if both Jaylon Smith and Vadal are there when we pick I'm taking Smith 100 times out of 100 picks. Don't know much about Vadal, but both Smith, and Jack have the upside to be among the very best in the game IMO. I do like the way you drafted though. We certainly could use another lineman or two. And I'd love to take the BPA in the first, assuming the top 2 QBs were gone, and then follow it up with the best QB available.

Your first round pick sucks In pass pro and got humiliated vs Alabama.

These days you should be looking to take a QB, OT, pass rusher or secondary in round 1 unless there is a truly great generational player available.

LOVE Jaylon Smith. Not sure he'll be there though. Would Myles Jack be a fit? I love his versatility

CP will implode, but not bad picks

Great draft! Thank you for sharing.

If we went this direction I would need to see a Vet WR added that can actually play though.

...I'm already having nightmares that we'll end up grabbing Victor Cruz as our hot WR addition of the offseason.

Why would we want to draft a guy/two guys who are 43 OLBs at the next level?

Great athletes the both of them, but neither are gap filling, 34 ILB's at the next level.

If you are looking for a potential convert from weakside OLB to ILB like Derrick Johnson, both McKinzy (who has played both inside and outside for Auburn) and Ohio State's Josh Perry (who is more of a traditional 34 OLB but has characteristics that would translate to the ILB 34 position) would be, potentially, better options than either Smith or Jack.

Personally, I'd love to see them pillage either Zach Vigil or Josh Hull from the Dolphins this off-season in addition to drafting a guy.

Newly updated after the win against the shit munching Doncos.

I think ILB is one of the least valuable positions to draft in the first rd unless a generational talent is there.

We also have Wilson and March.

I liked the last version better

It's a bit of a weird first round IMO.

There's really no "generational" talents in this draft regardless of position, though it does look relatively solid.

Especially where the Chiefs will be picking. Guys like Vadal Alexander, Reggie Ragland, Taylor Decker, Germain Ifedi, Tra'Davious White, etc. are going to be the guys you are looking at.

TBH, the biggest upside, "explosive" type player in this draft might be Ezekiel Elliot followed by Corey Coleman. Are those "generational" type of guys? I don't think so. And those guys should/could be available when the Chiefs pick.

It's really a BPA, stay put type of draft depending upon how the board falls due to the previous picks.

Due to the lack of impact that Wilson, Alexander and Mauga have displayed, a guy like Ragland makes a lot of sense. They really don't have anyone on the team at the ILB that can play the run effectively and Ragland does that exceptionally well. If Decker is still on the board, I'd probably go that route as RT trumps MLB (even Ifedi is a solid choice at RT and might have the most upside and could play inside as well), but the "impact" positions you are thinking about don't have guys as good as those as the non-traditional ones in this draft at the point where the Chiefs should be picking.

And Ragland is a pretty solid player. He's on a tear right now and is the best player on that defense that's just shutting teams down right now. Go watch him against Arkansas. The Razorbacks run on everyone and Ragland just plugged their shit up like 543 lbs. of government cheese.

Will Fuller, WR, Notre Dame.

He's said he's not planning on coming out.

Well I guess that's good for the Irish then.

An ILB with the 1st pick?

LMAO

You're telling me that you don't think Jaylon Smith could play in the 3-4 in the NFL?

Jack isnt idea size but he would be a monster in a 3-4... This isn't a Paul Dawson running around blockers, getting destoryed when they get their hands on him. The dude fits up where he's supposed to and he destroys lineman. I posted these in another thread but maybe you missed them...

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As for Jaylon, I don't have an arsenal of his gifs but he has a pretty massive frame. 6-3 235 and he looks like he has 34+ inch long arms, and he's fairly stout at the point of attack..He does rely on his speed/instincts to beat blockers to the spot to make tackles, but he's so great at it he will most likely be able to do it in the NFL. His sidline to side line speed is just downright insane, Proably on par with Luke Kuechlys if not even better. I would take him in a heartbeat, and i'd come up with a scheme designed to let him run and round and make tackles.

That's what I am saying.

I would really like to see Treadwell accross from maclin.

IMO, KC will be looking at another 3-4 NT/DE somewhere in the 1st 3 rounds, because of the fear ( Honestly, God forbid) that Dontari could reinjure his back. The defense has looked average because of his injury. Though the Denver game showed he could be finally healthy now. Ultimately, Devito is on his last legs and the Chiefs need another versatile DL to help the DBs too, because we can get beat deep due to the lack of speed at the CB position.

I puke at the thought of the Hack in the 2nd round. Might as well take that pick, wipe your ass with it, and flush it down the toilet. That's how good Hack is.

Newly updated for the .500 5/5 mark road to the playoffs situation the Chiefs are looking at right now.

That cat was a later round pick too, I'm talking about a DL who can pick up the slack when Poe is dinged like Billings or Robinson. Added to that Dontari's contract year.

What the **** for? They've already got the next NT; just need to extend.

Howard for the most part is above average but not elite, getting an elite NT is a necessity for a dominant 3-4 Defense. Also, you need more than one hence the versatile remark like Ngata in his prime.

So you want them to draft an "elite" NT prospect with Howard, Poe and Nunez-Roches on the roster?

Thankfully, I don't think that there is an "elite" NT prospect in this draft. And if there were, the Chiefs won't be picking high enough to secure such a talent.

Howard has been pretty good this season. In fact, he's looked better than Poe in terms of holding and pushing the double gaps in the base 34's. Better run defender, enough so that I'd rather see Poe as the five tech and Howard as the Zero NT.

Nunez-Roches came out as a RS Junior after a very strong year. If he stayed and put together a similar year his senior year, he most likely would have been selected much higher than the sixth round. Pretty good, savvy pick by Dorsey actually considering that DeVito was coming off an achilles injury and his effectiveness going forward was pretty much in doubt at the time of the draft.

A guy like Kaufusi would be just like David Irving this past summer/preseason - a long, athletic guy who would provide a different look on passing downs from the DE position. (And I think that Kaufusi is a better prospect than Irving was at the same stage.)

I don't think Ifedi has the foot speed to stay outside. I do really like him as a guard prospect though. After that, I can't really say I don't like a pick. I think Hackeberg would test well enough in offseason programs that he won't be there late in round 2. He's really got a shit supporting cast and NFL teams will take that into account to some extent. If he's there, yeah I'd run up to the podium. He's got the talent to be much higher ranked but a bunch of bozos for lineman and receivers. What a shame.

System didn't fit him either. I don't see him going back and it will depend on the pro day/combine/individual workouts where he goes. Really depends on what the draft falls like. He's got first round talent, but he's stalled in a lot of areas and will need to be coached back up into his natural gifts.

And, as you said, Hogan should be a viable canidate in the second if the other four/five go early. I like Hogan. He's a pretty athletic guy with a really nice arm. Not overly accurate at times, but I think that's a correctable flaw in his motion. Otherwise, he's a really good fit for Reid's system.

Any of these guys are going to need one year at least and the Chiefs will have that luxury next year.

While I agree that Ifedi doesn't have the quickest of feet, his foot work is solid and he's exceptional in using his hands and length and upper body strength in redirecting guys. He's fundamentally sound if not a master tactician like Mathews. I think he could play on the edge quite easily due to his length, which would be wasted on the interior. Watching the A&M games, he's impressed me with his ability to move speed guys out and around while staying engaged on the interior. I think he's easily good enough to be a top RT.

When Poe was healthy was elite( last year's pass rush), Howard is not. When the Defense finally came around season when Poe himself was giving more effort because he was more confident in his injury situation. if Poe is healthy then re-sign him if not then you got to look elsewhere and Billings is a straight up beast BTW.

Speaking of Elite prospects Poe's production wasn't in no means elite, he was drafted on his measurables/potential.

Billings is a nice player. I think he'll be viewed more as a 43 DT than a NT in a 34 but he's shown the strength and anchor to be effective in either.

That being said, I seriously doubt that the Chiefs are going to be looking at the DT spot early unless they aren't able to resign Howard for something in the Allen Bailey ballpark of numbers.

It's not like at the OLB or ILB position, where no one outside the starters have distinguished themselves. The Chiefs have pretty solid and interchangable DT/DE's on the roster in Poe, Bailey, Howard, DeVito and Nunez-Roches (who actually has looked pretty solid in his snaps this year). Even Nick Williams has played the run well in limited snaps. DeVito looks like he's back into form after the achilles as well.

I just don't see the DT position being a Round 1 priority versus other positions, though Dorsey has shown that he'll draft BPA as it relates to other players on the team and their expiring contracts. (Fisher/Albert; Ford/Houston)

RT/OL, CB, QB, WR look to be the priority positions going into the 2016 Draft IMO.

Poe and the defense got owned because of the lack of pressure up the middle and occupying the blockers (Goddamnit) to allow the OLBs to do their Job.The NT position is a definite need if Poe isn't ever the same.

Not having Bailey hurt more than anything against the Bills and has really been key on Houston's lessening of sack numbers this season, but they most certainly will have to get a full medical on Poe.

He's getting the reps now, so maybe it's more of a conditioning thing at this point. I'm not sure.

Sacc- would appreciate your thoughts on Matt Wells in the coaching search thread in the lounge.

You can splooge on Chuckie Keaton all you want.:D

My fear is that Poe will always have shooting pains from his back to his legs, and can't use his strength and explosion off the snap because of this affliction. If he can truly rehab his back this offseason and comes back to form then that'll be awesome.

Since we are in the dark concerning Poe's health, It's my opinion the Chiefs do need a NT if Dontari doesn't ever recover.

Ragland is a stud. If he's therr I'd be interested

If there is issues with Poe, I think Destiny Vaeao from Wazzu would be a good later round pick. I think he could play NT or DE. He has experience in a 3-4 already.

Also, with DAT I think we should take a late round flyer on Braxton Miller if he is available and use him like Antwan Randle - El as an all around gadget player/returner.

I'm not a huge fan of picking a gadget player as specifically a gadget player. There are a lot of guys who actually player their respective positions very well who also can function as a kick/punt returner. Canady, the CB from Virginia, and Sharp, the receiver from Utah State, are both excellent at their position while leading their conferences in punt return yardage.

I'd rather have a guy who had the potential of being at least a #3 guy at their position with the possibility of moving up to the #2 guy while also working in at KR/PR versus a guy who will be nothing more than the quirky gadget guy without a real position.

Miller is still learning the WR position. You can line him up in the backfield as a half back and since he was a QB in college he can throw decently well. I see him as more as Randle-El than DAT. A WR that you can lineup anywhere and run gadget and trick plays through.

Not a top four rd pick but worth a 5th, 6th, 7th round flyer on.

Miller is going higher than that. He's shown some really good wr skills, Id take him in the 3rd

I'm not a fan of Hackenberg honestly. I don't think he's very accurate and needs a lot of work reading defenses. He's basically Tyler Bray.

I think Kevin Hogan is the perfect king of QB Andy Reid likes. I'd love to draft him in round 2.

Hogan has a weird release, don't think they'll like that.

I think Hackenberg ends up in the first round. He was in an awful situation, and he's only 20 years old

Hogan is decently accurate but not stupendously so.

Hackenberg declared: