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Fire Me Boy! 10-11-2015 09:13 AM

Strange ingredients?
 
Do you have any secret ingredients that you use that people don't know about and may consider it strange? What's your secret weapon?

I've really bought into "umami" and starting to use ingredients that boost savory flavor. Like a couple finely chopped anchovies in beef stew or porcini powder in sauces and on steaks.

Gonzo 10-11-2015 09:14 AM

Apple juice and heroin.

Fire Me Boy! 10-11-2015 09:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Gonzo (Post 11789198)
Apple juice and heroin.

Together or separately?

TimeForWasp 10-11-2015 09:20 AM

piss and vinegar

Fire Me Boy! 10-11-2015 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsNow (Post 11789202)
piss and vinegar

Together or separately?

Gonzo 10-11-2015 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Fire Me Boy! (Post 11789199)
Together or separately?

Depends on the meat.

cabletech94 10-11-2015 09:35 AM

Worchester.

or soy sauce. in everything.

never together.

Fire Me Boy! 10-11-2015 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by cabletech94 (Post 11789218)
Worchester.

or soy sauce. in everything.

never together.

Both are great for adding depth! :thumb:

I use Worcestershire sauce a lot in meat, especially ground beef. I generally stay away from soy just because of the sodium (and the low sodium tastes like ass), but it's a great addition.

LoneWolf 10-11-2015 09:43 AM

Ginger infused Shoyu sauce to marinate pork.

kstater 10-11-2015 09:45 AM

I pee just a little in to every dish I make. Not enough to tip off my secret, but just enough to give it some deprh

KC_Lee 10-11-2015 09:46 AM

Not sure if it's secret or all the odd but I use cocoa powder in my homemade chili seasoning. Gives it a nice mole flavor.

Sofa King 10-11-2015 09:46 AM

I've had gonzos heroin burgers. They're amazing.

LoneWolf 10-11-2015 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsNow (Post 11789202)
piss and vinegar

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Originally Posted by kstater (Post 11789235)
I pee just a little in to every dish I make. Not enough to tip off my secret, but just enough to give it some deprh

You need to have ChiefsNow show you how to add vinegar to your recipes.

LoneWolf 10-11-2015 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Sofa King (Post 11789238)
I've had gonzos heroin burgers. They're amazing.

I've heard they're addicting.

ptlyon 10-11-2015 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by KC_Lee (Post 11789236)
Not sure if it's secret or all the odd but I use cocoa powder in my homemade chili seasoning. Gives it a nice mole flavor.

And I use chili powder in my meth

FlaChief58 10-11-2015 09:50 AM

Curry powder, especially on chicken. Love that shit

Fire Me Boy! 10-11-2015 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by KC_Lee (Post 11789236)
Not sure if it's secret or all the odd but I use cocoa powder in my homemade chili seasoning. Gives it a nice mole flavor.

I've seen this before. Also seen peanut butter, and if you're into Cinci-style chili (yuck!), there's also cinnamon, allspice, and clove in addition to the cocoa.

I've also done coffee in steak rubs and pretty much anything with chocolate (especially brownies).

Dunit35 10-11-2015 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by ptlyon (Post 11789244)
And I use chili powder in my meth

Chilli P.

Fire Me Boy! 10-11-2015 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by ptlyon (Post 11789244)
And I use chili powder in my meth

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Simply Red 10-11-2015 09:55 AM

Jalapeno Powder, sugar pinches, Apricot-Preserves

LoneWolf 10-11-2015 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Simply Red (Post 11789256)
Jalapeno Powder, sugar pinches, Apricot-Preserves

Those all sound like stripper names.

GloucesterChief 10-11-2015 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Flachief58 (Post 11789245)
Curry powder, especially on chicken. Love that shit

Curry powder in chicken soup.

Bob Dole 10-11-2015 10:02 AM

Arby's horsey sauce in deviled eggs.

Boise_Chief 10-11-2015 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Fire Me Boy! (Post 11789226)
Both are great for adding depth! :thumb:

I use Worcestershire sauce a lot in meat, especially ground beef. I generally stay away from soy just because of the sodium (and the low sodium tastes like ass), but it's a great addition.

Try the amino acids fake soy sauce. My wife likes it but I'm not a fan of any soy. Tou can get it at smiths/fred meyer.

chiefzilla1501 10-11-2015 10:02 AM

I honestly don't know what umami is so I'll start with that. I think it just means unique flavors. And the most unique ingredients are in Asian food. I don't really know what I'm doing yet, but I've experimented with some of these ingredients you'd find interesting.

For staples, miso paste, Korean red pepper paste, dashi/bonito flakes. For spices, Chinese five-spice, Korean red pepper, anise all have really unique properties.

Lots of interesting dried ingredients at an Asian grocery store. Dried mushrooms of every kind. Dried shrimp.

Vegetables, I started putting perilla in lots of things. Gives a different bite to everything.

Finally, food substitutes. Fish sauce for salt. Sesame oil for olive oil. Kimchi for sauerkraut or relish.

GloucesterChief 10-11-2015 10:02 AM

Old Bay on everything.

Just Passin' By 10-11-2015 10:04 AM

I was just watching a show where the chef was using goldfish in his chicken parmesan.

cabletech94 10-11-2015 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Bob Dole (Post 11789283)
Arby's horsey sauce in deviled eggs.

that sounds.....

....intriguing!!!
will try it the next time I make these. thanks!!

Fire Me Boy! 10-11-2015 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Just Passin' By (Post 11789293)
I was just watching a show where the chef was using goldfish in his chicken parmesan.

RIP, Inmem.

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chiefzilla1501 10-11-2015 10:06 AM

Also, instead of using sugar for a marinade, try an Asian pear. A lot of Asian marinades will use that as a food substitute

GloucesterChief 10-11-2015 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Just Passin' By (Post 11789293)
I was just watching a show where the chef was using goldfish in his chicken parmesan.

I actually worked for a cook who used crushed up corn flakes for breading on Chicken Kiev and Chicken Cordon Bleu.

It actually tasted really good.

Fire Me Boy! 10-11-2015 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 11789286)
I honestly don't know what umami is so I'll start with that. I think it just means unique flavors. And the most unique ingredients are in Asian food. I don't really know what I'm doing yet, but I've experimented with some of these ingredients you'd find interesting.

For staples, miso paste, Korean red pepper paste, dashi/bonito flakes. For spices, Chinese five-spice, Korean red pepper, anise all have really unique properties.

Lots of interesting dried ingredients at an Asian grocery store. Dried mushrooms of every kind. Dried shrimp.

Vegetables, I started putting perilla in lots of things. Gives a different bite to everything.

Finally, food substitutes. Fish sauce for salt. Sesame oil for olive oil. Kimchi for sauerkraut or relish.

Umami is savoriness. It's a major component of Asian food, but not strictly Asian by any means. Foods that boost umami are high in glutamates, so a lot of what you listed are umami bombs.

Just Passin' By 10-11-2015 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by GloucesterChief (Post 11789305)
I actually worked for a cook who used crushed up corn flakes for breading on Chicken Kiev and Chicken Cordon Bleu.

It actually tasted really good.

Until I started her using Panko crumb and Parmesan cheese as a coating base, my mother used to use corn flakes as a shake-and-bake substitute.

Saccopoo 10-11-2015 10:14 AM

Since you brought up the whole umami deal...

Yeah, I cheat...

MSG.

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Saccopoo 10-11-2015 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Just Passin' By (Post 11789320)
Until I started her using Panko crumb and Parmesan cheese as a coating base, my mother used to use corn flakes as a shake-and-bake substitute.

Corn Flakes are legit.

Lonewolf Ed 10-11-2015 10:30 AM

I don't know if it is strange or just uncommon, but when I make Danish Christmas treats, the traditional recipes call for cardamom. I add other stuff to make it more appealing to my taste, like ginger, cinnamon, cloves, and sometimes anise seed.

GloucesterChief 10-11-2015 10:34 AM

My family makes traditional Icelandic Christmas cookies, we picked up the recipe when we were living there. They are basic spiced sugar cookies with the secret ingredient of black and white pepper.

srvy 10-11-2015 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by kstater (Post 11789235)
I pee just a little in to every dish I make. Not enough to tip off my secret, but just enough to give it some deprh

Know how I know you worked at McDonalds or orange Julius in your life?

srvy 10-11-2015 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by KC_Lee (Post 11789236)
Not sure if it's secret or all the odd but I use cocoa powder in my homemade chili seasoning. Gives it a nice mole flavor.

Interesting may give this a try.

I always have poured a little coffee leftover from the pot into my chili. It probably add nothing but to me it seems to taste better.

srvy 10-11-2015 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Lonewolf Ed (Post 11789362)
I don't know if it is strange or just uncommon, but when I make Danish Christmas treats, the traditional recipes call for cardamom. I add other stuff to make it more appealing to my taste, like ginger, cinnamon, cloves, and sometimes anise seed.

Oh careful you are going to set off the black licorice haters here.

Mr. Wizard 10-11-2015 10:43 AM

Brown Sugar opposite anything hot. (peppers, hot sauce, black pepper, chili powder, etc...) one teaspoon of it leaves people saying "that was awesome, a little spicy yet a little sweet". They beg for the recipe every time because of one addictive teaspoon. Its like crack.

listopencil 10-11-2015 10:47 AM

Not really but I have been known to slip a little curry into any savory dish. I have also been using vinegar more and more over just the last couple of years, works very well.

Fire Me Boy! 10-11-2015 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by listopencil (Post 11789399)
Not really but I have been known to slip a little curry into any savory dish. I have also been using vinegar more and more over just the last couple of years, works very well.


Nice. The acid you're adding is refreshing, keeps people coming back for more. I do the same with lemon.

cdcox 10-11-2015 10:53 AM

White pepper in with cheese dishes such as fettuccine Alfredo or Boursin cheese grits. Really sets it off.

Nutmeg to cream-mushroom-chicken dishes.

Lonewolf Ed 10-11-2015 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by srvy (Post 11789393)
Oh careful you are going to set off the black licorice haters here.

Then I shouldn't mention that a buddy shipped me FIVE pounds of black licorice wheels! :drool:

Fire Me Boy! 10-11-2015 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Lonewolf Ed (Post 11789447)
Then I shouldn't mention that a buddy shipped me FIVE pounds of black licorice wheels! :drool:


I have two pounds of star anise in my freezer. I've had it for about 8 years, and I think I've used two.

scho63 10-11-2015 11:14 AM

I use horseradish sometimes in my red sauce for pasta. Just a few tablespoons, nothing too crazy.

listopencil 10-11-2015 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Fire Me Boy! (Post 11789403)
Nice. The acid you're adding is refreshing, keeps people coming back for more. I do the same with lemon.

I started using vinegar in my holiday ham glaze/dipping sauce a few years ago. I always start with stone ground mustard and brown sugar but have been leaning towards more dill and vinegar and it's great.

Fire Me Boy! 10-11-2015 12:30 PM

Also should add compound butters. So tasty.

chiefzilla1501 10-11-2015 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by scho63 (Post 11789541)
I use horseradish sometimes in my red sauce for pasta. Just a few tablespoons, nothing too crazy.

I'll have to give that a try. For Mac and cheese, I find that ground ginger adds a nice punch.

Rasputin 10-11-2015 12:49 PM

With runs like that JC can keep his title as best running back NFL ever better average per carry than Jim Brown.

Rasputin 10-11-2015 12:52 PM

Ha oops wrong thread

TLO 10-11-2015 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by KC Tattoo (Post 11790216)
With runs like that JC can keep his title as best running back NFL ever better average per carry than Jim Brown.

And now he's hurt. :(

Fire Me Boy! 10-11-2015 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by KC Tattoo (Post 11790216)
With runs like that JC can keep his title as best running back NFL ever better average per carry than Jim Brown.



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Originally Posted by KC Tattoo (Post 11790248)
Ha oops wrong thread


LOOK WHAT YOU DID!!!

BucEyedPea 10-11-2015 01:11 PM

I'm into how matter flows especially liquid states, so I use Xanthan gum.

I also use wheat substitutes and no can tell the difference.

BucEyedPea 10-11-2015 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by scho63 (Post 11789541)
I use horseradish sometimes in my red sauce for pasta. Just a few tablespoons, nothing too crazy.

Tablespoons? That's a lot.

Rasputin 10-11-2015 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Li'l Smokey (Post 11790368)
And now he's hurt. :(

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Originally Posted by Fire Me Boy! (Post 11790415)
LOOK WHAT YOU DID!!!

:sulk:

cmh6476 10-11-2015 01:55 PM

habanero and pineapple

scho63 10-11-2015 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by BucEyedPea (Post 11790484)
Tablespoons? That's a lot.

Not for about 2 quarts of sauce. i make homemade sauce for many meals, not just once for the pasta I'm cooking.

Fire Me Boy! 10-12-2015 11:08 AM

Unflavored gelatin in soups and stews. It's an ATK trick to improve texture, making it feel more like a homemade broth.

gblowfish 10-12-2015 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Fire Me Boy! (Post 11789226)
Both are great for adding depth! :thumb:

I use Worcestershire sauce a lot in meat, especially ground beef. I generally stay away from soy just because of the sodium (and the low sodium tastes like ass), but it's a great addition.

I use Worcestershire in ground beef in just about every recipe. I have some Soy Sauce, but use it sparingly.

Lonewolf Ed 10-12-2015 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by gblowfish (Post 11794976)
I use Worcestershire in ground beef in just about every recipe. I have some Soy Sauce, but use it sparingly.

Worcestershire sauce is awesome! I love it with beef, either for chili, tacos, burgers, or on steaks. I use it in marinades and with dishes I use beer in as well. I use it with my chicken fajita marinade, too, but have key lime juice and cider vinegar mixed in.

Fish 10-12-2015 12:53 PM

Most people overuse Worcestershire sauce and Soy sauce to the point that's all you can taste...

bevischief 10-12-2015 12:55 PM

A Chiefs win.

Baby Lee 10-12-2015 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by cmh6476 (Post 11790854)
habanero and pineapple

Great combo. Have you tried Wilbur's Revenge?

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