Would you suffer through another year of Alex Smith if they draft a 1st round QB?
 

Say the Chiefs win 2-4 games this season and end up drafting a QB with their 1st pick.

Would you be willing to suffer through another season of Alex Smith? This is assuming that the rookie sits for the 1st season to get a handle on the offense. This also makes it so the Chiefs don't have to take a huge cap hit to cut Smith.

That's pretty much the perfect situation. I'm not a fan of throwing a first year QB to the wolves.

Depends on the level of the QB. I know there's a lot of names in this next class, but anyone that could be an Andrew Luck and dominate right away? Doubtful. I don't care.

Yes.

**** Yeah.

Give me Hogan, Hack, or Cook.

I'd mud wrestle my own grandmother for a first round QB

Yes, since I don't see them being able to fix the line this offseason. They've had multiple of seasons to address the line and it's only gotten worse.

Pay-per-view?

It's what the franchise should do and whom it needs to build around. The recipe has been out there forever.

While I agree.....I'm sure there are people that have had enough of Smith. There are also people that believe in throwing the rookie out there.

I'm sure there would be several of those advocators. I'd love to let him sit, but is Alex Smith really the best QB to let him learn behind?

I trust my my son around a mud puddle more than I trust the Chiefs to draft a QB.

I won't watch any more Alex Smith games, but am completely fine with drafting a QB and letting him sit a year.

Yes to Cook!

**** Hackenberg and any Penn State QB ever again

Hogan is worth discussing.

I'm becoming a fan of Jacoby Brissett - NCST

COOK!

smith is irrelevant, he's just a pussy stealing clark's money

drafting the qb is the only thing that matters...we've waited decades, what's one more year

And have Smith and Andy ruin him?

Poor bastard....

Well...we don't have a choice, other not going to the games (I'm already there) and not watching on TV (but a scheduled trainwreck on noon Sunday is still hard to miss).

I think the situation depends.

See Mariota, Winston, Bortals, Bridgewater.

Chiefs luck would be draft a QB, Smith rides the luck into a 13-3 type season and the true fans go nuts and our new toy never gets a chance until its too late.

Maybe if you can protect him. We can't.

Oh I agree hence the "situation". Most QB's would get killed behind our o-line.

Yes, please:

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Yes

Ideally not Smith in particular but a journeyman retread QB to hold the fort while a rook sits the bench, absolutely.

Not really. Reid has been a failure with the offense the last two years. I don't want to give him another 4 years with a rookie starting in 2017.

Purge and let the new HC pick his guy for his system. And, I really don't want Smith to be the mentor.

Ideal is to draft a R1QB and sit him behind Drew Brees for 2 seasons after Smith is released and signs with the Jets.

We can't get rid of Alex next year. I don't wanna waste money on two retreads...

The key to the poll is "drafting a first-round quarterback".

I can understand the Alex Smith problem. Andy was a good-bet hire by Clark, and Andy thought he could make Alex great. They tried it, and it's not working. Clark has shown a willingness to cut bait and move on when something's not working, so I think he'll do the same here.

I dont think you understand how things work.

NO! I want Kaep. LMAO

What the hell is this?

Why not start Aaron Murray NOW and see if he is finally the young QB the Chiefs can build around?

According to OTC, a June 1 cut of Smith nets $1MM back to the cap versus keeping him in '16. A trade would net a lot more back but that's gonna be hard to pull off for obvious reasons.

EDIT:

****. It. Sign Daniel for $15mm guaranteed over 3 years tomorrow and jettison Smith as a post June-1 cut. They're no worse for the cap, they can get a full offseason of trying to Tyler Thigpen-up the gameplan for Daniel as a starter to stall for time until a rook is ready.

Damn straight I would.

But that sort of thing requires, y'know, foresight. Which no iteration of the Chiefs front office has ever ****ing had even an ounce of.

Restructure Smith's contract to fully hit next year and get it over with.

No, Clark needs to stop riding the short bus to Arrowhead

I would never consider Smith a pussy.

Pussies don't get the living shit kicked out of themselves to the point of rupturing internal organs and keep going back out.

I think that Smith has become detrimental to himself and the team in that he knows that there is a fine line being walked in terms of game time decisions on both sides of the ball that require him to not make any mistakes.

This leads to overly conservative play which in and of itself leads to mistakes. He's holding onto the ball too long which leads to protection issues that aren't necessarily the offensive lines fault. He's regularly throwing behind receivers because he's tying to make sure that they are in the right route. (Did this numerous times yesterday.)

They need to sit him. Give him a couple of games to refocus and get his head back together and see what they have in Daniel and Murray. Smith is an intelligent player with good mechanics and game understanding who would be a good tutor/mentor to a rookie for the next year or two.

But they have to really focus on making that a real thing right now. Dorsey's army of scouts should be told right now to comb through potential QB players for the next two drafts getting as much information and film on them as possible. Start some deep, hard work on the position immediately.

So, in a nutshell, yes, I'd be willing to tolerate Smith at QB for the next two seasons if the team were showing that they were putting in the necessary work to get a guy in who would be the QBOTF in the next two drafts.

God, I hope you're right...

No. It's a plug and play NFL now. Alex sucks. Move on.

1. Smith hasn't shown that he is an intelligent player. Delay of games, no sense of urgency, no two minute drive in 2 1/2 years, can't read the field, no pocket awareness. Mentor my ass.

2. Why are you giving them two years? This is the KC mantra - no real prospect this year, let's wait again.

I fully believe that Smith is an intelligent person. But I've never seen much that would cause me to think he's an intelligent football player. He simply doesn't display any realtime intelligence when it's necessary on the field. He consistently stares down his first option, to the point that defenders completely abandon their responsibility and simply follow Smith's eyes. Here's a perfect example. Look at how the two safeties follow his eyes to the checkdown, and leave a WR streaking uncovered up the middle:

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There are countless more examples of this. At the first sign of any pressure, his decision making falls apart. If his first read isn't open, he has considerable difficulty adjusting to any other outcome. Generally he'll simply take off running. Many times all it takes is just the phantom anticipation of pressure to cause him to abandon the pocket. And he's simply terrible once he does leave the pocket. His vision is reduced to the point that defenses start crowding the box and let receivers run wild.

He may have considerable intelligence as a person, but his lack of confidence and fear of mistakes negates every single bit of that once he gets any whiff of pressure on the field.

Awesome 3rd & 1 play call Andy! :facepalm:

God he sucks! That ball should have been to Jamaal as soon as he makes his cut back inside.

As long as the n00b is forced to receive an AIDS vaccination.

I don't think you understand the concept of satire.

Which is basically what I was trying to say. And this has been exacerbated so far this season.

No 30 plus years of this crap.

That play got two guys open. One for a potential big gain.

Honestly, if Alex hits Jamaal sooner he probably takes that for a decent gain. That LB squared up would have had a tough time bringing JC down in the open field.

Yes. We wouldn't have a choice but if they took one in the first I'll have a street parade.

We are done. Fix it Clark.

Done with Viagra cure.

Typically, those are the people that are afraid of drafting QBs, and are bound to be the first ones who grow impatient of any struggles our drafted QB may have.

I say open competition, rook wins, rook plays.

Open competition? From Andy Reid?


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You are mistaken Smith had massive amounts of time vs the Bears and the 2nd most amount of time in the league vs GB

I want to see us draft a QB.

Then I want to see Alex suck.

Then I want to see the looks on his face when he gets pulled for that QB and rots on the bench for the rest of the year.

I want to see him eat shit. FOR WEEKS.

Yes. It is the HUGE danger I see in starting anyone else the rest of the season.

No benefit in starting chase unless he's a true Qbotf. If he succeeds, the chiefs may think about extending him, which doesn't fix the problem. If he or Murray fails, the organization will say "see? Alex doesn't have enough weapons."

Alex is here next year no matter what. His contract becomes friendlier to get rid of after next year. Who knows, maybe by midway through next year on he becomes trade bait and we get something back.

nobody plays QB with more fear than Smith...it's why he's the 32nd ranked qb in the league

he is literally afraid to throw the ball

he is afraid of the pass rush, that's why he stares at it rather than scan the field

he's got no cojones...it's why he's terrible, embarrassing to watch...this QB of our golden era

and 2 more years? holy shit, you have lost it

can we never call smith a smart qb again, please

there's quite a blooper roll from his time with the chiefs to prove he is a ****ing idiot

Sit Alex so he can get his head right with ball?

Holy shit. Who the **** ever heard of Steve Young or Troy Aikman or John Elway or Jim Kelly or Aaron Rodgers or even a ****ing bum like Trent Green being "sat down" to get mentally refocused during a season?

This isn't baseball. There aren't 162 games. There are 16 and you play each one if you're healthy unless you're just a pussy ass bullshit artist who scammed his way into $70 million undeserved and is a dead man ****ing walking because the SECOND we draft a real QB the clock starts ticking on this asshole.

No,

Get Alex the **** out

The team has given up on him

He's got two more years here.

You should accept that fact.

Besides, they are going to need that time to groom either Murray or a QB that they draft in 2016 or 2017.

And a similar situation most likely helped Kurt Warner become the guy he was with the Cardinals.

I think it would be good for Alex and the team to help him even out and just get right.

Just as long as 1.5 of those years are on the bench.

It helped Kurt Warner go back to being Kurt Warner. He was a guy who, by the way, flourished with protection.

Alex Smith would go back to being... Alex Smith? Don't see the giant difference?

I'm okay with that.

Let's see if Daniel can do this.

Let's see if Murray can do this.

Let's see if a QB taken in either 2016 or 2017 can do this.

Let's see if Smith can right the internal mental ship.

All this is a possibility.

QB in 2017???

This fan base deserves this team.

It is very doubtful any if the qbs on this roster are the answer. They have to pull the trigger in 2016. Worst case, they have a good backup QB in the bench. Sure, give all these guys a shot the next year or two. But we pretty much know what we have. Let's be real.

We're likely going to have a top 5 pick in 2016, if that pick is QB, than you absolutly start him.Daniel is likely gone after this year, Murray and Bray can be the backups and try to get a ham sandwich or a 6 pack of natty ice from a QB starved team for alice

It's Murray time. We know who Daniel is.

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Murray should start on sunday (he won't, but he should) No need to prolong the inevitable. Alice ain't the answer and neither is Daniel. The season is done for the Chiefs so why not see what we have

First answer, best answer. BINGO! :clap:

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Andy got a 2nd rounder for McNabb at the same age Alex will be next year.

i doubt any team would give anything decent

Mcnabb v Alice

One of these things is not like the other

If Daniel gets put in and plays well a 2nd would appear.

Isn't he a FA after this year?