Is there really a top 10 QB?
 

Let's be honest. This class sucks. If Christian Hackenturd is in the conversation for the first round, we may as well win.

Draft a fatty..these QB's suck

Too risky

I'm with the whole draft a QB thing, but let be a little real. They actually all suck. Pretty bad.

just trade for kraperdick and get it over with! :p

There's never a QB out there good enough for this ****ing fan base.

This class could be nothing but Andrew Lucks and half the fans would snub their noses up at the whole thing.

We should just save this poll and pull back up every year.

Eventually someone is going to have to be a good QB, or at least be good relative to everyone else.

I don't know where the league is going to be in 4-5 years... as the 2000's guys all age out of the league. Roethlisberger, Romo, Rivers, Eli, all of these guys are getting into their mid 30's. They don't have many prime seasons left. And even Rodgers, Flacco and Ryan are in their 30s.

That basically leaves Wilson and Luck. And probably Dalton and Newton. There aren't many "elite" QBs under 30 years old... and a lot of people on this board would argue those four guys aren't that great. I'm not sure who the next wave will be, but somebody in this league will have to be playing QB and winning games.

Trevone Boykin is worth it.

This post shocks me.

That's a fair point. QB play in general is shit. There's not many new "good" QBs taking over.

Too risky. It'll set the franchise back 15 years if he busts!

FYP

I understand the sentiment. Seriously though who are you taking 1.1 through 1.10?

You look at the list of elite to near elite QBs in this league, all but Peyton Manning and Ben Roethlisberger sat and learned for at least a half season before being given the keys, and Roethlisberger was barely asked to do anything but hand the ball off to Bettis in his first season.

The problem, I believe, as I've said before, is not talent.
It's development.

Who ya taking Sacc?

A Quarterback.

Goff. Cook. Gotta take a chance at some point. The waiting game is obviously not working.

I also wanted Derek Carr, or Teddy Bridgewater. And I wanted Geno Smith. But we'll never know who works out until the chance is taken.

If there is we won't draft him

No.

Boykin's best comparable is Russell Wilson IMO. They have similar styles and both know how to go out and get the win.

Many Radio host have been saying that most Players with talented arms would rather play baseball then football same amount of money way less body trauma when you retire its why there has been a drought of talent at the QB Position.

Carson Palmer also falls into this category. Bens Steeler team went 15-1 that year when he took over if I remember correctly. Manning however did suffer in his first year.

MLB players actually make MORE money than NFL QB's do. MLB contracts are fully guaranteed. I'd rather play baseball too. I can do that until I'm 40. NFL is a short lived career typically.

We won't be drafting in the top 10.

Probably 15-20.

The problem I'm starting to sense is that, even with the offense preferring rules, the position is talenting itself out of the market for an immediate impact player.

Maybe 2 every 3 years competition ready. 2 every 5 years playoff ready within 5 years in the league, draft-wide.

Anywhere in the 1st round is a perfect spot to take Boykin.

You will love Conner Cook by the time the draft start's.

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That guy is a TCU fan.

You really think now the Chiefs are going to finish the season 7-2 or 6-3 down the stretch?

He knows.

Hell to take it even further, in my area, which is huge football, only private schools do well anymore. I think only Texas has more private school recruiting than my area does. By recruiting, I mean "education opportunities for free"

The best QBs aren't necessarily the guys with the most arm talent.

No.

When have they ever done something we expected?

We only beat a 3rd string QB wait till the lions game before making such a claim

I don't know, but this team still has Alex Smith and no Jamaal Charles. They won't be facing Landry Jones and the 27th ranked pass defense every week. They might squeak away a win against SD, but Oakland has a shot to sweep. 8-8 or 9-7 seems nuts. You're raising the bar solely based on this victory today.

Yes I do.

Wait 4 years and take Ryan Willis from KU. I can be a homer to kc native

Right now?

Paxton Lynch of Memphis.

He's seeing the field extremely well, is delivering his passes with drive and is showing a high degree of accuracy on said passes. Good athleticism and is really picking up on defenses right now.

He's also refusing to lose and is basically carrying that team through the QB position. (Has led the Tigers back from four double digit deficits so far this season.)

I've seen four Memphis games this season and there hasn't been a single defense that has come even close to being able to do anything against him. He's ****ing destroying dudes right now.

Paxton Lynch is my favorite by a mile.

But do you think the recent concussion news has anything to do with the lack of good QB's ?

I'm all Christian Hackenberg if he's available. The kid is going to need at least a year on the bench to learn the system and adjust to the pros but he has every intangible you could imagine; height, muscle, rocket arm, poise. It doesn't hurt that I'm also a huge Penn State fan so I might be biased but I'm going to have a 2nd favorite team right away if the Chiefs don't draft him.

Wasn't our last 1st round QB drafted out of Penn St?








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You will all Rue the day you dissed on Conner Cook

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It will finally come full circle and break the curse!!! Be prepared to sacrifice a chicken draft day.

We have to take a quarterback eventually, though. This game we've played for almost thirty years isn't working. when we continue to draft quarterbacks that fall to the bottom of the draft or trade for some other teams trash and never see results well just see the same results we have. This shit isn't working and never will

This QB class stacks up pretty well with the 2014 class that now has 3 guys who look like future franchise QBs.

Goff, Lynch, Cook, Wentz, Hogan, and Boykin all stack up pretty well with Bridgewater, Bortles, Carr, Garrapolo, and Manziel.

When its all said and done 2014 wont look that much worst then 2012

Andrew Luck
Robert Griffin III
Ryan Tannehill
Brandon Weeden
Brock Osweiler
Russell Wilson
Nick Foles
Kirk Cousins
Ryan Lindley
B.J. Coleman
Chandler Harnish

that was suppose to be the next Great QB class so many bust on that list.

We aren't watching the same games :).

You're just not going to find a great QB handed to you on a silver platter ever. Unless you're the mother****ing Colts, that is.

Since we're not, we're going to have to take chances on Roethlisbergers, Flaccos, Tannehills, and everything in between.

People are scared of that because what if bust. **** them.

It's that simple.

The colts might have ruined Luck he has not been the same this year

The thread title says "Top 10", and the poll says "Low first".

Fail

Yeah, he hasn't been that great since losing Bill O'Brien and he's a pro style QB that had to convert to a spread with bad OL and WR support. Totally admit I'm a homer and it would just be really cool to have a QB from from favorite college team drafted by favorite NFL team but I also think he has all the tools both mentally and physically and given time will be a Big Ben type QB.</br></br>But again, homer and all. I can dream! :D

So the top 1/3 of the draft class is not a low first?

I think it's more along the lines that everyone has a gimmick these days. Then they get figured out. Not sure there are pure passers anymore.

Only "gimmick" that is really successful is Roethlisberger. "defeating sacks" is an excellent gimmick.

Cam has a pretty good gig. He's what I envision with[ed] a non-broken [can he ever be fixed] Alex and a competent team around him.

At this point, I'm not even sure that Andrew Luck is an Andrew Luck.

Hackenberg has a lot of tools.

When I've seen him on the field, he has shown a lot of poise and he really stood in against a hard Buckeye defense that absolutely pounded him.

He's been in the wrong system and getting the shit kicked out of him, but he's still gaming.

If you can get that freshman guy back, which is a possibility if he comes out this year, and let him sit and learn the position again you might really have something with him.

He doesn't strike me as a flake or a flash in the pan (which his freshman year might suggest). Just a dude in a really bad situation that's trying to tough it out the best he can.

Irsay is already chewing out his GM.

Perhaps we'll soon see which approach is better.

Local media fears that opinion every day.

Yes because we could definitely do worse than Glenn Dorsey, Tyson Jackson, Jonathan Baldwin and Dee Ford who have obviously been great first round picks for us..

The colts will go to the playoffs with a losing record maybe 7-9

And they will clean house

We will Miss the playoffs with a losing record for the 2nd times in a row and nothing will change it isn't fair

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Goff, Lynch, and Cook all have first round talent and upside.

Hogan, Hackenberg, and Kessler will probably go late first to second.

Cardale Jones might come out and will be a late 2nd to 3rd. He is playing in the wrong system at Ohio State and it is hurting him. He is not a read-option guy.

Connor Cook is my pick o' the litter.

This if we are keeping reid cook is his type of QB

Not against drafting a QB. Just questioning the talent at QB vs our draft position.

Edit: I know we have have to take a chance at some point. More along the lines of "do we have to tank" to get what we need in this particular draft.

Out of state fan? I'm 30 min drive from state college, but just a hockey fan of Penn State.

Local media dreads that the national media will give him a pass cuz of the "system", and as a result will deter any good QB from coming here.

The 2004 kind of QB draft isn't something that happens often. 1983 was the last time a QB draft like that happened.

The college game is ruining QB's so it's far more rare to see multiple options on a consistent basis.

We need to try

It's a must lose game next week. Otherwise we are ****ed.

Born and raised in PA with ties to Penn State. Moved to CO for a better job opportunity and the Rocky Mountains give me a woody. Check your rep.

Yep Lions game is either a Tank for the season and all the homers go quite or 8-8 waste of a season

I could literally kick Big Ben in his balls for this atrocity.

At the very least Id like that to think you could get ASS11 type production out of a pick at 15% of the cost. Thus allowing you to allocate resources elsewhere for a few years.

You could get ASS11 production out of Murray or Daniel RIGHT NOW. Today.

Isn't it time to shoot for something a little higher?

KC isn't drafting a QB in the first.

You're probably correct.

Absolutely . Just pointing out there is something benficial if you dont hit a home run with the pick.

You are correct. Since the new rookie agreement, there is literally no excuse to not take a QB. It won't kill your bankroll.