Would drafting a QB in the first round renew your excitement for the Chiefs?
 

I think it's the ONLY thing that can reel me back in as a fan and get me interested, again.

Discuss

It's worth noting that the scouting department is hitting the QB trail hard. Every week our scouts are out there scouting multiple QBs. Per Dan Patrick.

Absolutely!!!!!!!

I've been big on the idea as of late but the more I look at things, I think we need to forget it. Reasons:

1. They won't win less than 6-7 games, destroying the draft position. The schedule isn't difficult enough for them to not win 4 out of 9 minimum playing good defense.

2. Smith's contract/statistics + Reid's regime. By finishing around 7-9, Reid will keep the job and thus with their commitment to Alex, so will he.

Your best bet to be 'revived' will be them earning it on the field.

Meh. Not really. Because that Qb still has to pan out. Simply drafting one doesn't fix the Chiefs.

There's a good chance the QB will be a bust or mediocre at best because Chiefs.

Now, if that QB comes in and shows some Marriota like promise...then maybe.

But....otherwise...meh. Im getting too old to be getting my hopes up for nothing.

Prove it and then we'll talk.

great idea until you start him and he gets killed and ruined forever due to the lack of any oline.

I'd draft oline (LT and a G) in the first 2 rounds next year and see how the team does with Alex or any of the others on the team.

If no big time improvement (playoffs), you draft a qb in the first and toss him right in with an updated and improved line in front of him.

Besides, Alex is on the books for too much money for it to make sense to draft a qb next year. If he doesn't take the team to the playoffs with the improved oline, you cut him and the remaining salary which wont be such a big cap hit at that point.

Is water wet?

Uh oh you done did it now.

Depends on who it is, and who the coaching staff is.

We will be in position to draft a good QB.

Cook
Goff
Jones
Lynch
Hackenburg
Brissett

There will be a good QB available.

I have no doubts were going to draft a QB that they think can be the starter in 2017 at the latest...my hope is they don't look at the position depth and say "we can wait till the second or third round" and that they make a statement they are going to go out and get the absolute best guy they can in the first round...even if that means trading up.

Draft said qb this year and let him sit.

If they're in a position to draft goff or lynch or cook, do it. Sit him. No need to rush

This is actual very valid, providing they don't end up like 4-12 or worse. If they end up in that 7-9 range like I suspect, their best bet is to try to improve that line before making a big investment at QB via the draft. It'll ruin their potential.

I answered "Yes", but only if it's someone worthy of picking in the 1st, not some flail just to be doing it.

Well....you just listed what looks to be several 2nd-3rd round guys.

Point to the part of the doll the Chiefs touched you...

Not after Sunday and how bad this division is!

I'd out the over under on 2.5 going in the first round.

This. Draft a QB in the 1st and then sit him for an entire year. Smith really isn't going anywhere with that cap hit. Let him go out there and earn his money for that year. 2017.....the new era begins.

Well therein lies the problem, as none of these guys look like slam-dunk top 10 picks thus far.

Well without one there is zero hope for success. We've Sean decades of failure with very little if any success...

You can't sit here and question drafting a qb while drafting guys like Eric fisher. That's universally stupid...

They pretty much have to.

Like Bridgewater, Dalton, Carr, etc?

I'm down with that level of QB in the first.

Like pest just said, you can get the best of both worlds.

Draft a qb in round 1, sit him. Meanwhile, beef up the ol more or more wrs, TE's whatever for smith next year.

Just keep building the roster with talent.

Classic chiefs fan post. Eric fisher and dee ford weren't even remotely 1st round talent. Yet we have a gif of when fisher was drafted celebrating like we actually accomplished something...

If you don't try. You fail.

Goff and lynch are going in the first. I'd imagine cook does as well.

The cool part about that is its possible we can flip Smith for a pick if we can make him look serviceable next year.

ROFL @ Knowmo voting no

You can smell the fear.

I'd be okay with drafting a guy and sitting him for a year. But then comes the issue, if we're picking around 16 like I would expect, what can we get? Probably not the top guys. What if with the weak schedule next year (AFC South/ NFC South), Smith and Reid get another 11 win season with said QB on the bench? There's just too many questions right now to be thinking about all this. Kinda hurts my head.

**** yeah we have to keep from taking a risk. Fisher and Ford are the mother****ing bomb!!!!

Y'all where saying that in the preseason in reference to what the donk fans were posting -ascribing it to the fear that the Chiefs were gonna roll them this year.

What you were smelling was actually the outgassing of fat, disgusting Schlitz beer shit the Chiefs were about to take on a bunch of fans.

There's a difference between taking a risk and being flat out ****ing stupid. I.e. EJ Manuel.

Draft and develop. Perfect situation with one more year of Alex Cassel.

Do they get rid of Reid or am I forced to get excited watching the new kid make throws behind the los on third and long?

The Chiefs will do this,

or I will do THEM.

NFL as a whole is losing my interest, the Chiefs also. I will watch when convenient but will not go out of my way to do so anymore. A new QB would have been great a few years ago.

I voted no...until Andy gives play calling duties to someone else.

No, drafting a GOOD qb would though.

Don't care what round it is.

Did you bump this thread from 5 years ago?

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The Chiefs wont draft a QB early because they even suck at losing. .they will end up with 7 or 8 wins and a mid round draft pick. .this team is hopeless..they cant even lose when they need to...

Colin Kap is going to be our QB in 2 years

Nope. The league is broken.

Someone earlier said that drafting a QB in the first isn't going to fix the team and I'll agree. I'll also agree we're stuck with Smith on the payroll next year. That doesn't mean he has to be the starter. I'd kind of like to see what we have in Murray and Bray before we start planning for 2017 and beyond.

I don't care that it wont fix the team. What it will do is represent a change in thinking that has been in existence for 30+ seasons. THAT in of itself is a major fix.

And the crop is good and the time is now, and mother**** them right in the ass if they stand pat this year.

ENOUGH.

Im in this camp as well. Deal is, the NFL is not a good enough product to keep me watching when my team sucks. That never used to be the case. The game has changed and not for the better IMO. Hell, I dont even know what constitutes a catch anymore - neither do the refs...

Well said sir!

I don't like the crop, then again I haven't liked any crop in a while. QB play is down around the board. Even the up and coming ones are mediocre.

I still say we take the chance. Even with "in my opinion" a terrible crop.

There is literally no QB on this roster worth investing the time in, in order to hand over the reigns.

It is what it is.

Should we wait on a "sure thing" like Luck/RGIII?

Uh huh.

4 or more available this year.

Pull that goddamned trigger.

I distinctly remember when Carl drafted Todd Blackledge in the '83 draft, it was very exciting. The entire offseason was scintillating and then he stepped on the field and attempted to play football.

So yeah, it would be more excitement from April....errr...now May until September. Who knows maybe the next QB KC drafts at #1 might actually know how to play football.

If that happens next year, I figure that's the last QB in the first round in my lifetime.

Then your memory, sir, is shit.

Yeah, wasn't Peterson hired in 1988??

How the hell did he draft Blackledge in 1983??

Did he find the Time Musheen??

You two, come on over and hop up on ol' KCTitus' lap here and let me tell you a story about the history of this here place called Chiefsplanet...

Nearly one score ago, when this place was initially founded, we had folks akin to you all...young, fired up, knew better than anyone else including the front office and coaches...yep, we were thick with 'em. Funny thing was anything and everything the team did was wrong. That's right, this franchise couldnt pour piss out of a boot with instructions on the heel...

It was then I started to notice something...something bout these fellas I started calling 'Genious'. Oh yes, I began to study these fellas because we all want to be right all the time, so I learned their language and the first thing I recognized was that regardless of what happens, what decision is made, what action is taken it is always the wrong decision. Yes, sir...I even developed a bit of a dictionary about it, called it The Lexicon. Be happy to share with you boys, if'n yer interested.

During that time we had a GM named Carl Peterson and he was the focus of everything that was wrong with KC and he was pure evil according to the Genious - you know, he just wanted to be good enough to fill the stands and not actually win...stuff like that. So, I used to poke fun at these fellas by saying that Carl drafted Blackledge. It was kind of my way of poking fun at them...it's the one bait that will pull a Genious out of the woodwork.

So, I'll leave you two with this bit of sage advice from a grizzled old 'Planet vet...

Be careful what you wish for...you might just get it.

I've lived in Nashville for 11 years now. And in my time hear I have watch the Titans draft & start three times the number of QBs that KC has. Sure they did not pan out but at least they try, at least they see a position of need and try to address it via the draft instead of JAG after JAG after broke dick JAG.

The was the Chiefs have addressed the QB position for over 30 years has yielded ONE playoff win. And how many "win now" rebuilds have we seen? Where does that leave after about 4 - 5 years? Broken down teams that have to start over with another JAG.

NO MORE!!!

Address the QB position via a 1st round pick. Let him grow. Watch as this fan base gets more and more fired up! See the merchandise revenue pile up higher and higher.

The BonoGrbacHuardCasselPalko method of addressing the QB position has run it course. It is high time to change directions and finally address the QB via the draft in the 1st round. Is there risk? Sure, but every draft pick is a risk.

Should we go LT?? Well you run the risk of drafting the next T. Jenkins.
Perhaps DL is the way to go? You run the risk of getting the next T. Jax or R. Sims.

But if you never try how will you ever know>

I remember it well too, though King Carl wasn't involved, (you might be playing around with that) but that's not important as your point was to reference the fan "excitement" that came along with the pick. I wanted to draft Dan Marino, but was very excited that the Chiefs drafted one of what was seen as an outstanding QB class. Didn't take too long to realize that the one we got was the only one of the bunch that could not play...:cuss:

Vintage Because Chiefs

And KC passed on Marino because of pot use rumors. Swing and a miss.

You defeated the rest of your argument there...

Seriously, it's my opinion that finding a great QB is more luck than anything else. Hell, even Pioli managed to 'pick' Brady, but would you want Pioli back to KC to pick a QB in any round? Heh...I think that ship has sailed.

I laugh when I read people that hate on the front office/coaching staff, yet whine about picking a QB. Well, ok, yes...but do they not realize *who* will be doing the picking? That same group they despise.

It's incongruent logic.

So you're argument is never try. Got it.

Enjoy the next broken down / has been / never was JAG next season as KC's starting QB.

OMG...check the quoted part of my post that follows - "It's my opinion..." and I defy you to find the words 'never try it'.

Up in smoke...

Those rumors were unsubstantiated.

Drafting Eric Fisher was the right move that year. He's been a nice surprise this season.

How about :

Dee Ford over Derek Carr

Or

Donald Stephenson over Russell Wilson

Or

Jonathon Baldwin over Andy Dalton

That's just over the last 3 or 4 drafts...

Russell Wilson--not a 1st round QB. Andy Dalton--not a 1st round QB. Derek Carr--not a 1st round QB. Hey, here's a thought. Why don't we dress and maybe even start our 5th rounder from 2014? Seems to be a nice kid, tossed a few TDs at Georgia.

History shows that you have just as much luck looking for a QB outside the top 10.
Look at the last 10 years. Here are your top 10 QB's:

Alex Smith
Vince Young
Matt Leinart
JaMarcus Russell
Matt Ryan
Matt Stafford
Mark Sanchez
Sam Bradford
Cam Newton
Jake Locker
Blaine Gabbert
Andrew Luck
RG3
Ryan Tannehill-not sure if he's a "hit" or not
Blake Bortles

Interesting that 95% of the elite QB's/QB's with a lot of success weren't picked top 10.

Big Ben
Brees
Rodgers
Flacco
Brady
Wilson

Add Carr and Bridgewater to the mix as guys not picked top 10 who look really good.

We need to hope our brass can locate the guy, and if he's going high in the draft, be assertive and trade the **** up for him

I was referencing 2013. I agree with your post about the blunders in other years.

Yeah, it's only been 33 years since our last drafted first round QB. What's the hurry?

To not even try is asinine. The team is a joke.

That's because when a team picks lower, the team has more stability. Your point doesn't negate drafting a QB early in the draft.

No different than wasting a pick on Eric Fisher.... There wasn't a sole alive that thought he was worthy or let alone a decent choice to be drafted in round 1....

Yet we wasted the pick and drafted him. Might as well try and be a legit NFL franchise and waste a pick on a QB and TRY to be relevant and build a contender...

Sure beats the alternative we have experienced the last 30+ years that's for sure. Which is the blueprint for irrelevancy...

No.

Eric Fisher has been a solid NFL OL this season who hasn't given up a sack. Geno Smith and EJ Manuel aren't even starters this year.

Fisher was the right decision in that draft.

It would absolutely make me happy. I'd happily suffer through another year or half the year of watching Smith play and having our potential QB of the future learning on the bench. There's no guarantee that he'll be good, that's obvious. But at least try to make an effort to improve. We don't know if he'll be a hall of famer or a bust, but at least try.

OL will always be the right safe decision in every draft.... I have die hard true fan family members that swear by this... Drafting a QB will destroy your franchise if its not a guarantee...

Without a shadow of a doubt it would. I've been waiting my whole life for this.

See this argument falls flat with the rookie salary cap. Gone are the days when Sam Bradford and / or Jamarcus Russell rookie QB contracts would kill a team for 5 - 6 years if they didn't pan out.

Simply put there is no reason that KC should not address the QB position with a first round draft pick. No more excuses, just pull the damn trigger.

I'm not denying we need an upgrade at QB. If our QB pool was Smith, Daniel, and a JAG I'd say pull the trigger. But the deal is that we have a guy under contract that just happens to be the SEC all time leader in both TDs and yards not even dressing for the game. We have another guy, under contract, that has never left the IR/NFI in the regular season that probably would have been a 1st rounder if he would have waited another year and wouldn't have been such an airhead.
It seems prudent to me to start Murray or let him play in relief before we waste a #1. If he sucks, at least we know what we have.

Murray should play this year....especially if we're not making the playoffs. But Murray is not a reason to not draft a QB in the 1st round if we have a chance.

Never, ever underestimate the education level of the True Fan.... I have family members, STH's that will openly tell you that they would rather be around the 7-9/10-6 mark every year than to draft a QB and compete for a championship.

Reason? Because they are scared he might not work out and he isn't a safe pick. He is risky and they would rather back in or sneak in to the playoffs here and there to try and make some noise....

I shit you not dude. They are so monumentally ****ing stupid its maddening... But they love the BBQ smoke, the noise record and the early 90's....

Waste a #1? We have wasted more #1 picks than any other franchise in the history of this sport...

Picking a QB in round 1 is never a waste in the modern day NFL... Picking OL in the round 1 is a waste when you don't have a QB....

Oh trust me, I have them in my family as well. Good friends that are Tru Fans as well. Will twist themselves into knots defending the JAG after JAG and KC puts into the QB position.

It's the O-Line...
The receivers always drop the ball...
RB is hurt...
The D lost the game not the QB...

The fear of drafting the next Ryan Leaf is so paralyzing. But another bust a OL is very appealing.