Joe Buck?
 

Firstly: I don't watch enough baseball to really have an opinion one way or the other.

That being said, I know people on here can't stand Joe Buck. I've been reading the hate for a while and people complaining about him commentating the series.

I woke up to local sports radio, and those guys were ALSO bashing Joe Buck. Then every caller that called in was bashing Joe Buck and saying how the technical difficulty time was so wonderful because Joe Buck wasn't on the air.

So, my question: is this a pretty universal feeling outside of Cardinals land? Has Joe Buck jumped the shark? Will the network continue to give him major gigs if there's this much dislike of the guy's commentating?

imo joe buck isn't that popular in cardinals land.
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It's not just Royals fans.

NO ONE likes Joe Buck.

People are whiny b*tches. A lot of them hang out on this board. Mainly Joe just calls the game like any other announcer. People are lame. Joe Buck is just doing his job. That being said he is not my favorite. But hate? Stupid people can't keep things in perspective.

Everybody bashes him. For everything.


It means he's doing his job well.

That's . . . not what that means.

Him and Aikman are two of my least favorite when calling an NFL game.
Followed by Dan Fouts, and Solomon Wilcotts.

It also means that fans are whiny, sensitive candyasses.

Chris colinsworth on the other hand, good lord. His voice and football take are like nails on a chalk board. Hate, though? Football announcers aren't important enough to hate. Perspective people, perspective.

Well, that's true. But there are plenty of commentators/on-air personalities that don't engender hatred from ALL corners.

The hate comes from how he uses his voice.

When he points out an issue with the Royals, Mets, etc., it sounds like he is slamming or downing them. You only notice it when he speaks about your team.

FWIW, he said the Royals have the best team since the 1998 Yankees on ESPN radio midway through the Toronto series. He doesn't hate the Royals.

I've never understood the JB hate, but then again, I don't hang on everything Play-By-Play and Color Commentators say. I didn't hear their broadcast last night, so it sounded great to me:)

He has an uncanny ability to make fans think he's rooting against your team no matter what. Royals fans threw a fit last year, due to his love for MadBum, but what we fail to realize is that the Giants fans were up in arms toward him as well. No matter who you are, Joe Buck hates your team.

I guess I don't really care.

I just read in the game thread that "Joe Buck sat silent, while Gordon's HR traveled through the air".

In reality, Buck saying nothing was perfect. All you needed to hear was the crack of the bat and the vibration of the stadium as it cleared 440ft.

Edit: of course that was DeBerg who said it and he's pretty much a dolt.

The talk radio people were saying that he has a good voice, but that the stuff he says is idiotic. The one last night. In extra innings, "This is what it comes down to at this point. A Guy delivering a pitch. A guy trying to hit the pitch."

No shit, brah. That's been the last 12 innings as well.

And then stuff like just saying a person's name as "commentary." He'll be like, "Manny Ramirez..." And that's it.

I don't even think Buck was the worst of them, and I stand by my post on FB that if you would have had a drinking game that involved the name Harvey you would have ended up in the hospital with alcohol poisoning in 1/3 of an inning.

I thought he was just fine last night.

That quote sounds like it belongs in an episode of "The Simpsons" or "Futurama".

Baseball fans are used to 162 games of homer play by play crews.

this is true.
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This. I thought he gave credit where credit was deserved.

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I am one of the few that likes Collinsworth.

I think he's shoots pretty straight, and his voice is not an issue.

Joe Buck is fine. He's not exceptional, he's just fine. The complaints about Joe Buck are generally absurd.

This.
Don't really like him, but the irrational hatred and whining about bias is moronic.

This is the problem here. For NFL games, every game on TV is called by a neutral crew, but in baseball You watch a blatantly homer crew (especially us with Hudler, lol) for 6 long months, so people think thats normal. Then you abruptly shift to a neutral crew who is talking up both teams and looking for the storyline, and won't be so relentless about discussing how the Royals could come back any moment every inning they are down.

I don't mind him either. Not sure why people don't like him.

In my view, as good as the Yankees were in the first half of this game, that's how as bad they've been now

Main issue with Buck is that he goes to the extreme of what most PBP guys do - he gets stuck on a narrative or person and he just beats it to a pulp - most PBP guys move on and let the game create its own narrative. It's like he doesn't have much else to say but keep to his talking points. I think that's what drives most people bonkers.

All in all he's just a super-average PBP guy - but only when he's not caught up in his preferred narrative-loop.

Complete bull shit.

I take it you don't listen to him much.

Either that, or you're just a ****ing moron.

I'm in Ohio and don't have that luxury. When I get to see telecasts on ESPN, MLB Network, etc., You don't usually get the local feed. They are a HUGE difference than Bum-semen breathe Buck.

I thought he was outstanding last night.... I watched the entire game (except with MLB International had the call) on MUTE last night...

It sucked cause I want to hear the crowd, etc... But if I have a choice between Joe Buck or silence, I take silence every time.

joe buck is an assclown and should be banned from tv.

Just about all of my hate comes from the WS last year. His courtship of Mad Bum was cringworthy.

His boner for rookies is absurd. In the past Brandon Backe was Cy Young. Last year it was a complete balls deep on Panik...and EVERY AB he had to say "the outstanding rookie" Panik. This year it is "future superstar" Camponoro or whatever that turds name is. Who the **** cares if a guy is getting postseason ABs as a "rookie" if he's hitting under .100

Some people seem to have a very low tolerance for very minor things.

I was excited to get the international broadcast. Matt V is great. Joe Buck latches onto things and that is all he effing talks about. You would think that Murphy was Mantle or Ruth they way he was talking him up. He was just a .280 hitter with 14 homers in the regular season. A guy that just got hot. Enough already with the constant handjob he is giving Murphy.

Also they kept talking about how great Harvey was and not giving Ed much credit. They basically had the same effin pitching line last night.

Oh how about this Duda cat. He's really warming up...it goes on an on. Eff Joe Buck.

Yup. I notice things easily and it's annoying as **** things like that drive me bonkers.

Lucas Duda isn't Jim Thome let alone the Barry Bonds slurping he got ROFL

This. He kind of comes off as a non-informed bandwagon fan for BOTH sides. No real depth, just OMG DID YOU HEAR HOW AWESOME THIS GUY IS?!!??!!!

I don't HATE him, but I wish they'd at least vary the announcing teams a little bit just to get some variety.

Exactly. Guy got two hits to beat the shift....but you would have thought he hit three dingers.

GOOD THING HE ISN'T A ROOKIE!

I think that kind of thing is typical of most national announcers who overhype everything.

Well, you may be right.

NOW GTFO!


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I'll give you that, once Buck thinks he's found the story of the game, whether its something that highlights the Royals or the other team, he'll stubbornly hang on to it like a dog with his favorite chew toy.

Joe Panik made the best defensive play of the 2014 WS last year in game 7, by diving headlong for Hosmer's ground ball up the middle in the 3rd with nobody out.
Not only did he get to it, he flipped it with his glove to 2nd and Crawford, (after a review and the first reversal in WS a history) turned it into a double play. That play took the wind out of the sails as the Royals managed on one hit in the next 5 innings.


Joe Panik is a big game, big play stud.

With the technology out there it would be nice if they are broadcasting the game with two crews we could choose. The international broadcast was so much better with Matt V. Would be funny with Buck hate, Fox would get the message when millions choose Matt.

Oh and by the way less than one minute into the Broadcast Buck referenced Madbum definitely an obsession.

I think it's funny how common it's become. People just rip the guy to shreds. I think it's one of those things where the ball starts rolling down the hill and it becomes a mob.

I think he can get carried away on a single topic sometimes but I don't think he favors any team. His call of Cain's run in game 6 last series was great. He's shown plenty of excitement for Royals plays.

I also like that he has a sense of humor about the whole thing. I think that's what I do like about him. A lot of people wouldn't have fun with it but Buck does.

Yes. We all know this.

It's just not necessary for Joe to blather on about it.

People cry way too much about him. I'm surprised it's so over the top here. I expect it from the casual fan, but less from the crowd here.

I guess it's the old pussification of America thing.

Announcers in general are awful. The Cardinals local homer announcers make Rex look like a drafturbator.

Agreed. I think there's some genuine displeasure with him but a lot of it is people running with it and having some fun.

Same with Royals GDT pessimism.

I like Joe Buck on NFL broadcasts but can't stand him on baseball telecasts.

As someone else mentioned, it was a breath of fresh air to hear the international feed. I didn't hear any bias, whatsoever.

When the regular Fox broadcast returned, I hit the mute button for the rest of the game.

Without FS1 and not much desire to follow baseball closely outside of the Royals, I've not seen enough of Buck to either like him or dislike him.

But I still got a chuckle with this... :)

Exactly this...

I just hate how he'll go John madden about Favre on a player. Example: bumgarner in the series last year sounded like he was begging for a mouth load of baby gravy.

I've found Harold Reynolds to be quite annoying this playoff run, esp. in the ALCS.

I'm not the biggest Buck fan at all but he's been tolerable IMO during our games.

Verducci's jokes and quips are just....:facepalm: yeah...

This is what I didn't really know and was asking, I guess. I was curious if this is a national phenomenon and widespread or if it's just pockets of hate.

Its pretty national.... No one likes the guy...

It seems as if Joe Buck alienates every fan of each game he broadcasts. I had people on my Facebook feed say they preferred watching ESPN Desportes, catching every tenth word, as opposed to listening to Joe Buck.

And the worst part is that he's not entertaining. Love him or hate him, Howard Cossel was entertaining. Dennis Miller was entertaining.

Joe Buck is just annoying.

Dane will probably know this because he's Dane, but I guess I never realized that the international broadcast had different announcers.
I mean, why? It was just a couple of white American guys doing a broadcast like any other. It's not like they had Latinos catering to a different demo and market. What's the point?


EDIT: Probably a different rights holder and Fox was just being allowed to use their feed.

Your edit is correct: MLB Network owns the rights to the International Feed and they allowed Fox to use their broadcast while the issue in the Fox truck was being resolved.

I like Joe Buck. I also like Troy Aikman.

I can't say there's a single commentator that I dislike.

You nailed it. This is mob mentality at it's worst. I'm not a big fan of the guy, but I don't have anything against him either.

He's been fine, IMO. I really enjoy Dan Shulman on ESPN Radio.

I think it was Funny or Die that did a whole skit about it. It's pretty funny. Joe Buck played along.
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I know several Card fans who hate him & McCarver. They love his dad & Mike Shannon though.

Harold Reynolds is the true dumbshit in the booth.

That guy is just a complete moron. Joe Buck has a "punch me" face and voice.

"Just a guy with a ball and a guy with a stick...best part of playoff baseball"

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Mike Greenberg does this. He takes some side issue, makes it seem like the most important topic in the world, and beats it to death. Meanwhile completely ignoring more interesting subjects.

I usually don't notice them too much...there isn't really a commentator today that annoys me too much.

The Cubs announcers have always annoyed the hell out of me, though...and that's probably because they were so homeristic towards that ****-ass of a team. I HATED, HATED, HATED Steve Stone!!!!

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Good thread. I, too, don't get the hate. I know he loved Baumgartner last year but I didn't think it was hate worthy.

His job is to bring drama into the game, to fill down time and to make things more exciting.

He's annoying as hell doing it, and he's going to need to call his doctor for his big market team erection that lasts more than 4hrs.

ROFL

He was on Le Batard this morning talking about not discussing Volquez' father. He said all he knew was the Rpyals PR guy said the wife didn't want him to know and there is no way he's going to be the guy that tells a man his dad died via television. He earned some respect with that.

I'm with Milkman. I enjoy Collinsworth, but I realize I am in the minority. People give me the weirdest looks when I tell them I like him.

I'll tell you who I hate.....****ing Solomon Wilcots. I find him terribly annoying.

Bring back Dick Enberg.