Alex Smith >> Matt Cassel
 

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ROFL

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Cassel is as bad as it gets.

Well yeah give alex smith time he can succeed give matt cassel time he will fail.

Well, no shit.

Steve DeBerg was better than Steve Pelluer too.

The sack he took on the next play was worse.

Indeed
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Deberg > ASS11

Shit is shit.

Who gives a rat's ass if it's solid or runny?

Note that the clock was running, and they had no timeouts. That sack cost them 25 seconds with under a minute left.

It depends if a fart is involved.

Well, solid's easier to clean up after at least.

Either way, it's just good manners to flush.

The fact we're comparing/have compared our current qb to Matt Cassel makes me sad.

A shat is a shat, time to change the drawers.

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Your day nurse

I gather I am in the minority here because I liked DeBerg. He didn't have any talent, but had a truckload of guts. Maybe my memory is tricking me, but I cant remember a play 1 where he didn't give 110% (of what he had).

As for the Smith/Cassel debate, aint that like arguing my left foot stinks worse than my right?:shrug:

There's a very short list of Alex Smith >> ____________.

You arent. He was a tough gritty guy that wasnt afraid to stretch the field.

Points are over rated. Besides expecting a QB to throw at least 1 TD a game is just crazy.

Then you add Smith's rushing yards it puts him top 5 in All-purpose yards for QB's

And people like Brock said Alex Smith can't move the ball ROFL

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"All purpose yards" for a QB as a talking point. Desperate mother****ers.

You have 15 years worth of posts on here that proves your lack of knowledge of football. Remind me, were you one of the Bowe apologists and did you cheer on the Cassel trade? Or was it both??

You have to sift through minutia to find something good to say about smith. LOL

You have to compare smith to the worst qb in the league to make him seem passable. LOL

I don't think Brock has ever in his life been enthused about anything, . . . except calling someone else an asshole or reerun.

Trolling, suck is suck.

As opposed to being enthusiastic about eating and watching tv, good luck with that

Why thanks, you seem nice.

You're most welcome, baby

So he provides as much insight as an 8 year old with tourette's syndrome

He's just gwumpy

So Tiger, are you advocating Smith should be the QB for the Chiefs?

Where's the insight you think you're providing? You do know you're a universal joke on this board, right?

Did I upset you? :deevee:

I rely on facts to support my claims, whereas people like you and Clay are cancers that spread filthy nonsense all over this place.

why would I be upset by one of the 3 fans smith has left? I feel sorry for you sad sacks.

10 years enough?

So he's Smith fan but wont admit it, or just not in this thread.

He's unapologetically attached to Smith's ballsack.

Whether one is a Smith fan or not, the opening thesis is clearly true. Smith >> Cassel.

Well, that explains it. The point of the thread matches the point on his head.

Refferring to pocket protection

That's like arguing what dump smells better, just shut the bathroom door.

I support the organization's decision to bring in a proven game manger for the right price. He's not Rodgers and doesn't get paid like a top QB at 22+ million a year. His contract over its 6 year lifetime with the Chiefs will average just over 14 mil a year (seeing how he was an 8 mil a year QB for us in each of 2013 and 2014). Even if you ignore that he's getting back paid for those 2 years, 17 mil/year is still a good price as by 2017 he will middle of the pack in cost when compared to other QBs.

Look at how much other teams like Chicago and Detroit are paying for train wrecks like Cutler and Stafford for $17/mil year long term in current NFL cap terms... the Chiefs got a very, very fair deal.

we traded for somebody's trash again. we paid the trash with a long term deal again. it didn't work again. that's pretty much the story.

Doresy, that you?

Has to be in the Chiefs payroll.

Well....As for the OP, if Clay wasn't temp banned, I'm almost certain he's got .gifs of Smith making throws just as poor as the Cassel example.

Are you insinuating that Alex isn't a trainwreck? My how a couple of recent wins wipes folks memories. Need I remind you that just a few weeks ago Alex was out dueled at home by one of the train wrecks you mentioned in your post?

Only about 20 or so

EVERYONE is a 'trainwreck' part of the time. That's why it's important to have a defense than can pressure quickly. It's what turns Mannings into Leafs. Heck, it's what turns regular season Mannings into playoff Mannings.

But like I've been saying for some time now, Chiefs fans have QB mania, mostly because it's the ONLY thing in the sport left to wear out from tight virgin to weathered wizard's sleeve. Everything that goes wrong from defense collapses to rising parking prices goes straight to Alex. All his worst throws are judged, not against other QB's entire games, but 5 minutes of Sportscenter Top 10.

This isn't Madden. You can't look at power ratings and know everything about how the program will play out. Everyone on the team is expected to wake up every morning striving to get better, THAT INCLUDES the GM being every vigilant for a better QB, or RB, or, or, or. THAT INCLUDES the QBs, the D, the lines, the coaches.

You can't say everything on this team can and will improve, except this one thing. It's a synergy. They all lift each other up and bring each other down.

I don't mind Alex weariness, I don't mind Alex pessimism. But this has metastasized into this stasis where people root for misfortune, downplay every positive development, pump up every opponent we haven't met, belittle every opponent we beat, and flatly state NOTHING can ever happen on the team that's positive until the one magical problem is obliterated.

It's stupid.

If being a Chiefs fan were merely the experience here, no sane person would continue. Fortunately I know;

I'm still hoping the best for the team,
No one there is listening to a word this place says
Players are staying, working, and growing, and aren't going anywhere unless actual superior talent is unearthed by the front office.

No offense, Baby Lee, I enjoy your posts, but I don't need a pep talk or lesson on how to be a fan. I can see for myself which areas of the team need improvement. My posts were in response to one dip shit who continues to do his best to blow smoke up our asses about a specific player.

Yet you never have a cross word for anyone who tantrums with '**** it, lose em all, fire em all, we'll never win anything important no matter what, I'm leaving forever unless this specific personnel move is made, etc. etc.

I'm just explaining MY position, and 'no offense' I don't need the MIDDLE of the SEASON to be the time when every Chiefs fan is only interested in 'when is he gone' and who do we draft, and trade everyone worth anything, and maybe we'll be good with everyone replaced in 2022, because we KNOW next week [and next week, and next week] we're getting slaughtered, so.'

We that have 9 months out the year nonstop, plus the instant the team is mathematically eliminated to mope over that. We almost made it to that point, but they practiced the sin of showing signs of life.

So maybe a week or two of pretending the Chiefs actually compete in the NFL isn't overly solicitous?

Yes, you do. Quit putting the ***** (QB envy/obsession) on the pedestal.

Alex is better than a team's 3rd string QB. Wow, what an endorsement!

Nope.

I will say this, Alex can sure beat third string qbs and teams with awful records.

We lose.

A lot.

We could argue over why but, why?...

Actually, it appears that the Decent Alex turns into the Bad Alex when his team gets behind.....which happens less with third string QBs and bad teams. Not sure why, but his game seems to go to hell under the pressure of having to make a comeback. Interdasting.

3-point deficits are just too much for the poor guy.

Nah, he's better than that.....but not much. He sure as shit can't come back from -14 nor make a fourth quarter comeback. Actually, you'd think the Law of Large Numbers would kick in and he'd simply get lucky with a comeback, but nope. Guy has some serious anti-mojo sphincter pucker going on. Pretty impressive, in a non-impressive sort of way. Dude is a conundrum.

When was Tom Brady ever a train wreck?

Never, honey poo. Never. Shhhhh, go to sweepy. Nobody said ANY THING MEAN!!! Here, give us a hug.

Dude, he's the GOAT, and even he has had plenty of stretches where he was less than stellar. He gotten flustered. He gotten hurried. He's been reliant on the rest of his team to carry him.

Not stretches as in entire seasons. Stretches, periods of time when you're not at your best.

What you're suffering is nostalgia, which is fine. There's plenty of Brady highlights to form nostalgia around. And he's probably playing his best ball ever now.

You're refusal to accept this is an element of proof of my hypothesis that we as Chiefs fans judge Chief QB play more against the ESPN highlight reel than a broader understanding of the game.

Brady was an abortion at Arrowhead last year and even Pats fans were calling for his head. How soon people forget when it's other teams.

Yep and at the same time you have shitty QBs look like franchise guys for a game, a few game stretch of even for a season. Geno had a perfect qb rating the last game of the season, Fitzpatrick had 6TDs in a game, Matt Cassell 2010 oerformance. ASS11 has even had a few really good games and not horrible total seasons in his 10 year career.

It's easier to find a Joe Flacco in the draft than to build an elite defense. You know, the super bowl mvp who scored 34 against the third ranked defense in 2013.

Buffalo has had a great defense the past few years, how have they done without a franchise quarterback?