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Couch-Potato 11-05-2015 10:10 AM

RG3, Kaepernick, Johnny Football?
 
Watching first take currently and they're discussing how all three of these QBs [RG3, Kaepernick & Johnny Football] need new homes in the offseason...


Where do you think they land?


Are you interested in bringing any one of the three to KC?

kepp 11-05-2015 10:12 AM

The only one I'd remotely consider is RG3, but I have a vomit-inducing feeling they'll go after Kaepernick.

ptlyon 11-05-2015 10:14 AM

Bring them in for a huge contract?

KC_Lee 11-05-2015 10:16 AM

Because the endless parade of other team's trash has generated so much success, either regular season or more importantly post-season, in the past.

Let's keep that model going.

BlackHelicopters 11-05-2015 10:17 AM

No thanks.

Couch-Potato 11-05-2015 10:17 AM

I'm thinking RG3 to the Texans, and Kaep to the Eagles. Chiefs stand pat stubbornly, but likely a wise choice.

Eleazar 11-05-2015 10:20 AM

No, no, hell no.

Saul Good 11-05-2015 10:21 AM

I'd take Manziel. That would kick ass.

oldman 11-05-2015 10:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cochise (Post 11865086)
No, no, hell no.

You read my mind. We already have a wacko under contract.

Couch-Potato 11-05-2015 10:44 AM

RG3- Texans
Kaep- Eagles
JF- Cowboys backup?


...Bradford to browns?

KC native 11-05-2015 10:53 AM

No, no, and no.

Chiefs should draft Boykin so they get a better version of RG3.

BossChief 11-05-2015 11:02 AM

**** that.

DRAFT THIS TEAMS NEXT QB FFS.

Enough with these bullshit threads. Anyone that wants this team to go after another scrap heap garbage QB and"coach him up" should have their balls removed.

KC_Lee 11-05-2015 11:34 AM

The only move KC needs to make regarding these QBs....


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Eleazar 11-05-2015 11:41 AM

No more retreads, and definitely no washouts

ToxSocks 11-05-2015 11:51 AM

IF i had to pick one, I'd pick Kaep.

Kaep and RGIII are the same guy, except Kaep can at least stay healthy.

Hog's Gone Fishin 11-05-2015 02:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Saul Good (Post 11865087)
I'd take Manziel. That would kick ass.

THIS !!!

ThaVirus 11-05-2015 02:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 11865217)
IF i had to pick one, I'd pick Kaep.

Kaep and RGIII are the same guy, except Kaep can at least stay healthy.

I actually like RGIII better from a potential talent perspective.

But I like Kaep's size and durability better.

Both seem to be pretty intelligent guys based on what I've read about them, but I don't like what I've seen from either when it comes to football smarts.

BigMeatballDave 11-05-2015 04:22 PM

Maybe RG3, maybe.

A definite NO on the other 2.

King_Chief_Fan 11-05-2015 04:26 PM

None until Andy is gone.

Rausch 11-05-2015 04:59 PM

Want none.

If anything I want to trade a HC and QB1...

Dylan 11-05-2015 05:06 PM

is this tonight's Thursday Night Football thread?

that's all.

Rausch 11-05-2015 05:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dylan (Post 11865745)
is this tonight's Thursday Night Football thread?

that's all.

Don't take this the wrong way but I'd buy two drinks for that goth-gal in your avatar before flipping a quarter to watch the Giants on TNF...

Deberg_1990 11-05-2015 05:26 PM

RGIII for sure. He still has the most upside and has actually had proven success even if it was just one season.


He was actually a very efficient passer his rookie year.

The Franchise 11-05-2015 05:28 PM

If I had to choose between the three of them.....I'd go with RG3. And that's only if he takes a backup QB's contract and sits for 1-2 more years. Learn the offense, get healthy and put some ****ing weight on.

Eleazar 11-05-2015 05:44 PM

It just boggles the mind that there are people who have seen all we have seen from Griffin - one good season 4 years ago, constant injury since then, the attitude problems, the sniping in the press, zero sign of any maturity whatsoever - and people still think he's worth taking a chance on. He is nothing. He has no upside.

There is not one thing in the world to distinguish him from any of these other one-read QBs who came into the league while that fad was in.

And if you look at the competitors, Krapernick sucks and is immature but at least he's durable. Manziel sucks and is immature but you could pollyanna your way into thinking if he kicks all his substance issues he might be worth a chance. Neither has had as much of a chance to learn to play quarterback as Griffin has. Griffin is the one that makes zero sense among the others that might make 0.5% sense.

GloucesterChief 11-05-2015 05:51 PM

None of the above.

Read Option QBs have been figured out.

ILChief 11-05-2015 06:04 PM

I'd rather just start Aaron Murray

ThaVirus 11-05-2015 06:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 11865771)
If I had to choose between the three of them.....I'd go with RG3. And that's only if he takes a backup QB's contract and sits for 1-2 more years. Learn the offense, get healthy and put some ****ing weight on.


Isn't the dude like 6'2" 220? He's a decent size, I think it's just proportioned in a way that he appears to have twigs for legs.

More important than adding any weight for him would be learning how/when to slide or run out of bounds. Seriously, the guy gets absolutely lit the **** up on about 75% of carries.

Jewish Rabbi 11-05-2015 06:55 PM

Johnny. ****ing. Football.

tecumseh 11-05-2015 07:30 PM

I'll take the unknown. I doubt any of these guys will be starting in two years.

Dylan 11-05-2015 07:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 11865749)
Don't take this the wrong way but I'd buy two drinks for that goth-gal in your avatar before flipping a quarter to watch the Giants on TNF...

Pumpkin, can you please start the Thursday Night Football Game Thread - It's On :D

Anyone?

It's Jawney Football time

Thanks in advance!

Simply Red 11-05-2015 07:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Saul Good (Post 11865087)
I'd take Manziel. That would kick ass.

so crazy I betcha it happens.

MahiMike 11-05-2015 07:45 PM

Stafford after Detoilet cleans house.

Spott 11-05-2015 08:01 PM

Just what this team needs is more reject QB's from other franchises, especially the 49ers.

Dave Lane 11-05-2015 08:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 11865749)
Don't take this the wrong way but I'd buy two drinks for that goth-gal in your avatar before flipping a quarter to watch the Giants on TNF...

The original is better...

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Dave Lane 11-05-2015 08:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spott (Post 11865956)
Just what this team needs is more reject QB's from other franchises, especially the 49ers.

Its worked so well before!

dls6501 11-05-2015 09:32 PM

I don't want a single one of them near our team. If someone had a gun to my head and told me to pick one, I guess it would be Kaepernick based on his work ethic. All three have subpar skills, lack football smarts and are immature. Kap would be the lesser of the three evils since at least he works hard.

007 11-06-2015 07:00 AM

no. No. NO!!!

Draft one until you hit. I'm sick and tired of living on retreads and getting nowhere.

bevischief 11-06-2015 09:49 AM

Unless you can combine them into one QB maybe...

Pasta Little Brioni 11-06-2015 09:52 AM

Turd convention?

New World Order 11-06-2015 09:57 AM

If I had to absolutely choose between the 3 I would go Crapernick.

O.city 11-06-2015 11:21 AM

Amazing that Kaep performed the best of all of them when in a stable functional environment, the other 2 were with the browns and skins.

Huh, maybe there's something to that

Mile High Mania 11-06-2015 11:30 AM

I think I'd rather have Tebow...

Mile High Mania 11-06-2015 11:41 AM

Also, I think nobody is realizing we're seeing a slow fade to Cam Newton's numbers year over year. Go look at them...

http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/stats/...994/cam-newton

In 1-2 years, he'll be considered spare to fare, that's my HSO of the day.

And, as a follow up there, Cam has been mentioned by some as a possible MVP candidate... I'm not seeing it. I get that his team has been on a great win streak going back to 2014, but I'm not seeing it.

Not including the rushing numbers here, but as a comparison... he only has 3 more rushing TDs than the 3 people I'm comparing him to in the data below.

Without looking, which is Cam? (stats YTD)

A - 1,442 passing yards / 8 TD / 4 INT / 87.5 rating
B - 1,523 passing yards / 11 TD / 7 INT / 78.1 rating
C - 1,969 passing yards / 9 TD / 3 INT / 92. rating
D - 1,615 passing yards / 6 TD / 5 INT / 78.8 rating

FD 11-06-2015 11:47 AM

I don't think you can lump Manziel in with RG3 or Kaepernick. Kaepernick has played in the Superbowl, RG3 had one of the greatest rookie seasons of any QB ever. Manziel is just garbage.

chiefzilla1501 11-06-2015 11:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 11866707)
Amazing that Kaep performed the best of all of them when in a stable functional environment, the other 2 were with the browns and skins.

Huh, maybe there's something to that

This. Kaepernick failed with good pieces around him.
RgIII is the most intriguing of the three. There are few qbs in our time that have dealt with as much dysfunction as he did.

But far as I'm concerned, why get a veteran project when you can get a rookie project

O.city 11-06-2015 11:52 AM

What qbs have dealt with dysfunction?

chiefzilla1501 11-06-2015 11:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 11866802)
What qbs have dealt with dysfunction?

No QB has dealt with more than RGIII.

thabear04 11-06-2015 11:57 AM

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap300...blaine-gabbert

Niners OC sees some of Alex Smith in Blaine Gabbert

With the San Francisco 49ers moving to Blaine Gabbert for Sunday's tilt against the Atlanta Falcons, offensive coordinator Geep Chryst compared the signal-caller to a certain former Niners quarterback: Alex Smith.

Smith, like Gabbert, was drafted at 21 and needed to adapt from a spread run system into a pocket passer. Chryst, who was with Smith in 2011 and 2012, believes with time and a fresh opportunity Gabbert can follow Smith's path to becoming a stable quarterback.


"Alex came here, was very young and played, had to slug out a lot of tough situations," Chryst said Thursday, via ESPN.com. "We felt like Blaine had all this talent, and as a young player, maybe a change of scenery would be good for him. He's really applied himself well in the classroom. He's engaged and active; he's a really bright guy."

Comparing and contrasting Smith and Gabbert could make your eyes bleed. The Around The NFL Podcast aptly discusses the "Gabbert-zone" for quarterbacks that hover around the 5-to-6 yards per attempt mark. Smith lives in that zone. But at least Smith has become a competent quarterback who can run an offense and win games. We've seen nothing from Gabbert to suggest he can turn it around.

For his career, Gabbert has a 53.0 completion percentage, 159.4 passing yards per game, a 22-24 TD-INT ratio and a 66.1 passer rating -- the lowest rating in the NFL since 2011. He has a 5-22 record and lost his last 10 starts.

The move to Gabbert feels like the inverse of when Colin Kaepernick usurped Smith's job in 2012. At the time Jim Harbaugh stuck with the player he believed had upside. The move to Gabbert is a desperation heave.

"He does get the ball out differently; that's just his style of play," Chryst said of Gabbert. "We'll see if that matches up with a spark that we want to get, in terms of the pass game, getting the ball out. But our charge is to still get the run game going.

"We have to let it play out ... where we are as an offense, we've got to do something. And we'll leave no stone unturned trying to come up with a plan to win Sunday."

That has to be depressing for San Francisco 49ers fans to read. "We've got to do something" feels like the worst reason to make a changes. Especially one to Blaine Gabbert.

Red Dawg 11-06-2015 12:36 PM

All three of them need find a different line of work. If you can't win games from the pocket using your brain then you are not NFL QB material.

None of them will be anything more that an every once in awhile winner.

KINGPIN CHIEFS FAN 11-06-2015 01:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MahiMike (Post 11865924)
Stafford after Detoilet cleans house.

This is the only retread that I would consider. If we could get rid of Alex and trade for Stafford we would have a real quarterback. I know we can't unload Alex but it's nice to dream.

Pasta Little Brioni 11-06-2015 01:18 PM

To clean Arrowhead toilets?

New World Order 11-06-2015 04:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 11866707)
Amazing that Kaep performed the best of all of them when in a stable functional environment, the other 2 were with the browns and skins.

Huh, maybe there's something to that


Don't give them any ideas.

Dylan 11-06-2015 10:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave Lane (Post 11866038)

The artwork was featured in both colors - pink and blue.

I am curious, why were you looking for the artwork?

However, since you did find it, can you resize the photo down to 150 by 150 pixels so I can see if I like it better in blue?

Please use the photo from the original Website where I found it at the time:

http://gallsource.com/fashion-wallpa...wallpaper.html

I think I did try the blue at first but found the artwork in pink more eye catching - to me anyway.


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