Matt Stafford?
 

NFL.com's Ian Rapoport reports Matthew Stafford's Lions future beyond 2015 is "very much in doubt."

https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/662329766633193472

Lions fired GM Martin Mayhew and team president Tom Lewand.

There has been no word on the status of coach Jim Caldwell, who is also on the hot seat. Mayhew took over GM duties during the Lions' 0-16 2008 campaign. He drafted Matthew Stafford as the first overall pick in 2009 and landed Ndamukong Suh in the first round a year later. Mayhew's more recent selections, such as Kyle Van Noy in the second round a year ago and Darius Slay in 2013, have not fared as well, and the departure of Suh and 2011 first-round pick Nick Fairley in free agency this offseason left the defense lacking talent. Despite the struggles this year, the Lions made the playoffs twice in Mayhew's tenure, the only two playoff berths for the franchise since 1999. With the man who drafted him now out of the picture, Stafford's future with the team is uncertain. He is owed a $17 million base salary next season, and Detroit could save $11.5 million against the 2016 cap by moving him.

http://www.rotoworld.com/sports/nfl/football

Stafford would have cap hits of $17M and $16.5M for the next two years since Detroit would have to eat his signing bonus.

I highly doubt the Chiefs swap Smith for Stafford.

Andy already has his guy.

We have Bray.

Younger. Stronger Arm. Cheaper. Better.

No more retreads.

Bring him in for a look.

No more retreads.

Can he run Kubiak's offense and all of a sudden turn smart? I dunno.

Matt Stafford?
 

He sucks.

He's probably got the best arm talent in the league but his footwork is horrid as it's always been. He seems to have no desire to work toward fixing it. Plus he obviously has trouble reading defenses.

You also have to wonder how much of his success, when he was having it, could be attributed to having a top 5 of all time WR.

Stafford has better weapons and still looked worse than Alex Smith

Neither team has a good Oline

Detroit's offensive line is worse than ours....and that's saying something. Their OGs are young and have the upside....but those OTs ****ing suck.

Yea, but an elite QB like Stafford shouldn't let poor Oline play effect his production. That is the CP rule, isn't it? Smith on the other hand is the shittiest QB in the history of the NFL.

Stafford isn't elite.

andy reid is such an idiot

How about this crazy plan; stop picking up other failed 1.1 pick QBs and drafting our own QB around 1.15 to 1.20???

I know that's crazy talk but desperate times call for desperate measures.

No more ****ing retreads.

That can't be said enough.

Jets would be a good spot for him to go. He's never had a coach that's worth a shit, not that that is the entire problem.

Draft a first round QB.

I think Arizona should take a look at him. Palmer is almost done and Stafford would fit that offense perfectly.

fair enough

ROFL

Seriously though, who do you think we should trade for?...

Hmm, picking up another teams trash for high draft picks. That just might be crazy enough to work

With Gunther gone we have no ties there.

*dream dies...*

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap300...ent-tom-lewand

Lions fire GM Martin Mayhew, & president Tom Lewand

I'd go for it.

Dude was a 5000/46/17 QB at one point and he's only 27. There IS talent there.

Stafford has the pocket awareness of a rock. Do not want.

If we can trade straight up AS for MS, **** yeah.

Just locate one regardless of the round. Get 2. Whatever. Just play them.

No, but he does have an elite arm. Either too much or not enough going on upstairs. :)

Don't want. But don't judge Stafford by this year. The Lions receivers themselves accused Caldwell and staff of tipping offensive plays. And other defenses have confirmed this. There are bigger problems than Stafford in Detroit. That being said, he strikes me as a younger version of Cutler. Better than Alex but we don't need another retread.

I'd rather keep Smith than have Stafford honestly.

Stafford is absolutely terrible. Even in that 5000 yard year he was average. 75% of his career earnings should go to Calvin Johnson.

Average? 5000 yards, 41 TDs, 63% passing and a 60 QBR is a bit better than average. I wouldn't trade picks for him, but I'd trade AS for him in a second.

Stafford basically had back to back 5000 yd seasons in 11 and 12.
CJ had about 1700 and 2000 yrds in those seasons. He played a big part, but no, not 75% worth.

And at the times he wasn't catching passes, he was attracting so much attention that he might as well have been catching passes.

The thing to me is...Stafford like Smith hasn't shown the ability to win games by himself really. Maybe a game here and there but thats it. But he has shown a lot of ability to lose games by himself.

MX+Y=B.

If any of those, ANY OF THEM, is a negative number the answer is no.

HELL THE **** NO.

Matt Stafford has 14 4th quarter comebacks and 18 game winning drives. Not a point of argument....just stating a fact.

Stats can lie especially yardage totals. Id like to know how much of that yardage was 'garbage time' yards. How much of it was just Stafford getting more attempts per game because Detroits running game generally sucked.

Hope you do that with every QB then.

How many of those are necessitated by the fact that he threw multiple interceptions in the game?

Game winning drives and comebacks are a misleading stats to me because they don't account for what the player did in the 3 quarters prior.
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The year he got 5000 yards I believe he had the most pass attempts in NFL history
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Stafford would fit the KC profile great. Save you guys from drafting a QB since that is against he religion there.

So game winning drives only count when the defense lets you down? Or maybe it's just when the running game is shit?

Nice try.

Not a b/u for NE or SF...

25 games with multiple interceptions. 40 games with 60% or less completion. He's not good.
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No I dont give people credit for cleaning up messes that they made .
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LMAO @ King

Stafford is not as bad as you seem to think.

I'm sure he's been a part of some super talented teams....right?

2009: 2-14
2010: 6-10
2011: 10-6
2012: 4-12
2013: 7-9
2014: 11-5

I bet that's all his fault though.

No one here is claiming that Stafford is elite or even that we should jump at the chance to get him on this team.

What I'm simply claiming is that he's not as shitty as people make him out to be. He's basically Andrew Luck at this point. Tons of weapons with no ****ing offensive line to keep him upright. And because of that....he forces the ball and ends up with a bunch of INTs.

I AM! :)

Well, if they'll take Alex Smith in Trade. :D

Matt Stafford?
 

I seem to recall having many debates with you about Andrew Luck

Lets talk about how overrated Russel Wilson is... :)

No he's bad. Worse fundamentals than Cutler. Accuracy problems and a tendency to throw to the other team. He just throws the ball up in Calvin's general direction and prays it works out
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I was blasted here for saying Stafford was overrated this past offseason.

Chiefs love Alex-he will retire here. Makes enough plays to keep the team out of the cellar and making money. Money is the bottom line. They won't bring in Stafford the interception machine- he would cost too much and hurt the bottom line with a losing record.

I wanted him when he first came out of Georgia. Maybe with Reid.... MAYBE.... he could become a great quarterback, but I personally don't think we need to trade Smith for Stafford. I'd rather go with the College QB route than hitch the wagon to another veteran.

:LOL: Okay

He really doesn't throw that many INTs. Just 17 when he threw it over 700 times.

I've never denied that Luck sometimes creates his own problems. Ive never used comebacks or gwd as proof of how good he is. But we can agree that Luck and Stafford are on two very different qb classes right?
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96 interceptions in 85 games is a lot of interceptions .
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Iiiiiiiiii don't know, man. I don't know.

I mean, Stafford is ass, but Luck's been horrid this season too. Prior to last Sunday's game, Luck had the third lowest QBR of any QB in the league. They both have similar talents (big arm, 3rd year explosion, disappointing performances thereafter).

I'll give it a few more years to make the determination.

Eye test does tell me that Luck is the better QB, though. I never loved Stafford. His footwork makes his bad throws really tough to forgive.

I had also heard the coaching had suggested bringing someone in to help him work on his mechanics and he shrugged it off as if everything were gravy and he didn't need it.

That's douchey, non-leaderlike behavior. Plus he has a VERY punchable face, let's be honest.

This year? Yeah Luck is a bottom 5 QB. Just plain trash. But at least he has great fundamentals so I can see he can improve and bounce back. Stafford still throws side arm off his backdoor most throws, I can't see him really getting much better.
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We can agree on that.

Luck, even in year 3, is about as coachable as could be. He's got everything you'd want in a QB. The size, confidence, the arm, the speed, and the durability.

He can be taught to get rid of the ball quicker and be more selective with his risky passes.

I'm not sure Stafford even wants to change.

I was gonna start this thread. They are 1 loss away from losing everybody.

Why not Stafford?

No retreads.

**** you for suggesting it.

Peyton threw 100 in his first 80 games.

Stafford sucks.

He's a 3% better than Kyle Boller QB. Huge arm that can't read defenses and doesn't have the personal drive to work on his flaws, which, to this point have been greatly exacerbated.

And without Megatron?

Remember Dante Culpepper and Randy Moss?

Same shit.

Yeah Stafford and young Manning totally have the same career track.

queue up the six million dollar man theme song.

What would he have been without Calvin Johnson these last few years?

no. No. NO!!!

Draft one until you hit. I'm sick and tired of living on retreads and getting nowhere.

Aka, the Cleveland Browns strategy.

at least they try. We don't even consider it.

You don't get special points for trying.

Wasting 1st rounders on people who aren't 1st round talent is not going to win a super bowl.

We have a history of passing on first round talent when they ARE there.

You're right. Drafting Dee Ford and Eric Fisher is a much better strategy.

What great 1st round QBs have we been in position to draft recently and passed on?

Do you take what's there, or do you take what isn't there?

This has been discussed several times before. If you don't know then I'm not bothering.

Oh, that's right, there wasn't a single QB available when we drafted either of those guys.

It happens a lot, every year by every team. Russel Wilson was passed over by every team at least twice.