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Dante84 04-30-2016 01:05 PM

****The Kevin Hogan Thread****
 
With the 162nd pick, in the 5th round

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MMXcalibur 04-30-2016 01:06 PM

NFL Network: "He's similar to Tyler Palko."

ChiefRocka 04-30-2016 01:07 PM

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Dante84 04-30-2016 01:07 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Kevin Hogan was the ninth-most accurate passer in this NFL draft class (75.8% accuracy rate)</p>&mdash; PFF Draft (@PFF_College) <a href="https://twitter.com/PFF_College/status/726487768319287298">April 30, 2016</a></blockquote>
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BlackHelicopters 04-30-2016 01:08 PM

Franchise QB

jonzie04 04-30-2016 01:08 PM

Pretty much a game manager at Stanford. Has the tools you want though.

Sandy Vagina 04-30-2016 01:08 PM

good pick.. Murray, Bray, and Hogan will battle it out. No real favorites.. may the best man win QB2.

notorious 04-30-2016 01:08 PM

He's a 5th rounder.

If he ends up being a backup, the Chiefs did well.

Dante84 04-30-2016 01:08 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Kevin Hogan was <a href="https://twitter.com/PFF_Steve">@PFF_Steve</a>&#39;s No. 11 QB prospect in his round-by-round quarterback rankings: <a href="https://t.co/IESo2OX6xk">https://t.co/IESo2OX6xk</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/ChiefsDraft?src=hash">#ChiefsDraft</a></p>&mdash; Pro Football Focus (@PFF) <a href="https://twitter.com/PFF/status/726488035890761728">April 30, 2016</a></blockquote>
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jd1020 04-30-2016 01:09 PM

One of these late round/UDFA QBs has to work out, right?

Dante84 04-30-2016 01:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by notorious (Post 12207937)
He's a 5th rounder.

If he ends up being a backup, the Chiefs did well.

"He could carry a clip board for 10 years" - NFL Network

Bowser 04-30-2016 01:09 PM

And Tomahawk wept

Easy 6 04-30-2016 01:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KCtotheSB (Post 12207922)
NFL Network: "He's similar to Tyler Palko."

LMAO

mcaj22 04-30-2016 01:09 PM

Hollywood Hogan brother

Dante84 04-30-2016 01:10 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I really, really like Kevin Hogan to the Chiefs. Don&#39;t think he&#39;ll ever be more than a QB2, but might be a spot starter.</p>&mdash; Matt Miller (@nfldraftscout) <a href="https://twitter.com/nfldraftscout/status/726488743079731201">April 30, 2016</a></blockquote>
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RunKC 04-30-2016 01:11 PM

It was either Lynch or Hogan. Glad we took Hogan since we didn't get Lynch. He can be the QBOTF

TLO 04-30-2016 01:11 PM

This makes my private parts tingle

Dante84 04-30-2016 01:12 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Kevin Hogan to the Chiefs makes all the sense in the world</p>&mdash; trey wingo (@wingoz) <a href="https://twitter.com/wingoz/status/726489122114703360">April 30, 2016</a></blockquote>
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Hog's Gone Fishin 04-30-2016 01:12 PM

4 QBs on the roster again. One has to go. Or practice squad Hogan.

eDave 04-30-2016 01:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dante84 (Post 12207955)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I really, really like Kevin Hogan to the Chiefs. Don&#39;t think he&#39;ll ever be more than a QB2, but might be a spot starter.</p>&mdash; Matt Miller (@nfldraftscout) <a href="https://twitter.com/nfldraftscout/status/726488743079731201">April 30, 2016</a></blockquote>
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The guy got exponentially better with Stanford. Let's hope he hasn't peaked.

O.city 04-30-2016 01:16 PM

Meh. What's the point of these late round guys?

Coach 04-30-2016 01:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 12208004)
Meh. What's the point of these late round guys?

Depth.

threebag 04-30-2016 01:18 PM

Looks like Bray to IR again

staylor26 04-30-2016 01:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 12208004)
Meh. What's the point of these late round guys?

Lol what?

chiefzilla1501 04-30-2016 01:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KCtotheSB (Post 12207922)
NFL Network: "He's similar to Tyler Palko."

Um, no. But he has some serious mechanical issues to work through. At this round it's a decent pick. But a big risk

Dante84 04-30-2016 01:21 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Kevin Hogan told me back at the combine that he welcomes the chance to sit behind an established starter and learn. <a href="https://t.co/kUWiozIzt6">pic.twitter.com/kUWiozIzt6</a></p>&mdash; BJ Kissel (@ChiefsReporter) <a href="https://twitter.com/ChiefsReporter/status/726491637036228608">April 30, 2016</a></blockquote>
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Mr_Tomahawk 04-30-2016 01:22 PM

****ing noodle arm. His arm is the weakest of the draft... Go figure.


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Deberg_1990 04-30-2016 01:23 PM

The next Steve Stenstrum. I'm excited!

listopencil 04-30-2016 01:23 PM

He could be your #2QB for years. Solid back up QB who fits the classic Parcells rules for drafting QB's.

DaneMcCloud 04-30-2016 01:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 12208004)
Meh. What's the point of these late round guys?

As I've mentioned several times, Philly and the Packers drafted late QB's like Brunell, Brooks, Feely, etc. then flipped them for high picks.

It's the smart play.

Hog's Gone Fishin 04-30-2016 01:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr_Tomahawk (Post 12208040)
****ing noodle arm. His arm is the weakest of the draft... Go figure.


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Mean while Alex Smith averages 6.7 yards per attempt.

threebag 04-30-2016 01:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr_Tomahawk (Post 12208040)
****ing noodle arm. His arm is the weakest of the draft... Go figure.


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LMAO

#TeamTomahawk

Predarat 04-30-2016 01:26 PM

Too cool, yet another QBOTFTWOPIPG

Mr_Tomahawk 04-30-2016 01:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hog Farmer (Post 12208054)
Mean while Alex Smith averages 6.7 yards per attempt.

Kevin Hogan's arm will make you miss Alex Smith's....

...terrible pick.

listopencil 04-30-2016 01:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr_Tomahawk (Post 12208060)
Kevin Hogan's arm will make you miss Alex Smith's....

...terrible pick.

If you end up being able to draft a young star QBOTF after Smith is gone then it will be nice to have a good back up established in the system for the team to lean on at first. By the time you need him Hogan could very well be that guy.

Hog's Gone Fishin 04-30-2016 01:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by listopencil (Post 12208086)
If you end up being able to draft a young star QBOTF after Smith is gone then it will be nice to have a good back up established in the system for the team to lean on at first. By the time you need him Hogan could very well be that guy.

Sounds good.

We'll be happy to trade him to you for Lynch.

lewdog 04-30-2016 01:34 PM

If this kid even gets to a Tyler Palko level of skill and can start a game in the NFL, I'd be ****ing shocked.

Mr_Tomahawk 04-30-2016 01:37 PM

We "tried" to get Paxton Lynch. Instead, we ended up with Kevin Hogan.

Think about that.

Maybe he is just here to tutor Bray?

Sweet Daddy Hate 04-30-2016 01:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by notorious (Post 12207937)
He's a 5th rounder.

If he ends up being a backup, the Chiefs did well.

Do I know these ****ers or what?

O.city 04-30-2016 01:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 12208028)
Lol what?

I just don't see him ever being a starter but as dane said maybe you can flip him for a pick

staylor26 04-30-2016 01:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 12208137)
I just don't see him ever being a starter but as dane said maybe you can flip him for a pick

A great backup is worth a 5th, and so is a guy you could potentially flip.

Buns 04-30-2016 01:44 PM

DJ White

Mr_Tomahawk 04-30-2016 01:50 PM

Bray is only like 9 months older than Hogan...

MatriculatingHank 04-30-2016 01:52 PM

At least we didn't take Dak "D.U.I." Prescott

Discuss Thrower 04-30-2016 01:54 PM

Bray is dead man walking now. Hope he took lil dickey's advice...

Mr_Tomahawk 04-30-2016 01:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower (Post 12208203)
Bray is dead man walking now. Hope he took lil dickey's advice...

Not after his contract extension.

Hogan goes on PS or Murray is shopped.

Simply Red 04-30-2016 01:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KCtotheSB (Post 12207922)
NFL Network: "He's similar to Tyler Palko."

haha - yeah noticed that - I knew that'd start an eruption here.

BigRedChief 04-30-2016 01:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dante84 (Post 12207902)
With the 162nd pick, in the 5th round

How is this guy any better than the backups we already have?

notorious 04-30-2016 02:01 PM

I just can't get excited about this guy.


Might be a good sign.

BigRedChief 04-30-2016 02:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr_Tomahawk (Post 12208210)
Not after his contract extension.

Hogan goes on PS or Murray is shopped.

We should base it on who has the hotter Wife/GF?

Sweet Daddy Hate 04-30-2016 02:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 12208223)
How is this guy any better than the backups we already have?

It's not about him being better. It is simply "the way". Pick 'em late, hope for upside, and let the low men battle it out.

Who knows, you might get a starter and avoid bringing in the next "established vet"!

Deberg_1990 04-30-2016 02:07 PM

Love that Tyler Palko 'skillset'

TimeForWasp 04-30-2016 02:14 PM

Only way this makes sense is if Bray or Murray are getting flipped this year.

Beef Supreme 04-30-2016 02:16 PM

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DaneMcCloud 04-30-2016 02:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 65TPT (Post 12208278)
Only way this makes sense is if Bray or Murray are getting flipped this year.

:facepalm:

TimeForWasp 04-30-2016 02:19 PM

No way we can keep 4 qbs on the active roster you know it all prick.

TigeRRUppeRRcut 04-30-2016 02:21 PM

Not to toot my own horn again but I've been big on this pick for the last week. He will develop pretty well under Smith and Reid. Deadly accurate in the short-immediate passes which fits well in our version of the west coast offense. Terrible, terrible passer in the long passes.

Low risk, medium reward.

Quote:

Originally Posted by TigerUppercut (Post 12206806)
Can't pass on Hogan

Quote:

Originally Posted by TigerUppercut (Post 12206789)
Hard to pass up on Hogan if he's there. Raw, but very smart. Needs a lot of work on mechanics


DaneMcCloud 04-30-2016 02:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 65TPT (Post 12208299)
No way we can keep 4 qbs on the active roster you know it all prick.

Yeah, I'm a "know it all" because you're a dumbass.

:rolleyes:

The Chiefs should take a QB EVERY YEAR. That's the same policy that the Green Bay Packers and Eagles did for decades, in which they developed and flipped those guys for higher picks.

Hasselbeck, Brunell, Brooks, Feely, etc. and so on.

Now, you should stop acting like an asshole.

TimeForWasp 04-30-2016 02:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 12208312)
Yeah, I'm a "know it all" because you're a dumbass.

:rolleyes:

The Chiefs should take a QB EVERY YEAR. That's the same policy that the Green Bay Packers and Eagles did for decades, in which they developed and flipped those guys for higher picks.

Hasselbeck, Brunell, Brooks, Feely, etc. and so on.

Now, you should stop acting like an asshole.







So you really think will keep all 4 on the roster when the season starts.

threebag 04-30-2016 02:29 PM

No Bray is out.

#TeamTomahawk

Iowanian 04-30-2016 02:29 PM

He sure as hell embarrassed my Hawkeyes defense in the rose bowl.

Even worse, he didn't have anyone to throw to but a silly looking, horse faced white kid whose dad was so shitty they made him play for the Broncos.


Murray is 2, hogan is 3, bray is now serving number 43 at Dairy Queen

the Talking Can 04-30-2016 02:32 PM

bray was just picked in the 6th round of the insurance draft by state farm...

DaneMcCloud 04-30-2016 02:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 65TPT (Post 12208317)
So you really think will keep all 4 on the roster when the season starts.

They'll keep three for sure, with either Hogan or Bray on the Practice Squad, unless Bray doesn't a show a thing and is cut altogether.

Dorsey has proven each year that he's been in KC that he's constantly trying to upgrade every position, whether it's O-line, D-line, secondary, running back, WR and even QB by bringing competition for every position and not standing pat.

That's the way to build a consistent championship roster.

TimeForWasp 04-30-2016 02:35 PM

The only way to flip them for picks is if they are on the roster to flip them.

O.city 04-30-2016 02:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 12208148)
A great backup is worth a 5th, and so is a guy you could potentially flip.

I just think the chances of it happening are very slim either way.

DaneMcCloud 04-30-2016 02:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 65TPT (Post 12208334)
The only way to flip them for picks is if they are on the roster to flip them.

And if Bray is beaten out by Hogan, a rookie, after spending the last three seasons with the Chiefs, then he has no value.

Hog's Gone Fishin 04-30-2016 02:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 12208335)
I just think the chances of it happening are very slim either way.

I do agree. I would have rather had another OL pick . We need all the talent there we can get.

DaneMcCloud 04-30-2016 02:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 12208335)
I just think the chances of it happening are very slim either way.

Except for the fact that Andy Reid and the Green Bay Packers, who previously employed John Dorsey, did this time and time and time again.

I'm not sure how you can even dispute that fact.

King_Chief_Fan 04-30-2016 02:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Iowanian (Post 12208320)
He sure as hell embarrassed my Hawkeyes defense in the rose bowl.

Even worse, he didn't have anyone to throw to but a silly looking, horse faced white kid whose dad was so shitty they made him play for the Broncos.


Murray is 2, hogan is 3, bray is now serving number 43 at Dairy Queen

Speaking the truth

Beef Supreme 04-30-2016 02:38 PM

Whatever. Beats the living shit out of the Pioli years when we had Cassel and Palko on the roster and didn't take any QBs.

O.city 04-30-2016 02:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 12208342)
Except for the fact that Andy Reid and the Green Bay Packers, who previously employed John Dorsey, did this time and time and time again.

I'm not sure how you can even dispute that fact.

I'm not saying they haven't don't it, I'm saying the odds of it happening are pretty slim.

For every 1 time it's worked out, there's a multitude of guys who haven't

Discuss Thrower 04-30-2016 02:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigChiefTablet (Post 12208344)
Whatever. Beats the living shit out of the Pioli years when we had Cassel and Palko on the roster and didn't take any QBs.

Don't really see any difference between signing broke dicks like Palko or Quinn and taking a last day flier on guys with pretty much zero upside in Bray, Murray and Hogan.. And yeah, I know Bray was UDFA. No real difference outside of cap money between an UDFA and 4th-7th rounder.

Beef Supreme 04-30-2016 02:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower (Post 12208363)
Don't really see any difference between signing broke dicks like Palko or Quinn and taking a last day flier on guys with pretty much zero upside in Bray, Murray and Hogan.. And yeah, I know Bray was UDFA. No real difference outside of cap money between an UDFA and 4th-7th rounder.

It may not be any different. But a late round dice roll every year has a better chance than just living with pure suck. And I'm pretty sure every single QB on our roster is better than Palko. That mother****er made Matt Cassel look good.

Rams Fan 04-30-2016 03:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 12208348)
I'm not saying they haven't don't it, I'm saying the odds of it happening are pretty slim.

For every 1 time it's worked out, there's a multitude of guys who haven't

I still don't see the major fuss over this. It's a 5th round pick and no team hits on every pick. People bitch about the Chiefs not taking a QB in the 1st. Fine. But they still at least attempt to improve the position by bringing in a new guy every year.

Look at the Cowboys. They played Weeden, Cassel, and Moore after Romo went down. All 3 were shit and of the 3, only Moore didn't have any experience playing in the regular season. Their season went to shit because they had shit, garbage, and flaming shit behind Romo. If Smith went down with a playoff roster around him, would you want the team's window of competing for a SB to be wasted because of their being 0 depth behind him?

Eleazar 04-30-2016 03:36 PM

It's a flyer on a late round QB. Not really CP train wreck material

BryanBusby 04-30-2016 03:42 PM

I think Hogan is the guy you build to be the #2 and Murray is a guy you either start eventually or move.

Bray is Bray.

Chiefshrink 04-30-2016 03:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by theelusiveeightrop (Post 12207933)
Franchise QB

Quote:

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 12207959)
It was either Lynch or Hogan. Glad we took Hogan since we didn't get Lynch. He can be the QBOTF

Quote:

Originally Posted by eDave (Post 12207973)
The guy got exponentially better with Stanford. Let's hope he hasn't peaked.

Quote:

Originally Posted by listopencil (Post 12208046)
He could be your #2QB for years. Solid back up QB who fits the classic Parcells rules for drafting QB's.

To your point listo,

1. 3yr starter
2. Started more than 30 games
3. Won 20 or more
4. 2 to 1 Td to Int ratio
5. Over 60 percent comp all 3 yrs
6. Senior
7. Graduates

Hogan nails them all unlike any of the other QBs in this 2016 draft class.

Eleazar 04-30-2016 03:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BryanBusby (Post 12208530)
I think Hogan is the guy you build to be the #2 and Murray is a guy you either start eventually or move.

Bray is Bray.

I doubt Bray makes it through camp

Sweet Daddy Hate 04-30-2016 04:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chiefshrink (Post 12208563)
To your point listo,

1. 3yr starter
2. Started more than 30 games
3. Won 20 or more
4. 2 to 1 Td to Int ratio
5. Over 60 percent comp all 3 yrs
6. Senior
7. Graduates

Hogan nails them all unlike any of the other QBs in this 2016 draft class.

And so begins the worship of the latest 5th rounder. Do I know these ****ers or what?

DaneMcCloud 04-30-2016 04:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr_Tomahawk (Post 12208210)
Not after his contract extension.

Hogan goes on PS or Murray is shopped.

LMAO

I can't tell if you're a troll or just dumb.

Which is it?


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