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BossChief 08-26-2016 10:28 PM

LNBS: 10 Things KC Needs to Happen to be a Super Bowl Contender
 
I can see this team going all the way if these things come to fruition:

1) Alex Smith stays healthy. I know some will scoff at making this the first thing I list, but Alex is going to be in his comfort zone all year. Solid line, dependable producers in Maclin, Kelce, Charles, West, Ware among others. He knows the whole offense front to back and will be able to go out there and sling it. Andy Reid said he turned the keys to the offense over to Alex after Jamaal went down last year and the offense responded.

Pure and simple, Alex needs to stay on the field for the team to be a serious contender. I'm a big Foles fan, but right now, Alex is a better player.

2) Justin Houston needs to return at some point and be his dominating self. He doesn't need to be here right away, but somewhere around midseason, we will need him. No question about it, if he can't return this year, this won't be a Super Bowl team. We need that edge rush to be top shelf to win in the postseason and without Houston, that's not going to happen. The secondary is going to be very young, and therefore will likely be mistake prone...a guy like Houston hides a lot of those mistakes.

Without him, we can win a playoff game, but the Chiefs won't win a title without him...sure would be fun to watch if Dee Ford steps up and Houston returns to his old self while Hali completes a rotation. Sky's the limit then.

3) Phillip Gaines needs to step up and lock down that #2 corner spot. The kid has unreal quickness, ball skills and raw speed and he has the best chance to be a difference maker across from Peters. We desperately need someone to fill Sean Smiths shoes and I think Gaines is going to do a great job. If he solidifies that CB spot, this defense is going to be very tough to beat down the stretch. If he doesn't solidify that spot, the defense could struggle, given the dropoff in pass rush productivity without Houston...cover guys (young cover guys) need to cover longer....that could make for some long games.

We really need him to step up, stay healthy and play to his ability level.

4) Chris Conley needs to show that what he did to Trumaine Johnson against the Rams wasn't a fluke. Right now, he looks like a guy that is ready to take the next step in his development and lock down that second receiver spot. For our offense, that could spell doom for opposing defenses. Teams will be spending a lot of time and on field resources scheming to stop the run game,mMaclin and Kelce...they will roll coverages and bracket those guys and bring numbers to stop our running game...that's gonna leave lots of opportunities for Conley to break big plays. He needs to make the most of those opportunities for this offense to take a step forward.

5) Dee Ford needs to finish plays. I guess we all need to accept that Dee isn't gonna be a fire breather. It's just not him. What we should expect is for him to finish the type of plays he wasn't able to finish last year. For the defense to be championship caliber with this many young DBs, Dee Ford needs to be fired out of a cannon and wrap up the ball carrier/QB when he is able to "get home". No way around it...if he sucks this year, this isn't a team with championship aspirations. He's a HUGE piece of this machine.

6) Tyreek Hill needs to provide significant impact. I think he will be our kick and punt returner while also playing a significant role on offense. Something like 160 total touches. I won't be surprised if he scores 8tds. His speed is something nobody in the league will be prepared for on Sunday's because he's probably the fastest player in the league.

The fun part about Hill is that he will be working against man coverage a TON against 3rd and 4th corners AT BEST...there will be plenty of times where he will be matched up on a safety... And there's nothing a defense can do about it. You can't double everyone.

Kids gonna eat.

7) Eric Murray needs to play like a vet...and right away. Rivers, Osweiler, Rothlisberger and other QBs we will face early on are going to target him. He's a rookie transitioning to a new position and will be tested...especially since he will be playing a lot in sub packages. I'm as excited about this kid as I am about Jones and Hill, but he's gonna have a trial by fire. Should be fun to see how he responds.

8) Eric Berry needs to be a total beast. I'm talking sophomore year at Tennesee when he had 7ints, 8.5 TFL, 3 sacks and 2 defensive scores. We need that guy. We need a guy that takes away the deep ball while paired with another blazing fast safety and forces opposing teams to work around him and also blitzes like a savage. We need Berry to be prime Troy Polamalu or Ed Reed. I'm anxious to see how Eric plays this year.

9) Marcus Peters needs to make the most of his opportunities. He has done so and is a phenom...but now that teams have film on him, he needs to be ready for counter punches. The defense is going to need as many turnovers as possible and opposing QBs will probably target guys that don't wear #22 often...Peters needs to make them pay when they do try to test him.

10) Chris Jones needs to get a lot of playing time. Whatever Sutton needs to do, he needs to have Chris Jones out there disrupting plays and tossing OL around the field. This kid will be a big help to the DBs because he's gonna force opposing passers to get rid of thr ball sooner than they want.

He's gonna be the next DROTY if Sutton gives him enough opportunities to do so.


Obligatory #11 score more points than the other team.

SAUTO 08-26-2016 10:31 PM

it might help if they refrain from ****ing themselves.

RunKC 08-26-2016 10:38 PM

#11-give all 2 minute play decision making decisions to Brad Childress
#12-don't let Bob Sutton drop our best players into coverage on 3rd down or line up 1 DL and 8 DB's on any ****ing play.

Simply Red 08-26-2016 10:41 PM

Clearly you're not on the Ross Travis Terror Train. It's okay - one day soon, you ALL will be.

staylor26 08-26-2016 10:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Simply Red (Post 12388357)
Clearly you're not on the Ross Travis Terror Train. It's okay - one day soon, you ALL will be.

BossChief loves Ross.

Willie Lanier 08-26-2016 10:49 PM

Great post, I agree on all accounts other than the Murray portion

BossChief 08-26-2016 10:51 PM

Ross was one of the 3 most impressive players at camp.

Travis
Hill
Jones

staylor26 08-26-2016 10:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 12388366)
Ross was one of the 3 most impressive players at camp.

Travis
Hill
Jones

People are really underestimating the boost Jones can give our pass rush. He's on another level than the rest of our DL.

Willie Lanier 08-26-2016 10:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 12388368)
People are really underestimating the boost Jones can give our pass rush. He's on another level than the rest of our DL.

Couldn't agree more, kid's a physical freak...

I admit I wasn't really wowed by the pick at the time, but I'll gladly put my tail between my legs on that one...

Kid's going to be a stud

staylor26 08-26-2016 10:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Willie Lanier (Post 12388372)
Couldn't agree more, kid's a physical freak...

I admit I wasn't really wowed by the pick at the time, but I'll gladly put my tail between my legs on that one...

Kid's going to be a stud

I was pimping him on CP months before the draft. Can't believe we actually drafted him. As high as I was on him, I still thought he was a year away. Blown away at how good he's been off the bat.

Simply Red 08-26-2016 11:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 12388366)
Ross was one of the 3 most impressive players at camp.

Travis
Hill
Jones

not surprised -

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BossChief 08-26-2016 11:17 PM

I went into camp thinking I'd see James Oshaunessy working towards locking down the #2 TE spot and left thinking there's no way KC risks losing Travis by trying to sneak him onto the practice squad and that Oshaunesy probably either gets cut or traded.

Travis is a very impressive kid that has a natural feel for coverages and the end zone.

He's gonna be fun to watch develop.

notorious 08-27-2016 12:11 AM

They have the talent.

1. Get to the playoffs (should be within reach)

2. Don't make dumb mistakes (if they do this last year, they beat the Pats)

3. Roll the dice. (The SB is a freakshow; anything can happen)


Andy Reid's end of game management is huge. His teams need to be so far ahead that it doesn't matter.

OldSchool 08-27-2016 12:23 AM

Give Alex Smith more freedom at the line.

That will go a long way towards making this offense consistently good.

Simply Red 08-27-2016 12:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 12388388)
I went into camp thinking I'd see James Oshaunessy working towards locking down the #2 TE spot and left thinking there's no way KC risks losing Travis by trying to sneak him onto the practice squad and that Oshaunesy probably either gets cut or traded.

Travis is a very impressive kid that has a natural feel for coverages and the end zone.

He's gonna be fun to watch develop.

I think him and Conley are the two to watch.

OldSchool 08-27-2016 12:45 AM

Is there a chance that we keep 4 TE's?

Kelce and Harris seem to be locks.

3rd spot is between Travis and O'shaunessy.

Either way, it's pretty awesome that both of the former BB guys, Harris and Travis, have been developing pretty well.

tmax63 08-27-2016 05:59 AM

#12. ball security. In years past fumbles have haunted us. Jamaal's in the Bronco game, Kelce had a bad one after a catch, etc. The fumble against the Rams last week that cost the game even if only preseason. I know it's a fine line from getting all there is on a play and exposing the ball trying for more but PROTECT the ball. Who knew Jamaal's fumble and the loss to the Donkeys would eventually cost home field last year.

Halfcan 08-27-2016 08:45 AM

If our whole season rest in the hands of Gaines and Ford.

We are doomed.

Deberg_1990 08-27-2016 08:58 AM

No Jamaal Charles doing Jamaal Charles things?

Hammock Parties 08-27-2016 09:46 AM

Quote:

6) Tyreek Hill needs to provide significant impact. I think he will be our kick and punt returner while also playing a significant role on offense. Something like 160 total touches. I won't be surprised if he scores 8tds. His speed is something nobody in the league will be prepared for on Sunday's because he's probably the fastest player in the league.
LMAO

And so Dexter 2.0 was born.

Eight TDs. LMAO

Fastest player EVAH LMAO LMAO

Hammock Parties 08-27-2016 09:49 AM

So to recap we need three rookies to immediately hit and a first-time starter to play like a veteran starter.

All of these things will definitely happen.

BossChief 08-27-2016 10:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Smellway (Post 12388591)
LMAO

And so Dexter 2.0 was born.

Eight TDs. LMAO

Fastest player EVAH LMAO LMAO

The kid ran a 4.2 40 yard dash.

Show me a guy that ran faster.

And laugh about Dexter McCluster all you want, I never overrated him. If you have forgotten, I won our bet about him on touches and was DEAD ON in my prediction of 160 for him.

Adam Schefter recently said that Hill is going to be a fantasy sleeper that should have been a first round pick, if it weren't for his off field mistake.

But go ahead and let your fake pessimism cloud your judgement.

Hammock Parties 08-27-2016 10:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 12388621)
The kid ran a 4.2 40 yard dash.

Show me a guy that had more.

Running in shorts doesn't always equate to football speed. I'll believe it when I see it, to say a rookie who hasn't done anything in preseason is going to bust out with 8 TDs is homer talk.
Quote:

And laugh about Dexter McCluster all you want, I never overrated him. If you have forgotten, I won our bet about him on touches and was DEAD ON in my prediction of 160 for him.
Only due to Charles getting hurt and the worst QB in the NFL force feeding him useless checkdowns, resulting in one of the worst offensive years we've ever had.

You overrated him as a player and the balance of his career is undeniable proof of that. He's less than JAG now.

staylor26 08-27-2016 10:13 AM

"Running in shorts doesn't always equate to football speed"

Somebody hasn't watched Hill's highlights. Honestly, he might be the he fastest player I've ever seen, and that's not hyperbole.

Simply Red 08-27-2016 10:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 12388621)
The kid ran a 4.2 40 yard dash.

Show me a guy that ran faster.

And laugh about Dexter McCluster all you want, I never overrated him. If you have forgotten, I won our bet about him on touches and was DEAD ON in my prediction of 160 for him.

Adam Schefter recently said that Hill is going to be a fantasy sleeper that should have been a first round pick, if it weren't for his off field mistake.

But go ahead and let your fake pessimism cloud your judgement.

West ran a 4.2 something - Abilene Christian’s Charcandrick West Ran a Blazing 4.27 Forty Yard Dash

http://rotoviz.com/2014/04/abilene-c...rty-yard-dash/

Simply Red 08-27-2016 10:21 AM

Not faster no - but still - noteworthy

Quesadilla Joe 08-27-2016 10:23 AM

Players who ran a 4.2 40 at the combine since 2006...

Demarcus Van Dyke
JJ Nelson
Jacoby Ford
Marquise Goodwin
Dri Archer
Chris Johnson

staylor26 08-27-2016 10:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KnowMo2724 (Post 12388652)
Players who ran a 4.2 40 at the combine since 2006...

Demarcus Van Dyke
JJ Nelson
Jacoby Ford
Marquise Goodwin
Dri Archer
Chris Johnson

And Hill looks faster on a football field than any of those guys. Even Chris Johnson.

DaneMcCloud 08-27-2016 10:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Smellway (Post 12388626)
Running in shorts doesn't always equate to football speed. I'll believe it when I see it, to say a rookie who hasn't done anything in preseason is going to bust out with 8 TDs is homer talk.


Only due to Charles getting hurt and the worst QB in the NFL force feeding him useless checkdowns, resulting in one of the worst offensive years we've ever had.

You overrated him as a player and the balance of his career is undeniable proof of that. He's less than JAG now.

You need to go **** yourself.

Any time ANYONE has a positive evaluation or vibe from a player, you enter the thread to shit all over them with your absolutely WORTHLESS bullshit and cherry picked stats.

**** you, Claynus. **** you up your stupid, 200,000 post ass.

Halfcan 08-27-2016 10:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Simply Red (Post 12388648)
West ran a 4.2 something - Abilene Christian’s Charcandrick West Ran a Blazing 4.27 Forty Yard Dash

http://rotoviz.com/2014/04/abilene-c...rty-yard-dash/

Most on here never ran track-they have no concept how fast that really is.

Only maybe 1/8 of 1% of the entire population of the planet can run that fast.

Hammock Parties 08-27-2016 10:30 AM

Cherry picked stats? LMAO

Reek doesn't HAVE any stats.

RunKC 08-27-2016 10:30 AM

Tyreek Hill isn't just straight line fast. He ran a 6.53 3 cone which is top 5% of the league.

Surprisingly one of the few guys that did better in that drill is on his own team...Sorenson.

RealSNR 08-27-2016 10:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 12388352)
#11-give all 2 minute play decision making decisions to Brad Childress
#12-don't let Bob Sutton drop our best players into coverage on 3rd down or line up 1 DL and 8 DB's on any ****ing play.

You didn't watch many Vikings games when Childress was the head coach.

He's just as terrible as Reid.

staylor26 08-27-2016 10:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 12388662)
Tyreek Hill isn't just straight line fast. He ran a 6.53 3 cone which is top 5% of the league.

Surprisingly one of the few guys that did better in that drill is on his own team...Sorenson.

I'm curious how many of those guys KnowMo listed also had 3 cone times like that.

Hammock Parties 08-27-2016 10:33 AM

Seriously, it's a lot of hype for a nobody.

Why isn't he smoking guys in preseason?

Halfcan 08-27-2016 10:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KnowMo2724 (Post 12388652)
Players who ran a 4.2 40 at the combine since 2006...

Demarcus Van Dyke
JJ Nelson
Jacoby Ford
Marquise Goodwin
Dri Archer
Chris Johnson

Still has the record.
http://www.foxsports.com/north/story...acility-030616

DaneMcCloud 08-27-2016 10:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 12388663)
You didn't watch many Vikings games when Childress was the head coach.

He's just as terrible as Reid.

If you watch a coach, week in and week out, regardless of the team or city, you'll end up hating the head coach unless he wins big.

I have friends that hate Mike Tomlin, despite all of his success in Pittsburgh.

I have a close friend that HATED Harbaugh in SF and was absolutely convinced that Tomsula would be an upgrade.

Same goes for Green Bay fans and Mac and tons of NY Giant fans and Coughlin.

It's the nature of the beast.

staylor26 08-27-2016 10:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 12388670)
If you watch a coach, week in and week out, regardless of the team or city, you'll end up hating the head coach unless he wins big.

I have friends that hate Mike Tomlin, despite all of his success in Pittsburgh.

I have a close friend that HATED Harbaugh in SF and was absolutely convinced that Tomsula would be an upgrade.

Same goes for Green Bay fans and Mac and tons of NY Giant fans and Coughlin.

It's the nature of the beast.

Exactly. I'm pretty sure some Pats fans would blame Hoody for ****ing up HFA and their season last year.

RunKC 08-27-2016 10:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 12388664)
I'm curious how many of those guys KnowMo listed also had 3 cone times like that.

Sorenson also had the 4th best 60 yard time and his 20 yard time wasn't too bad either. Probably why they thought he was a value in free agency and ignored his 4.67 40 time.

DaneMcCloud 08-27-2016 10:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Smellway (Post 12388666)
Seriously, it's a lot of hype for a nobody.

Why isn't he smoking guys in preseason?

It's not HYPE, it's what's been reported, you butt****ing moron.

Also, BossChief went to a Training Camp practice and saw him in person.

No one's expecting Hill or any of the other rookies to hit the field as All Pro's but the potential to be significant additions, whether this season or next, is there.

staylor26 08-27-2016 10:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 12388673)
Sorenson also had the 4th best 60 yard time and his 20 yard time wasn't too bad either. Probably why they thought he was a value in free agency and ignored his 4.67 40 time.

Yea there's no denying Dorsey's love for players with good/great 3 cone times.

ChiefsCountry 08-27-2016 10:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Smellway (Post 12388666)
Seriously, it's a lot of hype for a nobody.

Why isn't he smoking guys in preseason?

That had to hype him up in camp to make people forget he is a worthless girl friend beater.

DaneMcCloud 08-27-2016 10:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 12388679)
That had to hype him up in camp to make people forget he is a worthless girl friend beater.

So Blair Kerkhoff, Sam Mellinger and Terez Paylor are also being paid by the Chiefs organization as well as the Star?

Hammock Parties 08-27-2016 10:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 12388674)
It's not HYPE, it's what's been reported, you butt****ing moron.

Also, BossChief went to a Training Camp practice and saw him in person.

No one's expecting Hill or any of the other rookies to hit the field as All Pro's but the potential to be significant additions, whether this season or next, is there.

Training camp phenoms. LMAO We've never seen THAT before, have we.

Reek could be the next Steve Smith but until he actually does something noteworthy in even a PRESEASON game (he hasn't), saying he's going to score 8 TDs is pure fantasy.

Halfcan 08-27-2016 10:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 12388679)
That had to hype him up in camp to make people forget he is a worthless girl friend beater.

So every DB that he has toasted including last year's DROY - just let him do it for a positive spin? :hmmm:

BossChief 08-27-2016 11:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Smellway (Post 12388685)
Training camp phenoms. LMAO We've never seen THAT before, have we.

Reek could be the next Steve Smith but until he actually does something noteworthy in even a PRESEASON game (he hasn't), saying he's going to score 8 TDs is pure fantasy.

Stop being a tool.

Dave Toub is the best ST coach in football and has praised Tyreek all offseason as a guy comparable to Hester....possibly the best returner of all time. That's just for his returning ability. This kid runs clean routes and has elite speed while not being a skinny guy. He has put the work in his body, as well.

Adam Schefter is the most respected "insider" and said Tyreek Hil is a fantasy sleeper that has first round talent.

I don't think it's out of the question to think it's possible for the kid to get 2-3 return touchdowns and 4-5 TDs on offense.

But I'm sure you think that's just homer talk.

Hammock Parties 08-27-2016 11:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 12389042)
Adam Schefter is the most respected "insider" and said Tyreek Hil is a fantasy sleeper that has first round talent.

I don't think it's out of the question to think it's possible for the kid to get 2-3 return touchdowns and 4-5 TDs on offense.

4.2 speed babeeeee

http://i.imgur.com/8gex5hB.gif

BossChief 08-27-2016 12:03 PM

Rookies never drop an occasional pass.

I have no concerns about his hands.

lewdog 08-27-2016 12:04 PM

Gotta shut up deez haters.

Hammock Parties 08-27-2016 12:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 12389180)
Rookies never drop an occasional pass.

I have no concerns about his hands.

he has 1 catch over 10 yards in preseason

rookie phenom

staylor26 08-27-2016 12:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Smellway (Post 12389266)
he has 1 catch over 10 yards in preseason

rookie phenom

Looked pretty fast there.

Hammock Parties 08-27-2016 12:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 12389278)
Looked pretty fast there.

yeah 11 yard run holy shit

put this mother****er in the pro bowl

SAUTO 08-27-2016 12:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Smellway (Post 12389282)
yeah 11 yard run holy shit

put this mother****er in the pro bowl

you ****ing suck ass dude

staylor26 08-27-2016 12:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Smellway (Post 12389282)
yeah 11 yard run holy shit

put this mother****er in the pro bowl

You were saying?

Hammock Parties 08-27-2016 12:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 12389575)
You were saying?

he can field a punt, good job

staylor26 08-27-2016 01:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Smellway (Post 12389590)
he can field a punt, good job

Kill yourself.

vailpass 08-27-2016 02:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Smellway (Post 12388661)
Cherry picked stats? LMAO

Reek doesn't HAVE any stats.

He's 1-0 vs. pregnant women.

jjchieffan 08-28-2016 02:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Smellway (Post 12388685)
Training camp phenoms. LMAO We've never seen THAT before, have we.

Reek could be the next Steve Smith but until he actually does something noteworthy in even a PRESEASON game (he hasn't), saying he's going to score 8 TDs is pure fantasy.

I really, really, really hate siding with Clay on anything. But I am not getting excited about Hill until I see it on the field. Lat year, everyone bought into Fred Williams, before that, it was Bobby Sippio. They looked great in camp, but didn't even make the team. I hope that Hill is different. I hope that he exceeds BossChief's expectations. but he has been invisible in the preseason games. Why should I expect him to blow up in the regular season? Please prove me wrong on this Hill. O want to be wrong this time. Be the next Antonio Brown.

Easy 6 08-28-2016 02:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Smellway (Post 12388685)
Training camp phenoms. LMAO We've never seen THAT before, have we.

Reek could be the next Steve Smith but until he actually does something noteworthy in even a PRESEASON game (he hasn't), saying he's going to score 8 TDs is pure fantasy.

Sooo, a 58 yard bomb that he outran but came back to and caught off the tops of his shoes, does THAT count?

Hammock Parties 08-28-2016 05:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Easy 6 (Post 12391491)
Sooo, a 58 yard bomb that he outran but came back to and caught off the tops of his shoes, does THAT count?

Not really a good demonstration of his skills. Kind of a lucky play more than anything.

This guys needs to be taking 5-yard passes and turning them into 20-yard gains. That would be his role in this offense. So far I haven't seen a lick of that.

jjchieffan 08-28-2016 05:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Smellway (Post 12391716)
Not really a good demonstration of his skills. Kind of a lucky play more than anything.

This guys needs to be taking 5-yard passes and turning them into 20-yard gains. That would be his role in this offense. So far I haven't seen a lick of that.

I don't see a problem with him taking 5 yard passes and busting them for 20. But he has the speed to stretch the field and outrun everyone. He should be used in that role as well. If that long throw would have caught him on stride, that was 6 points easy. If he can prove that he is a threat to do that, defenses will have to respect and play a corner and or a safety deep to cover it. That will leave the middle open for Kelce and help the running game too.

Hammock Parties 08-28-2016 05:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jjchieffan (Post 12391731)
he has the speed to stretch the field and outrun everyone.

I'm sure that will be a key cog in our offense. ROFL

Easy 6 08-28-2016 05:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Smellway (Post 12391716)
Not really a good demonstration of his skills. Kind of a lucky play more than anything.

This guys needs to be taking 5-yard passes and turning them into 20-yard gains. That would be his role in this offense. So far I haven't seen a lick of that.

1) get the **** OUT about what it "demonstrated"

2) the rookie receiver hasnt mastered the WCO yet, wow shocking

notorious 08-28-2016 05:59 PM

Clay has found his new McCluster.

Hammock Parties 08-28-2016 06:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Easy 6 (Post 12391754)
1) get the **** OUT about what it "demonstrated"

2) the rookie receiver hasnt mastered the WCO yet, wow shocking

Look, he's made one play in preseason and it was a total sunshine dog's ass play that he'll be lucky to make 1 time in 100.

He's given us very little to go on thus far.

Hammock Parties 08-28-2016 06:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by notorious (Post 12391757)
Clay has found his new McCluster.

I don't hate him nearly as much because he wasn't a waste of a 2nd round pick.

But I would dearly like to see some justification for this hype train.

notorious 08-28-2016 06:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Smellway (Post 12391762)
I don't hate him nearly as much because he wasn't a waste of a 2nd round pick.

But I would dearly like to see some justification for this hype train.

His speed seems to disappear against NFL talent when it comes to the short stuff (so far).


He will still outrun any CB in the NFL. Our QB's will constantly under throw him on deep routes if they wait to see if he gets open.

Hammock Parties 08-28-2016 06:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by notorious (Post 12391765)
His speed seems to disappear against NFL talent when it comes to the short stuff (so far).

He will still outrun any CB in the NFL. Our QB's will constantly under throw him on deep routes if they wait to see if he gets open.

At this point I'd be surprised if he outran the guy who told him to get his playbook in a week.

Easy 6 08-28-2016 06:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Smellway (Post 12391758)
Look, he's made one play in preseason and it was a total sunshine dog's ass play that he'll be lucky to make 1 time in 100.

He's given us very little to go on thus far.

You said he hadnt demonstrated anything, you were wrong

It was an excellent effort not luck, luck is a product of preparation meeting opportunity... no of course it doesnt mean he is a lock for greatness, but your expectations for a raw rookie in the WCO, in their first preseason is dumb

And you know that

Hammock Parties 08-28-2016 06:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Easy 6 (Post 12391884)
You said he hadnt demonstrated anything, you were wrong

It was an excellent effort not luck, luck is a product of preparation meeting opportunity... no of course it doesnt mean he is a lock for greatness, but your expectations for a raw rookie in the WCO, in their first preseason is dumb

And you know that

My expectations are that he actually shows up and does something that can be replicated consistently in a real game.

He has not done shit to justify the hype.

stevieray 08-28-2016 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Smellway (Post 12391901)
My expectations are that he actually shows up and does something that can be replicated consistently in a real game.

He has not done shit to justify the hype.

He also hasn't done anything on the field to deserve scorn.


Works both ways.

BossChief 08-28-2016 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Smellway (Post 12391901)
My expectations are that he actually shows up and does something that can be replicated consistently in a real game.

He has not done shit to justify the hype.

You don't know what you're watching.

The kid got open deep and has enough awareness and ability to track the ball in the air that he pulled up short and looked the ball in and made the grab...and got up and tried to gain more yards.

I'm not shocked that you didn't recognize anything that happened on that play and just chalk it up to "luck".

Easy 6 08-28-2016 07:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Smellway (Post 12391901)
My expectations are that he actually shows up and does something that can be replicated consistently in a real game.

He has not done shit to justify the hype.

Have another drink Billy, on the house...

Hammock Parties 08-28-2016 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 12391940)
You don't know what you're watching.

The kid got open deep and has enough awareness and ability to track the ball in the air that he pulled up short and looked the ball in and made the grab...and got up and tried to gain more yards.

I'm not shocked that you didn't recognize anything that happened on that play and just chalk it up to "luck".

It was complete luck.

Shit, I'd bet anyone Reek won't catch a ball over 20 yards in the regular season this year.

Hammock Parties 08-28-2016 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by stevieray (Post 12391910)
He also hasn't done anything on the field to deserve scorn.


Works both ways.

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jjchieffan 08-28-2016 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Smellway (Post 12392052)
It was complete luck.

Shit, I'd bet anyone Reek won't catch a ball over 20 yards in the regular season this year.

I'll take that bet. What's the wager?

Hammock Parties 08-28-2016 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by jjchieffan (Post 12392064)
I'll take that bet. What's the wager?

avatar and sig rights for a year

notorious 08-28-2016 07:37 PM

Holy shit. ROFL

jjchieffan 08-28-2016 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Smellway (Post 12392078)
avatar and sig rights for a year

Done

notorious 08-28-2016 07:41 PM

Does the ball have to travel over 20 yards, or just the result of the play?


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