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DaFace 09-07-2016 07:47 PM

iPhone 7. No headphone jack.
 
More info here.

http://www.theverge.com/2016/9/7/127...e-release-date

Discuss.

SAUTO 09-07-2016 07:56 PM

They say all phones are gonna lose them next model

Dayze 09-07-2016 08:31 PM

Now Introducing The New iBuds for only $99.99

Urc Burry 09-07-2016 08:52 PM

Its annoying that we won't be able to use it as an auxiliary and charge it at the same time. Or that's what I'm assuming. My car right now doesn't have Bluetooth, but I should be upgrading this fall and that should solve that.

KCTitus 09-07-2016 09:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dayze (Post 12409846)
Now Introducing The New iBuds for only $99.99

Try 169...lol

DaveNull 09-07-2016 09:05 PM

Meh. The adapter dingus is small, can just live on the end of my headphones, and is free with the phone. seems like a reasonable compromise for the thing to be waterproof.

We'll see long term though. We are talking about what's perhaps the single most universal electrical interface in the world. Even power plugs vary by region.

BigBeauford 09-07-2016 09:32 PM

This seems more anti-consumer than anything. Interfacing your headphones wirelessly gives the companies more control. So instead of analog to listen to whatever music you happen to have, DRM can dictate whether to send the signal to the earphones or not. I see no upside to this, and phones have been waterproofed before and could still have a headphone jack.

Buck 09-07-2016 09:32 PM

I doubt this is the death of the iPhone, but I won't buy another one until they put the headphone jack back in. Over 75% of my iPhone use is that headphone jack.

BigRedChief 09-07-2016 09:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaveNull (Post 12409920)
Meh. The adapter dingus is small, can just live on the end of my headphones, and is free with the phone. seems like a reasonable compromise for the thing to be waterproof.

We'll see long term though. We are talking about what's perhaps the single most universal electrical interface in the world. Even power plugs vary by region.

The other thing that is concerning is Apple trying to move more of our tech to their solely owned proprietary W1 instead of what has become the norm, bluetooth.

DaveNull 09-07-2016 09:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Buck (Post 12410004)
I doubt this is the death of the iPhone, but I won't buy another one until they put the headphone jack back in. Over 75% of my iPhone use is that headphone jack.

You're that pissed that your headphone cable is now going to be two inches longer via a free adapter?

The Rick 09-07-2016 09:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 12410010)
The other thing that is concerning is Apple trying to move more of our tech to their solely owned proprietary W1 instead of what has become the norm, bluetooth.

My understanding is that it's still bluetooth and they will work with anything...

Miles 09-07-2016 11:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaveNull (Post 12410020)
You're that pissed that your headphone cable is now going to be two inches longer via a free adapter?

It's an annoying drawback and Samsung makes a water resistant phone with the jack. Stuff like not being able to charge and use headphones at the same time while also trying not to lose lose the adaptor. I use multiple pairs of headphones I keep in various places which is also not ideal with an adaptor.

Silock 09-08-2016 12:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigBeauford (Post 12410002)
This seems more anti-consumer than anything. Interfacing your headphones wirelessly gives the companies more control. So instead of analog to listen to whatever music you happen to have, DRM can dictate whether to send the signal to the earphones or not. I see no upside to this, and phones have been waterproofed before and could still have a headphone jack.

Bluetooth hasn't had this issue. I don't see the problem coming that you're talking about.

Silock 09-08-2016 12:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Urc Burry (Post 12409890)
Its annoying that we won't be able to use it as an auxiliary and charge it at the same time. Or that's what I'm assuming. My car right now doesn't have Bluetooth, but I should be upgrading this fall and that should solve that.

I use a Bluetooth radio adapter in my cars that don't have it. Works brilliantly.

thabear04 09-08-2016 12:34 AM

Did they make the charger cord thicker.

Nickhead 09-08-2016 05:37 AM

dont drop them anywhere tho. you may pick up a tick tack, and someone else got a free earpiece.

Deberg_1990 09-08-2016 06:29 AM

I already use Bluetooth headphones with my iPhone 6s.

The most annoying thing is that the charge only lasts about 3-4 hours or so.

DaFace 09-08-2016 07:52 AM

For those who can't wait...

http://www.appleplugs.com

BigRedChief 09-08-2016 08:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 12410237)
I already use Bluetooth headphones with my iPhone 6s.

The most annoying thing is that the charge only lasts about 3-4 hours or so.

THIS! I have a nice pair of bluetooth earbuds but until battery tech gets better, thats going to be the hour limit for a charge. I've been in situations and conference calls that last longer than 3-4 hours.

BigRedChief 09-08-2016 08:44 AM

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Fish 09-08-2016 08:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 12410300)
For those who can't wait...

http://www.appleplugs.com

LMAO....

Quote:

Innovation isn't always obvious to the eye, but look a little closer at Apple Plug. You'll find it is designed to fit seamlessly into the outdated headphone connector, transforming last year's phone into a modern masterpiece as beautifully as you'd expect from Apple. Once in place, Apple Plug cannot be removed. But why would you want to? Would you want to downgrade? We didn't think so.

BleedingRed 09-08-2016 08:50 AM

......... So to those who want "GOOD" Audio quality through AUX can go **** themselves.. Gotcha

DaFace 09-08-2016 08:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 12410237)
I already use Bluetooth headphones with my iPhone 6s.

The most annoying thing is that the charge only lasts about 3-4 hours or so.

Yeah, that seems to be the biggest issue to me (with the caveat that I haven't bought an Apple product in over a decade, so I'm not in their target market). I frequently use my headphones and charge my phone at the same in the car and at work, so that would be a bit of a problem unless battery life is dramatically improved.

Even ignoring that, I'd probably have to have 4 dongles lying around for home, work, car, and backpack. (I have a set of earbuds in 3 of those places and an AUX jack in the other.)

DaFace 09-08-2016 08:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fish (Post 12410387)
LMAO....

My favorite part is the animation at the bottom...

Donger 09-08-2016 09:14 AM

Do these new $159.00 wireless headphones by Apple use Bluetooth, or some proprietary Apple wireless technology?

DaFace 09-08-2016 01:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Donger (Post 12410456)
Do these new $159.00 wireless headphones by Apple use Bluetooth, or some proprietary Apple wireless technology?

I THINK they're standard Bluetooth, but not 100% sure. Or at least they're compatible with standard Bluetooth.

ThaVirus 09-08-2016 02:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thabear04 (Post 12410160)
Did they make the charger cord thicker.

Wireless charging- that's what we really need.

Fish 09-08-2016 02:38 PM

http://i66.tinypic.com/rw028w.jpg

-King- 09-08-2016 02:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 12410237)
I already use Bluetooth headphones with my iPhone 6s.

The most annoying thing is that the charge only lasts about 3-4 hours or so.

3-4 hrs? What the hell? Mine last 13+ hours on a full charge.
Posted via Mobile Device

Beef Supreme 09-08-2016 03:01 PM

I don't give a damn either way, but how is it more water resistant if it still has a charging jack? One hole vs two holes, the boat may fill up slower, but it's still going to get wet inside.

BlackHelicopters 09-08-2016 03:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ThaVirus (Post 12411180)
Wireless charging- that's what we really need.

Switch to Samsung Galaxy S7

Deberg_1990 09-08-2016 03:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by -King- (Post 12411246)
3-4 hrs? What the hell? Mine last 13+ hours on a full charge.
Posted via Mobile Device

Nice, what kind do you have? link?

siberian khatru 09-08-2016 03:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigChiefTablet (Post 12411258)
I don't give a damn either way, but how is it more water resistant if it still has a charging jack? One hole vs two holes, the boat may fill up slower, but it's still going to get wet inside.

TWSS

Mr. Laz 09-08-2016 03:55 PM

Doesn't it make the earbuds heavier. Going to be annoying for many.


How often are people going to lose them?

added battery drain because of wireless

eDave 09-08-2016 04:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Laz (Post 12411377)
Doesn't it make the earbuds heavier. Going to be annoying for many.


How often are people going to lose them?

added battery drain because of wireless

My thought exactly. Apple headphones don't plug into my ears very well anyway. Add the weight of a battery hanging off each would just pull them out of my ears.

And they are really cutting into their Beats business. Those will all need to go wireless.

patteeu 09-08-2016 05:00 PM

I think it's a great vision and it will probably end up working out ok, but for me, battery life and losing pricey earbuds are big concerns.

jjjayb 09-08-2016 07:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaveNull (Post 12409920)
Meh. The adapter dingus is small, can just live on the end of my headphones, and is free with the phone. seems like a reasonable compromise for the thing to be waterproof.

We'll see long term though. We are talking about what's perhaps the single most universal electrical interface in the world. Even power plugs vary by region.

Except there are plenty of waterproof phones with headphone jacks.

Silock 09-09-2016 12:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jjjayb (Post 12411998)
Except there are plenty of waterproof phones with headphone jacks.

It's not just about the water resistance.

"When the headphone jack was removed, Apple realized it was easier to install the new Taptic Engine for the pressure-sensitive Home button, implement a bigger battery, and reach an IP7 water resistance rating, so the elimination of the headphone jack became essential for all of the other features in the iPhone 7. "

DaFace 09-09-2016 08:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Silock (Post 12413239)
It's not just about the water resistance.

"When the headphone jack was removed, Apple realized it was easier to install the new Taptic Engine for the pressure-sensitive Home button, implement a bigger battery, and reach an IP7 water resistance rating, so the elimination of the headphone jack became essential for all of the other features in the iPhone 7. "

This is a general criticism about the industry rather than Apple specifically, but...

If they wanted a bigger battery, why not just let the phone be a little thicker? It's so thin that the camera has to stick out from the back (again, other phones have the same issue). Battery is my #1 biggest complaint about smartphones, and I'd LOVE for someone to just make a phone that is a tiny bit thicker but has solid battery life.

I can't speak to the impact of a pressure-sensitive button I guess. Seems like it's not so big of a feature that it would trump "compatible with the most ubiquitous plug in existence," but I guess time will tell how useful it is.

Beef Supreme 09-09-2016 11:30 AM

iPhone 7 new advertising slogan translates to "This is penis" in Cantonese.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencete...vertising.html

Just Passin' By 09-09-2016 01:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigChiefTablet (Post 12413773)
iPhone 7 new advertising slogan translates to "This is penis" in Cantonese.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencete...vertising.html

Upcoming story...

"iPhone expected to be #1 sales item among Chinese women"

Chief Pagan 09-09-2016 04:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 12413427)
This is a general criticism about the industry rather than Apple specifically, but...

If they wanted a bigger battery, why not just let the phone be a little thicker? It's so thin that the camera has to stick out from the back (again, other phones have the same issue). Battery is my #1 biggest complaint about smartphones, and I'd LOVE for someone to just make a phone that is a tiny bit thicker but has solid battery life.

This one drives me crazy too. I don't really need my phone to be 10 times thinner than my wallet.

RustShack 09-09-2016 10:33 PM

Doesn't bother me at all, and I use headphones everyday. I've never charged it and used the Jack at the same time, but I'm sure there will quickly be a small splinter adapter for the people who for whatever reason need to do that.

I remember the outrage of switching to the Lightning adapter... Seems fine now.

Miles 09-10-2016 01:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RustShack (Post 12414564)
Doesn't bother me at all, and I use headphones everyday. I've never charged it and used the Jack at the same time, but I'm sure there will quickly be a small splinter adapter for the people who for whatever reason need to do that.

I remember the outrage of switching to the Lightning adapter... Seems fine now.

I'm the same for typical daily use and will still be getting a 7 though less excited by the upgrade than usual. Due to a good plan through work I have had every iteration since the 4 other than the 5. The battery life on the 6S plus has gotten good enough I never have to charge during the day unless I'm traveling. Travel is where I see the problem and don't like the idea of having to deal with extra adapters.

Silock 09-10-2016 01:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 12413427)
This is a general criticism about the industry rather than Apple specifically, but...

If they wanted a bigger battery, why not just let the phone be a little thicker? It's so thin that the camera has to stick out from the back (again, other phones have the same issue). Battery is my #1 biggest complaint about smartphones, and I'd LOVE for someone to just make a phone that is a tiny bit thicker but has solid battery life.

I can't speak to the impact of a pressure-sensitive button I guess. Seems like it's not so big of a feature that it would trump "compatible with the most ubiquitous plug in existence," but I guess time will tell how useful it is.

Yeah, I don't get it, either. I would prefer a thicker phone with a smaller screen, TBH.

Miles 09-10-2016 02:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Silock (Post 12414668)
Yeah, I don't get it, either. I would prefer a thicker phone with a smaller screen, TBH.

I have never met anyone with those preferences. I didn't get the larger screen with the 6 generation since I thought it would be too big but did with the 6s and was a pretty great upgrade. Thinner makes it easier to fit in your pocket and hold as well.

Just Passin' By 09-10-2016 02:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Silock (Post 12414668)
Yeah, I don't get it, either. I would prefer a thicker phone with a smaller screen, TBH.

I'm hoping for a bendable screen and the return of the flip phone concept.

listopencil 09-10-2016 02:28 PM

http://www.thinkgeek.com/product/iphv/

http://www.thinkgeek.com/images/prod...mmunicator.jpg

Baby Lee 09-10-2016 11:49 PM

https://thechive.files.wordpress.com...rip=info&w=900

pr_capone 09-11-2016 01:02 AM

This isn't a problem folks...

http://i.imgur.com/6LhgtwL.jpg

Silock 09-11-2016 03:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Miles (Post 12414688)
I have never met anyone with those preferences. I didn't get the larger screen with the 6 generation since I thought it would be too big but did with the 6s and was a pretty great upgrade. Thinner makes it easier to fit in your pocket and hold as well.

Except thin and wide is essentially the same area in your pocket.

I love the iPhone SE. I thought the iPhone 5 was the perfect size for me. Easy to use with one hand without having to stretch up and over, or use that stupid double tap home button thing that seems to **** up a ton of apps.

Raiderhater 09-12-2016 09:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Silock (Post 12416282)
Except thin and wide is essentially the same area in your pocket.

I love the iPhone SE. I thought the iPhone 5 was the perfect size for me. Easy to use with one hand without having to stretch up and over, or use that stupid double tap home button thing that seems to **** up a ton of apps.


This. I just do not get the craze for mini tablets. If I want or need a bigger screen I'll grab my iPad. A mobile phone should only require one hand to use.

jd1020 09-12-2016 09:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pr_capone (Post 12416218)
This isn't a problem folks...

Spend $800 on a phone to drill into it immediately after opening it. Interesting.

Baby Lee 09-12-2016 09:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 12423166)
Spend $800 on a phone to drill into it immediately after opening it. Interesting.

ROFL

Fish 09-17-2016 12:29 AM

http://i64.tinypic.com/2aan04k.jpg

Dayze 09-17-2016 09:35 AM

That.ooks like an ibutt-plug

NTTAWWT

Just Passin' By 09-17-2016 10:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fish (Post 12430796)

LMAO

Chief Pagan 09-17-2016 05:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Raiderhader (Post 12423104)
This. I just do not get the craze for mini tablets. If I want or need a bigger screen I'll grab my iPad. A mobile phone should only require one hand to use.

Each to their own. I don't carry a tablet around with me when I am out and about. I also have the typical deteriorating eye sight of someone who is not that far from retirement age.

I rarely used my iPhone 5 because it was too tedious. I frequently zoom in to read things and select links (or I'm using a bigger font which limits how many words are on a tiny screen). The iPhone 6+ gets used way more. The limiting factor for me is how big of device can reasonably fit into a casual pair of slacks. Some of the mini tablets are almost viable. So something just a bit smaller than a mini tablet that is still set up to be a phone... If they would make pockets just a little bit larger, something mini tablet sized would be great.

I use my phone two handed and I rarely use it while walking, so I realize I'm not the typical target audience.


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