Worse contract for an unproven QB: Cassel vs. Osweiler
It strikes me that the Texans situation this year isn't completely unlike the Chiefs back in the dark ages. Both Cassel and Osweiler had performed well with their previous teams, but both of those teams were Super Bowl contenders regardless of the quarterback. Both of them got monster contracts that many questioned, and both of them (at least thus far for Osweiler)...well...sucked pretty hardcore.
If you try and take your own Chiefs bias out of it, which contract do you think was the most egregious error on the part of their new teams? |
Cashole.
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I won't ever be able to convince myself that anything is worse than anything that is remotely Cassel-related.
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Shouldn't you include the fact that KC also gave up a R2 pick for Cassel and Vrabel? And, I believe that pick turned into Patrick Chung. That is part of the cost, no?
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So I vote CassHole. :# |
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Have you ever wondered how things may have went if McDaniel could have gotten Cassel like he was trying to do before the whole Jay Cutler soap opera? Oh how things could have been but because we are the Chiefs we got screwed again. :harumph: |
Initially the Cassel contract wasn't bad at the time of it happening.
Everyone thought that Pioli and Cassel were going to make the Chiefs a winner. The thing that made Cassel so terrible is that after everyone figured out what he actually was... Pioli wouldn't admit his mistake and supply Todd Haley with a real QB competition. |
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Mark Cassel
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Cassel by a mile because it wasn't even necessary to have him play for KC. It was an extension given to a player who hadn't made one start for KC and was already under contract.
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Cassel.
Not only did we give up the 2nd overall pick for him but trading for him severely limited what we were able to do in the draft that year with the 3rd overall pick. |
I just wish he had stayed a Donkey...
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Also consider that while Cassel sucked ass, at least he sucked ass on bad teams. Assweiler is worse for the Texans because he's bringing down an actual good team...
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It's still early and as long as Osweiler is starting there's always a chance he could figure it out, but the guy started in less than half the games Cassel did on a SB winning team built on their defense and got $9M more guaranteed money. As it stands I have to throw my Chiefs bias out the window and go with Osweiler.
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Jay Cutler's deal makes both look good in comparison
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Scott Mitchell.
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If Pioli doesn't jam Cassel down our throats way past the point he should of quit it wouldn't have been near as bad.
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We don't know what Osweiler is going to be yet.
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Cassel. By a lot.
But Belicheat wanna be gonna Belicheat wanna be. |
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As notorious said, Cassel seemed worse by the end because the FO refused to bench him or admit that he was a problem. His 27-7 (9) season was highly regarded at the time, though.
But Os was benched for a guy with half an arm. Can't recall a guy getting a big contract after that. |
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Eh....Ill add Pioli taking Donald ****ing Stephenson over Russell Wilson....:)
Just because I'm still not over it :facepalm: |
At least there was some investment into Osweiler, he was a 2nd round pick in the draft and ACTUALLY PLAYED FOOTBALL IN COLLEGE and was somewhat a notable prospect. So at one point, at least as a college athlete, he had SOMETHING of talent.
Cassel didn't do anything, didn't throw single touchdown in 4 years in college. Just happened to be riding the coat tails of one of the best college teams ever assembled by Pete Carroll. His buddy Bill takes him in the 7th as a what the heck Nobody ever expected Tom Brady's knee to be blown out by BERNIE f'n POLLARD that year and Cassel being flung into a lineup that was basically Super Bowl lock with Brady. Then of course, we get a Good Ole Boy from the Pats Tree and since the NFL is a good ole boys league, we get the funnel of Patriots fraud leftovers for 4 miserable years. All because Tom Brady kept way too many coaches and front office guys employed in the NFL for the last almost 20 years. Without Brady they would all be terrible, and they have all proved that for the most part. So it's Cassel, and all that fraud crap that people bought into. Osweiler didn't bring anything with him. He didn't bring Osweiler fans at Texans Planet, He didn't bring washed up coordinators or fraud general managers. He didn't bring over the hill veterans from his previous team. He just brought himself. He might suck, but he has no connections to any club like Cassel had that kept him employed AND HAS KEPT HIM EMPLOYED for the last 10 years going from team to team happy to just rob a paycheck. There should really be a 30 for 30 on Cassel and all the things that had to go right from him to get the contract/situation he got. |
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The Texans had made the playoffs with pretty poor qb play already, so they didn't need a franchising saving player. I don't imagine the fans could stomach another year of falling short with journeymen retread QBs. They had to make a move.
It really just demonstrates how difficult it is to fix your team when qb is the problem. It's the reason teams have no choice to pay up for the Jay Cutlers of the league. As much as fans know that Cutler will never get it done, front offices know that Cutler is better than the alternative. I still don't understand why qbotf isn't a major focus of every team in the league year after year. It's the hardest void to fill, so teams should be aggressively trying to to find that guy at all times. |
Jamarcus Russell. 6 year 61 million 32 million guaranteed
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Cassel. At least Ostrichweiler still has some raw talent that could be developed with the right coaching. Cassel was at his ceiling the day Pioli traded for him.
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Cassel.
Elway doesn't look like a complete butt-**** for letting Oz walk whereas KC and Peeholi look like complete butt-****s for even entertaining the notion of Mark Castle, much less paying him a dime. |
It's hard to remove my Cassel bias, but I still think that's worse, primarily because Pioli came from that team and had inside information about Cassel as a player. You know that Elway was lying like crazy about Osweiler to cheat the Texans, but Pioli was supposedly a buddy of Belichick's.
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I don't know the details on Cassell deal but the Osweiler wasn't traded for a pick and really can be canned after next year and gone.
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Should add Scott Mitchell to this
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Pee-oh-lee traded away high round picks AND paid Cassy a boat load of cash. The suckiness of that bad deal resonates throughout the halls of bottom feeder teams to this day. Epic. Pure genius in how to destroy a team.
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Somewhere John Elway has a big smile on his face, because his teeth are enormous!:D
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