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RunKC 10-30-2016 02:25 PM

Time for Dee Ford haters to eat some crow
 
7 sacks in 7 games this year. Technically 8 if not for Tamba being a dumbass last week.

11 sacks in 14 games started in his career.

Beast

Hammock Parties 10-30-2016 02:27 PM

Pass the crow. He's beasting.

BossChief 10-30-2016 02:28 PM

When Houston comes back, opposing passers are going to have to get rid of the ball in 1 second or risk certain death.

Jones
Poe
Houston
Ford
Howard
Hali

Good luck.

Mother****erJones 10-30-2016 02:30 PM

I don't have to eat anything. Took long enough

COchief 10-30-2016 02:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ASS11 (Post 12516302)
Pass the crow. He's beasting.

You've got quite a few plates loaded up there huh Jackass? The Hill plate is looking like a full ****ing buffet spread at this point isn't it? Have you finished your Sean Smith plate from the last four years yet or are we still working on that?

Hammock Parties 10-30-2016 02:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by COchief (Post 12516331)
You've got quite a few plates loaded up there huh Jackass? The Hill plate is looking like a full ****ing buffet spread at this point isn't it? Have you finished your Sean Smith plate from the last four years yet or are we still working on that?

can we be friends

threebag 10-30-2016 02:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by COchief (Post 12516331)
You've got quite a few plates loaded up there huh Jackass? The Hill plate is looking like a full ****ing buffet spread at this point isn't it? Have you finished your Sean Smith plate from the last four years yet or are we still working on that?

Hopefully he starts eating some of it so the bullshit quits spewing out

carcosa 10-30-2016 02:33 PM

HOF

Hoover 10-30-2016 02:33 PM

This defense is fricking good right now, look at what they did vs Brees and Luck? You put Houston on this team and holy crap!

-King- 10-30-2016 02:35 PM

Defense sucks. Fire Sutton! /Laz
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COchief 10-30-2016 02:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ASS11 (Post 12516335)
can we be friends

I don't really hate you like many do, however I noticed immediately when you made Hill your new Mccluster for absolutely no reason other than all the glowing reports from camp on all ****ing fronts (fans, players, coaches, media, zero exceptions) on what an absolute stud he was. You picked him based on counter-culture and for nothing other than to be a troll, period.

ThaVirus 10-30-2016 02:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by COchief (Post 12516386)
I don't really hate you like many do, however I noticed immediately when you made Hill your new Mccluster for absolutely no reason other than all the glowing reports from camp on all ****ing fronts (fans, players, coaches, media, zero exceptions) on what an absolute stud he was. You picked him based on counter-culture and for nothing other than to be a troll, period.

Clay's a troll. Surprise, surprise.

Hammock Parties 10-30-2016 02:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ThaVirus (Post 12516439)
Clay's a troll. Surprise, surprise.

The Chiefs won. They have a chance to be in 1st place by the end of the day.

And you're on here talking about me.

:facepalm:

milkman 10-30-2016 02:44 PM

Pass the plate.

TigeRRUppeRRcut 10-30-2016 02:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ASS11 (Post 12516302)
Pass the crow. He's beasting.

Don't forget your serving too for Tyreek. Had a beast game. And you wanted him off this team.

Clay again, knows nothing about the NFL :clap::clap:

In58men 10-30-2016 02:44 PM

I bumped the appreciation thread so we didn't have to start another Ford thread. Guess you needed some attention.

TigeRRUppeRRcut 10-30-2016 02:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by COchief (Post 12516331)
You've got quite a few plates loaded up there huh Jackass? The Hill plate is looking like a full ****ing buffet spread at this point isn't it? Have you finished your Sean Smith plate from the last four years yet or are we still working on that?

We should just refer to Clay as the CP jester.

COchief 10-30-2016 02:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ThaVirus (Post 12516439)
Clay's a troll. Surprise, surprise.

Suck on Sorenson's big fat white dong while he continues to outplay your bitch boy Berry on a weekly basis you racist sack of shit.

Bewbies 10-30-2016 02:45 PM

When Houston is back up to speed this defense is going to be nasty.

Aspengc8 10-30-2016 02:46 PM

plays great vs shit lines, stays in the locker room vs good ones..

Deberg_1990 10-30-2016 02:46 PM

Houston + Ford. + Jones, + Poe + Hali will be pure beasting...

Ming the Merciless 10-30-2016 02:46 PM

I'll take a small bite...I'll wait a while b4 I eat a full plate of it

ThaVirus 10-30-2016 02:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ASS11 (Post 12516451)
The Chiefs won. They have a chance to be in 1st place by the end of the day.

And you're on here talking about me.

:facepalm:

I was talking to another poster who mentioned you.

I don't hate you and your antics don't bother me. I just think it's hilarious that people who actually have an issue with you just can't seem to stop engaging you.

The dude I was talking to's post was especially funny because it's like he finally discovered some incredible revelation that the board's known for at least half a decade now.

ThaVirus 10-30-2016 02:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by COchief (Post 12516467)
Suck on Sorenson's big fat white dong while he continues to outplay your bitch boy Berry on a weekly basis you racist sack of shit.

Ya got me. I hate white people. The jig is up!

Ming the Merciless 10-30-2016 02:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TigerUppercut (Post 12516466)
We should just refer to Clay as the CP jester.

If clay is the jester you're the village idiot

New World Order 10-30-2016 02:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pawnmower (Post 12516479)
I'll take a small bite...I'll wait a while b4 I eat a full plate of it


Same.

Easy 6 10-30-2016 02:51 PM

No hater here, I advocated a wait and see approach... it now appears to be paying off, he is looking better by the week

Easy 6 10-30-2016 02:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ASS11 (Post 12516335)
can we be friends

Lets be clear, you've been wildly wrong about whole BUNCH of shit this year :hmmm:

RunKC 10-30-2016 02:55 PM

I was hating on him a bit but he's figured it out and it's showing.

We are holding top tier QB's and offenses to below the league average points per game without Houston. That's ****ing amazing

TigeRRUppeRRcut 10-30-2016 02:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Easy 6 (Post 12516537)
Lets be clear, you've been wildly wrong about whole BUNCH of shit this year :hmmm:

He predicted Derek carr and andrew luck dominance.

Wayyyyyy the **** off.

Clay = CP Jester.

Chief Roundup 10-30-2016 02:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ASS11 (Post 12516335)
can we be friends

Didn't you lose a couple of bets as well.......are you welching again?

KChiefs1 10-30-2016 03:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by COchief (Post 12516386)
I don't really hate you like many do, however I noticed immediately when you made Hill your new Mccluster for absolutely no reason other than all the glowing reports from camp on all ****ing fronts (fans, players, coaches, media, zero exceptions) on what an absolute stud he was. You picked him based on counter-culture and for nothing other than to be a troll, period.



He's a Raiders fan.



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stumppy 10-30-2016 03:24 PM

I'll eat some. Just lost $50 and my sig rights for a year to lil stumppy on fFords sack total for the year.

pugsnotdrugs19 10-30-2016 03:24 PM

The best part about Ford stepping up is we can now use Hali in the role which will serve him best, a rotational pass rusher.

Houston and Ford is the new dynamic duo in Kansas City.

notorious 10-30-2016 03:26 PM

It's amazing what happens for a pass rush when you play with a lead.

beach tribe 10-30-2016 03:27 PM

I chose him as my breakout player so pass the crow elsewhere.

Mr. Laz 10-30-2016 03:28 PM

Ford looks good when you put him on the LoS and send him after the QB.

Sutton is an idiot

hometeam 10-30-2016 03:29 PM

Crow being served a bit early dont we think?

Red Dawg 10-30-2016 03:29 PM

Good to see ford coming on. We need him.

Rasputin 10-30-2016 03:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pawnmower (Post 12516479)
I'll take a small bite...I'll wait a while b4 I eat a full plate of it

I'm not saying he was playing against a week line RT but I think he was but I'm still going take a bite of Crow on my plate. His hard work and determination is paying off and he listens to his teammates to better himself and it shows. Two weeks in a row I've listened to his presser and I'm impressed with his humbleness I like that he was able to humble himself and be hungry for better things in his career. He knows he has to work for it.


I still think he was a reach for a first round but he is proving himself worth being on the team and contributing to the wins.

PunkinDrublic 10-30-2016 03:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TigerUppercut (Post 12516459)
Don't forget your serving too for Tyreek. Had a beast game. And you wanted him off this team.

Clay again, knows nothing about the NFL :clap::clap:

We'll all be eating crow when Geno Smith comes back and puts up huge numbers.

DaFace 10-30-2016 03:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hometeam (Post 12516774)
Crow being served a bit early dont we think?

We now have a 14-game history. How long is the appropriate amount of time to wait?

Aspengc8 10-30-2016 04:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 12516881)
We now have a 14-game history. How long is the appropriate amount of time to wait?

when he plays and grades out consistently well against good olines? If JH came back next week, ford will be spelling on pass rush downs, thats about it.

Pitt Gorilla 10-30-2016 04:09 PM

I guess I don't see the point in calling him a bust in the first place; dude hasn't had enough snaps to make such a determination.

DaneMcCloud 10-30-2016 04:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aspengc8 (Post 12516959)
when he plays and grades out consistently well against good olines? If JH came back next week, ford will be spelling on pass rush downs, thats about it.

No, he'd be the starter at ROLB

hometeam 10-30-2016 04:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 12516881)
We now have a 14-game history. How long is the appropriate amount of time to wait?

I dunno.. more than 2 games where he didnt completely blow nutsacks

Molitoth 10-30-2016 04:23 PM

Can I still hate on Alex Smith? This offense was nice to watch today under Foles.

Rain Man 10-30-2016 04:23 PM

Even more than stats, one can see performance on the field. I didn't get to see the whole game, but in the roughly two quarters that I saw, Dee Ford was incredibly explosive off the edge. Whether he got sacks or not, he was a force to be reckoned with.

keg in kc 10-30-2016 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla (Post 12516971)
I guess I don't see the point in calling him a bust in the first place; dude hasn't had enough snaps to make such a determination.

This I agree with.

Right now he's doing exactly what he should do: racking up some stats against some of the league's worst lines.

Aspengc8 10-30-2016 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 12517001)
No, he'd be the starter at ROLB

He's not starting over Tamba when Houston is back. 3rd down spell for either will work, but I cant see him starting over Hali. Ford has been improving, but Hali has been playing consistently well.

DaneMcCloud 10-30-2016 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Aspengc8 (Post 12517044)
He's not starting over Tamba when Houston is back. 3rd down spell for either will work, but I cant see him starting over Hali. Ford has been improving, but Hali has been playing consistently well.

Yes, he is. Hali will move into a 3rd down role, only, most likely with Ford on the line.

pugsnotdrugs19 10-30-2016 04:37 PM

Why in the hell would they sit Ford when he's got 7 sacks and Hali hasn't started all year?

I think Hali has been awesome in his limited snaps, but, that's likely because they are limited snaps.

He's at an age where he will play his best if only in for part of the game.

Chiefshrink 10-30-2016 04:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hometeam (Post 12516774)
Crow being served a bit early dont we think?

Yep.

petegz28 10-30-2016 04:37 PM

Amazing how Ford is getting better with actually getting playing time. Never would have thought that .....

JimNasium 10-30-2016 04:42 PM

You guys go easy on GoatCheese, he has a disability.

Mr. Laz 10-30-2016 04:45 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Current NFL Sack leaders:<br>1. Lorenzo Alexander 9.0<br>2. Vic Beasley 7.5<br>2. Von Miller 7.5<br>4. Brian Orakpo 7.0<br>4. Dee Ford 7.0</p>&mdash; Mike Conti (@MikeConti929) <a href="https://twitter.com/MikeConti929/status/792840640182845440">October 30, 2016</a></blockquote>
<script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

PAChiefsGuy 10-30-2016 04:47 PM

He is playing well but lets be honest most of his sacks are coverage sacks. I don't really see him getting to the QB quick like J Houston does or a prime Hali but he is getting better week-to-week and that is very encouraging.

Mr. Laz 10-30-2016 04:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 12517091)
Why in the hell would they sit Ford when he's got 7 sacks and Hali hasn't started all year?

I think Hali has been awesome in his limited snaps, but, that's likely because they are limited snaps.

He's at an age where he will play his best if only in for part of the game.

If Sutton doesn't move Ford to RDE when Houston comes back he should be beaten in the nutsack with bamboo poles. Hali can play limited snaps to keep himself fresh while teaching Ford how to maximize his natural quickness and talent.

In certain situations Hali,Houston and Ford can all be on the field.

stevieray 10-30-2016 04:55 PM

...these are the top 1500 football players in the country.

...there is no easy game.

Kudos to Ford.

Rasputin 10-30-2016 04:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PAChiefsGuy (Post 12517144)
He is playing well but lets be honest most of his sacks are coverage sacks. I don't really see him getting to the QB quick like J Houston does or a prime Hali but he is getting better week-to-week and that is very encouraging.

I count those coverage sacks and last week he gave credit to the backfield and said his sack was a coverage sack he just kept after it. Those aren't easy to get because you have to chase after a quarterback who is taking off or trying avoid the sack. Quarterbacks can be elusive. He has earned his sacks now he can't help it if some of the RT aren't all pro to go up against but he is working hard and good things are coming his way for his hard work.

Very encouraging I agree.

keg in kc 10-30-2016 05:03 PM

Moving a 250 pound linebacker to defensive end in a 3-4 sounds about like the worst idea imaginable. Might as well just put a flashing neon light on his helmet that says 'run here'.

hometeam 10-30-2016 05:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Laz (Post 12517157)
If Sutton doesn't move Ford to RDE when Houston comes back he should be beaten in the nutsack with bamboo poles. Hali can play limited snaps to keep himself fresh while teaching Ford how to maximize his natural quickness and talent.

In certain situations Hali,Houston and Ford can all be on the field.

This aint Madden

Sassy Squatch 10-30-2016 05:28 PM

Put Hali on the line if anything.

DaFace 10-30-2016 05:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hometeam (Post 12517017)
I dunno.. more than 2 games where he didnt completely blow nutsacks

If you think he's only had two good games, you're not watching.

mdchiefsfan 10-30-2016 05:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aspengc8 (Post 12516472)
plays great vs shit lines, stays in the locker room vs good ones..

This is my fear as well. I can only hope that these easy lines are slowing the game down for him and making it less costly to commit marginal errors. If he can gain some confidence in these games, and get the inevitable lumps over with, maybe he will be what we'd all hoped.

DaFace 10-30-2016 05:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mdchiefsfan (Post 12517310)
This is my fear as well. I can only hope that these easy lines are slowing the game down for him and making it less costly to commit marginal errors. If he can gain some confidence in these games, and get the inevitable lumps over with, maybe he will be what we'd all hoped.

I'm sure it's true to some extent, but it's not like Von Miller and Houston don't get a bunch of sacks against weak lines either.

RealSNR 10-30-2016 05:36 PM

I said Dee Ford looked like shit when he looked like shit.

I didn't say he was a bust. I said he's going to have to stop looking like shit if he doesn't want to be a bust.

I ain't eating shit.

DaneMcCloud 10-30-2016 05:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hometeam (Post 12517243)
This aint Madden

LMAO



5. When Justin Houston comes back, how do you see Dee Ford fitting in? He’s earned a place in there somewhere. Maybe split with Tamba Hali? — @RealMcCoy44

Ford has absolutely earned a role going forward. With his huge 3 1/2 -sack game, Ford has recorded seven this season, which puts him on pace for 16. And here’s the thing ... he genuinely seems to be looking forward to Houston’s return. Hali, 32, is dealing with knee problems and is content with a pinch-hitting role, so I’d imagine a solid three-man rotation — with Ford featured prominently — is in the cards. On passing downs, all three of them can play, with either Hali or Houston shifting inside. It will be up to defensive coordinator Bob Sutton to make it work, but I can tell you those guys are looking forward to it.

Read more here: http://www.kansascity.com/sports/spt...#storylink=cpy

Aspengc8 10-30-2016 05:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hometeam (Post 12517243)
This aint Madden

For CP, madden is real football.

What will most likely happen when Houston is back 100%, is you will see Houston/hali most of the time to match personnel unless its a definite situation or posse groupings (3/4 wr sets). might even see hali there if its a running situation. I'm not shitting on Ford, I just feel hali is better overall in any random situation.

edit: like that article suggusts, a split role. definitely have hali vs heavier sets

big nasty kcnut 10-30-2016 05:41 PM

Ford is a ****ing beast and when houston comes in oh shit it time for the pain train!

mdchiefsfan 10-30-2016 05:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 12517332)
I'm sure it's true to some extent, but it's not like Von Miller and Houston don't get a bunch of sacks against weak lines either.

True. I am more talking about his game as a whole: run defense, zone coverage, and pass rushing. If he can develop where we need him by the end of the season, we may see a terrifying Chiefs defense.

RunKC 10-30-2016 05:45 PM

When Houston returns you rotate all 3 just like you have been doing with Zombo.
Houston will definitely be on a pitch count for awhile which is completely fine with me. Ease him back

Pasta Little Brioni 10-30-2016 05:56 PM

Llllloaded loaded.

Mr. Laz 10-30-2016 06:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by keg in kc (Post 12517199)
Moving a 250 pound linebacker to defensive end in a 3-4 sounds about like the worst idea imaginable. Might as well just put a flashing neon light on his helmet that says 'run here'.

Ford is at his best on the LoS ... period.

ROLB/Rushbacker is where he belongs

Mr. Laz 10-30-2016 06:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hometeam (Post 12517243)
This aint Madden

I'm not talking about madden

ROLB/RDE - Hali
Houston in at his normal spot LOLB


Bring Ford in on the left of Dline (with extra Dline because of passing down)



Extra pass rushers are used by other teams all the time


It's really shocking how little people around here actually know about football.

kccrow 10-30-2016 06:55 PM

Eat crow about what? He still isn't good against the run, has one pass rush "move," and gets all his sacks against backups to backups. I'm not anointing the kid something great because he has some sacks. When he's a consistently good, complete OLB, then I'll eat crow.

Deberg_1990 10-30-2016 06:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kccrow (Post 12517714)
Eat crow about what? He still isn't good against the run, has one pass rush "move," and gets all his sacks against backups to backups. I'm not anointing the kid something great because he has some sacks. When he's a consistently good, complete OLB, then I'll eat crow.

:facepalm:



Can't you just enjoy a kid playing well and being a major contributor?

kccrow 10-30-2016 07:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 12517727)
:facepalm:



Can't you just enjoy a kid playing well and being a major contributor?

I know it's difficult to understand... He had a good game today against dog shit. I'm happy. I'm not eating crow about him though.

Rasputin 10-30-2016 07:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kccrow (Post 12517755)
I know it's difficult to understand... He had a good game today against dog shit. I'm happy. I'm not eating crow about him though.

Is it common for crow to eat crow? I wouldn't think you would eat yourself.

NJChiefsFan 10-30-2016 07:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aspengc8 (Post 12517044)
He's not starting over Tamba when Houston is back. 3rd down spell for either will work, but I cant see him starting over Hali. Ford has been improving, but Hali has been playing consistently well.

Is Tamba even outsnapping Zombo this year? I think Ford will get more plays than Tamba.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Laz (Post 12517139)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Current NFL Sack leaders:<br>1. Lorenzo Alexander 9.0<br>2. Vic Beasley 7.5<br>2. Von Miller 7.5<br>4. Brian Orakpo 7.0<br>4. Dee Ford 7.0</p>&mdash; Mike Conti (@MikeConti929) <a href="https://twitter.com/MikeConti929/status/792840640182845440">October 30, 2016</a></blockquote>
<script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

No matter what you think of Ford or what players he has beaten, this is hilarious. 0.5 sack less than Miller. Calling Ford a bust was always a massively premature thing to do. Even 2 years isn't exactly a lot of time.


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