My generation are a bunch of worthless ****s
 

**** em. Keep them unemployed and broke. They'll figure it out.

Amen. RIP First World.

I always thought just having a good health care coverage, a decent check to support yourself and potentially a family were key to JOB satisfaction...

Millennials may well be this countries greatest generation. By a wide margin.

Good luck with that you spoiled ****s

Grouping people by generation is bullshit...

I like being rewarded with money :)

Baby Boomers are the biggest pieces of shit this country has ever seen. ;)

Nothing wrong with wanting a satisfying work place.

Things gave changed in the business world and a lot of it is driven by younger folks demanding a better work/life balance.

There's a recent Schwaub commercial where a father and son are discussing investing. In it the father asks the son if he's investing. The son asks the father if he gets his fees back if the advice he gets doesn't pan out.

The father says "The world doesn't work like that".

The son says: "The world is changing".

Since the financial crisis in 07, companies have used that crisis as an excuse to give small raises or none at all in some cases.

I actually enjoy the idea of milennials in the work place. I truly like that they want it to be different for them.

Put those dumb ****ers in debtor's prison with Bob Cratchet.

Not where I work at. Most are self centered, low work ethics, and can't handle constructive criticism.

I won't take a position that doesn't offer incentives and bonus's. Big part of my compensation. I hand out recognition cash to my team members all the time. I've got a significant budget just for that.

Agreed

Discuss Thrower will once again be left out of the equation because he sucks at writing and I seriously doubt he can get a high level finance job because he spends too much time trolling.

My company does the same. And if they give a small corporate gift (those tiny Bluetooth speakers for example) they give a gift card for fuel, or food.

It helps immensely with retention of young folks.

I am sure, when the millennials find a good paying job and notice the taxes the government takes out of their paychecks they will wake up.

Until then...stupidity ensues.

I mean, it's nice to have that stuff, but I'm sure if asked if they value being treated fairly and respected for their work, they would value that over gift cards.

All this poll reveals is that a certain percentage of an age group really likes receiving nice shiny things for the work they do.

It's a pretty stupid poll, to be honest. What group of young people DOESN'T want that in their job?

I've struggled to communicate effectively with the generation... the old school "just get it done, I do t care if you wanted to go to crossfit" doesn't work well.

I've always been the guy who will do whatever it takes....3am and back at 6....leave on a 3 day work trip on 30 minutes notice. I get it done. Always have and it's how I got where I am and will be where I am going. If I ask you to do something you don't see me do often, I've probably spent hundreds of hours doing what I'm asking you to do.

Millennial are very techipnically talented and have much to offer.....but they tend to think that 3 months is really putting in their dues. They seek immediate reward, want credit and no tolerance for constructive criticism.

It's taken a lot of effort to figure out how to communicate effectively. Basically just give the young folks credit for everyting we accomplish, especially publically.

I would love to work for a boss like that.

I take exception to that OP!!!!


**** YOU!!!!!!!!!

Well shit, we live on a rock in outer space.. enjoy your life.

I find the inference that the millenial generation is the greatest generation by a wide margin almost as unsupported as is the inference that they are one of the laziest , most self-absorbed generations.

I have seen millenials work just as hard and put in long hours....and while they may not put in as long hours as boomers, they will put in the effort .

I've also seen the down side of their generation where self-entitled believe that by week eight they are entitled to the corner office, big expense account and are stunned when all they are given is a "your services are no longer needed".

But frankly i have seen that in almost every generation.

Actually, studies have been done on this subject. Basically trying to figure out how to get millenials to be productive. Millenials, in general, vies a job as nothing more than a gig between weekends. They are considered to be good at techy stuff, but not much else. Baby boomers are considered to be really good at structure in the work place, but Gen X (my generation), is considered to be the most productive generation across the board.

Who didn't see it that way when we were in our 20's?

how long on average do you fellas stay at the job you're at?

People who should be thankful for having a job in the first place?

I'm at 5y currently. My longest tenure.

ROFL

I'm not a good reference..I've been a self employed artist for 21 years.

I will say this, General contractors and Painting contractors have said that millennials are worthless when it comes to working hard.

I'm sure there are plenty who do work hard, so not painting with a broad brush.


no pun intended.

Meanwhile J1B visas are being handed out likely candy and corporations are keeping the money at the top of the totem pole hiring these immigrants that willing to work 60 hours a week on pay that is 60% of their fair market value.

The younger generation is just the worst.

/every generation

Oh they are noticing this. The ones that are employed that is.

I thought you got laid off? Did something change since you announce that?
If so glad to hear it.

The longest job I've had was 9 years or so and counting that I was a route driver for at least 12 years and still would be I think if it wasn't for back issues that kept me from doing things as I was a successful route driver as far as the company goes I won a trip to Cabo San Lucas Mexico so I considered that as huge success because it wasn't easy and being top region in sales for 6 months for the contest was pretty intense challenge. I think I'd still be there if it wasn't for back issues and I've had to adapt and cope since then so I've been averaging two or three years but always trying better my situation for living.

I loved being praised by my job and that helped with motivation but also when I was criticized it motivated me to do better to me life is about improving my life and that's how I try to manage myself even though through the years I haven't done all that good job about it especially my drinking and debauchery years.

Now I want to indulge but I know better and fishing takes precedence so I'm happy as long as I get to go fishing but depression happens when I'm not going much.

I think a job giving paid fishing days would be a great investment for employers to treat their employees. JMHO.

Just hit 4 years here. At 5 years I'm fully vested. If an offer presents after year 5, I have no problems jumping ship. I like my job but people sometimes offer good money to get you moved and I'll be willing to listen.

Bob Dole was at his last one for 16 years. Hopped around to 3 jobs to ratchet up salary for 5 years before that. 3 year break for college. Same company for 6 years before that.

Previous job 19yrs. Left them due to the instability of the company being bought and sold.
Current job 11 1/2 years. This will be my last job. I will probably retire from here in 4 or 5 yrs.

To be fair and clear, once I spent some time learning how to communicate better with my team it's been much better. They're all dependable and do a great job,and when it comes to tech stuff jump in and bring ideas. We have some other under 30s who are outstanding....they just need that reward.

Sorting through the people to find the good ones is the trick I think.

That is another story in itself. Some of the things you see in resumes and job interviews.....like bringing your mother to your job interview are the head scratchers with this generation.

This is about where I am, but I haven't hired many melenials. Hell, I may even be part of the generation (IDK, I'm 33), but at this point, if you can't help me get the work done to ultimately get the grain in the bin, get the **** out. Now. I know it's not a good approach to take, but it's where I find myself virtually every day, and it is difficult for me to keep my tongue bit.

I've often considered machining up, hiring the harvest and doing it all myself, but haven't forked out the cash to do it.

I can see their point. You can get a paycheck anywhere. It's what unique perks a company provides that sets it apart from a competitor. The shift of company pensions to 401ks that go with wherever you work means there are fewer reasons to stay loyal long term anymore.

"NEW RESEARCH SHOWS MILLENNIALS PLACE A HIGH IMPORTANCE ON EMPLOYEE GIFTS"

Says....A COMPANY THAT SELLS EMPLOYEE GIFTS. smh

I work to live not live to work. All these old guys dreams are all washed up so they think I should spend all day all night working. Sorry, once my bills or paid. I am done so I can enjoy life and not **** around.

Before I became self employed it was always about:

1. Fair compensation for work done
2. Satisfaction of the contribution to te company
3. Work environment

I like Millennials

The millennials who work for me are great. Then again that's why I hired them. And perks aren't a bad thing as long as they're performance based.

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So thats what happened to you. I always wondered how you ever got as completely stupid as you are.

You can leave many of us Boomers out of that equation. This new generation is amazing, they will do us proud if they stay on track.

There are losers and whiners from every age, shape, and color.


The cream will always rise.

:eek:

This right here!

The Greatest Generation would be so proud to know this is what they suffered & fought for.


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The greatest at Pokemon and Call of Duty, perhaps.

Mt. Dew Warriors

I do think some are being to harsh. Yes, the "current crop of youth/young adults" have always been "the worst" throughout history, but that doesn't mean the current group isn't awesome. While the current young generations have their fair share of publicized crap, my generation had useless clowns running around with tourniquets bandannas around their knees and others who sucked.

As for kids demanding perks, welp, if their skills are in demand, why not? And I can't think of a better way for a business to keep the highest performers the most rewarded - as it should be.

I have more of a problem with the group of people, that span many generations, who want a generous salary (or hourly wage) for being alive and just showing up. A hell of a lot more of a problem! Those people suck and can kiss my hairy ass!

The bottom line is paying for performance is awesome. If a little time off, or a decent office, or corporate stress-relieving squishy balls (that don't relieve stress), or incentive trips to great dive resorts (!!!!), or Amazon gift cards, are incentivizing higher performance, it's all good as long as it's earned.

Where did the millennials come from?

Weak sperm and inferior parenting.

Run a 4.12 40, 75 yards in the air, bench 3 bills, kid's not an entitled stain on society.

Millenials are equally proud that the greatest generation and baby boomers passed on a world overloaded with debt, greed, recession, and political corruption. Millenials have their annoying habits. But it's not like other generations are doing a banged up job themselves.

I speak with a lot of military people and the vast majority of those who are getting dirty and dusty taking the fight to the world's evil are millennials, and I'd say they are very wonderful men and women. Like every young military service member, the current millennials (as are most employed people) are lead by a progressively older group of people that span most the living generations, and the military is a great example of how awesome birds, with awesome feathers, flock together.

Millenials will make great advances and will also screw some things up, just like the generations before them. Millenials have grown up with more information at the tip of their fingers because of previous generations. "Greatest" generation is relative.

While true, the majority of these young shits seem far more emotionally fragile (relationships), desensitized (to violence or the general wretchedness of man), self-absorbed, entitled, and lack focus.

At the risk of sounding like a liberal, I think other generations can take credit for those who fit that description. Some of us worked very hard to strike a balance.

I've criticized Millenials quite a bit; maybe I should refrain from that. or I should be more specific. I have a low opinion of Millenial hipsters, youtube "stars" and social justice advocates. the rest are alright, I guess.

They're the result of the change in teaching. People thought that hurting a child's ego or breaking their will did more damage than good. This is when spanking your child basically became a crime, and everyone started getting trophies just for participating. We're no longer hurting children's feelings, but we're raising children who grow up feeling entitled.

It always cracks me up to hear people bitch and whine about the character of a generation THEY RAISED!

Our DNA isn't changing. Everything you dislike about this generation is a consequence of a society YOUR generation cultivated.

If you think they're entitled, that's because gen X allowed them to walk all over them as kids and as young adults.

What we should be talking about is the apathetic parenting of generation X. You allow TV to raise kids, and then act shocked when their values do not match up with yours. You have kids so accustomed to isolation that there is a shocking amount of video game addicted chronic masterbators with no interest in women. You allow them to put themselves into massive debt and peddle them off to universities and never even discuss with them college plans and career goals, leading to loads of kids with a bad degree, lots of debt, and no earning power. Gen X parents love to take the 'just let them make their own mistakes' style, which is just horseshit. IT's just laziness. Pure laziness. People would rather make more money to buy more stuff than spend time with their kids. A generation of parents who would capitulate to a spoiled brat because it was easier than correcting their behavior.

No generation before gen X pawned off more of their parenting on others, and now you guys just never stop bitching about the results. If you're going to wring your hands about that entire generation as a collective, why don't you look at your own generation collectively as well and maybe climb a few floors down off of that ivory tower?

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In Re: Boomers broke it!
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I feel it's always a mixed bag.

The new generations always want to leave an impact, make a change, but they always throw a lot of babies out with the bathwater.

The guy could have just nailed himself to a cross and saved me the time and effort of reading that self aggrandizing nonsense.

Let me sum it up for those who don't have the time:

Baby boomers are responsible for everything bad. Generation X is responsible for everything good.

:clap:

i've worked for the same company for almost 34 years. when i first started, i know i was pretty forceful in giving my thoughts & opinions on how things should be done. now i just come to work, keep my ****in head down and give them 8 quality hours. hopefully, i can go home and not get called back out.

times change, the company changes, so i either change or move on somewhere else. i'd rather change, for now.

i've watched the younger people get hired...most are talented as hell. some are pretty forceful in giving their thought & opinions on how things should be done. full circle, i guess.

in time, the younger become the older and maybe become a little more open minded. it's up to them.

as far as bonuses...idgaf. just pay me what's in the contract and i'm good.
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The ways some teach astounds me. Sometimes, kids need to hear no. Sometimes, their feelings need to be hurt. Its ok.

It is one of the reasons why everyone get so damn offended by the simplest/stupidest things. Free speech is dead.

we are starting to hire millenials in teaching.Most are doing ok. But a few don't understand why they don't get perks, benefits, bonuses. It is just not something that happens in education. You do get evaluated. A lot. When kids don't listen, they can understand. It takes time, discipline, work. Some don't do that.

Then when a kid tells them to F off-they cry, and want to quit.

I work in a tough building. I have seen more young people quit in the last 3 years then I ever have. They are blowing through vacation time and can't figure out why it is gone. Some just are not cut out for teaching.

My wife works in a heavy millennial office environment. She's a director in her 40's with a 28 year old VP as a boss. Her performance feedback goes like not being active enough on the interoffice social media platform, not giving enough publicly viewed kudos to people on the interoffice social media platform, and not participating in enough company encouraged after work social events (ie getting wasted and ****ing each other). It definitely seems to have shifted to an office culture perception (it's a lot of fun to work here, right? RIGHT?!) from a results driven work environment that our generation is used to. Fortunately we don't have kids so we can talk as much shit as we want.

Blame Silicon Valley.

I refuse to work at a company that doesn't offer things like incentives, telecommuting, and casual dress code.

Does anyone not want perks in their job? Or in life overall?
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You're a POS! How dare you want to work in a comfortable rewarding environment!
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5 years.