San Diego Stadium Measure Loses 61-39
 

The citizens of San Diego gave a big **** you to Dean Spanos last night. This measure needed 66.7 in favor and it got 39%.

One of two things will happen now, Dean will settle for Mission Valley, while footing most of the bill himself, or the AFC West will have another team in a new home (assuming Raiders move to Las Vegas).

http://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/...106-story.html

I would rather see SD move than Oakland, but it looks like they both may.

LA really doesn't need another team. That to me would be a disaster.

SD moves to Oakland

Oakland isn't paying for a new stadium either.

AND OAK TO EGGO!!

Spanos just needs to sell that team and get out of the NFL business. With the NFL's popularity taking a hit, now might be the time to cut and run.

Blame it on Dean Spanos but the truth is San Diego voters are ****ing reeruned. Oceanside elected a dead man for City Treasurer for ****s sake.

Just because people CAN vote doesn't mean they know wtf they're doing.

Golden State Chargers

Amen.

St. Louis Chargers or Archers, Arches?

San Antonio SuperChargers!! Come on down!

LMAO

Welcome Los Angeles Chargers and Las Vegas Raiders.

Not gonna happen

Now this actually could happen

If that is how it goes down it will take some time to get use to.

They are stupid to have put that on a general election ballot.

dumb dumb dumb

The media markets are really close and Texas LOVES its football. They would probably build 2 stadiums on top of each other if they could.

Still would have lost.

I really doubt the Chargers move to Los Angeles.

They can barely sell out games in San Diego. They'd have 50,000 no shows each week in the new stadium.

I suspect the Chargers stay at the Murph until 2020 and at that point, the Spanos family will either need to sell 49% of the team in order to pay for a new stadium or the NFL will outright force them to sell 100% of the team.

The other option would be to move north and share the 49ers new stadium in Santa Clara and rename the team as the East Bay Chargers or something like that. The Spanos family is from Stockton, so it would be a fit for them.

It was a joke homeslice.

Truth. I've said this for ****ing years.

Voting to not get ripped off in financing a stadium that will have a negative return on investment seems like the public knows what it is doing.

Do you know the terms of the proposal? Considering this is a tourism tax and San Diegans wouldn't pay a cent, i don't believe you do.

Do you think the "tourism tax" will actually fully pay for the bonds?

Why wouldn't it?

As an SD resident, I actually voted for it as 100% of the funds would come out of an increased 5% tourism tax at hotels (rather than the general fund). I think the big reason it didn't pass is that many voters didn't understand that the funds are NOT coming from the general fund which subsidizes the city.

It was not a tax on residents.

Measure C was a hotel occupancy tax increase of 6% that would have help to fund a new downtown stadium for the Chargers.

That said, tourism is a large industry for San Diego and an additional 6% tax wouldn't have been appealing to travelers.

Most tax projections are shall we say very optimistic about the amount of money the tax will actually bring in.

Not to mention the 5% tax people are paying on their hotels, and lets not forget that it is not only tourists and visitors that use hotels, is less money that can be spent on other goods and services in San Diego.

Yup. I was shocked after talking to my wife and Sister in Law yesterday that they both were against Measure C because "They didn't want to pay taxes for a Billionaire's Stadium".

I went on an epic rant for like 15 minutes.....

The Chargers failed horribly to educate the voters.

61-39 that leaves San Diego with 22 fans ouch that has got to hurt their stadium attendance.

We're talking about a deal here in which once the Stadium is paid off, the hotel tax would go directly to the City's general fund.

A deal in which the Chargers are responsible for cost over runs.

The Chargers would still be paying rent to lease the building.

The Chargers would pay maintainance costs.

The Chargers would yield the profits from the 8 games a year they host there, but all other events would go directly to the city. The Stadium will be owned by the city.

The stadium was also designed to double up as an extension of the Convention Center, which has long been talked about for expansion.

The alternative is that you lose an NFL franchise.

Yeah, im sorry but the voters were reeruned here.

Like i said, one our towns in the county voted for a dead man to be their treasurer.....

No kidding... a WAY better deal than the crap that us in Vegas are getting bamboozled with... and we didn't even get a say.

If that's really what the people thought then ****.

I thought it was more about not giving an NFL owner a handout and hamstringing the tourism industry in San Diego.

Seeing as tourism is San Diego's #1 industry and that Hoteliers were against it, I'm not surprised it didn't pass. I thought it would have been closer to 50% though.

Apparently, the numbers were updated and it lost 57-43.

Fremont Chargers?

It's the best deal a city could ask for outside of some Stan Kronke treatment.

You know what our dumb**** mayor and council members would RATHER do?

Build a new stadium at the current location using the city's general fund, thus taxing San Diegans......backwards ass politicians man....

Instead of supporting an initiative that DOESN'T cost the tax payers, they support one that does....go figure....

Same. I never thought it'd get 67%, the required figure. But i thought they could could 50-55%, which would at the very least show an interest and bring the Chargers back to the negotiating table.

Truth

Ok. I don't know anything about this measure. But couldn't you just raise the hotel tax and have that go to the City in the first place? So if you sent that revenue to the Charger's owners, San Diego citizens are still paying more tax than they would/could otherwise.

Granted, for the 8 home games a year you might have a few more hotel rentals and there may be other upsides. Still smells like a subsidy to me.

Wait until the next Bronco stadium comes up for vote. I'll be voting down any taxes for it's construction. **** you billionaires... (in my best Chris Tucker) you build and pay for your own shit! Leave the taxpayer out of it.

Albuquerque Chargers


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I wonder if St Louis would try to lure them? I'm sure that they would like to get an NFL team back.

I'm hoping the Raiders deal falls through and the Chargers move to Vegas instead.

Not happening

ROFL

http://i.imgur.com/MCFREMD.jpg

Love it......and what the hell, it might just work! Just make sure that you don't put the tunnels North and South...

I would love it but there is no way Jerry would sit still for that. When the Raiders were talking about maybe moving there he just about lost it. As if Texas couldn't support a third NFL team. :rolleyes:

Has any announcement by the Chargers been made since the vote?


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They came out and said Thanks for the Support and that they will hold off on any decisions until this season is over.

St. Louis is done with the NFL unless some team wants to relocate and pay for a stadium.