49ers request permission to interview Chris Ballard
 

Ian Rapoport

#49ers requested permission to interview #Chiefs director of football operations Chris Ballard, source said, for their GM job.

It's been fun Chris. Thanks for helping us draft Peters, Ford, Jones, etc

If he gets it, I'd imagine he takes Toub with him as HC

Nooooooooo!


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I know this is dependent on who interviews him, but if I were Ballard, I'd hold out for a different job. The Niners are truly ****ed for a good long while.

Yep. Ownership is bad in SF.

Can't they ****ing wait until the playoffs/season is over?

isn't that a good thing in this case? The cupboard is completely bare; he would be able to pick his own players from top to bottom. Kind of like he helped do here post Fat Scott era.

If he interviews with the Rams he's handcuffed to the QB that he didn't pick

only if we get the 9ers draft first pick, or at least 2 2nds ( in know, that doesn't happen anymore ).

Yep - he's turned down interview requests in the past. I think his kids are in high school in KC too.

He did interview in Tennessee and Chicago.

I think if McDaniels wants to go to the 49ers, he'll get to pick his GM.

Dang... If he gets it and leaves, just hope others don't follow.

Leves?

This is going to sound really ****ing ridiculous, but here it goes.

I'd honestly rather go to Cleveland if I were Ballard. Then again, I'm a weirdo who likes living in the upper midwest, and I don't give a shit about "NOTHING TO DO" in my city. If I'm an NFL GM, I'm going to be working 24/7 anyway, and when I'm not, I'm going on vacation regardless of whether I'm living in Cleveland or ****ing Fiji.

From a talent perspective, Cleveland is no worse off than San Francisco. And can you imagine being the guy who finally resurrects the Cleveland Browns? Holy shit. Never have to pay for a ****ing meal for the rest of your life.

DO NOT break up the band.

Typed fast. Thank you for pointing that out. I'll go back and fix. Should I return the favor? It would kind of suck if everyone did that. You know? :shrug:

It happens to successful organizations - you lose good lieutenants.

Your hope is that's all they are; lieutenants. When the Cards lost Luhnow, they lost the actual brains of their organization and got left with a bowtie wearing schmuck that knows just enough to not lose 90 games and beat on the doofus ****s like Jim Hendry, but not enough to run with legitimately savvy organizations.

So do we think Ballard is the brains and Dorsey's just a lucky figurehead? Nah...I don't. And if that's the case, the Chiefs will be okay. There's no shortage of good football minds and talent scouts out there. The key is the ability to blend them all in a cohesive unit that's all pulling on the same side of the rope with the same set of ideas. I would think that would be Dorsey's responsibility and it shouldn't be too difficult for him to find another smart scout to plug in. That's the nature of good leadership; it replaces pieces and keeps chugging.

As for the coaching staff, I sure hope they don't lose Toub but I suspect they probably will; he's due a shot at the big chair.

Dorsey has had years to prepare for it to finally happen. Don't think Ballard will take that job, or even get offered.

Think they will lock in on mcd and a guy he takes with him from NE as GM.

Toub certainly deserves a shot but I am hoping he enjoys the situation he is in. I remember reid saying it was toub's call as far as the wilson fake punt. Letting your ST coach make that call shows they give him a significant say.

I actually worry a bit about losing Al Harris to a promotion of some sort. You don't see a ton of DB coaches make the move to the DC gig (I tend to think of LB coaches getting that gig for some reason). But perhaps some team will give him greater responsibility with an inside track at being the next in line.

They need to do whatever they can to hold onto Harris, IMO. Emmitt Thomas is the elder statesman and face of the secondary but I have to believe it's Harris that's doing the bulk of the coaching and Thomas is more of a figurehead.

You know, my first impression of the 49ers was that I liked them...I liked Montana and I loved the best down the 49ers gave Elway in the 89 or 90 a Super Bowl.

Anymore, though...I am really starting to hate that team.

After what happened in Denver that would be just stupid, but that does seem to be the 49ers MO lately.

'Effete Raiders' as your team's personality doesn't have the staying power that you think it might...

If the 49'ers recent track record tells us anything, they'll interview Chris Ballard and hire Scott Pioli.

LMAO Nailed it.

They may just have Emmitt slide into an advisory role like they did with Tommie Brasher.

Super Bowl for KC first

Then best of luck to everyone

The cup board was not bare at all posts Scott pioli
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I wouldn't take the SF job if I was Ballard.

Jed York is a ****. He's a meddling **** who couldn't keep an all-world coach and basically forced him out.

Maybe we can start a 20 year tradition where the 49ers keep stealing people away from the Chiefs.

I agree on this job though... the ownership in SF scares me. They basically dismantled a championship caliber team for no good reason. They did have a couple surprise retirements, but they went from great to terrible in a hurry.

My friend who is a big 9ers fan text me today and showed me the tweet of York saying "I own this football team, and you don't dismiss owners." Rough spot for 49er fans.

Ian Rapoport

Frustration from #49ers coaches as it relates to GM Trent Baalke: He never talked to them. Never asked em what players they liked. Nothing.

Stay far away from this guy, Chris

They owe 69 million to fired coaches. They have the 2nd worst roster.

It's a shit job

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Chris would be taking Baalke's job. This has no implications at all concerning Chris.

However, it's still an interesting tweet because Knowhomo was circulating a rumor that the Donks want Trent Baalke....

Baalke got fired.

I don't have a link but it's Alex Marvez from fox sports on his FB page basically says Ballard wants input on the HC hire. For a first time GM that may make some owners hesitate. From just a fan perspective with no inside knowledge I think he looks at Dorsey not leaving GB all those years until the right opportunity presented itself. But money talks and I think he would have no problem filling out a staff of scouts and football operation folks being well connected with plenty of those folks. Just a matter of if he has unrealistic wants in terms of control and who he has in mind as his HC besides Toub

That's an understandable request.

If you're a first time GM and the ownership puts in a 'veteran' head coach, you know you're little more than a director of player personnel. And worse, if that coach fails, you'll lose your job before he does.

I don't think it's a problem to at least say "look, if I'm coming here, I want to know who I'm working with and what's going to happen if it doesn't work out". That's a more than fair request for someone that's going to be sought after.

Ballard doesn't have the cache to just call his shot, but he's going to have his pick of jobs over the next year or two, IMO. And while I'm not sure he'll have the influence to say "I want you to hire THIS guy or I simply won't come", he may be able to say "hey, what's your short list?" and have genuine input as to the 5-6 strong candidates that are going to be looked at.

I don't want anybody on the Chiefs to leave. After half a dozen Super Bowls, yeah, then take your shot. But this team still has a lot of blank resume space to fill.

Yep. And if you recall lovie and the Bucs job was his if he wanted it. They basically sold it to him that it's a carbon copy of KC with Dorse and Reid and he turned them down. Smart move with suspect ownership and Lovie he certainly knew very well. He's doing what he feels is best and waiting for the best fit and feel. Certainly can't blame him.

Also just a really smart hire from the get go by Dorsey. Ballard without looking his resume up was about a ten year area scout with one year promoted to director of pro scouting. Dorsey knows him from being in the division and like so many times it's brought up it's about relationships with people in the business. Doesn't have to be someone you worked with before but someone you can look at and say this guy has good relationships at the schools (he has ties to Texas and south in his area scouting day) and he's flat out very good at his job. So if he goes he will be missed but it will give someone else the chance to step up

Everything coming out of SF and Buffalo today should severely limit the number of potential head coaches and GM's for both clubs.

As bad as the Bills have been (no playoff appearances since 1999), the 49ers gig is radioactive.

What great candidate would want to work in that environment?

Yeah York is a young arrogant dipshit who knows nothing about football. That's how it appears to me anyway in my limited following of SF. Dude is in need of a Ron Wolf or Ernie Accorsi type consultant in his searches IMO. Seems to arrogant to go that route though

What a strange, strange interview with Doug Whaley today.

Whaley was my top choice way back when the Pioli hire was made, but I tell you what, he looked COMPLETELY out of his depth dealing with the media today. He looked so unprepared that it makes you question how seriously he takes any area of his responsibility.

It was just oddly unprofessional. Nobody that works in the NFL, let alone as one of the very few top executives in this league, should ever sit out there stammering for 40 minutes like that. That just reeks of hubris.

Yeah...I'm thinking I'd steer clear of Buffalo right now. The whole Rex Ryan era and the bizarre Doug Marrone thing (the guy pretty much set his coaching career on fire rather than stay in Buffalo) is a pretty lousy background to step into.

My buddy out there says everyone thinks Caserio sp?/ McDaniel is the early favorite

Seems like a great job for a GM. The last one should have been fired 3 years ago.

The only explanation, and this is a reach, is that Whaley wants to be fired.

I mean, the ****ing guy called out the owners, of which, Kim Pegula has too much power.

Marrone proved in just two games that Gus Bradley was severely overmatched as a head coach and honestly, if I was an NFL owner, never hire him as a DC. They have lots of talent in Jax but under performed on both sides of the ball.

Would you offer Marrone the HC position?

Both men would be fools to take those jobs.

Hell, O'Brien may be out in Houston and Rick Smith should definitely go. Considering they're already in the "Patriots Way" mode, they make much more sense there than in SF.

SF is a cluster**** and probably a worse gig than Cleveland.

In Jacskonville? No.

That organization needs sweeping changes and a change of culture.

Marrone's an upgrade over Bradley but they need a new voice in the locker room.

Owner meddling almost never works in this day and age. The Skins have gotten better after Synder learned to stop meddling.

Eh, I'm not sure I'd go that far w/r/t to Bradley.

The Jags had EIGHT one-score losses under Bradley. In a one score game, you can find a lot of things that have very little to do with the coach that can explain it. A great deal of it comes from one of the more bizarre regressions I've ever seen from a promising young QB.

Marrone lost a game on Sunday in the same kind of late, heartbreaking fashion that Bradley lost several games this year. I don't think Marrone showed that he's a substantially better coach than Bradley and I think Marrone's probably an average NFL coach.

Bradley will get to go the Haley route now. He needs to go back to being a DC somewhere (and I think he'll be a good one again) and excel long enough to lick his wounds, learn some lessons and maybe get another shot. It's the NFL - nobody's ever guaranteed a do-over and if he never gets one, so be it. But I don't think it's fair to say he was completely overmatched either.

He's just not an offensive coach and he didn't have the assistants around him to help him out when Bortles started going sideways. Once Bortles imploded and Bradley lacked the knowledge/staff to fix it, he was boned.

Not by much.

14-48, Dude.

14-48.

Yep :thumb:

I haven't heard anything. What is coming out?

Other than Baalke and Kelly being shitcanned. And yeah. That place looks radioactive.

Buffalo GM Doug Whaley had a bizarre news conference in which he said that he "had no idea why Rex Ryan was fired" and wasn't "privy to that information".

In SF, it came out that Baalke never spoke with the coaches about draftees or players they liked. Kelly wanted Dak Prescott but Baalke said no.

The owner, Jed York, said "You don't dismiss owners" when asked about his poor tenure since being named club president.

Who, in their right mind, would want to work in Buffalo or SF after these bizarre statements?

"I'm here to speak on behalf of the owners..."

"How can you do that if you weren't part of the conversation?"

"Uh......"

Like I said, just bizarre as hell. Then the whole thing about how he didn't hire Ryan but he's going to hire the new guy...once the owners say it's okay. Oh, and evidently he didn't have anything to do with Lynn coaching this last game but rather it was at Ryan's recommendation?

Alexander Haig seemed more composed than Doug Whaley.

Jesus.

How the hell can people THIS incompetent get multi-million dollar jobs? I'm a horrible public speaker, but I could put together a press conference that was at least coherent. It would be boring but coherent.

And I'm not making millions.

Doug Whaley looks ****ing great in a suit.

That counts for something.

I mean seriously - get a look at this dapper mother****er right here...

http://www.buffalobills.com/assets/i...dibh-story.jpg

I'd kick him at least a hundred bucks to give me advise on proper posture if nothing else.

Pegula's given a little more information:

http://www.charlotteobserver.com/new...124185914.html

The basic reason why Ryan was fired mid-week during a conference call had nothing to do with the Bills 'trying to get a head start' on their coaching search or anything you normally hear.

No - the reason, boiled down - he asked, I answered.

Pegula was going to evaluate his performance after the season but during a mid-week conference call, Ryan asked to speak directly to Pegula for a minute so Whaley hung up. Ryan asked if he would be retained and Pegula evidently decided "eh, **** evaluation, I'm just gonna fire him" and told him he wouldn't be retained right then and there. So Ryan said that Lynn should coach the next game, Pegula said okay, called Whaley back and told him he had a new coach now.

What in the actual ****?

Yeah, stay far the **** away from Buffalo.

I wonder if he can still stand like that after they cut off his nuts

Tie is off kilter. A simple tie pin below the jacket or on the third button if you want it visible.

Plus I never could get into the white collar with patterned shirt.

**** this mother****er :D

LMAO There is no way that isn't batshit crazy. However, there is a good chance there is another side of the story. You know, the one where Rex Ryan says Rex Ryan things.

The Pegula's were seen as "saviors" of the Buffalo sports scene because they purchased the Sabres and kept them there. Since a hot start and a new arena, the Sabres have been awful.

The reason why they were chosen as owners over Donald Trump, Jon Bon Jovi, et al, is that they promised to keep the Bills in Buffalo, with the possibility of massive renovations or a new stadium, whereas the other potential owners wouldn't make that promise.

They have no idea as to how to run a sports franchise, so no, this isn't shocking.

That owner sounds amazingly stupid for someone in charge of an NFL franchise. However there is quite a few wackjobs in the leauge, Clark is the only thing approaching normal in the entire AFC West. We have "my team is homeless" Spanos, Pat "I married the Joker" Bowlen, and Flowbee/Chilisboy driving his 1997 caravan around.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">With a great situation in KC &amp; an excellent relationship wih GM John Dorsey, <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash">#Chiefs</a> personnel man Chris Ballard won&#39;t interview with <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/49ers?src=hash">#49ers</a></p>&mdash; Ian Rapoport (@RapSheet) <a href="https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/816076106075934721">January 3, 2017</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

:) :)

Wow.

So, it sounds like Ballard won't be going anywhere just yet.

Ballard will get his shot but he should pass on SF. York is the new old Al Davis except without any football knowledge. Hes a disaster of an owner. Not many owners could/would **** up what they had going in SF a few years ago. York showed hes one that could and would.

Excellent.

Ballard won't leave the comfort of KC unless he's offered a GM job with full control by a team with excellent ownership. Those jobs don't come open very often and he's likely content to wait.

The Glazers are nuts, as are the York's. He's not going to any team in the AFC North or East or South.

It'll need to be a great franchise, not a dumpster fire.

Holy crap. That is insane.

He interviewed with the Titans and bears last year. Looks like he didn't wanna go to San Fran cluster****

Makes me glad we have Reid and Dorsey. Going through that Pioli shit and seeing these type of stories, it makes me appreciate what we have right now.

Not only is Ballard not interviewing with 49ers, he's not interviewing anywhere. He's staying in KC according to Rapsheet.

The Titans hired maybe only second BB GM to succeed in Jon Robinson. He's upgraded the roster and has a shit ton of picks in 2017.

IIRC, Ballard scared the shit out of the Bears during the interview process.

Turns out, he was right.

It sounds to me like he's got a small list of teams he'd go to and if those jobs aren't open, he's perfectly fine staying here.

I think he turned down an interview with the Bucs in 2014 as well.

Great news.

Ballard is more important than people realize. Glad he's staying.

Agreed. We deserve a goddamned Dorsey Dynasty after suffering through Schaaf, King Carl and Scott Franchise Killer Pioli.

Look there is no reason for him to be in a hurry. Hate making this comparison because it's not fair to Ballard, but he's like Pioli back when we landed him. Hot name, who didn't jump at the first opportunity that presented itself. The Chiefs are built for longterm success, its not a flash in the pan, so he can wait for the right job. My fear is he goes to San Diego or something after they relocate.