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RunKC 01-03-2017 09:07 AM

Patrick Mahomes
 
I am so high on this kid right now, and it says a lot bc I'm terrified of taking a Big 12 QB (they never work out) but Jesus Christ is this kid impressive as hell. He looks just as good as any QB in this class bar none.

Let's review:

-above average size/build (6'3" 230 lbs)
-above average mobility
-elite arm...his dad played for the Twins so it's in his genes.
-solid accuracy
-set a lot of passing records
-smart kid
-only 21 years old

Watch this kid play. Seriously. He's got arm talent that can remind people of the same talent Aaron Rodgers had as a prospect. Not just arm strength but a quick release.

This guy looks like the next Russell Wilson/Dak Prescott and he would be a great fit here.

Direckshun 01-03-2017 09:54 AM

I don't know what exactly his NFL comparison is yet. All I know is that I really, really like the kid. He's got so much going for him.

The thing going against him, goddamn it, is the terrible track record of air raid QBs in the NFL. That does scare me.

It's early, but right now I'd burn a 3rd on him. Maybe a 2nd.

The Franchise 01-03-2017 09:55 AM

If we can't get Kizer...I'm on the Mahomes train.

RunKC 01-03-2017 10:07 AM

I'm not worried about the Air Raid offense for this team. Andy has spread principles all over the place and has basically made the spread offense a huge part of his offense to accommodate Alex.

It's set up for him

Direckshun 01-03-2017 10:30 AM

What's the best QB in an air raid-esque offense we've seen the past few years?

Case Keenum?

O.city 01-03-2017 11:17 AM

He's really really raw. Coming from that offense, he's atleast a year away. Maybe 2.

I'd throw a 2nd on him but man, tough sell for me

DaneMcCloud 01-03-2017 12:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 12657994)
He's really really raw. Coming from that offense, he's atleast a year away. Maybe 2.

I'd throw a 2nd on him but man, tough sell for me

I'd be thrilled to get him in the 2nd round but I wouldn't even blink if they took him in Round 1.

Ideal size, canon for an arm, smart, gutsy player. Yes, he needs at least a full year of development (if not 2) but well worth the risk and waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay ahead of Paxton Lynch, IMO.

Draft him in 2017, sit him all year, let him compete in 2018. If all works well, he could take over mid-season 2018 or at the latest, 2019.

The Franchise 01-03-2017 12:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 12658154)
I'd be thrilled to get him in the 2nd round but I wouldn't even blink if they took him in Round 1.

Ideal size, canon for an arm, smart, gutsy player. Yes, he needs at least a full year of development (if not 2) but well worth the risk and waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay ahead of Paxton Lynch, IMO.

Draft him in 2017, sit him all year, let him compete in 2018. If all works well, he could take over mid-season 2018 or at the latest, 2019.

Boom.

O.city 01-03-2017 12:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 12658154)
I'd be thrilled to get him in the 2nd round but I wouldn't even blink if they took him in Round 1.

Ideal size, canon for an arm, smart, gutsy player. Yes, he needs at least a full year of development (if not 2) but well worth the risk and waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay ahead of Paxton Lynch, IMO.

Draft him in 2017, sit him all year, let him compete in 2018. If all works well, he could take over mid-season 2018 or at the latest, 2019.

I thought you were against taking guys in the first round that couldn't play immediately?

I'm not taking a guy in the first thay could potentially need 2 years before he's ready to play. You're losing 2 years of value on the guy, then only have 3 years before you have to pay him.

Direckshun 01-03-2017 12:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 12658176)
I thought you were against taking guys in the first round that couldn't play immediately?

I'm not taking a guy in the first thay could potentially need 2 years before he's ready to play. You're losing 2 years of value on the guy, then only have 3 years before you have to pay him.

While that is a completely fair complaint, I think it's invalid regarding potential franchise QBs.

If you develop him and he lands, then you've got a franchise guy for 10-15 years. Thats worth the time investment, unless he goes Full Paxton Lynch out of the gate.

Hard to believe the Chiefs reportedly wanted that guy...

carcosa 01-03-2017 12:50 PM

Seems like great value for the 32nd pick!

O.city 01-03-2017 12:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 12658190)
While that is a completely fair complaint, I think it's invalid regarding potential franchise QBs.

If you develop him and he lands, then you've got a franchise guy for 10-15 years. Thats worth the time investment, unless he goes Full Paxton Lynch out of the gate.

Hard to believe the Chiefs reportedly wanted that guy...

Eh, lynch played 2 games as a rookie. LooKs bad, but not gonna write him off completely at this point.
.the problem is, with a rookie qbs contract, you're afforded a huge bonus to build the team around him because he's cheap for 5 years.

If they guy isn't gonna play for 2 of the 5, or atleast be the starter, your losing 40% of the value to the rest of the team building.

1 year Id think would be applicable, but 2 years is tough. Then you've got to make a decision to pay him as a franchise qb at some point, and you're not gonna do that after seeing him play 1 full year, so you'd have to do it after 2, or with the 5th year option, 3.

I'm not totally against it as you've said, the big reward is a franchise qb. But from a value standpoint, 2 years is tough

O.city 01-03-2017 01:00 PM

On second thought though, due to the 5th year ootion, if they're gonna take him, do it in the first.

Chief Northman 01-04-2017 11:04 AM

This kid is not Dak Prescott.

Bust. Allergic to the pocket and throws off his back foot too often. Annoying tip-offs to his delivery as well, as he is a "tapper".

He is more along the Terrelle Pryor line than a Prescott.

DaneMcCloud 01-05-2017 03:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 12658176)
I thought you were against taking guys in the first round that couldn't play immediately?

I'm not taking a guy in the first thay could potentially need 2 years before he's ready to play. You're losing 2 years of value on the guy, then only have 3 years before you have to pay him.

I am usually against it but in this case, it could be well worth the risk.

Having the 5th year option on a guy that's potentially a Franchise QB is worth its weight in gold.

But if Dorsey & Reid pass on him, it's all good. Josh Norris has done a good job illustrating how much development Mahomes needs, so getting him in the first might be a real reach.

O.city 01-05-2017 07:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 12662171)
I am usually against it but in this case, it could be well worth the risk.

Having the 5th year option on a guy that's potentially a Franchise QB is worth its weight in gold.

But if Dorsey & Reid pass on him, it's all good. Josh Norris has done a good job illustrating how much development Mahomes needs, so getting him in the first might be a real reach.

Yeah man, Mahomes has alot of rough edges. I dunno, seems a ways off.

Buehler445 01-05-2017 08:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 12657869)
I'm not worried about the Air Raid offense for this team. Andy has spread principles all over the place and has basically made the spread offense a huge part of his offense to accommodate Alex.

It's set up for him

Nah, his offense is pretty much one read. That won't work in the NFL.

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 12658154)
I'd be thrilled to get him in the 2nd round but I wouldn't even blink if they took him in Round 1.

Ideal size, canon for an arm, smart, gutsy player. Yes, he needs at least a full year of development (if not 2) but well worth the risk and waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay ahead of Paxton Lynch, IMO.

Draft him in 2017, sit him all year, let him compete in 2018. If all works well, he could take over mid-season 2018 or at the latest, 2019.

If you think he's your guy, take him in the first. If not, don't.

If you think he's your guy do whatever it takes to make him successful over the long term. Rams caught a lot of hell for sitting him, but if he's the guy and he needs to sit, sit him. Fisher was a joke, but he was making the right call if the kid wasn't ready. Now, if the kid sucks, that's bad news, but if he needs to sit, sit him, no matter where he was drafted.

Tribal Warfare 01-06-2017 12:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Buehler445 (Post 12662766)
Nah, his offense is pretty much one read. That won't work in the NFL.



If you think he's your guy, take him in the first. If not, don't.

If you think he's your guy do whatever it takes to make him successful over the long term. Rams caught a lot of hell for sitting him, but if he's the guy and he needs to sit, sit him. Fisher was a joke, but he was making the right call if the kid wasn't ready. Now, if the kid sucks, that's bad news, but if he needs to sit, sit him, no matter where he was drafted.

If he aces his interviews, then I'd take if he's available in the 1st. The kid is a stud

KChiefs1 02-13-2017 09:51 PM

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Jim Raynor 02-13-2017 11:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 12657850)
If we can't get Kizer...I'm on the Mahomes train.

Agree with this.

I think Mahomes has the skills to be a franchise guy.

That being said, the Chiefs will probably draft a gaurd. :(

SAGA45 02-14-2017 01:03 AM

I've been waiting for Lance Zierlein's nfl.com scouting report for Mahomes a few weeks now and he's finally posted it. I know the Cutler comparison seems off but I think Zierlein is looking at confidence, arm talent and aggressiveness vs some questionable decision making at times and not necessarily saying Cutler is Mahomes' potential bar. FWIW Zierlein has Mahomes ranked 3rd among QB's behind Trubisky and Watson.

Quote:

OVERVIEW
If you're a quarterback in Texas running the spread attack that is prevalent throughout the state, playing for Texas Tech is a natural fit. The son of the former major league pitcher of the same name has a big-league arm, and used it quite a bit in high school (4,619 yards, 50 TDs as a senior) and more than anyone else in college football the past two seasons.

Mahomes began his career by starting the Red Raiders' final four games his true freshman year (1,547 yards, 16 TDs, four INTs, 56.8 completion percentage), one of those games being a 598-yard, six-touchdown effort against a top-10 team in Baylor. He earned honorable mention All-Big 12 notice for the second straight year in 2015, starting every game and leading the FBS with 393 yards of total offense per game (4,653 yards, 36 TDs, 15 INTs, 63.5 completion pct). Mahomes was a second-team all-conference pick in his final year with Tech in 2016, leading the FBS with 421 passing yards per game (5,052 total, 41 TDs, 10 INTs, 65.7 completion pct). He's also been a threat with his big-bodied frame and strong legs the past three years, scoring 22 times on the ground.

ANALYSIS

STRENGTHS Possesses NFL body type for work inside and out of the pocket. Has an undeniable swagger and confidence to his game. Accuracy has improved in each season since his freshman year. Naturally accurate in his every day throws. Comfortable challenging defenders in space. Has arm strength and fearlessness to attack the cover-2 voids down the sideline. Can make deep, field side throws. Cranks up velocity to fit passes into tight windows.

Former pitcher who propels hips through his release with aggressive torque and never gets cheated on his follow-through. Can deliver strikes from a variety of arm angles. Expedites release on RPOs (run-pass option) or when pressure is mounting in pocket. Puts effort into play-action fakes. Relaxed and effective when throwing on the move. Can be a legitimate dual-threat in a boot-action offense.

Improved his eye manipulation over the years and will eyeball linebackers to hold them while patterns unfold around them. Has pocket mobility to escape pressure and the poise to extend plays and find alternate targets. Hands are very strong. Can pump and reset without issues. Competes as a runner and is willing to go the extra mile for the first down.

WEAKNESSES Can be inconsistent in his approach. Needs to play inside the offense and show more discipline. Too eager to go big game hunting. Ravenous appetite for the explosive play can also bring unwanted trouble. Willingness to default to playground style appears to limit his ability to get into a consistent rhythm. Needs to improve anticipatory reads and learn to take what the defense gives him.

Decision making can go from good to bad in a moment's notice. Operates from a narrow base and allows his upper body and arm to race ahead of his feet. Has a dip and wind-up in his standard release. Explosive delivery and follow-through causes some throws to sail. Needs better touch on intermediate and deep balls.

Carries ball a little low in the pocket. Impatient. Will leave pocket prematurely rather than standing in and winning in rhythm. Better as a scrambler than pure runner. Looked a little less mobile in the open field this season.

SOURCES TELL US "He's got a great arm, big balls and he's mobile. He is going to drive his head coach crazy for the first couple of years and there is no getting around that. If it clicks for him and he's coachable, I think he could become a special quarterback." - NFC executive

NFL COMPARISON Jay Cutler

BOTTOM LINE Mahomes is a big, confident quarterback who brings a variety of physical tools to the party, but he's developed some bad habits and doesn't have a very repeatable process as a passer. Mahomes' ability to improvise and extend plays can lead to big plays for his offense, but he will have to prove he can operate with better anticipation and be willing to take what the defense gives him in order to win from the pocket. Mahomes will be a work in progress, but he's a high ceiling, low floor prospect.

-Lance Zierlein
LINK - http://www.nfl.com/draft/2017/profil...mes?id=2558125

Sandy Vagina 02-14-2017 06:41 AM

^ sounds like a slower Colin Kaepernick.

Chris Meck 02-14-2017 11:46 AM

sounds like Bret Favre.

RippedmyFlesh 02-14-2017 12:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sandy Cheeks (Post 12740237)
^ sounds like a slower Colin Kaepernick.

The only comparison to kap that I care about is that he sends alex packing.

O.city 02-14-2017 12:25 PM

Even if he is Kap ( I dont' think he is, I don't really care for that comparison, but w/e), the Chiefs have a great coaching staff to coach up young players.

I think Kap would have been much better had the 9er FO not been horrible and kept Harbs around.

RippedmyFlesh 02-14-2017 12:34 PM

If they like him they need to take him in 1st round and not dick around. If he is considered a 2nd rounder then taking him at 27 is not a stretch if he may not be there at 54.

O.city 02-14-2017 12:35 PM

With the 5th year option, it's imperative to get a good player in the first. A QB turning into a franchise guy taken there would be nice.

RippedmyFlesh 02-14-2017 12:48 PM

Nobody ever seems to put blame on the teams when qbs fail. Those qbs that failed in Cleveland had no chance to succeed. And the fact that they don't achieve when they leave is arrested development more so than lack of talent. KC is the best situation for a rookie qb since pitt took ben. The chiefs have enough leadership and talent to have a young qb develop.

O.city 02-14-2017 12:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RippedmyFlesh (Post 12740741)
Nobody ever seems to put blame on the teams when qbs fail. Those qbs that failed in Cleveland had no chance to succeed. And the fact that they don't achieve when they leave is arrested development more so than lack of talent. KC is the best situation for a rookie qb since pitt took ben. The chiefs have enough leadership and talent to have a young qb develop.

Yes.

I brought it up in another thread recently. The young Qb's to end up being successful are on good teams with good leadership.

Amazing how these things work out.

Chief Roundup 02-14-2017 07:14 PM

There is a lot to like about the guy but his lack of proper mechanics and horrible foot work is a lot to overcome.

Mr_Tomahawk 02-14-2017 10:24 PM

Damnit.

I have such high hopes he is there at 27.

Why do I do this to myself.


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The Franchise 02-14-2017 10:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr_Tomahawk (Post 12741713)
Damnit.

I have such high hopes he is there at 27.

Why do I do this to myself.


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Dave Lane 02-14-2017 10:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RippedmyFlesh (Post 12740679)
The only comparison to kap that I care about is that he sends alex packing.

Seconded. I might take Cassel for 1 year if I had to to transition to a rook.

chiefscafan 02-15-2017 11:21 AM

From reading the reviews by lance id say more Brett Favre than Cutler. Just know he could frustrate you but wouldn't it be great to have a QB that could take the team on his back and win games. Last time we had that was Green or Montana or Gannon.

Quesadilla Joe 02-17-2017 12:18 PM

Bucky Brooks had some things to say about Mahomes in the Move The Sticks notebook...

Spoiler!
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap300...-browns-titans

staylor26 02-17-2017 03:59 PM

Lol KnowMo is so scared of the possibility that the Chiefs draft a QB this year.

I've never seen him this active on DP.

Quesadilla Joe 02-17-2017 04:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 12745931)
Lol KnowMo is so scared of the possibility that the Chiefs draft a QB this year.

I've never seen him this active on DP.

When you're picking at the bottom of each round every year, the lead up to the draft isn't nearly as interesting. I honestly don't care who KC drafts this year.

staylor26 02-17-2017 04:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Quesadilla Joe (Post 12745945)
When you're picking at the bottom of each round every year the lead up to the draft isn't nearly as interesting. I honestly don't care who KC drafts this year.

Yea we really struggled to find talent at the end of the 1st the past couple of years ROFL

Might be an issue for Elway, but it hasn't been for Dorsey

:)

ToxSocks 02-17-2017 04:36 PM

I'm not sold.

Before i read anything on the guy i watched his highlights to see if my opinion matches what scouts are saying.

My initial reaction was that i've never seen a highlight package so full of throws in which the QB's feet are parallel to the horizontal field markers. He torques his body quite a bit in his throws and that's good, but damn, his footwork is all over the place. It's not something you see in a successful NFL QB.

There were about 2-3 plays in there in which it looked like he immediately panicked after his 1st read wasn't open. He was dancing in a clean pocket. The kind of shit we grill Alex Smith for, only worse. That was what i found to be most alarming about it.

With that said, it WAS a highlight film i was watching. So despite what i just mentioned, he still made big plays.

His mechanics look piss ass imo. Year after year we see QB's with piss ass mechanics fizzle out in the NFL. But maybe you could argue that he has that "IT" factor.

Despite some of the worst mechanics i can remember, the guy made plays.

Quesadilla Joe 02-20-2017 07:29 AM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Pat Mahomes has a unique delivery. Steps in bucket with front foot, cross body throwing motion, no torso movement or weight transfer. <a href="https://t.co/2qbKudoH8Y">pic.twitter.com/2qbKudoH8Y</a></p>&mdash; Daniel Jeremiah (@MoveTheSticks) <a href="https://twitter.com/MoveTheSticks/status/833546870441996288">February 20, 2017</a></blockquote>
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kccrow 02-20-2017 05:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Quesadilla Joe (Post 12749165)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Pat Mahomes has a unique delivery. Steps in bucket with front foot, cross body throwing motion, no torso movement or weight transfer. <a href="https://t.co/2qbKudoH8Y">pic.twitter.com/2qbKudoH8Y</a></p>&mdash; Daniel Jeremiah (@MoveTheSticks) <a href="https://twitter.com/MoveTheSticks/status/833546870441996288">February 20, 2017</a></blockquote>
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Terrible caption. What's dumb**** Jeremiah want him to do there? Open up his rib cage to a huge hit? Plus, most QB's don't torque fully, or even at all, on quick hitters. reeruned ass gif.

I've seen him use core torque plenty when he needs to drive the football or go deep. Hell, all you need to do to see it is watch one of his highlight videos, much less a full game.

The kid needs work on his footwork, but to bring into question everything the kid does is absolutely idiotic. This is a "scout" being about as dumb as one can be.

Quesadilla Joe 02-20-2017 06:10 PM

Someone else had a similar criticism and DJ responded to it...

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/CPBoomer77">@CPBoomer77</a> He does the same thing in a perfect pocket all the time. He is as raw as a 3 dollar steak.</p>&mdash; Daniel Jeremiah (@MoveTheSticks) <a href="https://twitter.com/MoveTheSticks/status/833587893058752512">February 20, 2017</a></blockquote>
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Go Royals 02-20-2017 06:52 PM

Totally agree with Jeremiah. Too raw. Other teams should stay away so he falls to us. :D

Mother****erJones 02-20-2017 08:47 PM

Mahomes has mechanical flaws. But those are correctable. That's why you bring in Romo and draft he or Kizer.

ToxSocks 02-21-2017 03:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mother****erJones (Post 12750116)
Mahomes has mechanical flaws. But those are correctable. That's why you bring in Romo and draft he or Kizer.

I completely disagree. Mechanics seem to be something that's rather instinctual.

Most plays will occur in under 3 seconds. In that time, the QB is reading a defense, reading his receivers and deciding where to go with the ball. When it comes to throwing the ball, he'll revert to his natural instincts.

I can't recall a time when someone has said, "Hey we can fix his mechanics" and have it actually work out.

He's been throwing that way all his life. It's muscle memory at this point.

RunKC 02-21-2017 09:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 12751110)
I completely disagree. Mechanics seem to be something that's rather instinctual.

Most plays will occur in under 3 seconds. In that time, the QB is reading a defense, reading his receivers and deciding where to go with the ball. When it comes to throwing the ball, he'll revert to his natural instincts.

I can't recall a time when someone has said, "Hey we can fix his mechanics" and have it actually work out.

He's been throwing that way all his life. It's muscle memory at this point.

Aaron Rodgers.

BossChief 02-21-2017 09:37 PM

He's gonna throw a lot of picks in the NFL...but he will also make a lot of big plays.

With good coaching limiting the mistakes, the kid could be a serious player.

Quesadilla Joe 02-22-2017 05:40 PM

From DJ's "Ask Five"

Quote:

Executive 2: Texas Tech QB Patrick Mahomes
"He will check every box in Indy. Tech was terrible (in 2016) and he didn't get much attention, but everyone will be talking about him after the combine."

Conclusion: Mahomes definitely has his supporters around the league. He has rare arm talent and his upside is sky high. I'm not as high on him as others, but I recognize his potential.
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap300...513-sf58086513

staylor26 02-23-2017 09:53 AM

Mike Kaye‏ @mike_e_kaye

I feel like Andy Reid probably loves Patrick Mahomes. A lot of young Donovan McNabb to him in my opinion.

This guy is the new beat writer for the Jags. Was in Philly for a while before that.

Tribal Warfare 02-23-2017 11:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 12753370)
Mike Kaye‏ @mike_e_kaye

I feel like Andy Reid probably loves Patrick Mahomes. A lot of young Donovan McNabb to him in my opinion.

This guy is the new beat writer for the Jags. Was in Philly for a while before that.

Reid isn't reluctant pursuing players with raw potential to play QB like Bray/Foles

Sweet Daddy Hate 02-23-2017 08:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 12753370)
Mike Kaye‏ @mike_e_kaye

I feel like Andy Reid probably loves Patrick Mahomes. A lot of young Donovan McNabb to him in my opinion.

This guy is the new beat writer for the Jags. Was in Philly for a while before that.

Great news!

ANYTHING to rid this team of the Journeyman.

chiefscafan 02-25-2017 12:19 PM

Problem is if he does well at combine he won't be there at 27

Mr_Tomahawk 02-27-2017 12:27 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Mayock: The more I watch <a href="https://twitter.com/TexasTechFB">@TexasTechFB</a>&#39;s Patrick Mahomes, the more I&#39;m pushing him toward first round.</p>&mdash; CollegeFootball 24/7 (@NFL_CFB) <a href="https://twitter.com/NFL_CFB/status/836281081900892160">February 27, 2017</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

The Franchise 02-27-2017 12:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr_Tomahawk (Post 12758986)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Mayock: The more I watch <a href="https://twitter.com/TexasTechFB">@TexasTechFB</a>&#39;s Patrick Mahomes, the more I&#39;m pushing him toward first round.</p>&mdash; CollegeFootball 24/7 (@NFL_CFB) <a href="https://twitter.com/NFL_CFB/status/836281081900892160">February 27, 2017</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

We're going to have to trade up to get him.

Buehler445 02-27-2017 04:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 12758996)
We're going to have to trade up to get him.

Yeah. I figured that a month ago.

Sweet Daddy Hate 02-27-2017 04:15 PM

Chiefs ain't drafting shit. More Broke-dick and Bray.

Same as it ever was...

Quesadilla Joe 02-28-2017 06:39 AM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">A well respected QB coach for decades in the NFL told me Mahomes has the best arm talent since Brett Favre. Raw &amp; not ready but worth it!</p>&mdash; Pat Kirwan (@PatKirwanRFN) <a href="https://twitter.com/PatKirwanRFN/status/836551886211792896">February 28, 2017</a></blockquote>
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Mr_Tomahawk 02-28-2017 08:05 PM

Yesssssss please!


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ILChief 02-28-2017 10:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 12758996)
We're going to have to trade up to get him.

Which means we aren't getting him

Quesadilla Joe 03-01-2017 10:16 AM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">It&#39;s combine week. As draft evaluators look at Patrick Mahomes, the Texas Tech QB has a message for the NFL.<a href="https://t.co/eedMhEVBpL">https://t.co/eedMhEVBpL</a> <a href="https://t.co/IqFx1zgJpI">pic.twitter.com/IqFx1zgJpI</a></p>&mdash; The MMQB (@theMMQB) <a href="https://twitter.com/theMMQB/status/836973969106432002">March 1, 2017</a></blockquote>
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The Franchise 03-01-2017 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Quesadilla Joe (Post 12763060)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">It&#39;s combine week. As draft evaluators take a closer look at Patrick Mahomes, the Texas Tech QB has a message for the NFL. <a href="https://t.co/L0kOuBA25I">pic.twitter.com/L0kOuBA25I</a></p>&mdash; The MMQB (@theMMQB) <a href="https://twitter.com/theMMQB/status/836973077711970304">March 1, 2017</a></blockquote>
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Quesadilla Joe 03-01-2017 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 12763072)
Link doesn't work.

Yeah, I guess they deleted the original tweet. Here is the updated one.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">It&#39;s combine week. As draft evaluators look at Patrick Mahomes, the Texas Tech QB has a message for the NFL.<a href="https://t.co/eedMhEVBpL">https://t.co/eedMhEVBpL</a> <a href="https://t.co/IqFx1zgJpI">pic.twitter.com/IqFx1zgJpI</a></p>&mdash; The MMQB (@theMMQB) <a href="https://twitter.com/theMMQB/status/836973969106432002">March 1, 2017</a></blockquote>
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KChiefs1 03-01-2017 12:58 PM

My #1 QB that I want.


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Rooster 03-01-2017 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Dagnabit (Post 12759441)
Chiefs ain't drafting shit. More Broke-dick and Bray.

Same as it ever was...

This is the year. I just know it.

raybec 4 03-01-2017 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Rooster (Post 12763415)
This is the year. I just know it.

I hope so, it would be fan****ingtastic to not be the only franchise who hasn't drafted a QB who's even won one goddamned game since 1983

Sweet Daddy Hate 03-01-2017 08:18 PM

Too "arrogant" for KC/Lil' Chiefy Dumbshit Smith-Lover.

Sandy Vagina 03-02-2017 11:45 AM

measurements coming in...

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DeShone Kizer 6042 233 9 7/8 hand

Mitch Trubisky 6021 222 9 4/8 hand

Deshaun Watson 6024 221 9 6/8 hand

Pat Mahomes 6020 225 9 2/8 hand
smaller than Smiff's hands, lol...

Sweet Daddy Hate 03-02-2017 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Sandy Cheeks (Post 12764790)
measurements coming in...



smaller than Smiff's hands, lol...

His balls are bigger.

Much bigger.

Chief Northman 03-02-2017 07:41 PM

Trump has bigger hands.

Urc Burry 03-02-2017 07:58 PM

Wow. Never really looked up his size or anything, but I assumed he was around 6'4. At least this won't improve his stock

RippedmyFlesh 03-02-2017 08:43 PM

Prescott 6 2 226
Mahomes 6 2 225
Id say he's right size.
Please for the love of god draft this kid he is within reach with some moving up.

Urc Burry 03-02-2017 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by RippedmyFlesh (Post 12765863)
Prescott 6 2 226
Mahomes 6 2 225
Id say he's right size.

Dak hand size 10 7/8
Mahomes 9 2/8

Not a deal breaker for me. But teams take that into account

Mr_Tomahawk 03-02-2017 09:28 PM

Not worried about hand size.

The guy can spin it.



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RippedmyFlesh 03-02-2017 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Urc Burry (Post 12765880)
Dak hand size 10 7/8
Mahomes 9 2/8

Not a deal breaker for me. But teams take that into account

Was he fumble prone in college? Not being a smart ass just asking. I guess that would be my only concern.

Urc Burry 03-02-2017 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by RippedmyFlesh (Post 12765980)
Was he fumble prone in college? Not being a smart ass just asking. I guess that would be my only concern.

I don't think it was ever a big problem. I'm not trying to make it sound like it's a red flag for me. I just know Alex Smith has "small" hands at 9 3/8.

Pat Kirwan
A well respected QB coach for decades in the NFL told me Mahomes has the best arm talent since Brett Favre. Raw & not ready but worth it!

I'm all in on him if we have a chance

RippedmyFlesh 03-02-2017 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Urc Burry (Post 12766010)
I don't think it was ever a big problem. I'm not trying to make it sound like it's a red flag for me. I just know Alex Smith has "small" hands at 9 3/8.

Pat Kirwan
A well respected QB coach for decades in the NFL told me Mahomes has the best arm talent since Brett Favre. Raw & not ready but worth it!

I'm all in on him if we have a chance

Me too thanks. He has size arm and attitude. Enough for me.

KChiefs1 03-03-2017 12:54 PM

Does he drink a glass of water with both hands?


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JimBaker48.8 03-04-2017 10:36 PM

At the Combine today Mayoc showed some tape on Mahomes where he made a side-arm, off balance throw to a receiiver in the EZ about 35 - 40 yards down the field where he hit his receiver in the hands right over a defenders out stretched hands, and Mahomes made the play on the run.
I gotta admit he's an incredible talent but a HC would have to have a lot of
latitude to turn a guy like that lose on the field to do his thing.
Could Reid be that kind of coach ?

Quesadilla Joe 03-07-2017 07:41 AM

I don't have ESPN Insider, but before the article got cut off Kiper mentioned that Mahomes could be available in the 2nd or 3rd round...

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Patrick Mahomes II, QB, Texas Tech

Mahomes, who measured in at 6-foot-2, 225 pounds, put on an impressive display in the on-field workouts, showing that he can make all of the throws. He also put up the best 20-yard shuttle (4.08 seconds) time and third-best three-cone drill (6.88) time and had a solid 40-yard dash (4.8). The former Red Raider signal-caller is more of a thrower than a pitcher who can pick his spots at this point, but his arm talent is undeniable. He's extremely raw -- his footwork and mechanics on tape are maddeningly inconsistent -- and the air raid system in which he played will likely cause some hesitation among teams. From all I've heard, however, Mahomes is a sponge who wants to learn and develop, and he'll work hard to learn the playbook when he's drafted. I think Mahomes is entrenched as the fourth quarterback in this draft -- behind Mitch Trubisky, Deshaun Watson and DeShone Kizer -- and he's in the mix to be picked in the second or third round.
http://www.espn.com/nfl/draft2017/in...aft-2017-stock

Sweet Daddy Hate 03-07-2017 05:19 PM

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The Pick: QB Patrick Mahomes, Texas Tech
Draft a developmental quarterback for the inevitable decline of Alex Smith or plug holes and try to load up for one more Super Bowl run?
Those are the options facing the Chiefs with pick No. 27 overall. With no viable long-term option on the roster behind Smith—unless the team keeps Nick Foles in a restructured deal—it makes sense to grab a talented quarterback if one happens to be available and then focus on team-building in Rounds 2-7.
Patrick Mahomes has unreal tools, but needs his mechanics re-worked and time to acclimate to a pro offense before he's thrown to the wolves of an NFL defense. Andy Reid would be the ideal QB mentor for Mahomes to learn under, which might make this match too good to be true.
Where there's smoke...


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