Why is Houston in coverage?
 

2 significant plays on 3rd down and Houston is in coverage, not rushing the passer?


ARE YOU ****ING KIDDING ME, SUTTON?!?!?!?!?

Because Sutton ****ing sucks and we should have given Wade a blank check to come here. But we love the bend but don't break shit mixed with a offense that can't produce points. Bad ****ing combo!

Not only was he in coverage, he was in man coverage against Antonio Brown.

Anyway, the Chiefs will continue to do this year in and year out until Andy Reid is gone. I don't care how many regular season games he wins, he just can't get it done.

18 points. Defense did their job. It sucks that we lost on that play but blaming Sutton and the defense is just reeruned.
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Yeah! And if our next coach doesn't win a super bowl his first 4 years, fire him too!!
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Justin Houston on Antonio Brown is only an advantage to the Chiefs if Brown is blocking Houston.


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Bob Sutton wasn't coordinating an offense that only had 230 total yards against a Pittsburgh defense starting 3 rookies.

He wasn't generating a pass rush. What does it matter.

No they didn't. They allowed the Steelers to hold the ball and score on almost every single one of their drives.

They force 1 punt all game and couldn't force the Steelers to punt in the end.

Don't get me wrong the offense blows but if the defense could produce a couple 3 and outs the offense would have more opportunity to screw up more or get into some kind of Rhythm. Lol . How many times did the Steelers punt? Once. Very Greg Robinson like.

I am not bagging on the defense that forced only 1 punt. I am bagging on our DC who thought it was a good idea to have our best pass rusher covering the best WR in football on key 3rd downs instead of rushing the QB?

Are you ****ing serious? Your hate for Sutton is maddening. Defense didn't lose us this game today. They played overall excellent against an outstanding offense

Exactly
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Yeah, that was straight up reeruned when I saw Houston covering Brown 1 on 1.

If we're talking the last play of the game, keep in mind that was not an obvious passing situation

Yeah, they sure did a great job allowing Bell to run for 170 yards and only forcing 1 punt all night long. What a fantastic defense.

Games are won and lost on points scored vs points allowed last time I checked. Steelers scored 18 points. That's more than enough for us to win.
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Don't kid yourself, 16 points wasn't good enough. But you could look at a game like today and separate Von Miller and Houston.

Heck, even James Harrison, he's 195 years old, he made things happen out there. Their star players made plays and ours didn't. You could sit here for 2 hours listing off star defensive players who made impact plays in the playoffs to help their team win.

Frank Zombo made the biggest play on defense tonight.

If our pass rush could get anywhere near Ben on that last play he doesn't have time to wait for Brown to get open.

Givng up a score on every drive, allowing them to win TOP and forcing one ****ing punt is Excellent? Are you and Sutton ****ing?

No it wasn't, not tonight.

They essentially allowed Pitt to play keep away all night long until the time ran out.

Yeah, the offense did shit but the loss wasn't all on them. Defense only forced 1 punt all night long and couldn't get off the field if their lives depended on it.

We weren't putting any pressure on Ben, except that one time we did.

On the last play of the game in a win-or-go-home situation, you send your $20m per year pass rusher after the QB.

I honestly can't believe Sutton would even consider dropping Houston back in coverage on such an occasion. I also can't believe he lined Houston up in man coverage on Antonio Brown on a critical 3rd down early in the game either. Just inexcusable.

Precisely. This is what puts Miller ahead of Houston. Availability and the fact that he actually shows up in the games that matter. Houston was a ghost tonight, as effect in coverage as he was pass rushing.

Defense was ok I guess as far as points allowed but other than Zombo's tip, I can't think of any memorable play. We all know that if this team doesn't score on D or special teams, it can't beat a playoff team

Even if you don't rush Houston, you don't put him in coverage in a zone on the biggest play of the season. Boom, he ends up responsible for brown.

It was a very Chiefs game.

WR's dropping passes.

Wide open WR's deep and Alex not ever noticing.

Penalties marching us backward and forcing long 3rd down conversions.

These problems have happened all season long, continued tonight, and are exactly why we lost...

TOP is decided by offensive and defensive efforts combined.

The offense went three and out like 5-6 times straight at one point in time.

Blame for this loss: 94% offense, 4% special teams (specifically return units), 2% defense.

They can do whatever they want and it wouldn't have mattered if we scored points too. It's easy to play keep away when our offense punted and committed turnovers on basically every drive.
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ONE ****ING PUNT!!!!!





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Fire Sutton!

I agree with almost all of this.

Pitt was smart in negating Hill's ST's touches. It's on Andy to make up for that with the offense.

The offense was open and attacking the 1st drive and then went tight-butthole. In the second half when we opened it back up dropped passes, penalties, and missed opportunities by Alex killed us.

The defense held the most dangerous offense in the league to kicking FG's. 18 pts. That's a win. A HUGE win.

This is not on the D...

Don't forget the shit sideways plays that only work once or twice all season long but keep getting called because Reid thinks that they're the same as running plays.

Offense had 3 3 and outs in the game.

Defense only forced 1 punt the entire game and allowed Pitt to score on all but 2 of their possessions prior to them running the clock out.

To say that defense only deserves 2% of the blame is asinine.

I was nervous as shit about the defense going into the game, not the offense. The defense is was playing Ramik Wilson, Jenkins, and Reyes for **** sake. Against an OL that has been outrageously good this year. Against a RB who's been popping 100+ yard games like it's clockwork.

They gave up 16 points against an outstanding Steelers offense. So you'd prefer if they gave up 30 points but forced 2 or 3 more punts?

They played a much better game than expected. Your hate for Sutton is so confusing.

I don't care what the defense did, etc. You don't have your best pass rusher covering the best NFL WR period. On any down. Let alone key 3rd downs. It's just plain ****ing stupid.

so Houston. yeah.. will he ever be good again?

asking for a friend.

The defense played much better in the 2nd half. They were pretty rough in the first half though. 275 yards is terrible, any way you cut it.

A forgotten disadvantage to not getting Pittsburgh's offense off the field is they didn't have to punt to Hill.

The one time they did, we had our best field position of the night. Helped neutralize our best weapon.

I agree with the OP. Also, on the big play to Bryant in the beginning of the game, was that a mistake, or was it designed for Houston to cover Bryant one on one?

Wonder what your explanation will be when they punish Brady next week

No idea what Sutton is thinking on those, honestly. It's reeruned.

When the clock is being drained down (Pitt had the ball 35 minutes) and your defense gives up 6 scores, how is that good defense? Red zone defense is just one aspect of the game. But the fact that they allowed 170 yards on the ground to one player is a joke. No team is going to win the Lombardi with that kind of defense.

Honestly, I would had gone all out blitz, leaving man to man coverage on everyone. If I'm down, 3rd and 5, I'd rather go down fighting than being passive.

Hah. This is funny.

5 plays. 16 yards. Punt.

3 plays. 10 yards. Interception.

3 plays. 3 yards. Punt.

3 plays. 22 yards. Fumble.

3 plays. -1 yard. Punt.

Those drives were sequential. And the drive after that -1 yard leading to a punt also led to a punt after 7 plays and 29 yards.

To say this offense blew dicks would be a supreme understatement.

Seriously.

The chiefs didn't lose because of time of possession.
16 points was not a big hurdle at all
Allowing 170 yards on the ground to the best RB in the league when you're down almost your entire DL and LB is not something to be ashamed of

I am more pissed at our offense, who had a fully stacked deck completely shitting the bed tonight in all aspects of the game. I'm not going to get hung up on a defense that played gritty with what half a deck against an outstanding offense.

berry had a great hiy in on bell in the third

peters endzone
other than that nada

It wasn't 3rd and 5. It was 3rd and 3. It wasn't an obvious passing situation. I was a hell of a lot more worried about Leveon Bell than I was Ben. They neutralized Ben most of the game. Of all the plays in the game to be pissed about, this is so far down my list.

In all, the defense did their jobs.

The offense on the other hand....

Yeah, that's a problem.

But when it comes to that situation, I'd rather go out fighting than having my best OLB rusher playing zone.

Not blaming Sutton, just questionable calls. But offense had way more problems/questionable calls.

First one was 5 plays. the 3rd one was right before the half with 55 seconds left and they were essentially running the time out and had gotten one first down on that play.

Again, that's 3 3-outs. At least make your statements accurate if you're trying to make a point.

Trying to run the clock out with three straight passes? Ok then..

It was four three-play drives and two others that went for five and seven and couldn't even eclipse 30 ****ing yards. Who gives a shit? The offense sucked dick.

Anyone actually complaining about the defensive performance tonight....

Keep in mind that we lost:
Allen Bailey
Jaye Howard
Derrick Johnson
Josh Mauga
Justin March-Lillard

This defense was not supposed to be good after they lost Derrick Johnson. This was a much better performance than I'm sure many were expecting out of the defense.

I'm not saying that they didn't. Just saying that it's laughable that people are giving the defense a pass in this game when they only forced Pitt to punt one time and gave up a score on virtually every single possession.

I couldn't believe that last 3rd down. We sent 4 guys (and not Houston) on a play where they damn well might have run the ball, and maybe should have run the ball. He had all day. Hell if they ran the ball there they almost certainly would've gotten the first down too.

3rd and 3, fair enough. Still, I would had gone out, one way or another.

The big play by Brown was a good call and not Houston/Sutton's fault.

We blitzed and got to Ben but didn't bring him down.

At most Houston should have been on Brown for 10-15 yards.

We hit Ben and just didn't bring him down...

Overall they played well. However both our offense and defense both failed in key situations. Even with all our fails today it still came down to a holding call which is the saddest part about this. And now, the year is over

Because "rigged". LMAO

Because the end result is generally all that's important. 18 points allowed. 18 points allowed to an offense that probably averages 28 or so.

That should win you a home game 100% of the time.

Like the offense can only shoulder a small portion of the blame for the loss in Indy, the same can be said of the defense here.

So you're conceding that this team doesn't have the defense required to win a championship. Even if we tonight, we lose in Foxboro or the SB.

The defense didn't play gritty, they played with their heads in their asses and got bullied all night long. Forcing 1 punt to 6 scores is not a victory, it's god damn embarrassing.

Points matter - not yards.

The Cowboys can't expect to win with their shit-tastic D allowing 34 pts.

The Chiefs can't expect to win only scoring 13 pts at home...

This. We're wasting so much money on players like Houston, Maclin, and Smith who are paid to be playmakers but are incapable of making plays when it matters.

you are right but wrong at the same time.

kelce's drop and penalty ****ing hurt.

obviously the fisher slip-holding hurt the most tho

Fact check. Steelers are one of the worst road offenses in the league compared to their home performances.

Your football takes are shit like RunKc's

u say wasting, and in grand scheme, sure.. but wins make money. Two of these guys have earned their money, in this aspect. One other? hell but naw

Pretty much this. Houston had a couple stops in the running game but the dude was paid to rush the passer. Houston and Ford both were invisible. And Houston has had enough time to heal. He didn't do shit.

I personally think after all of this knee issues, Houston is mailing it in. He got paid he doesn't give a shit. We needed him to be the Houston in the first matchup vs Denver. Everyone knew that, he knew that.

he was nowhere to be found in the backfield. Got stonewalled all game. Ford too.

Houston made a great play

But yeah wtf

Don't really care, honestly. Wouldn't give a shit if they averaged 0 points per game.

18 points allowed at home should win you the game every ****ing time. Every time.

Fact Check - how many points did Pitt score the last time we played them?

Chiefs average 23 points PPG at home and they scored 16 today. What is your point?

We got ****ed in run defense and allowed Pitt to control 35 minutes of the game.

My point just like I've said earlier is this defense doesn't have what it takes to win 3 games in the playoffs. Most SB winning teams do it with good defensive play. Giving up 170 yards to one player is NOT good defensive play.

Did you not see Houston screaming at Kelce on the sidelines? There is no hint whatsoever that Houston is mailing it in. He works his ass off on and off the field, and this is well known.

He got stonewalled because Pittsburgh has arguably on of the best OLs in the game and a frustratingly good RB. It doesn't help that with a beyond shitty LB corps he has to basically cover way more of the underneath than Sutton probably wants.

This was always set up to be a frustrating game for our pass rushers. Houston may not have had a great game. But he didn't have a bad one just because he didn't get to the QB.

I'm wondering if Houston has another surgery this offseason? Kinda like Charles. He ain't right.

He had no strength this game.

He was mostly a decoy...

Tiger is a moron of the highest level and nothing about his post was right.

Steelers scored 24, 27, 28 and 24 points in the last 4 road games before tonight

Not if our offense shits the bed and scores less than 20.

Or less than 15...

Given how our defense has played of late, I'm amazed we didn't give up 30. I was expecting that the Chiefs would need to win in a shootout.

You are the same piece of shit that argues for Alex Smiths WIN/LOSS record.

Just stab yourself, you are wasting our oxygen.

You're wasting your time trying to explain to members of this board. As far as most are concerned, an OLB's success can be determined solely on sack totals in the box score. Similarly, DBs are judged solely based on INTs.

If the other 10 guys, specifically the other members of the front 7, had done their jobs, I'd be willing to bet Houston would have been able to make more of an impact.

How much could anyone expect of a pass rusher in a game in which the opponent averaged probably 6 YPC? They were consistently facing 3rd and shorts all game long and at that point the threat of a 3rd down run prevented us from pinning our ears back.