It's time to move on from Alex Smith.
 

He wasn't even the main reason we lost. We're just never gonna win a Super Bowl with him. It's time.

The two best QBs in the AFC are left to play for the right to play in the Super Bowl. Not shocking.

Every team that has won their playoff matchup has had the better QB. Unless you have an elite defense the better QB is more often than not gonna win the matchup. It's not rocket science.

Time to draft one high. Finally.

Damn straight.

Smith was not the reason we lost. Dude missed a pass to Maclin and that was about it. I don't care who the QB is, when you call plays like we do and you can't block, can't rush the QB and can't catch the ****ing ball..Smith is hardly the problem

We haven't even drafted his replacement yet.. He's playing the 2017 season barring injury with his expected cap hit

Why, you think he should throw it to Tyreek sprinting wide open?

I kinda agree after this one. Game was planned short around his abilities, against a shitty Steeler secondary. Need to do better Reid.....Dorsey!

He missed two wide open TDs to Tyreek.
But he would have had to throw it more than 10 yards so...

of course when we got our first overall it was right after luck and newton. typical chiefs.

if you look at the chiefs history, we are historically a thin team at the qb position. and a team that doesnt win in the playoffs. that correlation is obvious. i like alex smith quite a bit, but were not the 85 bears. even if we were, the way the game is played today, i dont see it working more often than not.

draft qbs every draft. next time there is a legit looking star qb, take the hit and be a bad teamfor one year so you can be good for 15.

with our lick well get ryan leaf tho so it wont even matter

He missed hill on that play and on two point conversion. Draft a replacement, Alex is to complacent. If they run a different offense...

No, he didn't. He had no chance to make those throws.

Pitt secondary and defense has been solid this half of the season.. Don't kid yourself

Christ. Smith wasn't the reason we lost today. Yes, he missed a wide open Hill. Of course, Harrison was all over his ass that play.... a guy Eric Fisher was guarding. He also made some great throws today that were flat out dropped. The reason we lost is because Fisher is not worthy of a starting position let alone his contract.

Not once, but twice.

At the end of the day, scoring 16 points in a playoff game is not acceptable.

Need to start drafting QB's.

As much as I ****ing hate horse-face, I give him credit....he does not put up with shit like this. Tebow wasn't getting it done, he flushed him....John Fox wins four straight division titles but sucks in the post season...flush him.

The entire offense was shit. Including the QB. No sugar coating this.

How about our run game this season after coming off a strong 2015 season....

Also missed Reek beating his man by 7 yards for another TD.

Alexuses.

The Chiefs just lost a playoff game where they scored 2 touchdowns and their opponent scored 0. If we had even an average offense we win this game going away. Don't wanna hear about the defense. They did their job.

definitely shouldnt be overlooked.

our offensive line is shit. put bell behind this line and he averages 75yds a game if hes lucky.

ware is a solid back, but id definitely look at drafting one higher up if theres no qb available.

We lost because Smith is not an NFL darling. They want Brady and Ben so they call holding when we tie the game. Plain and simple.

There were far more reasons why the Chiefs lost tonight than Alex Smith.

Doesn't help that Fisher was getting beat all night by Grandpa Harrison

hate makes for blind crybabies and stupid posters.

Its so easy to say he should have hit Hill sprinting open but then if you want to be accurate you'd have to watch the whole play from above so you could see the progression and the protection.

Alex didn't have all dam day like Ben had. He had maybe two reads per pass attempt and then he was either hit or running.

Stupid ass bitch's in here crying all the time makes me sick

Smith wasn't the reason we lost, but didn't do enough to win. Same story as always. He should be our QB in 2017, but you have to plan for the next year. He shouldn't be extended.

And more than once I counted 5 times I saw him with at least 3 steps on a defender and no throw.

well put. he's not bad enough to lose games but he really isnt good enough to will us to wins either. hell show flashes of both good and bad bit in the end hes just ok.

cant win with a qb like that in this league. just cant.

Uh, no. You do realize that Pitt had one of the top defenses in the league in the second half of the season right? They also had 38 sacks on the season and finished top 10 in scoring defense, etc. It's not a cakewalk against the Steelers.

Again, you are the same stupid moron who only shows up when this team loses. Your take on football is practically shit.

Since Marty took over in 1989 quarterbacks we have faced in the playoffs...

Won
Todd Marinovich
Neil O'Donnell
Warren Moon
Brian Hoyer

Losses
Dan Marino
Jim Kelly
Stan Humphries
Jim Kelly
Dan Marino
Jim Harbaugh
John Elway
Peyton Manning
Peyton Manning
Joe Flacco
Andrew Luck
Tom Brady
Ben Roethlisberger

Anybody seeing a trend.....

Fact

Right, with a safety on top and a pass rusher bearing down on Smith. That would have gone well right? Just chuck it up into double coverage while getting hit.

The one play you could make an argument for was the one where they highlighted Hill specifically, but even on that play Smith was already rolling right early due to pressure well before Hill broke open.

He played good enough to convince 90% of fans that he's not a problem.

Just like he always ****ing does.

hes not the problem but he certainly isnt the solution

complete neutrality

The only ones who think that he's actually the problem are the same idiots who wanted Geno Smith at #1 overall. ROFL

I would agree with this. He is A problem...not THE problem. And he has now proven that he is not the answer.

The frustrating thing is that it is easy to see how we COULD have won this game. That's why I don't think you just bail in the guy unless you know what you are doing next. We have no heir apparent so need to draft someone else. We are right there with all of the other also-rans with no QB.

Of course it's time to move on from Alex Smith. Just like it was last year, and the year before, and the year before, and when Dorsey got off the phone with San Francisco and was mulling the initial trade offer.

NO TRENDS TO BE SEEN HERE!

Yeah, they sure looked like a top defense getting carved up at home by Pro Bowl, established franchise QB Matt Moore last week.

People act like it's 90% Alex's fault - it's not.

The play calling is more than 50% of the problem. You don't throw none-yard-passes for most of 3 quarters and then suddenly become the greatest show on turf in the 4th.

You just don't.

And we all seem to be forgetting that not a single bit of this matters of Fish doesn't hold on the single most important play of the game...

Alex wassnt the reason we lost. But he had chance after chance to win the game for us, and he didnt.

Quality post, rep.

I don't see how anyone who has football acumen after watching some of the quality qb play seen this postseason, thinks Alex Smith is in the same level as other super bow contenders. He just doesn't have it, no matter how much this game wasn't his fault.

What does that have to do with the price of tea in China?

We're not winning shit with Alex smith at QB. Sure we wont ditch him, but don't expect miracles with him.

The sad part is, some of the Superbowl contenders dont have near the all around team that we do.

He was part of it.

The same weaknesses we saw all year we saw today...

None of them do.

NONE OF THEM DO...

Damn straight Duncan

It's chicken and egg, right?

Does Andy Reid not call plays with downfield patterns because he knows Alex Smith won't throw them?

Or does Alex just never give those deep plays time to develop and actually try to make the throw?

I think Andy and Alex bring out the worst in each other. At least in years past, we heard Andy talk about coaching Alex to throw deep more often. Don't remember hearing that this year.

Pittsburgh's defense let a journeyman backup QB roll up 289 yards on an 80% completion percentage last week - compared to the paltry 172 yards on 58.8% that Smiff managed this week against the same defense.

Yeah. Time to move on.

Geno Smith is a ****ing variable dumbshit.

Once you know your QB isn't the answer, you MOVE ON and draft one.

Or are you the asshole that was last to donate to the Save Our Chiefs campaign? Suck shit bitch.

That or give him a real running game. Not the smoke and mirrors BS running attack.
Im still for drafting and developing a QB but thats probably not going to happen.

Exactly.

When you look at Reid/Alex their strengths are magnified together and their weaknesses compound.

When asked to throw deep Alex was accurate, threw with velocity, and made good decisions.

Why was he only asked to throw deep late?

Why did he only look deep late?

Design of the play?
Tight butthole syndrome?

Chicken or egg...

so move on... do it... may as well.. this team needs Aaron Rodgers to succeed.

so move on.

I want Tigger Unclechug and Sandy Semenswallow to take their Alex Smith blow-up doll down to the Dixie Bell gay bar and put on a floor show for the clientele whereby they take turns cramming Alex's plastic cock up their asses while toasting each other on "another winning season"!
:)

You contribute nothing to this forum. GTFO and take your sell conceived wittiness with you.

Eat shit, ****bag. Tell me more about winning seasons and game managers!

Go fist yourself none too gently.

Pretty much, now lets try and find him. He could be sitting somewhere around 24 in the draft.

yep. why not? least he will be cheap fodder to get this roster/HC to a 4 - 7 win team for 2017. Houston and Hali are done. Poe, gone... maybe Berry too. OL is regressing. JMac will mail it in. So... sure.. wtf.

game over. REBUILD

seriously, Brady is going to drop 300 yards on that Steelers secondary like it is easy.

It would be nice to draft a QB.

Will never ever happen, too scary, too risky, need more big fat linemen.

By my count we left three TDs on the field tonight, at minimum, due to shitty passes or shit field awareness by the QB.

Reid has warts but these guys are open deep.

Hate to say it but I agree. No one wants to take the risk in case it doesnt work out. People say Clark has no say in it but i think hed rather stick with the Peterson model for success. From strictly a business perspective its tried and true, it works. It keeps the seats filled.

I suppose I'm stupid for never having understood this "risk".

So you don't use your best draft pick on the most important position in sports... you use that on a lesser position of importance. THEN, you go out and trade multiple picks for a QB that another team doesn't want...

So where is this risk?

Are we strictly speaking of the new regimes decisions at QB? Because they could have literally put a corpse under center and it would have filled the seats just because Pioli was fired.

No risk.

**** Alex.

I agree with the OP. He doesn't make plays to help them win games. He just stays out of the way. That doesn't work in 2017 unless you have a generational defense. It isn't the Chiefs only problem by a long shot but QB is their biggest one in terms of what separates them from postseason success.

Alex as a FA is less risk than a rookie, even a top rookie. You can plug Alex or comparable FA in and with enough talent your likely a .500 team instantly. You probably wont have a high ceiling, but you have a high floor compared to an unproven rookie who could end up being a complete bust at the NFL level or even if he does turn into a franchise QB there could still be growing pains the first few years and the yearly record could suffer and with that fan attendance.

Im NOT for this approach to the QB position. Id rather draft and develop a top prospect. I feel thats the best approach.

Brett Favre and Steve Young ran versions of this offense.

Don't tell me you CAN'T throw downfield...

Problem is though, We wont draft a Quarterback high. We just wont do it. If we do, thatd be awesome, I just honestly dont see it happening while we have alex smith at this time in his career.

I honestly think that reid and dorsey know they need a better QB in the future, but I dont think, that they think, they need one right now. For example I think they will be drafting one high in about 3-4 years. But as of right now, I think they see a window with Alex even though most of us see that window being AT BEST an AFC champ apperance and nothing more.

That's a great year 1 strategy.

You take that and build under him.

We're not building under him...

Almost close. Alex smith stays out of the way until the 4th, like he did today. He couldve went out there and kept slinging it. Instead he waits, and hopes Ben has a turnover, or he hopes and waits the defense does something great, or special teams, so that he doesnt have to be the "problem".. By the time he decided it was time to play, we only had one chance, and it was ruined by a hold....

Semen could have done what Alex did this year for a fraction of the price.

Maybe if our receivers could catch a damn ball, we wouldn't be having this conversation, and everyone would be saying how Alex thrashed the shit out of the Steelers. Did you guys not see all of the ****ing drops tonight?

You can't have it both ways.

There were 2 or 3 drops.

Besides, every team has receivers that drop the ball.

We need a qb that can offset his teammates' mistakes. Alex just isn't capable.

It's irritating as shit. Now I'll credit him for being pretty good at it. Arguably, he should have tied the game up today. But it's amazing how incapable the guy is playing with urgency. When we go up 20 points, he turns into a turnover machine. When we're down or the game is close, he refuses to put the ball away.

Why can't he ever be the guy who goes up by 20 points for 4 quarters? Frustrating as shit.

And maybe if Steelers receivers could catch a damn ball they may have scored a TD. Remember the pass that went through the hands of the Steelers receiver that would have been a 1st and goal on their last(?) FG drive?

Everyone has drops.

We have most of the offensive pieces to be competitive (fix the damn run game!) going forward. To win the SB, you need an elite defense. Time to draft ILB, safety (Parker is aging, Berry may ask too much for being a streaky player), and a pass rusher to compete with Ford.

Marcus, Nelson and Mitchell are doing a great job at corner.

For reals.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Alex Smith final numbers<br>No Pressure: 20 for 27, 172 yards, 1 TD, 102.7 passer rating<br>Prssure: 0 for 7, 1 INT, 1 Sack, 0.0 passer rating</p>&mdash; Nathan Jahnke (@PFF_NateJahnke) <a href="https://twitter.com/PFF_NateJahnke/status/820847854285717504">January 16, 2017</a></blockquote>
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