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TigeRRUppeRRcut 01-16-2017 01:25 AM

Dropped Passes - tied for 2nd worst in NFL
 
https://www.sportingcharts.com/nfl/s...rcentage/2016/

Dropped 4.9% of passes this year compared to 3.5% last year. Harris better fix his shit in the offseason. Maclin had some uncharacteristic ones. DAT/Ware/West were pretty sloppy this season too. Conley had a couple but improved down the stretch.


At least 5 dropped passes in the loss to Pitt.


Total dropped passes: 26 in regular season
http://stats.washingtonpost.com/fb/t...type=Receiving

Rausch 01-16-2017 01:26 AM

Maclin never gets the ball thrown his way so I can understand that...

New World Order 01-16-2017 01:27 AM

Oakland has more dropped passes and they have an elite offense.

TribalElder 01-16-2017 01:27 AM

Kelce could have used some stick em

jd1020 01-16-2017 01:28 AM

Is there a stat that tracks all the missed wide open receivers for a TD we can compare it to?

TigeRRUppeRRcut 01-16-2017 01:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 12690267)
Is there a stat that tracks all the missed wide open receivers for a TD we can compare it to?

Because no QB ever misses open players... You stupid ****.

Hammock Parties 01-16-2017 01:30 AM

Maybe if Andy Reid can get in a time machine and bring back Randy Moss, Cris Carter, Tony Gonzalez and Marvin Harrison in their primes, we can improve to average on offense?

carcosa 01-16-2017 01:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TigerUppercut (Post 12690268)
Because no QB ever misses open players... You stupid ****.

Well that's just not true. Alex does all the time!

Kaepernick 01-16-2017 01:50 AM

Is it possible that Alex just doesn't throw a very catchable pass? I know this is not easy to gauge and I've never seen any kind of ranking among active QBs who throws a more catchable pass and who throws a less catchable pass, but the concept is not completely foreign.

For example, in the article below, Sam Wyche talks about Joe Montana throwing a particularly catchable pass.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sam Wyche

Number one he had a very catchable pass-the ball traveled with the nose up, and it just arrived at the receiver. He rarely had balls dropped because it came in so soft, not hard like most guys. The flight of the ball, with the nose up, gave it that cushion when it arrived.



http://www.sportsdouchebags.com/2013...end-sam-wyche/

jjchieffan 01-16-2017 02:07 AM

I know that dropped passes killed us in this game. Ugh! They probably dropped 100yards worth of passes. Just unacceptable. Maybe they should start using Haley's port a potty technique in practice, or something. These guys, especially the guy that is supposed to be the best TE in the league, have got to catch those passes.

JCharles1981 01-16-2017 02:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TigerUppercut (Post 12690260)
https://www.sportingcharts.com/nfl/s...rcentage/2016/

Dropped 4.9% of passes this year compared to 3.5% last year. Harris better fix his shit in the offseason. Maclin had some uncharacteristic ones. DAT/Ware/West were pretty sloppy this season too. Conley had a couple but improved down the stretch.


At least 5 dropped passes in the loss to Pitt.


Total dropped passes: 26 in regular season
http://stats.washingtonpost.com/fb/t...type=Receiving

DAT and West didn't even get thrown to that much throughout the season, so they don't count.

Rasputin 01-16-2017 02:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kaepernick (Post 12690307)
Is it possible that Alex just doesn't throw a very catchable pass? I know this is not easy to gauge and I've never seen any kind of ranking among active QBs who throws a more catchable pass and who throws a less catchable pass, but the concept is not completely foreign.

For example, in the article below, Sam Wyche talks about Joe Montana throwing a particularly catchable pass.





http://www.sportsdouchebags.com/2013...end-sam-wyche/


Yes this is a very plausible theory just like the Kelce drop that was down at his knees. Would a better throw have made it a more manageable catch I think so but still no excuse for him dropping it. It was catchable.

lcarus 01-16-2017 02:13 AM

I don't know but I saw quite a few passes this season that couldn't have been more "catchable". The guys just need to hold on to the damn ball.

Red Dawg 01-16-2017 05:21 AM

I wanna blame Smith bad for us losing but I just can't. Drops were deadly. Smith converted on 4 th downs and tied the the game. Ref took it away like the NFL paid him to. They wanted Brady and Ben and got it.

Rasputin 01-16-2017 05:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Tuckdaddy (Post 12690444)
I wanna blame Smith bad for us losing but I just can't. Drops were deadly. Smith converted on 4 th downs and tied the the game. Ref took it away like the NFL paid him to. They wanted Brady and Ben and got it.

He didn't play all that great the entire game. He had some errant throws some shake your head throws. He didn't propel the Chiefs to win the game and that is something he is going have to do at some point if Chiefs are serious about him taking us to the Super Bowl. He has to take the reigns and make it look like Chiefs are in business. He does not do that. Aaron Rodgers takes the reigns and you know the Packers are potent for it. That's the difference between the two of the same draft class.

Red Dawg 01-16-2017 05:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KC Tattoo (Post 12690447)
He didn't play all that great the entire game. He had some errant throws some shake your head throws. He didn't propel the Chiefs to win the game and that is something he is going have to do at some point if Chiefs are serious about him taking us to the Super Bowl. He has to take the reigns and make it look like Chiefs are in business. He does not do that. Aaron Rodgers takes the reigns and you know the Packers are potent for it. That's the difference between the two of the same draft class.

I agree. It's just that this game the OL was shit and our WRs are just not very good as a whole. They dropped 4 first downs and Kelce dropped a big one damn near at the goal line.

I have no problem cutting him but it won't happen.

New World Order 01-16-2017 05:55 AM

After that first drive, Alex didn't do shit for 3 quarters. His receivers have a couple of drops in the fourth and he manages to put up a measly 16 points against a defense that held opponents to an average of 20 during the regular season. Our "passing attack" has been terrible the entire year.

He's ****ing awful

Red Dawg 01-16-2017 06:38 AM

True dat.

TigeRRUppeRRcut 01-16-2017 07:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kaepernick (Post 12690307)
Is it possible that Alex just doesn't throw a very catchable pass? I know this is not easy to gauge and I've never seen any kind of ranking among active QBs who throws a more catchable pass and who throws a less catchable pass, but the concept is not completely foreign.

For example, in the article below, Sam Wyche talks about Joe Montana throwing a particularly catchable pass.





http://www.sportsdouchebags.com/2013...end-sam-wyche/

Considering there was no issue with catching last year. Probably not.

SAUTO 01-16-2017 07:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TigerUppercut (Post 12690548)
Considering there was no issue with catching last year. Probably not.

There was an issue last year, your stats show it

Dave Lane 01-16-2017 07:39 AM

This is a huge indictment of Alex Smith. His poorly thrown wobbly balls appear to be really hard to catch.

Don't let that cock gargler Bob hear you talking about how ****ed up Alex is, he'll freak out.

Sweet Daddy Hate 01-16-2017 07:39 AM

Is there a stat for OP's mother dropping him on his head as a baby?

TigeRRUppeRRcut 01-16-2017 07:50 AM

Don't you two have unemployment checks to pick up? Or is this your week to get rug burns on main Street to make a dollar?

New World Order 01-16-2017 07:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TigerUppercut (Post 12690607)
Don't you two have unemployment checks to pick up? Or is this your week to get rug burns on main Street to make a dollar?

Why did you capitalize "Street" and not "main?"

Mr. Plow 01-16-2017 07:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KC Tattoo (Post 12690447)
He didn't play all that great the entire game. He had some errant throws some shake your head throws. He didn't propel the Chiefs to win the game and that is something he is going have to do at some point if Chiefs are serious about him taking us to the Super Bowl. He has to take the reigns and make it look like Chiefs are in business. He does not do that. Aaron Rodgers takes the reigns and you know the Packers are potent for it. That's the difference between the two of the same draft class.

Watching Rodgers makes me jealous of what actual NFL QB's can do.

rabblerouser 01-16-2017 07:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KC Tattoo (Post 12690447)
He didn't play all that great the entire game. He had some errant throws some shake your head throws. He didn't propel the Chiefs to win the game and that is something he is going have to do at some point if Chiefs are serious about him taking us to the Super Bowl. He has to take the reigns and make it look like Chiefs are in business. He does not do that. Aaron Rodgers takes the reigns and you know the Packers are potent for it. That's the difference between the two of the same draft class.

Alex Smith will never win a Super Bowl as a starting NFL QB.

Mark my words.

Dave Lane 01-16-2017 07:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by New World Order (Post 12690609)
Why did you capitalize "Street" and not "main?"

Because he is not Smart.

rabblerouser 01-16-2017 07:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by New World Order (Post 12690609)
Why did you capitalize "Street" and not "main?"

Because he's a ****ing moron.

Dave Lane 01-16-2017 07:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rabblerouser (Post 12690612)
Alex Smith will never win a Super Bowl as a starting NFL QB.

Mark my words.

But he's likely to win you 8-10 games a year.

Great seats still available!

rabblerouser 01-16-2017 07:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave Lane (Post 12690613)
Because he is not Smart.

I see what you did There.

rabblerouser 01-16-2017 07:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave Lane (Post 12690615)
But he's likely to win you 8-10 games a year.

Great seats still available!

2017 season tickets are on Sale NOW!

ROFL

FML

New World Order 01-16-2017 07:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave Lane (Post 12690615)
But he's likely to win you 8-10 games a year.

Great seats still available!

:clap:

TigeRRUppeRRcut 01-16-2017 08:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave Lane (Post 12690615)
But he's likely to win you 8-10 games a year.

Great seats still available!

Can't teach an old dog common sense

petegz28 01-16-2017 08:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Plow (Post 12690611)
Watching Rodgers makes me jealous of what actual NFL QB's can do.

Yeah because there are 31 Rodgers in the league and we are the only ones without one.

MahiMike 01-16-2017 08:41 AM

The one to kelce was bad but the killer was to Wilson. We were driving pretty good till then.

rabblerouser 01-16-2017 08:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TigerUppercut (Post 12690631)
Can't teach an old dog common sense

And common sense tells us that Alex Smith will never win a SB as a starting QB in the NFL.

Mr. Plow 01-16-2017 08:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by petegz28 (Post 12690699)
Yeah because there are 31 Rodgers in the league and we are the only ones without one.

Hi pete!!!

rabblerouser 01-16-2017 08:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by petegz28 (Post 12690699)
Yeah because there are 31 Rodgers in the league and we are the only ones without one.

We haven't had a QB capable of winning a SB since Trent 10 years ago.

petegz28 01-16-2017 08:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rabblerouser (Post 12690727)
We haven't had a QB capable of winning a SB since Trent 10 years ago.

Smith has won more playoff games for us than Green did....just saying

HolyHat 01-16-2017 08:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TigerUppercut (Post 12690260)
https://www.sportingcharts.com/nfl/s...rcentage/2016/

Dropped 4.9% of passes this year compared to 3.5% last year. Harris better fix his shit in the offseason. Maclin had some uncharacteristic ones. DAT/Ware/West were pretty sloppy this season too. Conley had a couple but improved down the stretch.


At least 5 dropped passes in the loss to Pitt.


Total dropped passes: 26 in regular season
http://stats.washingtonpost.com/fb/t...type=Receiving

Go suck Alex's dick somewhere else

GoChargers 01-16-2017 09:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by petegz28 (Post 12690729)
Smith has won more playoff games for us than Green did....just saying

If you guys had given Trent a defense back then instead of a turnstile, you'd probably have won a Super Bowl - at least in 2003, when you had that crazy stacked offense.

Alex has had some great defenses in San Francisco and Kansas City and still never even sniffed a ring.

HolyHat 01-16-2017 09:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by petegz28 (Post 12690729)
Smith has won more playoff games for us than Green did....just saying

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kcpasco 01-16-2017 09:42 AM

Let's give up some draft picks for Romo. And then when he's dead by week 4 we can put Smith back in.

HolyHat 01-16-2017 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by kcpasco (Post 12690838)
Let's give up some draft picks for Romo. And then when he's dead by week 4 we can put Smith back in.

GET ON THE HORN DORSEY

hitchief 01-16-2017 09:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 12690267)
Is there a stat that tracks all the missed wide open receivers for a TD we can compare it to?

No, is there a stat that tracts how fast a qb is getting pressured on every pass attempt.

Is there a stat on how wr's get open after a play breaks down cause ours are never open on broken plays.

HolyHat 01-16-2017 09:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hitchief (Post 12690847)
No, is there a stat that tracts how fast a qb is getting pressured on every pass attempt.

Is there a stat on how wr's get open after a play breaks down cause ours are never open on broken plays.

Wut? Everytime Alex took a sack or threw the ball away they showed a replay of a wide open receiver

Sandy Vagina 01-16-2017 09:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scrawny Armed Alex Smith (Post 12690848)
Wut? Everytime Alex took a sack or threw the ball away they showed a replay of a wide open receiver

This isn't ****ing Madden, kid. Real QBs don't get to see the entire route development for all his targets simultaneously and then click a button.

temper11 01-16-2017 10:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KC Tattoo (Post 12690345)
Yes this is a very plausible theory just like the Kelce drop that was down at his knees. Would a better throw have made it a more manageable catch I think so but still no excuse for him dropping it. It was catchable.

This argument is rediculous. Down at his knees? You see other receivers contorting their bodies in crazy f-ing positions to make insane catches but when chiefs receivers drop passes that are well placed its somehow Smiths fault. This bullshit is so tired. Harbernick GTFO of here with your tired shit and dont crawl out of your hole until Kapernick does something worthy of talking about again.

TigeRRUppeRRcut 01-16-2017 11:37 AM

Tattoo hands down worst takes on football.

Sweet Daddy Hate 01-16-2017 08:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TigerUppercut (Post 12690607)
Don't you two have unemployment checks to pick up? Or is this your week to get rug burns on main Street to make a dollar?

Your vagina lips are flapping verbs and adjectives again; best have a doctor look at that.

Quote:

Originally Posted by petegz28 (Post 12690729)
Smith has won more playoff games for us than Green did....just saying

Smith is a giant bag of mule shit, Pete...just sayin'.

Bugeater 01-16-2017 08:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by petegz28 (Post 12690729)
Smith has won more playoff games for us than Green did....just saying

And that one win was against a franchise that has accomplished even less than the Chiefs.

ChiefsCountry 01-16-2017 08:36 PM

Dropped balls is not an official NFL stat.

SuperBowl4 01-17-2017 11:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spider2YBanana (Post 12690272)
Maybe if Andy Reid can get in a time machine and bring back Randy Moss, Cris Carter, Tony Gonzalez and Marvin Harrison in their primes, we can improve to average on offense?

Don't forget Terrell Owens! I love me for me!

dls6501 01-17-2017 12:56 PM

I wish people would learn that WRs need to get in a rhythm too. When a WR catches a ball in the 1st quarter and doesnt get another chance until the 4th, he is not in a rhythm. Doesnt excuse the drop, but it is a factor.

Chief Pagan 01-17-2017 01:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GoChargers (Post 12690833)
If you guys had given Trent a defense back then instead of a turnstile, you'd probably have won a Super Bowl - at least in 2003, when you had that crazy stacked offense.

Alex has had some great defenses in San Francisco and Kansas City and still never even sniffed a ring.

At least half the QBs in the league could have won a Super Bowl back then if they had that crazy stacked offense plus a reasonable defense.

vailpass 01-17-2017 01:54 PM

Objectively it's pretty clear that Smith isn't the problem for KC. As the OP states the Chiefs need to focus on improved receiving talent and developing an O-line that can give Smith time to throw.

The other area to look at for KC on O is running back. Ware isn't the answer.
Reid's play calling is a big problem.
Also don't be afraid to evaluate your punting and your short kicking game.
And obviously the cheerleaders need upgraded.

Just leave the QB position as it is.

Sweet Daddy Hate 01-17-2017 05:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vailpass (Post 12693394)
Objectively it's pretty clear that Smith isn't the problem for KC. As the OP states the Chiefs need to focus on improved receiving talent and developing an O-line that can give Smith time to throw.

The other area to look at for KC on O is running back. Ware isn't the answer.
Reid's play calling is a big problem.
Also don't be afraid to evaluate your punting and your short kicking game.
And obviously the cheerleaders need upgraded.

Just leave the QB position as it is.

First off, the OP is a reerun unfit to feed ducks at a public park.

Second, no.


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