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jjchieffan 01-16-2017 01:22 PM

Ten Reason's why The Chiefs Lost
 
With my apologies to GBlowfish, I have my own 10 things list that I would like to share. Because there is plenty of blame to go around. I present, 10 reasons why the Chiefs lost…Again (Other than because Chiefs, that's obvious!)

10. Defense unable to make a stop. I would like to start by saying that the defense did well at keeping the Pittsburgh offense out of the endzone. Holding them to 18 points should have been enough. But it wasn’t/ The fact remains that they forced one punt the entire night. One! That is unacceptable. They force one more punt and the final score is 17-15 Chiefs and we win. So the defense is partly accountable.

9. Still on the defense here. Justin Houston on Antonio Brown?? Really??? You would think that Sutton would have realized that was a bad idea when Ben to Brown resulted in the longest play of the night in the first quarter. But not Sutton. Hey. I have a great idea. The game is on the line. Let’s try that coverage again. Surely it will work this time. SMH. Sutton has done well this year with covering losses to 4 of our front 7 to IR, but he deserves his share of the blame for this loss.

8. No pass rush. Dee Ford was tearing things up until Houston returned. Houston looked like his old self for exactly one game this year. He should be over his injury. VonDouchebag stepped up when it mattered for the Donks. Our passrushers were no where to be found. Unacceptable. They too share in the blame.

7. Special teams. This one actually belongs at number 10. They didn’t make huge mistakes, but they didn’t make any plays either. We have got arguably the best returner and best special teams coordinator in the league. Pittsburgh is known for not very good special teams. But it sure didn’t look that way in our failure of a game. Hill only got one chance at a punt return, so there’s nothing to say about that. But when he tried to return kicks, our blockers got blown up. He never made it to the 25, so every return was a net loss. With the way our offense was playing, we needed every bit of field position we could get and the special teams failed to deliver. Therefore, they too share in the blame. A much smaller share, but nonetheless a share of the blame is theirs.

6. Officiating. Again, a very small portion of the blame goes here. I hate to blame officiating at all, because it’s more excuse making than anything else. Good teams should be able to overcome it. That said, the refs sure weren’t doing us any favors. Pittsburgh was blatantly holding all night and never gets called, but we get called for a ticky tack hold to negate a game tying 2 point conversion? I call BS. Then there were 2 blatant DPI’s in the 3rd quarter that it is just unbelievable that the ref’s could just ignore them. Once again, we were capable of overcoming that. We did, in fact. A couple of times. But not nearly enough. So, even though I hate the excuses, I also award a small share of the blame to the officiating.

5. Travis Kelce. Kelce is a stud. Believed by most to be one of the best tight ends in the NFL. But dude, you have got to grow up. That 15 yard unsportsmanlike penalty was totally unacceptable. Luckily, Smith threw a 26 yard pass to overcome it and get the first down anyway, but those kind of things are hard to overcome, and we needed every yard last night. Kelce also had 1, maybe 2 critical drops last night. In the biggest game of his career, he let his team down. Travis Kelce, you too deserve your share of the blame.

4. The offensive line. For most of the first half, Smith was under constant pressure. The hit on Smith as he threw the ball resulting in the interception was completely on the line. Fisher may have had his worst game of the year last night. Maybe his hold that negated the 2 point conversion doesn’t get called 99 times out of 100, but it got called and it cost the Chiefs the game. They also were horrible at run blocking. There were no holes for our running backs all night. Offensive line., you too deserve your share of the blame.

3. Alex Smith. I am mostly neutral about Smith, but tend to leaning more in favor of him than against him. I’ve seen him step up and play like an elite quarterback, but those instances are rare. And that’s what frustrates me. I know that he is capable. But he just doesn’t do it enough. Last night, he was great on the opening drive. That drive was executed to perfection and gave us all hope for the night. But then he disappeared for the next 3 quarters. Granted, he was under a lot of pressure, but the franchise quarterbacks make some of their greatest plays under pressure. Smith did finally move the ball in the 4th quarter. He made some nice throws, like the 25 yard pass on 3rd and 25 after the Kelce screw up. And let’s not forget about delay of game. In the end, he didn’t do enough to bring us the victory, and he too deserves his share of the blame.

2. Drops. If I remember right, we had 5 drops last night by 4 players. And most of those drops were game changers. We have some real playmakers on this offense. This was their time to shine. One or two of those drops get caught, and we’re likely preparing for New England instead of next season.

1. Andy Friggin Reid. Ugh! I am so frustrated with Reid right now. I could almost do a top 10 just on how he cost us the game. Where do I start? Let’s start with his play calling. Pittsburgh has an inexperienced secondary that is vulnerable to the deep pass. We have Hill, who is a legitimate deep threat. Yet we never even tried one deep pass the entire first half! Why?? Because of the pressure on Smith? Call it anyway. Once they see that we are willing to go downfield, they will have to respect that. Then the short yardage stuff will open up. Notice how we moved the ball downfield when we started going deep in the 4th quarter? If Reid had done that sooner, we would have won this game easy. Ugh! So frustrating. Speaking of the 4th quarter, don’t get me started on the 7 minute drive while trailing. While on the subject of time management, we blew 2 critical timeouts in the 4th quarter. Both of them I believe to avoid delay of game. We are the Home team!! That is supposed to happen to the road team. Could you not get the plays in quick enough? Totally Unacceptable. Then there was the decision to kickoff deep after the last touchdown. I know that the onside kick is a low probability kick. But when we had force only one punt all night and there we sat with 1 time out and 2:43 on the clock(again, thanks to poor clock management), stopping them was also a low probability. If the onside kick failed, well we gave up field position. They only needed one first down to ice the game anyway. Everyone deserves their share of the blame. But Andy Reid deserves the lion’s share.

TigeRRUppeRRcut 01-16-2017 01:28 PM

I endorse this thread.

eDave 01-16-2017 01:30 PM

CP needs this thread. Blame all around.

chiefzilla1501 01-16-2017 01:33 PM

I don't understand all the heat on Bob Sutton and Justin Houston.

Because the #1 problem for our defense was that our ILBs are terrible. That's what happens when we have three injuries for our 2 ILB positions. Terrance Smith and Ramik Wilson are terrible. Justin Houston was covering up a lot of ILB because we've proven the entire month of December our ILBs are among the worst in the league at stopping the run. We did actually keep Bell a little more in check in the second half.

Justin Houston wasn't man covering Antonio Brown. He was clearly spying Leveon Bell because it was 3rd and 3, and a screen pass was so safe it was dangerous. Houston only covers Brown in zone coverage after Ramik passes him off to Houston's zone.

It's lose-lose. If the Chiefs didn't pull Justin Houston off, Leveon Bell could have had an easy 3 yards and the game would have ended as well.

To me, the biggest problem was that Dorsey sold out our defense to boost an offense that was supposed to carry this team. Instead, the defense held their own with half their starting lineup, while our offense shit the bed with basically the entire starting unit healthy. We walked into this game knowing our offense needed to step up and they didn't, from the coaching to the execution.

scho63 01-16-2017 01:34 PM

A lot of plagiarism in the OP

Aspengc8 01-16-2017 01:35 PM

#9 only unfolded that way because someone blew their coverage. I think EB was deep third in middle on that coverage.

gblowfish 01-16-2017 01:40 PM

How dare you attack Alex Smith like that? I want to have his love child!

jjchieffan 01-16-2017 01:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 12691533)
I don't understand all the heat on Bob Sutton and Justin Houston.

Because the #1 problem for our defense was that our ILBs are terrible. That's what happens when we have three injuries for our 2 ILB positions. Terrance Smith and Ramik Wilson are terrible. Justin Houston was covering up a lot of ILB because we've proven the entire month of December our ILBs are among the worst in the league at stopping the run. We did actually keep Bell a little more in check in the second half.

Justin Houston wasn't man covering Antonio Brown. He was clearly spying Leveon Bell because it was 3rd and 3, and a screen pass was so safe it was dangerous. Houston only covers Brown in zone coverage after Ramik passes him off to Houston's zone.

It's lose-lose. If the Chiefs didn't pull Justin Houston off, Leveon Bell could have had an easy 3 yards and the game would have ended as well.

To me, the biggest problem was that Dorsey sold out our defense to boost an offense that was supposed to carry this team. Instead, the defense held their own with half their starting lineup, while our offense shit the bed with basically the entire starting unit healthy. We walked into this game knowing our offense needed to step up and they didn't, from the coaching to the execution.

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Originally Posted by Aspengc8 (Post 12691540)
#9 only unfolded that way because someone blew their coverage. I think EB was deep third in middle on that coverage.

There was a reason why that was at number 9. It wasn't a big part of the loss. But it was still a part of it. If A Cb was on Brown, maybe that pass is broken up, we hold, and they punt. We lost by 2. They scored 3 on that possession, mainly because of that 1 play. I would be remiss to not include it.

jjchieffan 01-16-2017 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by scho63 (Post 12691538)
A lot of plagiarism in the OP

Yes there is. ROFL And again, my apologies to GBlowfish. If it's any consolation, I credit him for inspiring me.

hitchief 01-16-2017 01:44 PM

Very nice presentation of the total team fail.

Every aspect of the team needs to look in the mirror this morning.

What was so weird is that we are not good enough to overcome a lot of adversity like you stated but at the end of the game we were still right there and made that drive to tie that game, which we really had no right to be in. Someone else took me to task saying we didn't tie it up in the 4th quarter but I will never ever believe that in my own heart! This team did tie it up and the officials took it away.

With that being said, based on your observations and analysis, we probably turn right around and give up a game winning field goal to them but would have been fun (maybe) to see.

TribalElder 01-16-2017 01:51 PM

We should have scored more points

Chiefnj2 01-16-2017 01:54 PM

Has Andy Reid ever had three timeouts at the end of a game when he needs them?

jaa1025 01-16-2017 01:57 PM

The KO return game wasn't on 10 as much as it was the kick off return team. When Hill caught the ball they were already at the 10 yard line. This hasn't happened all year and normally doesn't to any team. Steelers had defensive starters on special teams and it showed.

And i'm sorry, I place zero blame on the defense. When you hold to Steelers to 18 points, you damn well better win. This fault is all on the offense.

dls6501 01-16-2017 01:58 PM

7 pressures in 34 attempts and he was under pressure all night?

Hoover 01-16-2017 01:59 PM

All truth.

Good stuff

jjchieffan 01-16-2017 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by dls6501 (Post 12691598)
7 pressures in 34 attempts and he was under pressure all night?

I didn't say all night. I said the first half. Of which we only had the ball 10 minutes. But it's possible that I am overblowing the pressure on Smith. It sure seemed like, other than the first drive, that he had no time to throw in the first half.

jjchieffan 01-16-2017 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by jaa1025 (Post 12691595)
The KO return game wasn't on 10 as much as it was the kick off return team. When Hill caught the ball they were already at the 10 yard line. This hasn't happened all year and normally doesn't to any team. Steelers had defensive starters on special teams and it showed.

And i'm sorry, I place zero blame on the defense. When you hold to Steelers to 18 points, you damn well better win. This fault is all on the offense.

No. I wasn't meaning to blame Hill. He had nowhere to go. Our guys got blown up. Interesting that the Steelers were using defensive starters. It sounds good in theory, but it seems like guys that practice kickoff coverage all year would have the edge over guys who normally don't play special teams. But I guess it worked for them. They kicked our asses.

Like I said, I give credit to the defense for keeping them out of the endzone. That was awesome! But 6 scoring drives, one forced punt the entire night, and failure to make a stop to get the ball back when the game is on the line does not leave them blameless in my opinion. I am not defending the offense. They are definitely more to blame. But we lost by 2 points. And when making just one more stop would have tipped the scales in the Chiefs favor I can't leave the defense out. I just can't.

FloridaMan88 01-16-2017 02:15 PM

Alex Smith X 10.

A great or even very good QB can help a team compensate for other deficiencies.

See Green Bay.

They are playing with a WR as their starting RB due to injuries to their top 2 RB's. Their #1 WR is injured and was out yesterday and their defensive secondary has been decimated by injuries.

Yet great QB play helps them overcome all of that adversity.

The Chiefs don't gave that margin for error due to Alex Smith's limitations as a downfield passer.

carcosa 01-16-2017 02:17 PM

Ten Reason is

eDave 01-16-2017 02:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88 (Post 12691636)
Alex Smith X 10.

A great or even very good QB can help a team compensate for other deficiencies.

See Green Bay.

They are playing with a WR as their starting RB due to injuries to their top 2 RB's. Their #1 WR is injured and was out yesterday and their defensive secondary has been decimated by injuries.

Yet great QB play helps them overcome all of that adversity.

The Chiefs don't gave that margin for error due to Alex Smith's limitations as a downfield passer.

Bullshit. See #2.

FloridaMan88 01-16-2017 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by eDave (Post 12691647)
Bullshit. See #2.

Drops are more magnified when you only throw the ball once or twice downfield.

TigeRRUppeRRcut 01-16-2017 02:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88 (Post 12691636)
Alex Smith X 10.

A great or even very good QB can help a team compensate for other deficiencies.

See Green Bay.

They are playing with a WR as their starting RB due to injuries to their top 2 RB's. Their #1 WR is injured and was out yesterday and their defensive secondary has been decimated by injuries.

Yet great QB play helps them overcome all of that adversity.

The Chiefs don't gave that margin for error due to Alex Smith's limitations as a downfield passer.

When people use Rodgers to make a point and that we will find the next one despite 11 previous drafts where no one has played on his level.
Get your head out of your ass

jjchieffan 01-16-2017 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by carcosa (Post 12691639)
Ten Reason is

Oh Wow. SMH I can't believe that I did that. I usually notice stuff like that. And it's in the thread title. I can't fix it there. Thanks for pointing it out.

TigeRRUppeRRcut 01-16-2017 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88 (Post 12691662)
Drops are more magnified when you only throw the ball once or twice downfield.

We were one of the worst in both rate and total number. That makes it even worse.

Did you go to highschool?

chiefzilla1501 01-16-2017 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by jjchieffan (Post 12691553)
There was a reason why that was at number 9. It wasn't a big part of the loss. But it was still a part of it. If A Cb was on Brown, maybe that pass is broken up, we hold, and they punt. We lost by 2. They scored 3 on that possession, mainly because of that 1 play. I would be remiss to not include it.

That's actually a very fair explanation and glad to see that kind of defensive breakdown without the emotional overreaction. Well done. :clap:

ChiefsCountry 01-16-2017 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by TigerUppercut (Post 12691670)
We were one of the worst in both rate and total number. That makes it even worse.

Did you go to highschool?

Drops are not an official NFL kept stat.

eDave 01-16-2017 02:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88 (Post 12691662)
Drops are more magnified when you only throw the ball once or twice downfield.

See #1.

carcosa 01-16-2017 02:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jjchieffan (Post 12691669)
Oh Wow. SMH I can't believe that I did that. I usually notice stuff like that. And it's in the thread title. I can't fix it there. Thanks for pointing it out.

no problemo pal

FloridaMan88 01-16-2017 02:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TigerUppercut (Post 12691665)
When people use Rodgers to make a point and that we will find the next one despite 11 previous drafts where no one has played on his level.
Get your head out of your ass

Alex Smith's biggest apologist continues to humiliate itself.

You are one of the dumbshits who thinks that Alex Smith is a franchise QB.

Aaron Rodgers, Tom Brady, Matt Ryan and Ben Roethlisberger laugh at your stupidity.

FloridaMan88 01-16-2017 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by eDave (Post 12691674)
See #1.

Yeah because Andy Reid is the reason that Alex Smith refused to throw downfield to a wide open Hill last night.

One of the countless times this year that Bubble Screen Alex failed to capitalize on a downfield opportunity.

Kman34 01-16-2017 02:44 PM

On the 7min drive... seems like Alex spends a shit load of time moving people around, making blocking calls, and waving his arms around ...meanwhile the play clock is down to almost 0.... I can understand some of it but I don't see Tom Brady do lot of that Bullshit.. call a play and line up and run it...

hitchief 01-16-2017 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88 (Post 12691679)
Alex Smith's biggest apologist continues to humiliate itself.

You are one of the dumbshits who thinks that Alex Smith is a franchise QB.

Aaron Rodgers, Tom Brady, Matt Ryan and Ben Roethlisberger laugh at your stupidity.

wow, are you stupid, one of your glory boys above just won his first playoff game despite having more weapons for his entire career. Could never get it done before so you fail.

So were do we get a Brady, Ben or Aaron? I'm all in if we make that trade so maybe you can call Dorsey and let him in on your plan?

hitchief 01-16-2017 03:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kman34 (Post 12691694)
On the 7min drive... seems like Alex spends a shit load of time moving people around, making blocking calls, and waving his arms around ...meanwhile the play clock is down to almost 0.... I can understand some of it but I don't see Tom Brady do lot of that Bullshit.. call a play and line up and run it...

another brilliant post. This is not midget football FCS! Have to set protection and sometimes change the stinking play if your play called will fail against the D that is right in front of them.

NJChiefsFan 01-16-2017 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 12691586)
Has Andy Reid ever had three timeouts at the end of a game when he needs them?

I loved Alex Smith's reaction to Andy taking a time out.

gblowfish 01-16-2017 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by hitchief (Post 12691810)
another brilliant post. This is not midget football FCS! Have to set protection and sometimes change the stinking play if your play called will fail against the D that is right in front of them.

Hitchief mult is making his move for early Douche of the Year consideration.

CupidStunt 01-16-2017 04:12 PM

The only reason the Chiefs lost is because their QB couldn't muster enough points to beat a team that didn't score a single TD. That is the ONLY reason. Nothing else would matter if we had Rodgers or Ryan or Brady or Ben or even Dak ****ing Prescott.

No turnovers or field position or use of timeouts or ticky-tack calls would make a lick of difference if the QB was competent in leading an NFL offense to production.

Alex Whiff is a ****ing embarrassment to the QB position.

gblowfish 01-16-2017 04:23 PM

Chiefs had seven offensive possessions between TDs.

jjchieffan 01-16-2017 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by CupidStunt (Post 12691896)
The only reason the Chiefs lost is because their QB couldn't muster enough points to beat a team that didn't score a single TD. That is the ONLY reason. Nothing else would matter if we had Rodgers or Ryan or Brady or Ben or even Dak ****ing Prescott.

No turnovers or field position or use of timeouts or ticky-tack calls would make a lick of difference if the QB was competent in leading an NFL offense to production.

Alex Whiff is a ****ing embarrassment to the QB position.

I agree that Smith had his share of guilt. But to say it was all on him is silly. Alex Smith didn't make the big game changing plays to win it. He made some bad throws, and he wasted a lot of time while running the 7 minute drive. But he also didn't call the plays, he didn't fail to block, and he didn't drop good passes. Would an Aaron Rodgers or Tom Brady have won the game? I'm certain that they would have. But I also think that if BB was calling the plays or the receivers hadn't had 5 drops or if the defense was able to force more than one punt we also would have won. Can you not see that?

Sandy Vagina 01-16-2017 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by eDave (Post 12691523)
CP needs this thread. Blame all around.

Agreed. An actual GOOD ten things. Well done, jj. :clap:

hitchief 01-16-2017 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by gblowfish (Post 12691822)
Hitchief mult is making his move for early Douche of the Year consideration.

dude, get over yourself, because I destroyed your top 10 reasons bullcrap thread, you got your little feelings hurt, wa wa!

call me names all you want but you didn't actually refute anything I said about your analysis.

stumppy 01-16-2017 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by hitchief (Post 12692027)
dude, get over yourself, because I destroyed your top 10 reasons bullcrap thread, you got your little feelings hurt, wa wa!

call me names all you want but you didn't actually refute anything I said about your analysis.

I'd like to point out you didn't really refute him saying you were making your move for Early Douche of the Year consideration.

ROYC75 01-16-2017 06:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88 (Post 12691636)
Alex Smith X 10.

A great or even very good QB can help a team compensate for other deficiencies.

See Green Bay.

They are playing with a WR as their starting RB due to injuries to their top 2 RB's. Their #1 WR is injured and was out yesterday and their defensive secondary has been decimated by injuries.

Yet great QB play helps them overcome all of that adversity.

The Chiefs don't gave that margin for error due to Alex Smith's limitations as a downfield passer.


Oh shut up, what's this with logic? You will never get the Smithies to to reason with logic, common sense and reality!

Just not possible!

stevieray 01-16-2017 06:25 PM

Number one reason the Chiefs will never win.

1 Championship in last 47 years.

ROYC75 01-16-2017 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by stevieray (Post 12692134)
Number one reason the Chiefs will never win.

1 Championship in last 47 years.

I had this conversation today with a friend of mine from Nashville, he asked me if I was even alive then.

I told him the truth ( Yes 12 yrs old ) and then felt really bad about it!

FloridaMan88 01-16-2017 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by hitchief (Post 12691802)
wow, are you stupid, one of your glory boys above just won his first playoff game despite having more weapons for his entire career. Could never get it done before so you fails

Matt Ryan already had a playoff win before this weekend.

But don't let facts interfere with your attempts to be a dumbshit.

SuperBowl4 01-16-2017 06:38 PM

#11 - It was chilly

fan4ever 01-16-2017 06:43 PM

We have a good QB.

We have a good HC.

We have good ownership

We have good management.

Unfortunately at the very least one of those has to be great to go to the Super Bowl.

MahiMike 01-16-2017 07:26 PM

Good list and I'm glad Andy was #1. Alex has 1001 threads of hate and none for the man that calls the shots?I thought FOR SURE :

we would throw down field to our obscure guys early

We would have a better plan to run the ball

Have a plan to stop the run

Tell alex to scramble every series

Play tyreek hill on every offensive snap

And roughly just have more plays planned

stevieray 01-16-2017 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by MahiMike (Post 12692261)
Good list and I'm glad Andy was #1. Alex has 1001 threads of hate and none for the man that calls the shots?I thought FOR SURE :

we would throw down field to our obscure guys early

We would have a better plan to run the ball

Have a plan to stop the run

Tell alex to scramble every series

Play tyreek hill on every offensive snap

And roughly just have more plays planned

.it's like he took the bye to script the first drive and then reverted back to what appears to be shooting from the hip, gimmicky and calling those damn screens instead of slants.. There was no sense of urgency, no fire. Just flat.

.....when I watch his playcalling, I can hear all the uhhhs in his upcoming presser.

notorious 01-16-2017 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by stevieray (Post 12692303)
.it's like he took the bye to script the first drive and then reverted back to what appears to be shooting from the hip, gimmicky and calling those damn screens instead of slants.. There was no sense of urgency, no fire. Just flat.

.....when I watch his playcalling, I can hear all the uhhhs in his upcoming presser.

Mind numbing.


They went from full-on attack to full-on stupidity.

KChiefs1 01-16-2017 07:54 PM

**** Alex Smith!!!!!


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stevieray 01-16-2017 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by notorious (Post 12692305)
Mind numbing.


They went from full-on attack to full-on stupidity.

and the players too....stupid penalties, drops on the most crucial of plays...

notorious 01-16-2017 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by stevieray (Post 12692326)
and the players too....stupid penalties, drops on the most crucial of plays...

Without a doubt.


How can a team play so flat? So many unforced errors. :facepalm:

gblowfish 01-16-2017 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by hitchief (Post 12691802)
wow, are you stupid, one of your glory boys above just won his first playoff game despite having more weapons for his entire career. Could never get it done before so you fail.

So were do we get a Brady, Ben or Aaron? I'm all in if we make that trade so maybe you can call Dorsey and let him in on your plan?

I wonder why nobody invites this guy to a tailgate or a watch party?

keg in kc 01-16-2017 08:10 PM

Who the **** needs ten reasons?

They scored 16 points. You don't win games in today's NFL doing that.

This is what hiring Andy Schottenheimer gets you.

Canofbier 01-16-2017 08:22 PM

The Chiefs lost because they have poor coach'ing

Pablo 01-16-2017 08:25 PM

The complete bundle of sticks that started the GDT has a lot to do with it. Bad mojo.

BigRedChief 01-16-2017 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by scho63 (Post 12691538)
A lot of plagiarism in the OP

this is blowfishes thing. OP needs to Post their thoughts in a different format please.

jjchieffan 01-16-2017 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 12692389)
this is blowfishes thing. OP needs to Post their thoughts in a different format please.

It was a one time thing. I have no desire to upstage George. He is the king of the 10 things. Consider this only a tribute to his greatness.

ThaVirus 01-16-2017 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Aspengc8 (Post 12691540)
#9 only unfolded that way because someone blew their coverage. I think EB was deep third in middle on that coverage.


Berry definitely ****ed up there. As a team leader and QB of the defense he should have seen the matchup and paid more attention to that side of the field.

.. but I'd blame Sutton most of all. Prior to the snap it was obvious that Houston was lined up over Brown. That is just not the look you want to be giving Roethlisberger unless you've got something up your sleeve, which we clearly did not.

milkman 01-16-2017 08:54 PM

That hold on Fisher was clearly a hold.

He not only wrapped his arm around Harrison's neck, but he pulled the back of his jersey.

It was a take down the WWE would be proud of.

milkman 01-16-2017 08:57 PM

And that 7:00 drive?

Anther case of poor clock and game management, and a total lack of any urgency.

Even if the Chiefs had gotten that tie, there's no way they are winning, giving the ball back to Big Ben with 2:30+ left on the clock.

milkman 01-16-2017 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by fan4ever (Post 12692169)
We have a good QB.

We have a good HC.

We have good ownership

We have good management.

Unfortunately at the very least one of those has to be great to go to the Super Bowl.

We might have great management in Dorsey.

gold_and_red 01-16-2017 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 12692456)
We might have great management in Dorsey.

Not fully sold on his greatness. Having seen Favre and Rodgers up close doesn't he have the power to bring in some real competition for Smith?

Psyko Tek 01-16-2017 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by hitchief (Post 12691562)
Very nice presentation of the total team fail.

Every aspect of the team needs to look in the mirror this morning.

What was so weird is that we are not good enough to overcome a lot of adversity like you stated but at the end of the game we were still right there and made that drive to tie that game, which we really had no right to be in. Someone else took me to task saying we didn't tie it up in the 4th quarter but I will never ever believe that in my own heart! This team did tie it up and the officials took it away.

With that being said, based on your observations and analysis, we probably turn right around and give up a game winning field goal to them but would have been fun (maybe) to see.

we could win games \just not pretty

CoMoChief 01-16-2017 11:02 PM

Really disappointed by both Houston and Ford. Remember when a lot of us were giddy as hell when Ford was having 10 sacks around mid season and Justin Houston was gonna come back and raise hell in the backfield?

HTF did that turn out? Ford didn't do jack shit for the last 6-7 games of the season, and Houston was dominant for most of the 1st Denver game, then he gets held back due to injury and then becomes even more ineffective when he returned. I think he's mailed it in...he got paid. **** it. If Houston was playing injured, then they should have just sat the mother****er because his pass rush has literally been non-existent (other than @ DEN game).

And Dee Ford...wtf have you been for half of the god damn season? Dude was on a tear and then all of a sudden just hit a wall and the sacks stopped. Take your QB pressures stats and shove them right up your ass. This dude's being paid to sack the QB. OMG Ford's first step...it's god like oh my! **** that shit Dee Ford rushes himself completely out of the play 85% of the time.

Tamba just needs to retire. It's been real, he's been great for KC and unfortunately has been on some of the franchise's worst teams ever not to his fault. He had shitty head coaches, GM's, QB's you name it. He's been through all of it. Much respect for the guy that wanted to stay through all of that mess. I wouldn't have.

I'm just mad as ****. This franchise is a joke.

Chiefs are nothing more than a paper tiger with probowlers on paper.

Gary 01-17-2017 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by stevieray (Post 12692303)
.it's like he took the bye to script the first drive and then reverted back to what appears to be shooting from the hip, gimmicky and calling those damn screens instead of slants.. There was no sense of urgency, no fire. Just flat.

.....when I watch his playcalling, I can hear all the uhhhs in his upcoming presser.

:clap:

FloridaMan88 01-17-2017 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 12692444)
And that 7:00 drive?

Anther case of poor clock and game management, and a total lack of any urgency.

Even if the Chiefs had gotten that tie, there's no way they are winning, giving the ball back to Big Ben with 2:30+ left on the clock.

Agreed.

The Chiefs gave themselves zero margin for error with that 7 minute drive and then wasting a time out on that drive as well.

If the Chiefs didn't get the TD plus the two point conversion it was basically game over.

DJ's left nut 01-17-2017 09:59 AM

Loser DNA.

Some franchises win when the game matters, others don't.

This team came out and did NOTHING well on Sunday. Not one goddamn thing. And when I try to come up with players that actually played well, I don't think I can really come up with any of those either. I don't recall Peters or Mitchell really getting beat up. I also can't think of any obvious errors that Conley made.

But otherwise I can't think of a single player that didn't have some sort of key blown assignment or execution error. And that includes Jah Reid who I'm pretty sure played only one snap and blew his block badly enough to create a pick. Just a comedy of errors across the board. And let's not even get into the coaching as I believe that particular horse has been beaten to death.

I'm done having expectations for this franchise. They've officially moved into St. Louis Blues territory - I know they're going to **** it up, it's only a question of how at this point.

This franchise exists to be the bit players in everyone else's story. Loser DNA.

The Rick 01-17-2017 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by CoMoChief (Post 12692671)
Really disappointed by both Houston and Ford. Remember when a lot of us were giddy as hell when Ford was having 10 sacks around mid season and Justin Houston was gonna come back and raise hell in the backfield?

HTF did that turn out? Ford didn't do jack shit for the last 6-7 games of the season, and Houston was dominant for most of the 1st Denver game, then he gets held back due to injury and then becomes even more ineffective when he returned. I think he's mailed it in...he got paid. **** it. If Houston was playing injured, then they should have just sat the mother****er because his pass rush has literally been non-existent (other than @ DEN game).

And Dee Ford...wtf have you been for half of the god damn season? Dude was on a tear and then all of a sudden just hit a wall and the sacks stopped. Take your QB pressures stats and shove them right up your ass. This dude's being paid to sack the QB. OMG Ford's first step...it's god like oh my! **** that shit Dee Ford rushes himself completely out of the play 85% of the time.

Tamba just needs to retire. It's been real, he's been great for KC and unfortunately has been on some of the franchise's worst teams ever not to his fault. He had shitty head coaches, GM's, QB's you name it. He's been through all of it. Much respect for the guy that wanted to stay through all of that mess. I wouldn't have.

I'm just mad as ****. This franchise is a joke.

Chiefs are nothing more than a paper tiger with probowlers on paper.

I've been thinking about this too. Our pass rush was pretty much non-existent against Pittsburgh and for pretty much the entire second half of the season.

When Houston returned, I thought we'd have an unstoppable pass rush. Ford was already having a great year, we know what Houston can do, and Houston's return would allow Tamba to rotate in and stay fresh. Plus, Jones was becoming a monster in the middle, providing a push. Instead, Ford disappeared, Houston was ineffective (other than the Denver game), and Tamba was ineffective.

ChiefsCountry 01-17-2017 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 12692971)
I'm done having expectations for this franchise. They've officially moved into St. Louis Blues territory - I know they're going to **** it up, it's only a question of how at this point.

That's funny. I always explain to St. Louis folks that being a Chiefs fan is the NFL version of being a Blues fan.

RunKC 01-17-2017 10:13 AM

How much poor execution was in this game?

-Berry not reading the field well in coverage
-Toub's ST's unit had its worst day blocking on returns like ass
-Hill being tackled by a slow LB
-Kelce drop
-Alex misses to Maclin/Hill
-Poe getting blown up at the LOS
-LB's/DL not using gap integrity
-no pass rush

It was a very poorly coached game and that's a big eyesore for Andy's "bye week magic" stat.

I believe Toub wasn't focused for this game at all bc he was interviewing for HC jobs. Our ST's was god awful in this game minus 1 play by Eric Murray

DJ's left nut 01-17-2017 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 12692987)
How much poor execution was in this game?

-Berry not reading the field well in coverage
-Toub's ST's unit had its worst day blocking on returns like ass
-Hill being tackled by a slow LB
-Kelce drop
-Alex misses to Maclin/Hill
-Poe getting blown up at the LOS
-LB's/DL not using gap integrity
-no pass rush

It was a very poorly coached game and that's a big eyesore for Andy's "bye week magic" stat.

I believe Toub wasn't focused for this game at all bc he was interviewing for HC jobs. Our ST's was god awful in this game minus 1 play by Eric Murray

West flat dropping the ball when he was running in the open field.
Fulton getting drawn off by a hard count at home.
Alex forgetting to snap the ball on 3rd and 1.
Jones/Reyes routinely taking themselves out of running lanes (n/m, you covered this).


It was an appallingly bad performance and that's why I'm left with 'loser DNA' as my only conclusion. There's just no explanation for EVERYONE being dogshit. These guys aren't kids; they've virtually all been playoff tested at this point. And it damn sure can't be complacence because they sure as hell haven't accomplished anything.

I just don't understand how the entire 53 man roster and every single coaching unit can have come out there and shit the bed like that.

stevieray 01-17-2017 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 12693007)
West flat dropping the ball when he was running in the open field.
Fulton getting drawn off by a hard count at home.
Alex forgetting to snap the ball on 3rd and 1.
Jones/Reyes routinely taking themselves out of running lanes (n/m, you covered this).


It was an appallingly bad performance and that's why I'm left with 'loser DNA' as my only conclusion. There's just no explanation for EVERYONE being dogshit. These guys aren't kids; they've virtually all been playoff tested at this point. And it damn sure can't be complacence because they sure as hell haven't accomplished anything.

I just don't understand how the entire 53 man roster and every single coaching unit can have come out there and shit the bed like that.


it was uncanny..its was like a different team from the previous two weeks.

I saw both Peters and Kelce dancing between plays...offense and Smith casually strolling onto the field.

They didn't WANT it...and it showed.

BeeHo 01-17-2017 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88 (Post 12691636)
Alex Smith X 10.

A great or even very good QB can help a team compensate for other deficiencies.

See Green Bay.

Agreed.

However, there's only one QB that can consistently overcome so many problems. It's Aaron Rodgers as you said. And there's only one Aaron Rodgers.

And he plays for GB whose name is Aaron Rodgers.

BeeHo 01-17-2017 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by stevieray (Post 12693029)
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it was uncanny..its was like a different team from the previous two weeks.

I saw both Peters and Kelce dancing between plays...offense and Smith casually strolling onto the field.

They didn't WANT it...and it showed.

I blame the coaches for not getting them mentally prepared. Pitt just wanted the game so badly that they won on almost all aspects of the game.

ARROW2 01-17-2017 10:40 AM

1-10



ALEX SMIFF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



The gig is up, it's been 4 years, I have seen enough.

DJ's left nut 01-17-2017 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by stevieray (Post 12693029)
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it was uncanny..its was like a different team from the previous two weeks.

I saw both Peters and Kelce dancing between plays...offense and Smith casually strolling onto the field.

They didn't WANT it...and it showed.

Showing up is half the battle. We didn't.

As for body language - we noticed it in the 2nd or 3rd drive when they put the huddle up on the jumbotron - everyone was hunched over and just seemed like they didn't have any energy at all.

They looked like someone killed a puppy in the locker room before the game. They really were the walking dead out there.

When every player fails, I guess the only place to look is coaching. These guys just weren't ready to play or didn't understand the obstacles in front of them.

Very strange.

ptlyon 01-17-2017 10:49 AM

#1 reason - Rain Man jinxed us.

Sorry if Q.

jjchieffan 01-17-2017 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 12693007)
West flat dropping the ball when he was running in the open field.
Fulton getting drawn off by a hard count at home.
Alex forgetting to snap the ball on 3rd and 1.
Jones/Reyes routinely taking themselves out of running lanes (n/m, you covered this).


It was an appallingly bad performance and that's why I'm left with 'loser DNA' as my only conclusion. There's just no explanation for EVERYONE being dogshit. These guys aren't kids; they've virtually all been playoff tested at this point. And it damn sure can't be complacence because they sure as hell haven't accomplished anything.

I just don't understand how the entire 53 man roster and every single coaching unit can have come out there and shit the bed like that.

Wait, what?? One of our own offensive linemen got fooled by a hard count? Surely you are meaning a defensive lineman right? Because Fulton ain't that great of a guard, but surely he didn't jump on a hard count did he?


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