Chiefs need a chain-mover, punisher, clock eater....this is him...
 

I really....REALLY like this kid. If anybody knows me from the old days at Wild Bills Chiefs...or Chief Concerns on facebook...when I get a gut feelin about a prospect, they tend to turn out to be pretty good.

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Check this next vid out....the 2:57 mark is gorgeous. I think that safety died for few seconds

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New highlight vid uploaded today 1/26/2017

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against a good Florida defense with some top prospects (1/26/2017)

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This one features Smith more on blitz pickup where he does a great job (1/26/2017)

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Can he play QB?

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THERE'S A DRAFT FORUM FOR THIS! YOU'RE RUINING IT!!

The Chiefs need a quarterback. Everything else is totally irrelevant for this franchise at this point.

I hope we draft quarterbacks with every single ****ing pick in this year's draft. Another year of this Matt Cassel Alex Smith broke-dick noodle-armed shit is going to make my ****ing head explode.

I'm almost sold, we need a RB and he brings almost everything I wanna see...

While he doesnt look very fast, he does... have outstanding balance, possess great leg drive, plays behind his pads and loves to deliver punishment, and seems to have decent vision

I love physical backs... they grind people down and salt games away, this guy could be Reids new Deuce Staley

My only real gripe is his lack of explosiveness, but then again I never used to bitch about Jerome Bettis' lack of explosiveness... just remember getting off watching him truck linebackers and steal their will keep coming at him

Yes, please. Although I would not draft him earlier than round 4. There are many more players projected to go ahead of him like Fournette, Dalvin Cook, Samuel, Perine, and that one dude who clocked the girl at a food joint

We need a better RB. I'm all in.

Andy Reid doesn't prefer those type of RBs.

He wouldn't even have used Ware if Charles wouldn't have imploded.

He wants fast edge-runners that are part receiver.

was she pregnant?

can he run really really fast?

does his name lend itself to chants? like TYYYY-REEEK, TYYYY-REEK which can be heard at arrowhead from time to time?

did the girl pay for their meal?

Spot on.

I was going to post something very similar until I remembered Staley... he wasnt a McCoy scatback type and played for many years under Reid

Shit like this is whats so maddening about him... its too easy to say "well, he is a dink and dunker!"

Until you think about Vicks magical season under him, or even the blatantly obvious stylistic switch when Foles played a few games

Or I start thinking "meh, Andy wants those shifty scatbacks catching tons of his BS screens!"

Then a well rounded churner like Staley comes along and sticks under Reid for years

Maybe thats Reids biggest problem... he seems to have no overriding philosophy, if he falls in love with someone for any reason, he thinks can make it work come hell or high water

Have had this kid in most of my early mocks so far. Really like him. Going to be a steal for someone.

People are finally starting to get it. I'm on board with a all QB draft :)

Yep. Wouldn't matter who we have at RB, Reid isn't running between the tackles.

Sadly, he's probably the best fit for Reid out of the RBs coming out his year.

Nobody is going to call Ware's performance this year great by any stretch of the imagination, but he still had nearly 1000 yards and got 4.3 per carry. That's the league average over the last fifteen years.

Also, recall he was a 6th round pick for Seattle that KC got off the street three months after he was cut. You don't have to expend draft selections for RBs.

I don't know where this kid will land in the draft or if he'll be drafted at all. But I'd like him to have a KC Arrowhead on his helmet when the smoke clears.

I think ware can do that IF we could block worth a damn or actually stick to the run.

However, I'm not against a mid to late round RB pick...we need one. I'm not a fan of West back there.

Ware can do it...he has done it. But when/if he goes down...there isn't another back in the stable to takeover that sort of role or workload.

This kid reminds me a lot of Ware with about 3/4 cup more power/tackle-breaking ability and breakaway speed. Would love him and Ware as a 1-2 punch similar to Henry/Murray in Tennessee giving Reid a power run option when the Chiefs have a lead and/or want to devour clock.

Can he hold as effectively as Fisher?

ROFL I don't know but he will give LB's second thoughts next time they blitz. Kid delivers a nice pop in pass pro/blitz pickup

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Buckhalter was a north and south guy as well

Can he play left tackle without getting called for holding penalties?

Reminds me of Shaun Draughn.

This is not a compliment.

Power backs can be effective if they're quick enough to the hole to keep guys from coming down the line and taking their legs out from under them. I'm not sure I see that initial speed to the whole that I'd want to see. He just seems to take a looooooong time to get moving.

And the team has a RB in Ware that's close to a chain mover than they do a true explosive threat. If you keep Ware, his complement needs to be the faster, more explosive nature and a true receiving threat out of the backfield. Smith would make Ware redundant.

Reid will if he has to but it certainly isn't his first choice.

When making the roster up he keeps cutting the power backs and keeping the smaller, faster variety. Wasn't even Ware still on the practice squad until Charles got hurt?

honestly, it might be a nice change of pace to have plenty of draft and prospect discussion on the main page...leave the madden champions to the draft forum, so that the main page has more to discuss than b holes.

THIS^

people are depressed about the season, moving on to the draft will be a good thing

Having all the non-mock draft stuff in the Lounge is a good thing. imo

Smith would be great depth...never said he'd be a compliment. This was Ware's first season as the No. 1 back and he didn't make it completely through ...concussion...ribs.

I like West... did an article on him as a rookie when it wasn't a gaurantee he'd even make it to training camp....but the offense stagnated with Ware out and I'd argue Ware was never the same after the concussion.

I don't quite agree with the Draughn comparison. I actually see more Thomas Rawls in Smith...a reckless wreckingball...the violence he runs with. I also see cutback vision and a nice subtle ability to slip tackles when not seeking contact.

You're not going to get much flash with Smith but you will have a defense not at all looking forward to tackling him in the second half. Smith is a guy I could very much imagine Bienemy lobbying for in meetings, especially if he goes undrafted.

Perhaps its just a product of the games I watched, but in Rawls I see a guy that has no problem initiating contact but also a guy that's capable of breaking one. And Rawls is actually a great example of the 'suddenness' to the hole I'm talking about. From handoff to the line seems to be in the blink of an eye. Rawls isn't a burner, but by the time he gets to the point of attack, he's nearly at full speed. Smith looks like a guy that's still accelerating in that "Ron Dayne sucking horribly" sort of way.

Ultimately I think we have room for 3 full-time RBs on the roster - X, Ware, West (as Hill will get carries as well). I would far prefer that the X be someone like Kamara, though I admittedly may have a bit of a hard-on for Kamara.

I'm less concerned with draft capital than I am roster space. Even if Smith came as a UDFA, I just don't see a place to put him. If Kamara fell to the 2nd round, I'd much prefer use the higher pick on the far more valuable asset because it's just a better use of the roster spot.

Some great points all around. I still disagree with acceleration argument on Smith. If anything, he's breaking a lot of tackles...that's going to cyphon some burst. He looks explosive through the hole and into the second level otherwise. The Ron Dayne comparison seems extreme lol

I do, however, agree with you on the roster spot being used for a more versatile prospect. That's a fantastic point. I like Kamara in that regard as well.

Do me a favor though....checkout Jamaal Williams of BYU (Reid's Alma Mater). If you want a Jamaal Charles type back HE is IT. Downside? Major durability concerns. Were it not for that, I'd argue he's a top-5 ..top-3 back in this class. I'd roll dice on him late day 2, early day-3 but he very well could go earlier to an enamored team.

Knile Davis???

Jesse Haynes.

Donnell Bennet.

I agree with DJ. I see zero explosiveness. Think Larry Johnson post-2006.

LINK - http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap300...es-mayocks-eye

This is dumb on so many levels I'm not even sure where to start. Going full Martyocre and adopting the early 00's iggles rbbc? Trying to find Buckhalter or Stayley (when we already have them in Ware and West...) instead of looking for Westbrook? Thinking that moving the chains is about the running back and not the line and the play calling?

I like Smith - hell, I'm a Michigan fan... - but not here.

We need playmakers, not more jags, particularly at RB. The guys we want from the Wolverines will be coming out in a year or two.

Question: What exactly was supposed to be Mike Cloud's game?

He's the only dude I know who couldn't run behind that all-world offensive line worth a shit. He wasn't exactly slow... but he wasn't exactly fast. He wasn't all that powerful, but he also wasn't a weakling either. Average RB size... decent hands I guess... terrible vision...

God, why did Vermeil stick with him as long as he did? He could have easily found some co-worker of Kurt Warner's at the grocery store to plug in and play.

I was being sarcastic.

Someone flipped out last year over start threads in the lounge and deleted all their posts in the draft forum.


I was making fun of them

Bell's revolution has begun!!

That was me. This year I don't give a ****. Have at it. My Chiefs and all things related to said entity give a **** meter has bottomed out.

Agree on all counts.

I'd love to see Kamara in a Chiefs uni next season.



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Holy BossChiefesque humble brag in the OP Batman

ROFL ..I know that reads bad. But it's just a weird thing with me. I just get a hunch ...somethin I can't pinpoint...and most of the time I'm right on these guys.

Got into an impassioned debate with my editor when I wanted to do an article on West when he was a UDFA. He was buried on the deph chart....not a lock to make it into camp (had a logjam at HB at the time...Charles , Gray, Davis, Draughn, DAT, etc ). But I saw some of highlights and was wow'd. Jury might still be out on West but he had an awesome '15-'16 season.

I tend to be drawn to the day-3, small school prospects. I kinda root for em a bit and hope they latch on to a 53 or practice squad.

ROFL. And dude that was a classic melt down. Kudos:D

That's KaDos moran

If we're looking at a little guy like Kamara, I'd probably hold off a few rounds and take Pumphrey instead.

LINK - http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap300...game-standouts

- Daniel Jeremiah

Gotta Love this dude! The effort and leg drive! How he finishes runs!

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adding these to the OP as well..

Lots of Smith in pass pro on this one...good blitz awareness and technique!

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LOL it was. I certainly was imbibing a bit too much then. Though, given the current state of affairs, it seems reasonable to hit the bottle again. Not sure I'll go down the road of that epic of a melt down again though.

Kamara only has 3 inches and 45 pounds on Pumphrey, but eh, whats the difference. :D

sorry n00b
haven't got a qb since '71
maybe Joe Cool
but he couldn't do what Lenny the Cool did
chiefs are snakebit 9 and whatever
there is a curse from some Indian tribe or such that makes them fail
appease the curse we get all the super bowls

Glad to see you came back though lol

Wut?

Which Kamara are you talking about that's 6' 225?

His weight distibution is high.

Things he does best:

1) run through giant holes
2) break really bad tackles

He is Ricky Waters without speed or Harvey Williams without neck.

what is the up side?

Running back is very relevant. The running game was ass awful the last half of the season. Ware had 35! yards in the playoff game.

We need a quick RB with pass catching ability bad. Not as bad as QB obviously, but it should be something we address this off season.
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In his last 8 games Ware had 429 yards with a 3.6 ypc. I'd like him as a backup RB, but he shouldn't be a starter next year.
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You sick ****s pining for bruiser backs creep me out

I was thinking of the kid from SDSU that's 5'7" 170. My bad.

Oh wait, that is Pumphrey!

Meanwhile, Kamara is 5'10" 215.

LINK - http://www.si.com/nfl/2017/01/26/sen...smith-michigan