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TigeRRUppeRRcut 01-28-2017 12:20 PM

Alex Smith highest rated QB against the Blitz
 
http://www.espn.com/blog/statsinfo/p...skills-in-2016


Passing against the blitz

Which quarterbacks fared best against the blitz in 2016? Alex Smith of the Chiefs had the highest Total QBR (93.0), completing 66 percent of his passes with four touchdowns, two interceptions and only three sacks.

Tom Brady had the best touchdown-to-interception ratio with 11 touchdowns and no interceptions. Ryan’s 13 touchdowns were the most in the NFL (he had one interception).

TigeRRUppeRRcut 01-28-2017 12:21 PM

Send your disputes to ESPN's stats team.

kcxiv 01-28-2017 12:22 PM

not shocking at all considering he throws mostly short and quick passes. Captain Checkdown should be great at this.

MIAdragon 01-28-2017 12:24 PM

Lmfao dig that shit.

Bowser 01-28-2017 12:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TigerUppercut (Post 12714040)
http://www.espn.com/blog/statsinfo/p...skills-in-2016


Passing against the blitz

Which quarterbacks fared best against the blitz in 2016? Alex Smith of the Chiefs had the highest Total QBR (93.0), completing 66 percent of his passes with four touchdowns, two interceptions and only three sacks.

Tom Brady had the best touchdown-to-interception ratio with 11 touchdowns and no interceptions. Ryan’s 13 touchdowns were the most in the NFL (he had one interception).

:facepalm:

Pasta Little Brioni 01-28-2017 12:58 PM

4-2 ratio ROFL

SAUTO 01-28-2017 12:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 12714109)
:facepalm:

He just doesnt get it.

Dave Lane 01-28-2017 01:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 12714109)
:facepalm:

So Ryan and Brady had almost as many TDs against the blitz as Alex had for the entire season. Alex is number !1!1

notorious 01-28-2017 01:00 PM

That is ****ing reeruned.

Ryan and Brady murdered the blitz yet Smith is still rated higher?


ROFL ROFL ROFL

Dave Lane 01-28-2017 01:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by notorious (Post 12714117)
That is ****ing reeruned.

Ryan and Brady murdered the blitz yet Smith is still rated higher?


ROFL ROFL ROFL

And he had 2 interceptions and Brady had none. Un****ing believable

Bowser 01-28-2017 01:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave Lane (Post 12714116)
So Ryan and Brady had almost as many TDs against the blitz as Alex had for the entire season. Alex is number !1!1

15 is a good number! It's almost a touchdown for every game he played in! LEAVE ALEX ALONE!


http://ct.fra.bz/il/fz/se/i60/5/10/22/f_d723dbab7d.jpg

notorious 01-28-2017 01:03 PM

Anyone want to guess when the 2 picks happened?


I bet they were both in the endzone, which essentially lost both games.


But hey! ESPN seems to think that doesn't matter in their rating system.

Deberg_1990 01-28-2017 01:04 PM

Alex is MONEY against the blitz!

Also, fastest getting rid of the ball in the NFL

Dave Lane 01-28-2017 01:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 12714130)
Alex is MONEY against the blitz!

Also, fastest getting rid of the ball in the NFL

Someone should tell that Brady guy how it's done.

Mr. Plow 01-28-2017 01:09 PM

All of the hidden touchdowns are what pushed Smith to the top!!

Rasputin 01-28-2017 01:09 PM

**sigh**



I'm sorry I made fun of you Tiger Uppercut I didn't know you have a TMQBIGS

Thinks Mediocre Quarterback is Great Syndrome. This is an illness a mental illness. We have had many here with it over the years but I don't think I've seen one as severe as in your case.

It's the inability to recognize a player just doesn't have it and argues endlessly to make points that just don't make up for lack of being very good.


Sad really. I hope there is hope for you.

TigeRRUppeRRcut 01-28-2017 01:15 PM

I think some of y'all missed the post about taking it up with ESPN. But thank you for the reply.

Looking forward to 2017!

Mr. Laz 01-28-2017 01:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by notorious (Post 12714124)
Anyone want to guess when the 2 picks happened?


I bet they were both in the endzone, which essentially lost both games.


But hey! ESPN seems to think that doesn't matter in their rating system.

That's definitely a problem.

Interceptions not just in the red zone, but the end zone.

He just can't do that shit.

Hammock Parties 01-28-2017 01:39 PM

This is countered by the fact that Smith had a 72.5 QB rating on third down.

Completed only 60 percent of his passes for 5.98 YPA with 2 TD and 3 INT.

Does not fit a championship QB profile at all, and explains why the Chiefs were bad on third down.

Some quick research...QB ratings on third down....

1. Tom Brady 127.7
2. Aaron Rodgers 116.2
3. Matt Ryan 112.2
4. Ben Roethlisberger 108.0
5. Drew Brees 107.9
6. Marcus Mariota 105.9
7. Kirk Cousins 97.0
8. Dak Prescott 94.6
9. Trevor Siemian 91.5
10. Derek Carr 90.7
11. Andy Dalton 90.3
12. Brian Hoyer 89.8
13. Joe Flacco 89.4
14. Case Keenum 88.4
15. Tyrod Taylor 87.8
16. Ryan Tannehill 87.6
17. Sam Bradford 87.4
18. Colin Kaepnerick 86.9
19. RGIII 84.7
20. Russell Wilson 84.6
21. Carson Palmer 83.4
22. Jameis Winston 82.1
23. Philip Rivers 80.8
24. Matt Stafford 80.4
25. Andrew Luck 79.8
26. Cam Newton 78.3
27. Cody Kessler 78.1
28. Eli Manning 73.6
29. Brock Osweiler 73.3
30. Alex Smith 72.5
31. Jared Goff 71.4
32. Carson Wentz 67.0
33. Matt Barkley 62.3
34. Blake Bortles 57.5
35. Ryan Fitzpatrick 55.9

Your boy is a loser. Had an 82.0 QB rating on third down in 2015 and couldn't even hold that mark up. Declining turd.

TimBone 01-28-2017 01:41 PM

Hahahaha....Tiger is trolling y'all hard now. He absolutely knew that article wasn't a good look for Alex. I bet he posted with a smile, and waited for the rage to pile up.

Mr. Laz 01-28-2017 01:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spider2YBanana (Post 12714184)
This is countered by the fact that Smith had a 72.5 QB rating on third down.

I wonder what the rating is for Andy Reid and his worthless, cute, bullshit 3rd down plays.

SAUTO 01-28-2017 01:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TimBone (Post 12714187)
Hahahaha....Tiger is trolling y'all hard now. He absolutely knew that article wasn't a good look for Alex. I bet he posted with a smile, and waited for the rage to pile up.

You're just saying that because you think he can help your "approval" rating.

Asshole.

New World Order 01-28-2017 01:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TigerUppercut (Post 12714040)
http://www.espn.com/blog/statsinfo/p...skills-in-2016


Passing against the blitz

Which quarterbacks fared best against the blitz in 2016? Alex Smith of the Chiefs had the highest Total QBR (93.0), completing 66 percent of his passes with four touchdowns, two interceptions and only three sacks.

Tom Brady had the best touchdown-to-interception ratio with 11 touchdowns and no interceptions. Ryan’s 13 touchdowns were the most in the NFL (he had one interception).


LMAO

burt 01-28-2017 02:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TigerUppercut (Post 12714149)
I think some of y'all missed the post about taking it up with ESPN. But thank you for the reply.

Looking forward to 2017!

ESPN didn't post it here.....

Dave Lane 01-28-2017 02:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Laz (Post 12714194)
I wonder what the rating is for Andy Reid and his worthless, cute, bullshit 3rd down plays.

So you think on 3rd down he calls plays that are all within 5 yards of the LOS? Or that calls with deep patterns don't get executed?

Mr. Laz 01-28-2017 02:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave Lane (Post 12714277)
So you think on 3rd down he calls plays that are all within 5 yards of the LOS? Or that calls with deep patterns don't get executed?

If you would actually watch the games you would see that Reid often has everyone within 5 yards of the LoS. Happens all the time.

oops... Reid just called another WR bubble screen on 3rd and 8.

oops ... Reid just refused to run the ball in the redzone again

oops ... Travis Kelce didn't touch the ball for an entire half again

oops ... Hill only got 1 target in the 2nd half again

SAUTO 01-28-2017 02:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Laz (Post 12714292)
If you would actually watch the games you would see that Reid often has everyone within 5 yards of the LoS. Happens all the time.

oops... Reid just called another WR bubble screen on 3rd and 8.

oops ... Reid just refused to run the ball in the redzone again

oops ... Travis Kelce didn't touch the ball for an entire half again

oops ... Hill only got 1 target in the 2nd half again

The last two could be just as much on the qb as the play caller

Mr. Laz 01-28-2017 02:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 12714295)
The last two could be just as much on the qb as the play caller

****ing obsession

No matter what ****ing happens you will always default to Alex Smith.


If you don't think that Andy Reid's playcalling often turns to shit then you need to start following soccer.

TigeRRUppeRRcut 01-28-2017 02:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Laz (Post 12714296)
****ing obsession

No matter what ****ing happens you will always default to Alex Smith.


If you don't think that Andy Reid's playcalling often turns to shit then you need to start following soccer.

:clap:

Mr. Laz 01-28-2017 02:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 12714295)
The last two could be just as much on the qb as the play caller

How about when Kelce wasn't even on the field on 3rd down in the redzone?

Damnit Alex!! :cuss:

SAUTO 01-28-2017 03:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Laz (Post 12714298)
How about when Kelce wasn't even on the field on 3rd down in the redzone?

Damnit Alex!! :cuss:

Not what I said laz ROFL

TimBone 01-28-2017 03:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 12714205)
You're just saying that because you think he can help your "approval" rating.

Asshole.

Hahaha. Nah, I just don't think there is any way he read that and thought, "Man! This will prove to CP that Alex is elite."

I do, however, believe that he read it and immediately knew it would incite rage here. So, he posted it.

SAUTO 01-28-2017 03:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Laz (Post 12714296)
****ing obsession

No matter what ****ing happens you will always default to Alex Smith.


If you don't think that Andy Reid's playcalling often turns to shit then you need to start following soccer.

There's a gif somewhere showing hill running free, Hell there are multiple ones.

I'm sure Andy told Smith not to throw it...

Chief Northman 01-28-2017 03:09 PM

Fabricate any stats you want. The old eye test for anybody watching football is still effective. I do not hate Alex Smith and have defended him on several occasions here, but there is no doubt the franchise will need to move on from him in short order. He cannot get this team over the top.

notorious 01-28-2017 03:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 12714304)
There's a gif somewhere showing hill running free, Hell there are multiple ones.

I'm sure Andy told Smith not to throw it...

What gif?


I haven't seen it.


http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x...ek_suicide.gif



.



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Hammock Parties 01-28-2017 03:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by notorious (Post 12714320)

http://i.imgur.com/jZy7Z04.gif

Bowser 01-28-2017 03:18 PM

Jesus ****. He was so wide open that he could have scored twice on that play.

notorious 01-28-2017 03:18 PM

https://cinemania-cdn.s3.amazonaws.c...2/151414_o.gif

New World Order 01-28-2017 03:19 PM

https://cdn0.vox-cdn.com/uploads/cho...mith-gif.0.gif

Bowser 01-28-2017 03:20 PM

Even Conley broke wide open in the middle of that zone. Man oh man.

The Franchise 01-28-2017 03:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 12714330)
Even Conley broke wide open in the middle of that zone. Man oh man.

That's Harris

MatriculatingHank 01-28-2017 03:24 PM

Jim McMahon, Jeff Hostetler, Brad Johnson, and Trent Dilfer all have SB rings.
Therefore, they are all better QBs than Dan Marino who never won a SB.
Is this is a similar argument???

Bowser 01-28-2017 03:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 12714331)
That's Harris

Yep, thanks.

Well, having hands of stone will make a QB think twice before throwing it, I suppose.

Dave Lane 01-28-2017 03:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 12714330)
Even Conley broke wide open in the middle of that zone. Man oh man.

3 receivers completely wide open and he scrambles from a clean pocket. #Alexthings

Bowser 01-28-2017 03:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MatriculatingHank (Post 12714336)
Jim McMahon, Jeff Hostetler, Brad Johnson, and Trent Dilfer all have SB rings.
Therefore, they are all better QBs than Dan Marino who never won a SB.
Is this is a similar argument???

Are you saying Dan Marino and Alex Smith are the same QB?

notorious 01-28-2017 03:25 PM

So, we know it, they know it, the entire ****ing country knows it......



Why is he still the QB again?

Dave Lane 01-28-2017 03:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by notorious (Post 12714340)
So, we know it, they know it, the entire ****ing country knows it......



Why is he still the QB again?

Tigger has Dorsey's children.

Hammock Parties 01-28-2017 03:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by notorious (Post 12714340)

Why is he still the QB again?

http://i.imgur.com/Nlp0LAJ.jpg

notorious 01-28-2017 03:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spider2YBanana (Post 12714353)

http://pedestriantv-prod.s3.amazonaw...ite-finger.gif

FloridaMan88 01-28-2017 03:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TigerUppercut (Post 12714040)
http://www.espn.com/blog/statsinfo/p...skills-in-2016


Passing against the blitz

Which quarterbacks fared best against the blitz in 2016? Alex Smith of the Chiefs had the highest Total QBR (93.0), completing 66 percent of his passes with four touchdowns, two interceptions and only three sacks.

Tom Brady had the best touchdown-to-interception ratio with 11 touchdowns and no interceptions. Ryan’s 13 touchdowns were the most in the NFL (he had one interception).

What % of Alex Smith's passes against the blitz were bubble screens or passes that were thrown 3 yards or less in the air?

KCTitus 01-28-2017 05:18 PM

Embarrassing at a Proctor level... :facepalm:

Coogs 01-28-2017 06:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pasta Giant Meatball (Post 12714113)
4-2 ratio ROFL

Pretty close to his overall ratio. Wasn't it like 14-8, or something along those lines?

On a side note, did teams blitz us more or less frequently than other QB's?

Edit: 15-8

Mr. Laz 01-28-2017 06:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 12714304)
There's a gif somewhere showing hill running free, Hell there are multiple ones.

I'm sure Andy told Smith not to throw it...

.

Quote:

Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 12714302)
Not what I said Jason ROFL


SAUTO 01-28-2017 06:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Laz (Post 12714570)
.

Youre obsessed with Andy Reid, everything is his fault.

Every issue goes back to him with you

kccrow 01-28-2017 06:31 PM

Hey reerun, most QBs try to make a defense pay for blitzing and go over the top. They don't throw a 3 yard dump off to get their RB smashed.

TigeRRUppeRRcut 01-28-2017 07:27 PM

File your complaint to ESPNs stats teams. While it would be nice to have Matt Ryan or tom Brady, it sure is reassuring our QB can deliver the ball instead of taking the sack during a blitz (hell the sack rate went down 40% this year! huzzah!) alongside some of the best.

It's just an article so don't let it get your panties in a bunch, children.

KCTitus 01-28-2017 07:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TigerUppercut (Post 12714648)
...it sure is reassuring our QB can deliver the ball instead of taking the sack during a blitz (hell the sack rate went down 40% this year! huzzah!)...

I am forced to agree... a pass behind the LOS completed to a WR/RB for a 2yd gain on 3rd and long is better than a sack. In the end, however, it's still a punt.

TigeRRUppeRRcut 01-28-2017 07:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KCTitus (Post 12714666)
I am forced to agree... a pass behind the LOS completed to a WR/RB for a 2yd gain on 3rd and long is better than a sack. In the end, however, it's still a punt.

Do you have actual facts? Cause from what I can see on ESPNs splits he had 115 plays against the blitz and the average gain was 7.74 yards/attempt.

Not intended to humiliate, just clarification. Fake news is becoming an epidemic.

Dave Lane 01-28-2017 07:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 12714577)
Youre obsessed with Andy Reid, everything is his fault.

Every issue goes back to him with you

It's a weird obsession. Reid has had other QBs go deep before, including Foles this year. There's one constant in the equation of checkdown and shit pants.

Rerun even finally figured it out.

Dave Lane 01-28-2017 07:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TigerUppercut (Post 12714671)
Do you have actual facts? Cause from what I can see on ESPNs splits he had 115 plays against the blitz and the average gain was 7.74 yards/attempt.

Not intended to humiliate, just clarification. Fake news is becoming an epidemic.

In your case its not fake its reeruned.

Reerun_KC 01-28-2017 08:27 PM

1-3.

TigeRRUppeRRcut 01-28-2017 08:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reerun_KC (Post 12714718)
1-3.

Your post is intended to upset others. Please do not troll or derail thread.

RunKC 01-28-2017 08:45 PM

It's too bad when Alex has a clean pocket with open receivers, which is quite often, he misses or doesn't try

Mephistopheles Janx 01-28-2017 08:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TigerUppercut (Post 12714671)
Do you have actual facts? Cause from what I can see on ESPNs splits he had 115 plays against the blitz and the average gain was 7.74 yards/attempt.

Not intended to humiliate, just clarification. Fake news is becoming an epidemic.

It is a meaningless stat (big picture wise) if he can't get first downs. I'm having difficulty finding the stats for this season but this is an example of what Alex Smith brings to the team. Stats are from the 2015 season.

Lowest conversion rate on 3rd down:
i.imgur.com/E72QXQQ.jpg

Avg depth of target vs yards to gain (of special note... check out how much time he had to throw compared to bigger names than his:
i.imgur.com/XHFeMUJ.jpg

Alex throws short of the markers on 60% of his throws on 3rd down:
i.imgur.com/FstXx2x.jpg

(cannot hotlink due to post count)

BryanBusby 01-28-2017 08:53 PM

http://i.imgur.com/FstXx2x.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/XHFeMUJ.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/E72QXQQ.jpg

e: trying to tag your links directly went weird for some reason, originally. But here you go.

Hammock Parties 01-28-2017 08:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MephistophelesJanx (Post 12714761)
It is a meaningless stat (big picture wise) if he can't get first downs.

QB ratings on third down....

1. Tom Brady 127.7
2. Aaron Rodgers 116.2
3. Matt Ryan 112.2
4. Ben Roethlisberger 108.0
5. Drew Brees 107.9
6. Marcus Mariota 105.9
7. Kirk Cousins 97.0
8. Dak Prescott 94.6
9. Trevor Siemian 91.5
10. Derek Carr 90.7
11. Andy Dalton 90.3
12. Brian Hoyer 89.8
13. Joe Flacco 89.4
14. Case Keenum 88.4
15. Tyrod Taylor 87.8
16. Ryan Tannehill 87.6
17. Sam Bradford 87.4
18. Colin Kaepnerick 86.9
19. RGIII 84.7
20. Russell Wilson 84.6
21. Carson Palmer 83.4
22. Jameis Winston 82.1
23. Philip Rivers 80.8
24. Matt Stafford 80.4
25. Andrew Luck 79.8
26. Cam Newton 78.3
27. Cody Kessler 78.1
28. Eli Manning 73.6
29. Brock Osweiler 73.3
30. Alex Smith 72.5
31. Jared Goff 71.4
32. Carson Wentz 67.0
33. Matt Barkley 62.3
34. Blake Bortles 57.5
35. Ryan Fitzpatrick 55.9

Mephistopheles Janx 01-28-2017 08:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BryanBusby (Post 12714770)
e: trying to tag your links directly went weird for some reason, originally. But here you go.

:clap:

Thanks for the assist!

milkman 01-28-2017 09:49 PM

Nothing quite as sad as unrequited love.

TigeRRUppeRRcut 01-28-2017 09:52 PM

Well, we have a delusional fan base. As seen by the exodus of fans when this team started at 2-2 this season.

Hammock Parties 01-28-2017 09:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TigerUppercut (Post 12714943)
Well, we have a delusional fan base. As seen by the exodus of fans when this team started at 2-2 this season.

http://i.imgur.com/hrZcxSI.jpg

Mephistopheles Janx 01-28-2017 09:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TigerUppercut (Post 12714943)
Well, we have a delusional fan base. As seen by the exodus of fans when this team started at 2-2 this season.

Do you value his ability to gain 7.2 yards on a blitz over his ability to convert on 3rd down?

milkman 01-28-2017 10:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TigerUppercut (Post 12714943)
Well, we have a delusional fan base. As seen by the exodus of fans when this team started at 2-2 this season.

You are a ****ing moron.

There was no exodus of fans.

Reerun_KC 01-28-2017 10:42 PM

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Rasputin 01-28-2017 11:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reerun_KC (Post 12714718)
1-3.

Quote:

Originally Posted by TigerUppercut (Post 12714731)
Your post is intended to upset others. Please do not troll or derail thread.

Fact not fiction. 1-3 Fact not fiction.

Sweet Daddy Hate 01-28-2017 11:40 PM

Tigger has attained KnowMo levels of Smith-reerunery.

Congrats on that!

Sweet Daddy Hate 01-28-2017 11:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spider2YBanana (Post 12714947)

ROFL

Pasta Little Brioni 01-28-2017 11:57 PM

Unleash Classic ROR!!!!!

NJChiefsFan 01-29-2017 12:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by milkman (Post 12714963)
You are a ****ing moron.

There was no exodus of fans.

Don't you know? He has the pulse of the fan base. His cute five year stint as a chiefs fan gives him this understanding. His time is equivalent to when we were all 15 and had been aware chief fans for about 4-5 years. He acts like a 15 year old as well.

Sweet Daddy Hate 01-29-2017 12:03 AM

Frankly, I am glad that there exist the Tiggers of the world. His presence and continued dumbassery serve to validate every claim that Clay and I make against Reid and Smith.

Yin.
Yang.
Profit.

Discuss Thrower 01-29-2017 01:40 AM

http://www.12up.com/posts/4355696-th...on?a_aid=41147


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