Post your short list (realistic) for 27
 

1. Patrick Mahomes
2. Jarrad Davis
3. Haason Reddick
4. Christian McCaffrey
5. Alvin Kamara
6. John Ross

I feel pretty confident that barring Berry leaving, we will be going QB, ILB, or RB at 27.

Mahomes/Watson
Jarrad Davis/Zach Cunningham
Sidney Jones/Teez Tabor
Budda Baker

I wouldn't be opposed to a WR like Ross. But feel like we are good enough there.

I'm all in for a QB, but it's tough to tell how that is going to fall on draft day.

I've said before Budda Baker is my official draft crush. I think he's the honey badger 2.0. He can play anywhere in the secondary and just makes plays.

Everyone talks about Berry being a FA, but we also need to remember Ron Parker is now 30. And his contract is easy to get out of when his play slips

Reid isn't taking a QB in Rd 1 when we already have a legit QB. They will choose a playmaker that can start on day one. Our QB pick will be in rd 4-6

Do you take a QB that needs a year or so to develop when you have a 33 year old QB with 2 years left on his contract? Or, do you just hope that you can somehow trade into the top 5 in a season or two for a guy, likely foregoing one to two seasons in the future due to lost picks from the trade?

How short of a list? Here's some thoughts...

If KC doesn't address inside linebacker during free agency nor via trade, some serious thought will go into all of these guys:

Haason Reddick (OLB/ILB)
Zach Cunningham (ILB)
Raekwon McMillan (ILB)
Jarrad Davis (ILB)

Although I doubt the Chiefs look at receivers early, they could be wondering about the future of Maclin at this point so I'd say:

John Ross (WR)
Curtis Samuel (WR)
Cooper Kupp (WR)

The Chiefs might look to boast a true dynamic TE duo and go for:

Bucky Hodges (TE)
David Njoku (TE)

I think it's' obvious that the Chiefs need to look for more at OG, so these guys are definitely going to be in the thought process:

Cam Robinson (OT/OG)
Dan Feeney (OG)
Forrest Lamp (OG)

Although I think the Chiefs should look to extend Terrance Mitchell, they might look to go for another big press type corner:

Cordrea Tankersley (CB)
Gareon Conley (CB)
Quincy Wilson (CB)
Marlon Humphrey (CB)

Depending on what happens with Berry, I think safety could be in play plus Ron Parker isn't getting younger, so:

Desmond King (CB/FS)
Marcus Wiliams (FS)
Budda Baker (FS)

Chiefs need a QBOTF, so....

Patrick Mahomes (QB)
DeShaun Watson (QB) - And I don't really see him falling

And, if they look at the pass rush last year, Ford got better but really dropped off as the season wore on and Houston hasn't been healthy, so it might be something to look at:

T.J. Watt (OLB)
Charles Harris (OLB)

Here's some additional food for thought, since you have to be slightly forward looking as well...

2018 Scheduled Free Agents (Most Notable)

Jaye Howard - 34DE
Terrance Mitchell - CB
Laurent Duvernay-Tardiff - RG
Dee Ford - OLB (Option, currently about $7.8 m)
Phillip Gaines - CB
Ramik Wilson - ILB
Rakeem Nunez-Roches - 34DE
Justin March-Lillard - ILB
Zach Fulton - OC/G
Anthony Sherman - FB
De'Anthony Thomas - RB/SR
Jamaal Charles - RB (may be 2017 cap casualty)
Nick Foles - QB (may be 2017 cap casualty)
Dustin Colquitt - P
Terrance Smith - ILB
Tyler Bray - QB
Kenneth Acker - CB

Also add in likely retirements of Tamba Hali and Derrick Johnson after 2017 season.


Seems to be heavily looking at ILB, CB, OG, RB, QB, 34DE, and OLB, which coincides well with perceived needs in 2017 (add in S perhaps).

When do we have to pick up fords option?

next offseason

Why does everyone think a QB has to be drafted in rd 1 to be a potential replacement ? With good scouting which we have you can nail a playmaker nearly every time in the 1st round with exception to the QB position. Drafting QBs is a crap shoot except for once every 10 years a no brainer is there and then he gets taken in the top 5. If you're a good team and always drafting at the 25 spot then you have to give up your entire draft to move that high.

A QB doesn't have to be drafted in round 1. The ones that show any promise whatsoever, more than holding a clipboard for the next 10 years, tend to be drafted in round 1. It is the one position in the sport that is over-drafted, significantly, every single year.

There is not a true 1st round QB in this year's draft, if you want to be extremely realistic about their value within their position versus that in other positions. At best, most are actually second round talents.

That said, if you want that 2nd round talent, and you're a team picking at the bottom of the round, there isn't a chance that guy is there outside the top 10 or so picks of the 2nd round. And that's what is left of any that didn't get snatched up in round 1 already because NFL teams or so insanely desperate to find QBs.

I would bet that one of Trubisky, Watson, Kizer, or Mahomes will be there at 27, but I doubt more than one of those are. After those 4, there is a significant drop-off in talent and potential with the closest being either Peterman, an Alex Smith-esque player with seemingly limited upside, or Webb, a less accurate Nick Foles clone.

So, you almost have to take a shot early and hope, or you do it next year in the same type of situation. It's not really a matter of if you should toss a first at a QB and hope you strike gold, it's when. This year's group has some potential but all of them are young and need refinement. Not a bad time to jump for a bottom of the round team with an established starter to give them time.

We could have taken Brock Osweiller or Paxton Lynch and set ourselves back for years.

Kccrow,

There are some insanely stupid whispers suggesting Kizer falls to the 2nd round.

You take him at 27?

Why does that set us back for years? Teams draft busts all the time in the 1st round. It only sets you back for years if you refuse to move on and find someone else.

I can tell you're a member of the true fan brigade.

If Mahomes or Kizer are there at 27....you have to take either one of them.

I can't remember if this was SI or Matt Miller's scouting notebook, but I read that scouts believe Kizer needs at least 2 years to learn.

If true, Mahommes is gonna pass him up and he'll fall down the board.

Knowing our luck.....

Mahomes will shoot up the boards before the draft and we won't have a shot at him. Kizer will fall, we'll pass on him at 27 and someone will end up trading up to 31 or 32 to draft him. We'll take a QB in the 4th/5th and he won't amount to shit. Same as it always was.

Yes, absolutely. I believe he has the best overall skill set of any QB in the draft, but he had some accuracy issues and decision making issues this year largely helped by inexperience on the O-line and at WR. He's still very young and needs more time to develop reading coverages, but even then he ran a relatively complex spread scheme at Notre Dame. He didn't throw an insane number of interceptions, so that's a plus. He has a great arm and throws with good touch. He's big, strong, and athletic. He's a pocket passer first, showing the ability to stand in the pocket, move around a bit to buy time, and usually tries to keep his eyes down the field. I think a large portion of the "hesitancy" thrown out and about by scouts is alot to do with WRs not actually getting open or him having to scramble around in the pocket just to get the ball to them this season. You didn't see that as much in 2015 when he had much more talent around him. I would like to see him process more quickly through progressions and not stare down targets as frequently, and that is a knock on every single collegiate QB really. I don't see him having any more of a problem with it than any other QB in this class. I also think he has to clean up his accuracy on out routes to the sideline. I saw him miss alot of those this year that were pretty damn routine, easy hits for 8-10 yards.

I'm a huge fan of Kizer's.

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Reid doesn't run the draft.

The stupidest statement ever from you and that is saying something. Remember you thought Johnny Manziel was going to be the best ever.

I like Cunningham but CP will lose its shit if we draft a ILB round 1.

Meh, I'm not going to lose mine. I might if if there are a couple QBs there - it would take more than 1 with me. Any one guy can be a one who sucks the penis - ala Geno Smith, but if there are 2 or 3 highly rated guys, I'd probably lose my shit.

I mean, if we were back picking at 3, and ended up with TYSON MOTHER****ING JACKSON (I'd rather have an elite ILB, then he'd at least be ****ing productive). God **** you Scott Franchise Killer Pioli.

Only if one of the top 4 QB's are available.

Oh yeah, I forgot Reid just calls dorsey after the draft and asks him what happened.

You're a liar ! I've said way more stupider stuff.

And Johnny Manziel WAS the best ever until the Browns got ahold of him. He had no chance then.

ROFLROFLROFLROFLROFL

See Ford, Dee.

CP will lose its shit if the Chiefs don't draft a QB in round 1. Personally, I fully expect them not to. A lot of gambles in this draft. I'd be more willing to bet on a move up in the 2nd for a guy that falls. The Chiefs are basically in a "must draft a QB" situation, so I don't think they can sit idle.

If we don't get a QB round 1, the pick better be Haason Reddick. That guy would be awesome here and would make a big difference.

This draft reads QB in round one all day long.

This is exactly the time to do it. Our real needs are at ILB and OG, and while it is an immediate need at ILB, I don't think we find the solution in the first round of the draft.

I'll be shocked if Dorsey passes on a QB if there is one he like. Timing is absolutley perfect.

Without a shadow of a doubt, yes. Kizer has the tools to be a really good QB.

ROFL that's not setting us back. Replacing 15 passing TDs isn't that difficult.

Give me Kamara or Reddick.

I want one of the QBs at 27. Then rounds 2-3 add playmakers on offense and defense. Specifically, a 2nd TE and MLB as DJ's replacement.

I'm good with QB at 27 because of Terrance Mitchell's emergence at CB2. I'm comfortable with Dorsey finding DBs anywhere in the draft or from other teams.

Peters, Mitchell, Nelson, White, draft pick. Safeties go with Berry, Parker, Sorensen and Murray. Our DBs are a solid unit.

Top Needs:
QB
Edge Rusher
MLB
TE2
RB
WR

This is probably fairly accurate. You're probably going to need significantly good patience with Kizer.

Teams that are shopping at the top can't afford to wait that long. I like the potential in Kizer, but you just can't help but say the kid wasn't ready to move on. I don't blame him because his value is good and ND is a program spiraling down the drain currently, but he's not ready for the NFL.

I'm coming around to the idea of a te at 27 if njoku or howard are there.

But if they're not, I'd sprint to the podium in round 3 if Jake butt is there.

Butt paired with kelce would be sweet

Right now it looks like the strength of late round 1 will be at CB, TE, ILB, RB and OLB. If QB isn't there, I'm down with getting another playmaker on defense.