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Mr_Tomahawk 02-16-2017 10:35 AM

Is Tyler Bray ready to be the Chiefs No. 2?
 
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Is Tyler Bray ready to be the Chiefs No. 2?

You saw the news this week that the Kansas City Chiefs are likely to pass on Nick Foles’ option making him a free agent in March. That would mean behind Alex Smith the Chiefs have only Tyler Bray and Joel Stave heading into 2017. Stave was a late add to the practice squad so they really only have Bray as a viable option to back up Alex Smith next season.

Is Bray ready to be the No. 2?

The answer that I have and that everyone should have: I have no idea.

Bray has been in the system for four years so I feel better about his chances than Stave but we still have no idea what Bray brings. He threw 26 passes last year, none in 2015, 32 in 2014 and 40 in 2013. These are all preseason, by the way. He has never thrown a regular season pass.

That lack of experience would concern me, especially if Alex Smith got hurt. But at some point the Chiefs need to decide on Bray. It’s hard to justify keeping him again next season if he can’t get past the Chiefs third quarterback spot after four years.




I would like to see Bray have a preseason that forces the Chiefs to make a decision on him. He plays lights out and makes it obvious he’s ready for the No. 2 role. Or if the Chiefs draft someone, he’ll be in competition with someone (a competition that would surely be stacked against him if it’s a high draft pick).

ljbeck316 02-16-2017 10:42 AM

If he isn't ready to be the number 2, then its time to cut him loose. Draft a QB already.

Mr_Tomahawk 02-16-2017 10:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ljbeck316 (Post 12743467)
If he isn't ready to be the number 2, then its time to cut him loose. Draft a QB already.

Congrats on your first post.

ljbeck316 02-16-2017 10:45 AM

Thanks. Been lurking here for years and figured its time to jump in.

alpha_omega 02-16-2017 10:46 AM

The answer is "no".

Quote:

.....if he can’t get past the Chiefs third quarterback spot after four years......

In58men 02-16-2017 10:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ljbeck316 (Post 12743477)
Thanks. Been lurking here for years and figured its time to jump in.

Yeah okay.

Easy 6 02-16-2017 10:53 AM

If he isnt ready now, he never will be

BlackHelicopters 02-16-2017 10:58 AM

He isn't ready . Ten cent head.

ljbeck316 02-16-2017 11:03 AM

That didn't take long.

Beef Supreme 02-16-2017 11:03 AM

Meh, who cares. Chiefs have me pretty apathetic at this point.

Rooster 02-16-2017 11:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Easy 6 (Post 12743488)
If he isnt ready now, he never will be

You are probably right. The NFL needs a developmental league. Even though I paid little to no attention to NFL Europe at least guys like Bray had a chance to get some playing time. Guys like Warner and Delhomme were able to work on things and it worked out well for them.

Discuss Thrower 02-16-2017 11:07 AM

No.

ToxSocks 02-16-2017 11:14 AM

Have you guys even seen Bray's clipboard holding skills?

Me neither because he can't even crack the gameday active roster.

Easy 6 02-16-2017 11:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rooster (Post 12743500)
You are probably right. The NFL needs a developmental league. Even though I paid little to no attention to NFL Europe at least guys like Bray had a chance to get some playing time. Guys like Warner and Delhomme were able to work on things and it worked out well for them.

NFL Europe should definitely be brought back, it would serve two purposes

1) provide playing time for young upstarts who need it to succeed, as you mention

2) put all of this talk about real teams in London or Mexico City to bed once and for all

RobBlake 02-16-2017 11:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Easy 6 (Post 12743513)
NFL Europe should definitely be brought back, it would serve two purposes

1) provide playing time for young upstarts who need it to succeed, as you mention

2) put all of this talk about real teams in London or Mexico City to bed once and for all

they should test out what a system like a conference in Europe and a conference in NA would look like.. I could it things evolving 20+ years from now.. where NA team faces a european team in the superbowl

Reerun_KC 02-16-2017 11:26 AM

Who?

RobBlake 02-16-2017 11:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reerun_KC (Post 12743537)
Who?

he throws it deep

Easy 6 02-16-2017 11:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RobBlake (Post 12743532)
they should test out what a system like a conference in Europe and a conference in NA would look like.. I could it things evolving 20+ years from now.. where NA team faces a european team in the superbowl

Eh, I dont really care for that at all

But you could probably draw interest from Goodell

notorious 02-16-2017 11:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by theelusiveeightrop (Post 12743491)
He isn't ready . Ten cent head.

Kilobits?

Perineum Ripper 02-16-2017 11:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by notorious (Post 12743554)
Kilobits?

Broken floppy disk

Hog's Gone Fishin 02-16-2017 11:50 AM

You never REALLY know what you have until you give him some games. He may be the next Aaron Rodgers. I'm ready to take a look see.

Chiefnj2 02-16-2017 11:53 AM

Bray being the backup to Smith has never made an ounce of sense. They are polar opposites. Smith has been an accurate, meh-armed ultra conservative QB with running ability. Bray has a cannon, is immobile and a gunslinger with accuracy issues.

No, he isn't ready because he doesn't fit what Andy wants to run.

Titty Meat 02-16-2017 11:57 AM

He won't even be on the team next year

Easy 6 02-16-2017 12:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 12743593)
Bray being the backup to Smith has never made an ounce of sense. They are polar opposites. Smith has been an accurate, meh-armed ultra conservative QB with running ability. Bray has a cannon, is immobile and a gunslinger with accuracy issues.

No, he isn't ready because he doesn't fit what Andy wants to run.

I dont buy that at all, you're talking like Reid is unable to adjust

Bray wouldnt be here at all if Andy didnt think he could fit him into the system

cwhocares 02-16-2017 12:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RobBlake (Post 12743540)
he throws it deep

If no one is there to catch it, it doesn't matter.

loochy 02-16-2017 12:19 PM

No.

Lex Luthor 02-16-2017 12:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cwhocares (Post 12743635)
If no one is there to catch it, it doesn't matter.

Tyreek Hill was there to catch it in the playoff game against the Steelers.

Rasputin 02-16-2017 12:34 PM

If #1 is to piss and Alex Smith then #2 is shit and Tyler Bray


I'm sure Tyler Bray is ready to shit on the field as our #2

007 02-16-2017 01:11 PM

NO

Next question.

oldman 02-16-2017 01:35 PM

I don't have any problems seeing what Bray has or doesn't have. It's time to shit or get off the pot with him. As much as I like Romo, he's a walking injury report. If we got him, we'd eat up every bit of our available money. Foles is a backup and as long as he's here we'll never have anything but castoff talent at QB. Start Smith, Bray at #2 and get a QB that plays in a pro-style system. If Smith goes down and Bray bombs, so be it, we'll draft higher next year in a lot deeper class.

Eleazar 02-16-2017 09:47 PM

I predict Bray will be a victim of the final cutdown and will be taking his insurance sales exams by week 10

BigBeauford 02-16-2017 10:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kram (Post 12744875)
I predict Bray will be a victim of the final cutdown and will be taking his insurance sales exams by week 10

I feel like this has been said every year of his career.

kccrow 02-16-2017 10:25 PM

I bet Reid hated that gunslinger, Brett Favre, that he got to work with in GB as QB Coach/Asst Head Coach during that 1997 Super Bowl run.

That said, I haven't seen enough of Bray as a pro to make any sense of whether he has the goods.

He's taken gunslinger types before, see also Nick Foles.

kjwood75nro 02-16-2017 10:56 PM

I'm sure Bray can not run, have terrible pocket presence, throw RZ picks and not see open receivers just as well as Alex.

Bwana 02-16-2017 11:08 PM

End the experiment already.

https://philosophyinseconds.files.wo...0&h=296&crop=1

Trent Green GOAT 02-16-2017 11:23 PM

Honestly idc, I'm tired of mediocre (at best) qb play.

Reerun_KC 02-17-2017 12:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigBeauford (Post 12744903)
I feel like this has been said every year of his career.

What career?

kcchiefsus 02-17-2017 01:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bwana (Post 12744993)

Yes, the Alex experiment.

kcxiv 02-17-2017 01:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Inmem58 (Post 12743486)
Yeah okay.

it took me a few years before i made an account to post here as well. I just lurked, then one day said, **** it.

Demonpenz 02-17-2017 02:59 AM

I have bray in a death pool

Pasta Little Brioni 02-17-2017 07:46 AM

Another thread about this turd???

ChiTown 02-17-2017 07:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Demonpenz (Post 12745085)
I have bray in a death pool

ROFL

FloridaMan88 02-17-2017 09:40 AM

No.

He's been with the Chiefs for 4 seasons now and has shown nothing.

His best attribute is that he's better than Ricky Stanzi and Aaron Murray.

Eleazar 02-17-2017 09:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reerun_KC (Post 12745052)
What career?

I think to claim he has a career he'd have to take a snap in a real NFL game.

They have never even sent Bray out to down the ball.

ChiliConCarnage 02-17-2017 10:13 AM

http://ak-hdl.buzzfed.com/static/enh...69165321-8.jpg

Mr. Laz 02-17-2017 04:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ljbeck316 (Post 12743467)
If he isn't ready to be the number 2, then its time to cut him loose. Draft a QB already.

yep


Although tbh we have drafted several QB's "already", we just haven't drafted a good one "already".

HemiEd 02-17-2017 05:04 PM

I am ready for him to be number one.

Sweet Daddy Hate 02-17-2017 06:41 PM

Nuke the entire ****ing QB roster and start over?

King_Chief_Fan 02-17-2017 08:03 PM

Only 1 option or Bray....cut him

jonzie04 02-17-2017 08:24 PM

Dude can't even stay healthy on the practice squad, why on earth would you depend on him to be the backup qb?

jspchief 02-17-2017 08:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jonzie04 (Post 12746346)
Dude can't even stay healthy on the practice squad, why on earth would you depend on him to be the backup qb?

He can back up Romoeaki.

Sweet Daddy Hate 02-17-2017 09:09 PM

All I know is this:

If, at this stage of the Chief's franchise history, you find yourself advocating for the acquisition of another FA for the Quarterback position over drafting and developing a legitimate, high round prospect, then you are ****ing dead to me.

You are and idiot.

In fact, there does not exist in the entirety of the English language a proper and fitting set of nouns, verbs, and adjectives to TRULY describe what a brain-dead, waster of oxygen you have become.

You are worthy of nothing, and deserve every ounce of bad luck, bad calls, and ass-whippings the NFL sees fit to bestow upon you.

You are the problem, not the solution, and you should probably never speak of football around people with an IQ higher than that of a house plant.

Thank you, and goodnight.

Mr. Laz 02-17-2017 10:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dagnabit (Post 12746125)
Nuke the entire ****ing QB roster and start over?

Makes no sense.

You don't nuke an entire set of QBs if for no other reason than the QBs help to coach the system to the new guys. It makes training camp that much harder for the entire team if the QBs are all trying to learn the system at the same time that they are trying to run 7-on-7 and 11-on-11 drills.

This is the kind of comments that makes people look silly.

We need to add talent at the QB position but you don't get stupid about it.

If the Chiefs are going to get serious about drafting a QBoTF then you keep Alex Smith and lets the rookie earn as much playing time as he is ready for. If he can start Day 1 then fantastic but you don't go nuts.

I will be ecstatic if Andy Reid just shows some real intent to draft/develop a young QB. So far he has half-assed it at best. I doubt we see anything different next season.

We will draft a QB in round 4 or later. We will bring in a veteran QB FA that keeps all the young guy's fight for the 3rd spot. One young QB will get a mysterious injury that maintains appearances that we are really trying to develop a young guy.

Nickhead 02-17-2017 11:43 PM

unless the chiefs plan to move up in the draft, there is no reason to draft ANOTHER late round qb having bray in the wings. he knows the playbook left and right, thats way better than bringing in a rookie.

now, if foles restructures his contract, then cut bray. not after five years.

beach tribe 02-18-2017 10:47 AM

I really hate to say it but I'm going to:
I would be ten times more excited about the upcoming season with Bray under C than a guy that "Have no Mahbles"

beach tribe 02-18-2017 10:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nickhead (Post 12746603)
unless the chiefs plan to move up in the draft, there is no reason to draft ANOTHER late round qb having bray in the wings. he knows the playbook left and right, thats way better than bringing in a rookie.

now, if foles restructures his contract, then cut bray. not after five years.

Quarterbacks drafted in the later rounds are done so for developmental purposes.
However it is almost impossible to say what they will eventually develop into.
Keep in mind the overall idea is not to develop a third or even 2nd Stringer if that's what they develop into then it does not hurt you to have frequent turnover and play the numbers game in hopes of finding and developing a special talent
If it has already been determined that your prospect has hit his ceiling then it's time to bring in a new guy to see if he can be developed into something better than what you have

Mr. Laz 02-18-2017 02:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by beach tribe (Post 12746838)
I really hate to say it but I'm going to:
I would be ten times more excited about the upcoming season with Bray under C than a guy that "Have no Mahbles"

CPlanet deserves just that

kccrow 02-18-2017 06:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dagnabit (Post 12746409)
All I know is this:

If, at this stage of the Chief's franchise history, you find yourself advocating for the acquisition of another FA for the Quarterback position over drafting and developing a legitimate, high round prospect, then you are ****ing dead to me.

You are and idiot.

In fact, there does not exist in the entirety of the English language a proper and fitting set of nouns, verbs, and adjectives to TRULY describe what a brain-dead, waster of oxygen you have become.

You are worthy of nothing, and deserve every ounce of bad luck, bad calls, and ass-whippings the NFL sees fit to bestow upon you.

You are the problem, not the solution, and you should probably never speak of football around people with an IQ higher than that of a house plant.

Thank you, and goodnight.

Some of us want both. I want the Chiefs to trade Smith, acquire Romo, and draft a QB in round 1. None of this QB class is ready to start year 1. Roll the dice on Romo staying healthy this year while the youngster gets ready for next year.

Alex Smith isn't winning jack nor shit for this franchise. Romo at least has the skill to elicit hope.


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