Cal Davis Webb enters Round 1 conversation
 

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Good read on the kid. I'm starting to like him more and more every day. Still think this is the QB Andy wants.

Any word on how much interest we've shown in him so far?

This kids situation reminds me of Russell Wilson. Both snubbed from schools they were at, went to a new school and became captains really quickly.

Says a lot about this kids leadership that he became captain of the team after only being there for 2 months.

Wouldn't hate it on day 2.

#trustingandydorsey

The new Rob Johnson

3rd or later. No way I touch this guy in the 1st, and I'm a Cal alumnus.

I agree the guy panics in the pocket I pass.

NFL executive says Cal's Davis Webb will be the best QB in 2017 draft class


http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/nf...7-draft-class/

I think KC waits till the 3rd round to take a QB this year. Need to address the front 7 over a developmental QB. The only QB worth taking in the first is Watson IMO.

The 'snubbing' with Wilson was mutual.

He wouldn't commit to even returning to the team because he was kicking around the idea of playing baseball. The Wolfpack had Glennon in the fold at the time and with Wilson not being willing to say that he was all-in, they decided to move on.

When they granted him his release, he even said he didn't know if he was interested in a return to college football. Once a B1G school came calling, he changed his mind. It looked almost like a slow-play with the express purpose of getting released from his scholarship. I never really cared for the way Wilson handled that whole thing. I think he wanted a larger platform for his final college season and rather than come right out and ask for one, he just forced NC State's hand so as not to look like the bad guy.

Which in turn made him look like an asshole. I like Russell's play but as a person he's not the choir boy he tries to project. Trying to sell miracle water to kids saying it heals concussions is pretty goddamn shady.

The weird as shit family photo he did is suspicious enough.

NFL.com's Chad Reuter has us taking him in the 2nd. McCaffrey in the 1st

27. Stanford RB Christian McCaffery

59. Cal QB Davis Webb

91. Florida LB Jarrad Davis

104. West Virginia CB Rasul Douglas

133. Notre Dame DT Jarron Jones

That'd be interesting...

That has several busts written all over the draft, but at the same time the potential to be very rewarding.

Might as well redraft K Russell.

I can see McCaffrey being drafted. I didn't at first bc I thought that Reek had that role, but I think this team will really be looking to replicate a back to do some things Charles did and McCaffrey is that kind of electric back.

Matt Dayes is another RB in this draft that I think would fit us perfectly. Dude is a very underrated RB.

It's high risk/high reward for sure. I doubt it happens but I'd be really good with it.

The first two picks would make this draft completely awful. McCaffery was horrid against good d-lines. Webb was the 4th best QB in the Pac this year behind Falk, Browning, and Darnold.

That doesn't surprise me. The dude seems to be legit, IMO.

Per the Draft Analyst site; Davis Webb met with the New York Jets, Arizona Cardinals, Kansas City Chiefs and Pittsburgh Steelers over the past two days.

This was after his recent pro day.

He is a less good Goff. Not exactly sure what the hype is other than the NFL is QB desperate.

I like Webb, but not in the 1st. Dude is way too raw and inconsistent.

Boner.

Long delivery and stares down targets. No thanks.

Holy ****...that draft would be AWFUL.

Yea! A scat back and a 4th round prospect with the first two picks in a draft that is more loaded with defensive talent than any draft I have ever seen. Ever.

I'd rather they spend a 1st on Webb at that point - at least get the 5th year out of him. Then use a 2nd on one of the DB prospects that would have been a no-doubt 1st rounder last year (because seriously, the DBs in this draft are filth).

Yeah, Dorsey won't be touching either McCaffrey or Webb. He will like their measurables/combine showing, but the tape tells the truer tale. McCaffrey won't translate well unless you make him a receiver exclusively. Webb is fool's gold.

I don't think McCaffery ever makes it to 27. You better believe horseface will do the senior McCaffrey a ****ing favor, knowing they need a player like him.

Mccaffrey = devin wylie

I'm actually firmly on the McCaffrey bandwagon.

I think he's got a chance to be an elite back.

**** you.

The funny thing is that I go back and forth on McCaffrey.

Size-wise, he's not dissimilar to Charles. And shit he gets up to speed in a hurry. His change of direction is virtually unparalleled.

But I still see Charles as an 'exception that proves the rule' in many ways. A) Charles had world-class sprinter speed that McCaffrey doesn't have. Then again, in his last few years, Charles long gear was gone and he was still an effective pick and pop runner. That brings us to B) Charles was so excellent because of his vision and his balance. His ability to sneak through a hole and never lose his stride, even a little bit, was amazing. It allowed him to play much bigger than his size because his footwork allowed him to be square to so many tacklers.

A lot of little backs go down easy because they don't have the mass to withstand a shot to the side. Well even when Charles was giving up size, he was underneath his pads and saw the hit coming so he could brace and prepare for it. Then bounce off and use his balance to recover and explode.

I don't know that I see that balance in McCaffrey. There are a lot of similarities between the two but I think it's Charles most critical trait that McCaffrey lacks.

He won't be there in the 2nd but if he were, I'd risk it there. I wouldn't take him in the 1st, though.

McCaffrey is Reggie Bush lite. I really don't like his decision to sit out the bowl game either. That to me foreshadows the effort you'll get (or not get) if the team is down late in a game or God forbid he doesn't think his team can make the playoffs in a contract year, time to mail it in. No doubt he has the potential to make big plays, I question his heart though and his toughness.

I think there's a big difference from sitting out in college than in the NFL.
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I get that to a point. He put himself in front of the team. Who knows when he would do it again, or for what reasons?

McCaffery has a tiny penis. All white RBs do.

And it's even worse in this case because this dude has Donk stink all over him.

That, and quit giving Alex weapons. He doesn't need them or use them

Yep. Charles...despite his size....ran through people.In fact...I recall DJ stating that as a reason he smashed Charles in the Pro Bowl...he sated had he gone into that collision half-assed, Charles wouldve embarrassed him. No evidence of McCaffrey doing that on a consistent enough basis to liken him to Charles IMO.

Nah, I'll take the word of his coaches and teammates on that one. By all accounts, McCaffrey is an exceptional teammate and hard worker. It was an exhibition game - it didn't matter at all.

If it means he'll jake it in a pre-season game, that's fine. But that's the only stock I'll put in that decision. Frankly, I wouldn't blame more guys for doing it.

McCaffrey doesn't. Look at the game film in the two WSU games. He was dominated and shut down.

You can't discredit him just because he doesn't do everything as great as one of the best running backs ever.
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The more personnel guys I talked to at NFL Meetings, the more convinced I am Davis Webb is going in first round - higher than you think.</p>&mdash; Pete Prisco (@PriscoCBS) <a href="https://twitter.com/PriscoCBS/status/847275246973366272">March 30, 2017</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

I'm really interested to see how the QB's fall in this draft. The top 4 could go really in any order. Webb would be my 5th favorite... he has all the tools. Wouldn't be terribly upset if the others went early and we picked him.

Dorsey loves those senior bowl standouts.

Here is probably why. Pete's current mock.

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/n...trick-mahomes/

And the Jets **** up another QB again.

Really good article on Davis Webb that shows why a lot of teams like him.

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/ho...the-nfl-draft/

A few good pieces of info here:

I think he's the most likely choice for us. Just think Mahomes is too hot for us to get to. I also think he could be the third qb taken. Watson' arm strength is going to raise a lot of red flags imo

Boy drafting an ILB with Alex Smith as the QB will be really exciting for next year. Love watching our defense hold a team to 14 points and the offense struggle in the last minutes to get to 17.

I love this segment on Webb. Some of the stuff Webb says just makes him/his attitude come off as awesome as hell.

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This is just such an odd QB class.

Dipshit Knowmo says that Lynch would've been a potential #1 overall pick in this class yet I've seen quite a few scouts say they have higher grades on Webb than they had on Goff last year.

So either the 5th best QB in this year's class is better than the 2nd best QB in last year's class or nobody has a goddamn idea what to think about the quarterbacks this year.

Or both.

Webb might violate my 'no ugly QBs' rule.

I just get the feeling that he looks like Elvis Grbac with a helmet on. It's hard to rally behind howdy doodey. He even looks goofy doing athletic drills. There's a lot of general awkwardness to him when you see him without pads and a helmet on.

https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q...C7&FORM=VRDGAR

Am I the only one that thinks he looks like Drew Brees? Perfect touch on the ball, great arm, goes through his progressions and finds the open guy.

I hope we draft this kid!!! With his work ethic and positive attitude- he will be a Champion some day. I hope he wins his rings with the Chiefs!!

Sounds like you are talking about a clumsy, dorky looking 7th rounder named.......Tom Brady. :)

Just the look?

He looks like the love child of Jim Kelly and Pee Wee Herman.

Yep Chiefs should go with a more handsome QB that looks good in a suit... like they did with Todd Blackledge over a sloppy dressed, unrefined Marino.

I know you're joking but I can't help but do this when evaluating QB's

LMAO

I am not making any comment or expressing any opinion on which QB the Chiefs should be considering.

That post was a joke.

Nothing more and nothing less.

My quarterback needs to have ****ed the prom queen. I just feel like that's a pre-requisite.

Mr. "Golly gee, I was a backup on C team as a freshman" was scraping up leftovers in the flag corps until his senior year when he had a car and started banging sophomore 6s that were just looking for a ride to school and a way into the upperclassmen dances.

I know and it was spot on. The Chiefs DO have a history of drafting guys that LOOK like a QB... that is until they get the pads on.

I work on Saturdays so rarely get to watch college football. I will have to trust people's opinions on here if he is the real deal. I can only go by what I see on the videos and I think he looks better than any other QB in the draft. But, like I said, I could be looking at him with Rose Colored glasses- since I want the Chiefs to draft a quality franchise QB so bad.

ROFL Now that is funny stuff!

That'll bust on you as often as it'll work out, I feel.

You need a guy who's going to show up every day to work and work hard.

That to me is more important than a QB that is some cock of the walk.

HI GUYZTH ITS ME JUST GOT DONE WITH MY CLARINET LESSON READY TO PRACTICE SOME FOOTBALL

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I'll bet Bray ****ed the prom queen. Maybe he should get a shot at starting. :hmmm:

Hiiiiii giiiirls. I'm the quaaaarterbaaack. I losssstht my numberrrrr... can I have yooooouuurrssssssssss?

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Also, I'm not sure Russell Wilson has ****ed the prom queen.

I'm not sure if he's ****ed at all.

I'm not even sure if he's ever masturbated. That dude is creepy when it comes to sex.

He lost his virginity to Ciara thats well worth the wait.

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I have no rebuttal for this so I shall simply ignore it.

Sounds like that scene from Moneyball.

"He's got an ugly girlfriend. An ugly girlfriend means no confidence."

Though Andy Dalton could've peacocked the hell out of that ginger shit.

That's who Davis Webb is. Elite frame, elite arm, leadership and loads of potential.

Derek Carr was similar. He made some real WTF throws at Fresno St but he was a hardworking leader who could make all the throws and had the potential.

We loved Carr and we tried to get Lynch. One would think they would want Webb.

Billy Beane spent 80% of that movie being wrong about pretty much every word out of his mouth.

Carlos Pena was a much better 1b and overall player than Scott Hatteberg. Chad Bradford had no business facing lefthanders and when you look at the people Beane actually drafted with his '**** body types' nonsense, almost all of them sucked pretty badly. I tried to explain to my wife that 3 years later Carlos Pena had a season on par with Albert !@#$ing Pujols and got MVP votes, not to mention a gold glove. But only after Beane dumped him for nothing just so Art Howe would play a 32 year old first baseman with no ceiling. She suddenly couldn't figure out why we were supposed to be impressed by Billy Beane.

God I hated that !@#$ing movie. 2 hours and not a single mention of Hudson, Zito, Mulder, Tejada or Chavez - the 5 best players on that team by a lot. Hell, Lidle was as important to that squad as any of the d-bags they wanted to talk about. Instead I'm supposed to act like ****ing Terrance Long and Ricardo Rincon made all the difference and Billy Koch throwing 100 goddamn miles an hour was just there for the ride.

**** Billy Beane in his face; overrated hack who knows he'd fail if he went to a big market team and didn't have the excuses to fall back on. The guy hasn't been shit for 10 years and wasn't really all that great at his apex.

I think Andrew Luck had corrective facial surgery when he was younger. They were supposed to take the cheek bones of a hobo and graft them onto Andrew's face.

The problem is they got it wrong. They took the butt cheek bones of a hobo.

Thus, that's why Andrew Luck looks the way he does.

I don't disagree with any of that. Not to mention, even in the movie, it was Jonah Hill's character doing all the work, not Billy Beane.

Just thought it was funny about ****ing the prom queen. I doubt Tom Brady's skinny awkward ass was ****ing the prom queen, but he is now.

I don't give two shits if he looks like a goofy ****. I've definitely seen goofier looking ****ers. He has a live arm, a good head on his shoulders and a good work ethic. I would have more of a problem with someone who sounds like an idiot than someone who looks like one. I'm kinda hoping we take Mahomes or Webb.

Webb is going somewhere in the first...as mentioned a few times, multiple teams have told him he is a first round talent...I think a double-digit amount of teams. If he isn't selected in the 1st somewhere, then these NFL scouts feed these draft kids bullshit before the draft. The way Webb talks about it, though...I believe him. This guy gives a really smooth interview. He talks about the scouts telling him that he's a first round talent towards the end of this episode.

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Seven. Minute. Abs...

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Some of the best players in pro-sports have two first names, i.e Jamaal Charles. Michael Jordan.

Davis Webb has two last names....RED FLAG.

One thing I don't think we've really looked at with the Chiefs. They don't currently have a backup QB. I don't think they're serious about Bray, maybe they are, we'll find out.

Anyway, they need a QB that can atleast be a backup right away. Webb seems to be the best bet to do that at where they'll be picking.

I wouldn't be surprised. I watched every throw hes made at Cal, and its not really impressive. However , i looked back at his time at tex tech and watched every throw from his time there, and its like a totally different qb. I just hope cal didnt ruin him.

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Well Cal's coach has been trying to GTFO of Cal since the coach got there.....