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Sure-Oz 03-17-2017 07:24 AM

DJ and Sherman take a pay cut
 
@FieldYates: Source: Chiefs LB Derrick Johnson has taken a pay cut for 2017. He got a $1M signing bonus & $1M base salary, creating ~$4.25M in cap space.

http://www.espn.com/espn/now?nowId=2...130853782707-4

The full story on LB Derrick Johnson & FB Anthony Sherman's reworked contracts: The Chiefs - who were tight to the salary cap - have agreed to a major pay cut with linebacker Derrick Johnson, per league source. Johnson, who tore his Achilles last year, was due a base salary $4.75M for 2017 and up to $1M in per game roster bonuses. Under his new terms, he signed a deal with a $1M signing bonus and a $1M fully guaranteed base salary. It creates about $4.25M in cap space for the Chiefs and keeps a key leader around. The 2018 portion of his contract remains unchanged, other than the $500k proration of the new signing bonus. The Chiefs also negotiated a pay cut with FB Anthony Sherman, whose base salary was dropped from $1.55M to $1.1M (fully guaranteed). He had per-game roster bonuses of $12,500 that were dropped to $6,250, which created a total of $550,000 in cap space for Kansas City. These moves likely helped facilitate the recent signing of DT Bennie Logan.

[http://a]Field Yates, ESPN Insider

RunKC 03-17-2017 07:40 AM

DJ has always been a team player. Old or not I'm going to enjoy his last year or two as a Chief.

Bowser 03-17-2017 07:42 AM

Excellent, we need all the help we can get with the cap.

I think DJ knew he likely didn't have a choice in the matter - restructure or be cut. It's the crappy but necessary business side of football.

Rain Man 03-17-2017 07:46 AM

Great team players.

ChiliConCarnage 03-17-2017 07:47 AM

gives DJ the chance to play great and earn the 2018 salary or more of t

Fansy the Famous Bard 03-17-2017 07:49 AM

.... Paging Tamba.

Bowser 03-17-2017 07:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fahrenheit (Post 12786891)
.... Paging Tamba.

Yeah, seriously. The Chiefs really boffed that whole situation up. Not sure why he would do it because he has all the leverage, but he is a team guy.

Dayze 03-17-2017 07:55 AM

can we get Alex to take a cut?

lol

pugsnotdrugs19 03-17-2017 08:02 AM

DJ is just incredible.

mcaj22 03-17-2017 08:07 AM

i see a guy for 17 million that plays more like 7 million that should create about 10 million in space

Fansy the Famous Bard 03-17-2017 08:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mcaj22 (Post 12786914)
i see a guy for 17 million that plays more like 7 million that should create about 10 million in space

We gain about $9 mil this season by cutting\trading him. But we don't have a replacement. Regardless of what happens at this point with the draft\FA\trades... Alex will be a Chief this season.

.... Next season however. We would free $20+ mil by replacing him with whoever we draft this year. :)

ARROW2 03-17-2017 08:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fahrenheit (Post 12786926)
We gain about $9 mil this season by cutting\trading him. But we don't have a replacement. Regardless of what happens at this point with the draft\FA\trades... Alex will be a Chief this season.

.... Next season however. We would free $20+ mil by replacing him with whoever we draft this year. :)

I am to the point that IDGAF!!!!!!! I still can see Tyreek running free in that WEAK ASS Pitt secondary that Smiff couldn't exploit AT HOME!!!

ARROW2 03-17-2017 08:34 AM

Tired of hoping that the rest of the team plays at peak level at the right time for Alex to win something BIG. This shit is beyond old.......Everybody does realize it has been 47 years since we won it, right?

YayMike 03-17-2017 08:44 AM

I expect Tamba and Colquitt to restructure too. Creating enough space for the rookies and even another low level FA Signing if we need one.

Bowser 03-17-2017 08:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ARROW2 (Post 12786946)
Tired of hoping that the rest of the team plays at peak level at the right time for Alex to win something BIG. This shit is beyond old.......Everybody does realize it has been 47 years since we won it, right?

Just to throw fuel on the fire -

We've only won four playoff games since that 1969 season. Four. Statistically speaking we should have lucked into a few more wins than that in 47 years, much less championships. It's unbelievable, really.

notorious 03-17-2017 08:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 12786904)
DJ is just incredible.

This.

Wow.

notorious 03-17-2017 08:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 12786957)
Just to throw fuel on the fire -

We've only won four playoff games since that 1969 season. Four. Statistically speaking we should have lucked into a few more wins than that in 47 years, much less championships. It's unbelievable, really.

It's Friday. Don't piss on my scrambled eggs.

Bowser 03-17-2017 08:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by notorious (Post 12786962)
It's Friday. Don't piss on my scrambled eggs.

Sorry, I've got all this used green beer and I don't know where to put it. :D

raybec 4 03-17-2017 08:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fahrenheit (Post 12786926)
We gain about $9 mil this season by cutting\trading him. But we don't have a replacement. Regardless of what happens at this point with the draft\FA\trades... Alex will be a Chief this season.

.... Next season however. We would free $20+ mil by replacing him with whoever we draft this year. :)

Actually we gain 13 million if he's a post June 1st cut

notorious 03-17-2017 08:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 12786964)
Sorry, I've got all this used green beer and I don't know where to put it. :D

Down the hatch!


Used? Wait, what?!

ptlyon 03-17-2017 08:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by notorious (Post 12786962)
It's Friday. Don't piss on my scrambled eggs.

There better be spam in there, mister!

Best22 03-17-2017 08:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 12786957)
Just to throw fuel on the fire -

We've only won four playoff games since that 1969 season. Four. Statistically speaking we should have lucked into a few more wins than that in 47 years, much less championships. It's unbelievable, really.

I'm not so bothered by the championship drought. I am more upset that we have only played in one AFC championship game in 47 seasons. Teams like Pittsburgh, Denver, New England have literally played in COUNTLESS AFCCG since then.

Best22 03-17-2017 08:56 AM

Winning a championship is always a huge, huge deal. The real difference between the Chiefs and top franchises is how they feel about Conference championship game appearances. For teams like Pit, Dungver, and New England, its just another game.

For us, it'd feel like a banner season

The Franchise 03-17-2017 09:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 12786894)
Yeah, seriously. The Chiefs really boffed that whole situation up. Not sure why he would do it because he has all the leverage, but he is a team guy.

Yeah, he's got zero ****ing reason to take a paycut. He knows the Chiefs aren't going to cut him and take on all of that dead money.

pugsnotdrugs19 03-17-2017 09:16 AM

Tamba sent this tweet out last night:

"NO MORE FAVORS!!!!#PEOPLEAREUNGRATEFUL" - @TambaHali91

Sounds to me like they wanted a pay cut from him but he's done doing that... he also had retweeted a post from a guy who said something about him not needing to take any more pay cuts in his career about a week ago.

The Franchise 03-17-2017 09:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 12786993)
Tamba sent this tweet out last night:

"NO MORE FAVORS!!!!#PEOPLEAREUNGRATEFUL" - @TambaHali91

Sounds to me like they wanted a pay cut from him but he's done doing that... he also had retweeted a post from a guy who said something about him not needing to take any more pay cuts in his career about a week ago.

Goodbye after next season, Tamba. Your knees are ****ing done. We should have never signed him to that contract but I understand why they did.

Sofa King 03-17-2017 09:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 12786995)
Goodbye after next season, Tamba. Your knees are ****ing done. We should have never signed him to that contract but I understand why they did.

This. Even a post June cut would save over a million this year.

raybec 4 03-17-2017 09:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sofa King (Post 12786998)
This. Even a post June cut would save over a million this year.

Leaves 7 million dead money, it's better to just get what you can outta him.

raybec 4 03-17-2017 09:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Best22 (Post 12786975)
I'm not so bothered by the championship drought. I am more upset that we have only played in one AFC championship game in 47 seasons. Teams like Pittsburgh, Denver, New England have literally played in COUNTLESS AFCCG since then.

Not literally, you could easily count them.

The Franchise 03-17-2017 09:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by raybec 4 (Post 12786999)
Leaves 7 million dead money, it's better to just get what you can outta him.

Yep, at this point you let him play out the year. Hopefully we pick up a pass rusher in the draft this year because we're going to ****ing need him.

pugsnotdrugs19 03-17-2017 09:25 AM

You know I hate to be 'that guy', but is it really necessary for Tamba to be out there vocally expressing his displeasure about this? At least DJ was actually contributing at a level near his salary last year before his injury. Tamba doesn't even practice anymore.

He's an all-time Chief, but if anyone needed to take the bigger pay cut it was him.

The Franchise 03-17-2017 09:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 12787002)
You know I hate to be 'that guy', but is it really necessary for Tamba to be out there vocally expressing his displeasure about this? At least DJ was actually contributing at a level near his salary last year before his injury. Tamba doesn't even practice anymore.

He's an all-time Chief, but if anyone needed to take the bigger pay cut it was him.

It's not really being "that guy". Dude is to the point where he's like Alex Smith. He's not playing up to what he's making.

5th highest cap hit this year. This isn't like he's Justin Houston and he was hurt and coming back from an injury. Hali is just old and done.

raybec 4 03-17-2017 09:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 12787001)
Yep, at this point you let him play out the year. Hopefully we pick up a pass rusher in the draft this year because we're going to ****ing need him.

As much as Tamba has been a great contributor, he's not anymore. He's got the team in a Ted Nugent style stranglehold with the awful contract and the way he seemingly fell off a cliff last year. He shouldn't be talking shit but he knows the team can't really do anything about it.

pugsnotdrugs19 03-17-2017 09:43 AM

Apparently DJ's pay cut money got pushed to 2018, so he's likely here for the next two years.

RunKC 03-17-2017 09:44 AM

Tamba was better than his stats showed last year, but it's time to stock up in the draft and this draft is deep in quality rushers.

It's a shame that Dadi Nicolas got hurt bc he has natural pass rush moves and just needed an offseason to gain some muscle.

TigeRRUppeRRcut 03-17-2017 09:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dayze (Post 12786895)
can we get Alex to take a cut?

lol

Depending on what other free agency move they have in mind if any and their thoughts on the qbotf, wouldn't be surprised if he restructures Smith with goal of him playing thru age 34

Danguardace 03-17-2017 10:01 AM

Easy to slam the deal in hindsight but Hali was really good in 2015 and he signed this contract after that season, Hopefully he gets in good shape and has good final season.

I wonder if Dorsey goes back in for Hodges.

Danguardace 03-17-2017 10:04 AM

Also we never really did much to help our Pass rushes like Stop the run or put up good scores on offense. Hopefully those other areas improve.

Chiefnj2 03-17-2017 10:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 12787002)
You know I hate to be 'that guy', but is it really necessary for Tamba to be out there vocally expressing his displeasure about this? At least DJ was actually contributing at a level near his salary last year before his injury. Tamba doesn't even practice anymore.

He's an all-time Chief, but if anyone needed to take the bigger pay cut it was him.

He took a pay cut last year didn't he?

pugsnotdrugs19 03-17-2017 10:15 AM

The money that DJ cut out this year was turned into incentives this year, per Terez Paylor. If he reaches those incentives, the cap hit goes to 2018.

Molitoth 03-17-2017 10:19 AM

DJ is awesome. One of my fav chiefs.

SAUTO 03-17-2017 10:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 12786904)
DJ is just incredible.

its so chiefs to use our under the table payment plan on an ILB, teams like the patriots use it on the best QB ever...

mcaj22 03-17-2017 10:24 AM

I cant wait for 2018 when a lot of these guys get cut, go away, retire and there is a bunch of cap space to try something new.

I appreciate what these Chiefs have done a lot of them all time Chiefs wasted away their prime years on some bad Chiefs teams and are just trying to get their money because father time is now against them, but from a business and flexibility standpoint its hurting the franchise and its just time for some out with old and in with the new.

This current crop got as far as they could and I enjoyed watching them but 2017 better be the last of this window

Quesadilla Joe 03-17-2017 10:25 AM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">DJ can recoup all the money through incentives, I&#39;m told. He&#39;s helping out the team here by freeing up cap space.</p>&mdash; Terez A. Paylor (@TerezPaylor) <a href="https://twitter.com/TerezPaylor/status/842768025396924420">March 17, 2017</a></blockquote>
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Hammock Parties 03-17-2017 10:25 AM

Rise.

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Chief Northman 03-17-2017 10:28 AM

I am not terribly pleased that Hali took to social media to voice his displeasure, but there is no doubt he has taken less/"played ball" with the brass before with regards to contract management. He is collecting his just due whether we like it or not.

Easy 6 03-17-2017 10:31 AM

Sherman might as well take a pay cut right off the team for no more than he is used

DJ is showing a lot of goodwill, good on him

Tamba has earned the right to talk back, but the truth is that he is kaput... at this point his only real value is leadership

Perineum Ripper 03-17-2017 10:31 AM

All this DJ love going around and everyone forgets about Sherman




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wazu 03-17-2017 10:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mac459 (Post 12787096)
All this DJ love going around and everyone forgets about Sherman




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The Sausage!

scho63 03-17-2017 11:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 12786880)
DJ has always been a team player. Old or not I'm going to enjoy his last year or two as a Chief.

Sadly, I think this is his last year.....

Toad 03-17-2017 12:44 PM

Can someone please quantify the "favor" the Tamba mentioned on social media? How much did he save the organization when he restructured? Since the dead money wouldn't make it feasible to cut him this year, won't he realize everybit of those $ from the restructure?
Thanks in advance

RealSNR 03-17-2017 12:46 PM

Did Sherman even see the field for 25% of the offensive snaps this year?

Seriously. He was on the field about as often as our long snapper. If you're paying him to be a special teams guy, he needs to fill a depth position of value.

RealSNR 03-17-2017 12:48 PM

After we draft TJ Watt, Tampa should be a June 1st cut

mdchiefsfan 03-17-2017 01:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fahrenheit (Post 12786891)
.... Paging Tamba and Colquitt.

FYP

Rain Man 03-17-2017 02:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 12787285)
After we draft TJ Watt, Tampa should be a June 1st cut

I don't think that will happen. It's a pretty big market.

oldman 03-17-2017 03:13 PM

If DJ isn't on the Ring of Honor the very first season he's eligible, I will personally go piss on Clark's front yard. Class act, on and off the field. My 2nd favorite Chief ever, after Mr. Willie Lanier.

Mr. Laz 03-17-2017 03:19 PM

I doubt they "took a pay cut"

they restructured their deal but it looks like they didn't lose any money.

Mr. Laz 03-17-2017 03:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by YayMike (Post 12786955)
I expect Tamba and Colquitt to restructure too. Creating enough space for the rookies and even another low level FA Signing if we need one.

Absolutely not, restructuring Tamba would just put us in a bigger hole when he leaves.

Tamba needs to take a true pay cut or do nothing with his contract.

SAUTO 03-17-2017 03:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Laz (Post 12787478)
I doubt they "took a pay cut"

they restructured their deal but it looks like they didn't lose any money.

looks like he lost over 4 million to me, but i might be missing something.

looks like he can recoup it through incentives BUT he's hurt, how likely is that?

Mr. Laz 03-17-2017 03:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 12787498)
looks like he lost over 4 million to me, but i might be missing something

Yea, we don't really know what happened yet. Sounds like to me he will get that 4 million back if he is healthy enough to make the team but still just guessing.


Here's another article


Report: Derrick Johnson, Anthony Sherman take a pay cut
EMAIL
By: Wesley Roesch | 8 hours ago
Wondering how the Kasnas City Chiefs were able to afford signing defensive lineman Bennie Logan to a one-year, $8 million deal?

Well, here’s your answer.

Per Field Yates of ESPN, Chiefs linebacker Derrick Johnson took a pay cut for 2017, creating $4.25 million in cap room.

Source: Chiefs LB Derrick Johnson has taken a pay cut for 2017. He got a $1M signing bonus & $1M base salary, creating ~$4.25M in cap space.

— Field Yates (@FieldYates) March 17, 2017

Also, fullback Anthony Sherman dropped his 2017 base salary from $1.55 million to $1.1 million and also dropped his roster bonuses, creating $550,000 in cap room.

Over the Cap has the Chiefs’ cap space listed at about $427,000 right now, and that’s not including Johnson and Sherman’s restructure. Adding those in, and the Chiefs should have a little over $5 million in cap space for 2017. That’s enough for the team to possibly sign another free agent (like Gerald Hodges?) and sign the new draft picks in April.

The fact that Johnson and Sherman were willing to cut their contracts shows how big of team guys these two are. There aren’t many players that are willing to just get rid of money like that. Much respect to those two.

Following this news, I’m curious to see if the Chiefs make any more moves to create cap room. Could they restructure any more contracts? Tamba Hali’s? Will they cut anyone? It’s possible if they want to sign more free agents.

SAUTO 03-17-2017 03:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Laz (Post 12787504)
Yea, we don't really know what happened yet. Sounds like to me he will get that 4 million back if he is healthy enough to make the team but still just guessing.


Here's another article


Report: Derrick Johnson, Anthony Sherman take a pay cut
EMAIL
By: Wesley Roesch | 8 hours ago
Wondering how the Kasnas City Chiefs were able to afford signing defensive lineman Bennie Logan to a one-year, $8 million deal?

Well, here’s your answer.

Per Field Yates of ESPN, Chiefs linebacker Derrick Johnson took a pay cut for 2017, creating $4.25 million in cap room.

Source: Chiefs LB Derrick Johnson has taken a pay cut for 2017. He got a $1M signing bonus & $1M base salary, creating ~$4.25M in cap space.

— Field Yates (@FieldYates) March 17, 2017

Also, fullback Anthony Sherman dropped his 2017 base salary from $1.55 million to $1.1 million and also dropped his roster bonuses, creating $550,000 in cap room.

Over the Cap has the Chiefs’ cap space listed at about $427,000 right now, and that’s not including Johnson and Sherman’s restructure. Adding those in, and the Chiefs should have a little over $5 million in cap space for 2017. That’s enough for the team to possibly sign another free agent (like Gerald Hodges?) and sign the new draft picks in April.

The fact that Johnson and Sherman were willing to cut their contracts shows how big of team guys these two are. There aren’t many players that are willing to just get rid of money like that. Much respect to those two.

Following this news, I’m curious to see if the Chiefs make any more moves to create cap room. Could they restructure any more contracts? Tamba Hali’s? Will they cut anyone? It’s possible if they want to sign more free agents.


i was just reading that too, lol.

Easy 6 03-17-2017 03:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 12787284)
Did Sherman even see the field for 25% of the offensive snaps this year?

Seriously. He was on the field about as often as our long snapper. If you're paying him to be a special teams guy, he needs to fill a depth position of value.

There were a few of us grousing about his playing time this year... when you're arguably the best at your position, you need to see the field a helluva lot more than he did

Andy has fallen too much in love with the spread game, put that little bulldozer out there to clear the way for your backs, get a 3rd and short here and there, and help a struggling O line pass block for ****s sake

Iconic 03-17-2017 07:14 PM

It's not Tamba's fault Dorsey gave him such a stupid restructure. The brass knew what they were doing and were banking on Tamba retiring. Only difference is he's not planning to.

I don't blame Tamba. I blame Dorsey for this one.

TigeRRUppeRRcut 03-17-2017 10:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Iconic (Post 12787817)
It's not Tamba's fault Dorsey gave him such a stupid restructure. The brass knew what they were doing and were banking on Tamba retiring. Only difference is he's not planning to.

I don't blame Tamba. I blame Dorsey for this one.

Contract was done while Ford was still showing little potential and Houston recovering from knee surgery. Tamba's agent took advantage of the situation

BossChief 03-17-2017 10:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 12786993)
Tamba sent this tweet out last night:

"NO MORE FAVORS!!!!#PEOPLEAREUNGRATEFUL" - @TambaHali91

Sounds to me like they wanted a pay cut from him but he's done doing that... he also had retweeted a post from a guy who said something about him not needing to take any more pay cuts in his career about a week ago.

I HIGHLY doubt this has anything to do with Tambas contract with KC.

Tamba is a straight up class act.

I hate to say it, but its time for Dorsey to draft someone that can come in and TAKE the ROLB position and make Dee Ford a situational guy while seeing how a true professional goes about his day to day stuff like Hali does.

Tamba should be playing 20% of the snaps till playoff time. Maybe less.

He absolutely should take a paycut if they ask.

Do like DJ did so they can add another guy to come in and help.

TLO 03-17-2017 11:03 PM

This is good news all around. DJ and Sherman are both guys you want on your roster next season.

Psyko Tek 03-17-2017 11:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 12786957)
Just to throw fuel on the fire -

We've only won four playoff games since that 1969 season. Four. Statistically speaking we should have lucked into a few more wins than that in 47 years, much less championships. It's unbelievable, really.

and 3 where Joe Montana?
can that be right?

Mile High Mania 03-18-2017 05:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Psyko Tek (Post 12788089)
and 3 where Joe Montana?
can that be right?

2 ... http://www.pro-football-reference.co...n/playoffs.htm

And, lots of fun information here as well --> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NFL_wi...93loss_records

rabblerouser 03-18-2017 06:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 12786957)
Just to throw fuel on the fire -

We've only won four playoff games since that 1969 season. Four. Statistically speaking we should have lucked into a few more wins than that in 47 years, much less championships. It's unbelievable, really.

Ummmm...I totally agree.

It's so unbelievable...

rabblerouser 03-18-2017 06:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Psyko Tek (Post 12788089)
and 3 where Joe Montana?
can that be right?

Joe only won 2 playoff games here.

IIRC, we beat the Chargers one year (the year we lost to Miami on Szott's phantom hold??), then Joe's 2 wins, then the Houston win in the 2015 season.

That's more than playoff futility. That's ****ing pathetic.


The NFL hates the Chiefs.

Reerun_KC 03-18-2017 06:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Big Smoke (Post 12788058)
This is good news all around. DJ and Sherman are both guys you want on your roster next season.

Meh. Neither are crucial to the success of this team. DJ is old....

Go younger...

Best22 03-18-2017 08:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rabblerouser (Post 12788133)
Joe only won 2 playoff games here.

IIRC, we beat the Chargers one year (the year we lost to Miami on Szott's phantom hold??), then Joe's 2 wins, then the Houston win in the 2015 season.

That's more than playoff futility. That's ****ing pathetic.


The NFL hates the Chiefs.

Not quite

1991: beat Raiders 10-6 wildcard (Deberg)
1993: beat Steelers 27-24 wildcard (Montana)
1993: beat Oilers 28-20 divisional (Montana)
2015: beat Texans 30-0 wildcard (Smith)

The loss to Miami which you are referring to wad in the 1990 wildcard. We did lose to SD in the playoffs in 1992.

Pasta Little Brioni 03-18-2017 09:03 AM

Tamba COULD have got more than 1 sack if he didn't want a pay cut.


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