Reuben Foster visited the Chiefs today
 

Per Ian Rappapotomus

I'd JIMP if he fell to 27.

Jizz everywhere. Future HOFer.

I hope they didn't keep him waiting.

I would imagine the medical exam went like a NASCAR pitstop.

Good. I doubt he makes it to 27, but he would be one of few options that I'd love KC to choose from, if there.

Fully erect.

Wow. If he fell to us at 27, and even half the mocks are right (which I doubt) that no QB goes in the first 27, we could draft Reuben, then trade up in the 2nd to get whichever QB we want. WOW WOW WOW

It can't be said enough: "It would be daft to trade up in this draft"

ROFL

We have enough picks and not even holes that we can throw one away to secure a possible QBOTF

With a draft this deep, you don't trade away picks to move up. That's bad business. If anything, you trade back to acquire more - that would be good business.

Of all the years to trade up in the draft, this is not the one.

I agree and then disagree. At first, I flirted with that thought of trading up a little for a QB or LB. Now over the last month or so, I think it is the best move to make no move.. and stay put at 27. There WILL be a great prospect available there. So stay put.

After day 1.. if there is really a target that they must have.. I can see them trading one of those late 3rds to move up for him.

I agree, but it totally depends on who is on the board.

Let's say they value Trubisky, Mahones and Watson equally. The Jets take Trubisky and the Texans move up to 17 for one of the other 2. Only 1 QB you like is left.

I'd love for the team to make a statement on the position and move up for one.

Make a confidence move with the kid right away.

If it's him or Watson, I'd take Foster every time.

I don't think either of them make it there, but Foster is pretty damn impressive and his attitude (i.e. he might be a dick) is okay for a linebacker. I'm fine with a surly asshole playing LB for me - his job is to hurt people.

Man, I don't give a shit about making a statement on the position, as much as I do that they get the "right" guy.

If the right guy is there, go ****ing get him and put your dick on the table. If it's the last one of a group, who may or may not be a hit, then I'd rather we not waste extra picks.

James Harrison is a great example of this.

Get "the guy" move up only if he's "the guy". If he's not I wouldn't be afraid to load up on more picks if this class is what they say it is. We don't have alot of needs but there's got to be alot of wants.

Curious about other KC fan opinion on the current ILBs. We always hear how "they suck", and "we need upgrades".. but never a collective, defined summary of the ILBs.. strengths and weaknesses.

The run D was pretty much shit last year, I think we can all agree to that much. However, we lost Bailey and Howard up front. Poe was also not the Poe we have loved years ago. March with his usual MIA. Then later, DJ, who wasn't looking too good anyway.

So, what do they really have, currently?

March - probably good range/cover guy, if ever healthy? any good vs the run?
D.J. - can't really envision him being much help this yr.. hope he can help.
DJA - fast, yet seems like he could be a thumper.. hit the gaps hard, and speed to go sideline to sideline.. but recognition skills?
Wilson - does he do anything well? I don't think he sucks.. but is there any real hope?

Very curious to know what the fans think of these guys. Really want to know what the coaches project for them. Want more of a thick run thumper?... wildly athletic cover LB? or simply one of both?

If you added a 2nd rd LB (let's say McMillan, balanced) AND 5th rd LB (let's say Jordan Evans, excellent cover LB) in this draft.. who and how many of the current LBs would likely be atop your cut list?

I'm curious as to how the line backers we have would fare with better d line play

March - y'know, for all we hear about his athleticism, he's actually pretty shitty in coverage because his instincts are AWFUL. He simply looks lost out there. And his supporters will still insist that it's inexperience but I'm not seeing it. Wilson had a better feel for the position from his first day on the field than March has after 2 years in the system. He's just a bad football player. Good athlete, bad player. And ultimately that's all secondary to the fact that he can't get on the field anyway.

If he were healthy and mediocre, I'd tolerate him (we'll talk about that guy next). If he were good but injury prone, I'd even put up with that. But he's average on his best days and can't be counted on. He'd be my first cut among the linebackers and it's not even close. I'd rather have Mauga back.

Wilson - Here's your healthy mediocrity. No, he doesn't do anything terribly well but he also doesn't do anything really poorly. He's overexposed as your Mike but as the Ted, he's fine. He's getting better at attacking the line instead of trying to pick through it. He's never going to be really aggressive out there but he's no longer embarrassing about it. He's a fine player.

Alexander - A supercharged March. Better athlete, better hitter, bigger player. But like March, he's just not a guy that appears to flow with the game terribly well. Now unlike March, I think he's progressing and may still have a little more to offer. And unlike March, he's usually healthy. You could do worse for your #4 ILB but I think you're in trouble if he's anything higher than #3.

DJ - DJ was slipping before he was hurt. Expect the worst, hope for the best. His days as a difference maker are over and there's a good chance that any return just looks similar to Willie Mays falling over himself in the OF for the Mets. There's nothing to think about here - mark him down as 'absent' and if you get anything from him ever again that's just gravy.

The team needs an ILB and arguably two. Too bad BossChief ****ed up the draft and didn't get us any...

I think Wilson and Alexander are good as the #3 and #4 ILBs on this team. March can't be counted on for shit and who knows what DJ has left. I was hoping that we would either sign Hodges or trade for Kendricks....and then draft one on the 2nd day of the draft.

Need 2 or 3 ilbs. All ours suck

I agree with djs left nut. We need a couple. I was hoping of would fill the silb role in fa on the cheap cuz this draft is mostly Will s

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Good feedback. :thumb:

No way Foster falls far BUT IF we are fortunate enough he gets in striking range I say we trade up JUST for him IMHO. Now with that said, what is your definition of striking range ????

If he gets to 18 somehow, I trade up all day.

At what point does it make sense to have so many picks you don't have roster spots for them all?

I don't understand why people keep saying this. Can the chiefs not upgrade reserves at te, ot, og, rb, wr, silb, and so forth? There's room for guys to take spots from the likes of Harris/oshaughnessy, march, witzmann, fulton, albert wilson and the like.

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Definitely a ILB in the 1st or 2nd round if you don't get the guy you like in the first. I think you pick up another ILB in the 4th or 5th. Maybe Anthony Walker Jr.?

Wasn't really impressed with Anthony Walker, but in the 4th/5th, it would be tolerable. Not sure I'd waste much on a rd 4/5 guy.. would he be any better than what we have?

I'm really liking this:

rd 1 - Foster, Reddick, Davis
rd 2 - McMillan

rd 3 - Riley (for coverage), Beckwith (for thumping)
rd 4 - Blair (tackling machine, excellent run defender, quick, but a bit short), Jordan Evans (very fast, excellent cover LB), or Harvey Langi (thumper, good range, but raw for ILB)

Hope we get a day 1 or 2 option though.

Davis isn't a Rd1 consideration at all, IMO. Way too much depth in the class at edge and DB and he's not good enough in coverage.

Foster and Reddick, sure. Davis in the 2nd. McMillan in the 2nd is a little early but he probably doesn't fall to late 3. Riley and Beckwith also feel early in the 3rd, especially with Beckwith's ACL injury; I could see Riley with the comp but I wouldn't take Beckwith before the 4th; he had coverage concerns before his knee gave out and there's no telling how he bounces back and if the lost development means you're giving him a redshirt year.

I'd consider Anzalone in the 4th as well. Love the player; hate the health history.

What didn't you like about Walker?

I wouldn't be opposed to Langi. I like projects...they usually go one way or the other and you can decide what the next move is quickly.

Will have to go back and look. It was quite a while ago that I checked his performances out.. don't really remember. I only remembered that I was underwhelmed with him.

DJL, I think the coverage limitations.. while they exist.. are overblown on Beckwith. LSU kept him on the field quite a bit in obvious pass downs. I think it's inaccurate to lump him in with so many large LBs that did in fact suck in coverage. Fair point on the injury and recovery time though.

If optimistic on that much, I think 3rd rd is good value for what he can bring.. at least for a teams in need of a thumper that can cover ground well for his size. If optimistic about the injury, why just the 3rd? well.. because his instincts outside of the box are not top shelf.

Walker is the most slept on LB in this class. He's outstanding, but gets absolutely zero love having played for one of the BIG's cellar dwellers. The only time he struggled was early this year when he had a nagging injury that slowed him down. When he got going, he was back to his old self, dominating. This kid literally shut down Christian McCaffrey single-handedly in 2015. The guy is a perfect fit at WILB for KC and I'd be extremely surprised if he went later than round 3.

Reeves Maybin continues to be the forgotten prospect that could turn out to be a steal if that shoulder holds up.

I'd agree.

Linebackers and shoulder injuries are always very worrisome though. Big reason Anzalone isn't being considered a top 40 prospect.

If Reeves-Maybin's shoulder does check out, I'd think he'd come off the board by round 4. Big problem with him running a 4.72 at his size though, might scare some teams off a bit on top of the shoulder.

Worse than just the physical concern are the mental ones - A LBer with a balky shoulder is going to flinch for awhile when it comes time to fill a gap or take on a blocker/runner.

You'll see a lot of picking at the line and drag tackling until the guy is absolutely certain that shoulder is sound. And then if he aggravates it again, he may just be worthless for good because he never gets the injury out of the back of his mind.

You're absolutely right - a guy like Anzalone is among the better LB talents in this class but it's just really hard to pull the trigger on a guy with shoulder injuries.

Why are so many pimping Haason Reddick?

He is a TERRIBLE football player.
Bad angles, little physicality, slow processor. I don't know what this guy has done to merit 1st round consideration. He must have blackmail tape on somebody. Too many people likely watched highlight tape versus game tape. Watch his game against USF. Invisible.

It baffles me each year as to why some media outlets promote certain guys who have little football accumen on film but maybe test well, have personality, or flash in an all-star game like a Sr. Bowl where the rules and the schemes cater to certain styles of play.

I'm calling Reddick the 2017 draft bust now.

A bad game or multiple bad games, that's really what you need to say. Reddick is getting love for his Senior season, which as a whole was very good. He's got the explosive index (71.6) and the productivity ratio (1.54) that suggest (not guarantee) he won't bust. He's also being projected to a position he didn't play in college because of his overall athletic traits and lack of traits to remain where he did play. He's very similar to Jamie Collins coming out. I loved Collins coming out, but noone ever saw him as a 1st round pick. He did however, go 52nd overall, which is about a round higher than I expected. Given how Collins' transformed and has performed, it seems analysts are convinced that teams will take a shot on a similar type of talent much earlier.